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Re: Unidentified Pochon 'Alarm"

Gerhard Mueller
 

Could not find this at the website of the manufacturer: https://pochon-sa.com/
If no other can help you might be you ask Pochon directly?
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Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Unidentified Pochon 'Alarm"

David Cummane
 

Hi

I am updating the electronics onboard and would like to remove an alarm system.  I was under the impression the bo, as pictired below, was the central unit for an alarm system however there are cable feeds which do not logically sit with an alarm system, such as 'Radar'.

If anyone can identify the purpose of this unit, I'd be grateful.

David
Ker Marie
SM#101

Re: Stern tube hose

Matt Salatino
 

Custom length, not customer

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Mine was stainless. 
The neat thing, is Lasdrop will cut your hose to a customer length, a bit longer, or shorter. This way, you can locate the shaft-seal forward or back a bit, to insure a clean shaft area where the lip seals make contact. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 16, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Thats a great track record. I looked at one today at the prop shop and liked the engineering on it. Once I see what kind of shape my bronze shaft is in I will know what direction. Was your drive shaft bronze or stainless ?

Re: Stern tube hose

Matt Salatino
 

Mine was stainless. 
The neat thing, is Lasdrop will cut your hose to a customer length, a bit longer, or shorter. This way, you can locate the shaft-seal forward or back a bit, to insure a clean shaft area where the lip seals make contact. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 16, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Thats a great track record. I looked at one today at the prop shop and liked the engineering on it. Once I see what kind of shape my bronze shaft is in I will know what direction. Was your drive shaft bronze or stainless ?

Re: Stern tube hose

Arlo
 

Thats a great track record. I looked at one today at the prop shop and liked the engineering on it. Once I see what kind of shape my bronze shaft is in I will know what direction. Was your drive shaft bronze or stainless ?

Re: Stern tube hose

Matt Salatino
 

We had the Lasdrop GenII on our last boat. 8 years, and at 7 years only needed a $16 lip seal kit. No big leak, but a minor drip. We bought one for our new Amel 50. 


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 11:23 AM, Arlo
<svplanb@...> wrote:
Thanks James. I went by the local prop shop today and they have the 2 and 2 and 1/4 size so I am going to grab one of each and see what might work....I may end up with a Las Gen2 if my prop shatt is in good shape and I dont find a good solution to the hose issue... stay tuned.... :)

Re: Stern tube hose

Arlo
 

Thanks James. I went by the local prop shop today and they have the 2 and 2 and 1/4 size so I am going to grab one of each and see what might work....I may end up with a Las Gen2 if my prop shatt is in good shape and I dont find a good solution to the hose issue... stay tuned.... :)

Re: Bow Thruster on 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 
Edited

IMPORTANT CORRECTION: In my earlier message, below, I stated you need a normally open switch.  You need a NORMALLY CLOSED switch.  In operation the the bow thruster raises or lowers and contacts the switch OPENING the circuit thereby removing power from the lift motor.  Sorry for the incorrect information earlier.

You could look for a Momentary Pushbutton Switch with a raised button and a N.O. (normally open) contact that is 12mm in diameter.  Similar to the link below.  The switch shown is 16mm, I was not able to find 12mm so I modified the bracket.  You can also wire it so the light is on or off based on the switch contacts, I did not use this feature.  Best Regards.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D2BBWPM/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07D2BBWPM&pd_rd_w=PVRia&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=ydkqt&pf_rd_r=RJ3BA41SQTH2YQNG8E11&pd_rd_r=40ee54ba-e26f-4dcd-a726-58f14ba1593f&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFPTlYyR0QxRFBSMVQmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAwODQzMTAySThUUUlDSlU3MjNTJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyODA4NTcySThIUVJHWjQxMzJVJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

 


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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

battens for main

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Good Day Amelians,
I'm planning to put my new main sail on, and I noticed that the new battens provided by Q Sails are a bit different then the original. 
They are somewhat tapered in thickness as you go from one end to the other. 
My assumption would be that whatever end goes in first would best have the thinner end to allow the battens to fit thru the gap as the sail is winding in. 
If anyone has replaced their main with a new Q Sails main, I'd like to know your feedback on the best orientation of the battens.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real Puerto Rico

Re: Bow Thruster on 54

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Mohammad,
I got them from Amel, however I would buy any switch you want that you can wire for discontinuous use. Amel sends you that type of switch, but you need to solder the wires onto it yourself after determining which terminals to use to have the switch preform as a discontinuous circuit. Remember, when the motor reaches the switch, the switch turns OFF the lift motor, rather then turning something on, hence discontinuous service.
Best Regards,
Jeff

On December 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Jeff;

 

Can you please let me know where you purchase these switches?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of JEFFREY KRAUS via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 8:25 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow Thruster on 54

 

Good Day Amelians,
Just a note for any 54 owners regarding the thruster up/down motion.
Being aboard, I like to run tests on all systems.
In both my last and current stays aboard, I encountered the same problem.
Both the down and up position switches are discontinuous switches. When they are engaged they turn off the motion of the motor.
Seeing as the motor is engaged for a long period of time, it has a tendency to stick, or remain engaged. Once the motor reaches the down position, it stops. When I switch the motor to move back up, it doesn't move. After pressing the up position switch a couple times, it seems to free the switch from it's engaged position, and the motor will move to the up position and stop. A couple of up down movements, and it works flawlessly.
I will now leave the thruster about 1/4" lower then full up position so the switch isn't engaged while not aboard. The thruster opening down below the waterline should still be engaged enough with the hull to avoid any problems.
I wonder if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. I keep those switches handy, as they are problematic. Keeping the thruster slightly lowered may solve the issue or at least prolong the switch life.
Best Regards to all.
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real, PR


 

 

Re: Cleaning the worst parts of an Amel

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I opted for the low tech approach.  First I installed a small filter prior to the refrigeration raw water pump to filter out the smaller unwanted bits that escape the main strainer or grow in the supply hose.  When cleaning the main strainer turn off the intake valve then remove the bowl of the small strainer then open the lid on the main strainer.  The small strainer is below the level of the discharge of the main intake so the water level drops and the main strainer can be removed without critters or junk getting out of the main strainer.  However, in my case I have a course bristle brush on the end of a pole that I push down through the strainer, open the intake valve, push the brush down to clear the bottom of the boat to assist the exit of any remaining coarse debris, hold the strainer in place with one hand withdrawing the brush quickly so it clears the valve then close the intake valve.  With a little practice this can be done without water overflowing the main strainer.  Then remove the plastic insert and clean normally.  No hazmat suit necessary.

This method works very well when the strainer in the intake becomes clogged.  The attached show the results of a jellyfish bloom.  We had to clean the main strainer every 4 - 12 hours this summer.  My wife had to do it when I had to be off the boat - the methodology worked but she ran the A/C for shorter intervals.

Not wanting bilge spray blow back I flush with a garden hose on an irregular basis but add Unique Natural Products Marine Digest-It Holding Tank Treatment.  It is a blend of bacteria and enzymes that is safe for plastics and metals.  I believe its byproducts are CO2 & water.  A couple of tablespoons every 2 - 3 weeks seems to work pretty well - no smells and a fairly clean bilge.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Bow Thruster on 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Jeff;

 

Can you please let me know where you purchase these switches?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of JEFFREY KRAUS via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 8:25 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow Thruster on 54

 

Good Day Amelians,
Just a note for any 54 owners regarding the thruster up/down motion.
Being aboard, I like to run tests on all systems.
In both my last and current stays aboard, I encountered the same problem.
Both the down and up position switches are discontinuous switches. When they are engaged they turn off the motion of the motor.
Seeing as the motor is engaged for a long period of time, it has a tendency to stick, or remain engaged. Once the motor reaches the down position, it stops. When I switch the motor to move back up, it doesn't move. After pressing the up position switch a couple times, it seems to free the switch from it's engaged position, and the motor will move to the up position and stop. A couple of up down movements, and it works flawlessly.
I will now leave the thruster about 1/4" lower then full up position so the switch isn't engaged while not aboard. The thruster opening down below the waterline should still be engaged enough with the hull to avoid any problems.
I wonder if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. I keep those switches handy, as they are problematic. Keeping the thruster slightly lowered may solve the issue or at least prolong the switch life.
Best Regards to all.
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real, PR

Bow Thruster on 54

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Good Day Amelians,
Just a note for any 54 owners regarding the thruster up/down motion.
Being aboard, I like to run tests on all systems.
In both my last and current stays aboard, I encountered the same problem.
Both the down and up position switches are discontinuous switches. When they are engaged they turn off the motion of the motor.
Seeing as the motor is engaged for a long period of time, it has a tendency to stick, or remain engaged. Once the motor reaches the down position, it stops. When I switch the motor to move back up, it doesn't move. After pressing the up position switch a couple times, it seems to free the switch from it's engaged position, and the motor will move to the up position and stop. A couple of up down movements, and it works flawlessly.
I will now leave the thruster about 1/4" lower then full up position so the switch isn't engaged while not aboard. The thruster opening down below the waterline should still be engaged enough with the hull to avoid any problems.
I wonder if any other 54 owners have encountered this problem. I keep those switches handy, as they are problematic. Keeping the thruster slightly lowered may solve the issue or at least prolong the switch life.
Best Regards to all.
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real, PR

Re: Stern tube hose

James Alton
 

Arlo,
  Sorry to hear that the hose you ordered seems to be too flexible.  Jamestown Distributors (Rhode Island) appears from the website to have the Algonquin hose in stock though not your exact size.  The hose is only about $15 per pc. So maybe it would be worth getting a size above and below your messurement to see what fits the best.  I replaced the hose on Sueno with the Algonquin hose this year and found the hose to be pretty soft so it should stretch some or compress some.  I should have other sources if Jamestown can't help you.  You are welcome to send me an email if you prefer.   Best of luck.

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

On Dec. 15, 2019 10:14 a.m., Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:
Hello James. The measurements I took are right at the end of the hose on the stern tube where the hose stops once fully seated. Same on the stuffing box, so the barbs if any are not included. We are hauling out today and will start the dissembling process tomorrow and I will take the stuffing box to the local prop shop in hopes that they have some of the Buck Alog. Hoses. I will also call Buck Alog. on Monday to see what they think as well. The Tides hose I recieved yesterday seemed more flexible than I was expecting  so the jury is still out on the use of that hose...I may ping you tomorrow if I come up empty. I really appreciate the help.
Arlo

Re: AMFA bilge pump rebuild kit

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Ah, the Zen of fixing your boat in exotic ports!

Re: Stern tube hose

Arlo
 

Hello James. The measurements I took are right at the end of the hose on the stern tube where the hose stops once fully seated. Same on the stuffing box, so the barbs if any are not included. We are hauling out today and will start the dissembling process tomorrow and I will take the stuffing box to the local prop shop in hopes that they have some of the Buck Alog. Hoses. I will also call Buck Alog. on Monday to see what they think as well. The Tides hose I recieved yesterday seemed more flexible than I was expecting  so the jury is still out on the use of that hose...I may ping you tomorrow if I come up empty. I really appreciate the help.
Arlo

Re: Cleaning the worst parts of an Amel

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hi Arno,

thanks, very good ideas and descpription. 

Something to add. Olivier Beauté (Amel boat expert ond former SAV of Amel) instructed me so, and I do it with good success since over 4 years. 

Before starting the manual cleaning procedure I
  1. empty the bilge with the manual pump 
  2. take 2 tablets of small bags of cleaning substance for the DISH WASHER (makes no foam!!!) in the sink in the pantry, dilute it well in very hot water, 
  3. drain it into the bilge, add a lot of hot water (even if the hot water tank is empty) by separately boiled water mixed with cold wtare to about 70 °C, and drain it until the bilge is completely full (disconntect the contacts for the electrical bilge pump before).
  4. let it work for at least one, better more hours, it softens and cleans the heavy mug at the sides and bottom an everywhere in the bilge 
  5. pump this cocktail :-) out with the manual bilge pump. 
I do this always after a 4-5 week sail, sometimes on half time also. 
The complete process (with the Kärcher) runs on my ship only once a year or even less due to this prevention of thick mug layers. 

Hope this is an additional idea to the perfect process you have described. 

Alexander, SY Oceanica I Amel 54#156

Re: AMFA bilge pump rebuild kit

Sv Garulfo
 

hi Craig, all,

I’m pleased to report that I was able to implement Craig’s suggestions to repair the plastic/aluminium clutch gear of the Marina ZZ bilge pump gearbox. 
Interestingly, it initially looked like a piece was missing, creating a gap, but the lack of debris and the matching break surfaces convinced me otherwise. I guess the plastic ring is tensioned over the aluminium. 
So i elected to mate one side of the break and fill the gap with epoxy and a pin. I cut a new groove in the epoxy for the worm gear and luckily it aligns well, allowing the gears to run pretty smoothly. 

Hopefully it’ll last 12+ years, but still have a replacement planned, available from Amel and also Emek. 


Thanks again

Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Ua Pou, Marquesas, French Polynesia 



On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 12:16, Sv Garulfo via Groups.Io <svgarulfo=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Craig, 

I think i found it (at least another thread where you quoted it). 
I will have a look to see what could be done.

Cheers
Thomas

On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 04:17, Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Definitely not broken beyond repair. If, as Bill suggests, you can get a new plastic gear that would be super.  If not, you can actually repair the old one quite easily - search for my old post on the subject, but basically, separate the outer toothed part from the inner ring, rotate the toothed part on reassembly so you've spanned all the inner breaks. Then drill holes in the valleys of the gear on each side of the breaks, thru the inner ring and put "pins" (finishing nails will do) thru the holes. You might wash it in mineral spirits first and add some glue to the brew. I did this repair on mine maybe 12 years ago or so and it its still going strong.
Cheers, Craig

Re: Size of main sail sheet

marklesparkle59
 

I second that, when I changed my 14mm genoa sheets for 12mm the sheets were less comfortable and maybe even stretched a little under high loads.
Mark Porter
Sea Hobo Shark #96



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Matt Salatino via Groups.Io" <helmsmatt@...>
Date: 14/12/2019 17:24 (GMT+00:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Size of main sail sheet

Many times, the smaller diameter line is plenty strong, but the larger diameter line feels better in the hand, easier to pull and handle at the expense of increased weight.


On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io
<laixoi@...> wrote:

Hello everybody 

can somebody tell me if  there main sail sheet coming in the cockpit on the winch on the mizzen mast is 12mm or 14mm is mandatory ? 
I have 14mm , and was wondering if it would be safe to reduce to 12mm ?
merry Christmas to all 🎄
Nick

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Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

Re: Size of main sail sheet

Arnold Mente
 

Hi,

here you can find ALL what you need!!!!


Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 14.12.2019 um 18:24 schrieb Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>:

Many times, the smaller diameter line is plenty strong, but the larger diameter line feels better in the hand, easier to pull and handle at the expense of increased weight.


On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io
<laixoi@...> wrote:

Hello everybody 

can somebody tell me if  there main sail sheet coming in the cockpit on the winch on the mizzen mast is 12mm or 14mm is mandatory ? 
I have 14mm , and was wondering if it would be safe to reduce to 12mm ?
merry Christmas to all 🎄
Nick

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Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille




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SY Zephyr SM203