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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Mark
Thanks Mark. Does that mean that you plumbed / welded a 2nd return entrance pipe back into the fuel tank, ie. separate from the one that pushes the engine and generator excess fuel back into the tank?
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Colin,

My fuel polisher has its own fuel return.

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419, Sardinia



On Jul 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark
Glad to hear it works so well and I will certainly follow your great idea about including a T piece for re-fuelling from jerry cans. What a brillinant idea as I am currently on the look out for a Baja Fuel filter too.

One question, did you simply plumb the return fuel flow into the normal engine return flow valve at the top and aft cabin end of the SM's fuel tank? Being an amateur at this I was worried that the speed of the pump may force too much fuel through that small inlet?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the other side of the tee. When I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock that was suspect, such as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.

I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30 microns just before it is burned.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia





On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
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  and  
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning On Board Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
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Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
Preview by Yahoo

  They are in the diesel pump and injector manufacturing business and it is what they market  Stanadyne

Stanadyne
Stanadyne is a global leader in fuel injection system technology for diesel and gasoline engines, enabling greater efficiency, engine power and performance.
Preview by Yahoo

 


Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




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Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




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Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Colin,

My fuel polisher has its own fuel return.

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419, Sardinia



On Jul 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark
Glad to hear it works so well and I will certainly follow your great idea about including a T piece for re-fuelling from jerry cans. What a brillinant idea as I am currently on the look out for a Baja Fuel filter too.

One question, did you simply plumb the return fuel flow into the normal engine return flow valve at the top and aft cabin end of the SM's fuel tank? Being an amateur at this I was worried that the speed of the pump may force too much fuel through that small inlet?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the other side of the tee. When I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock that was suspect, such as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.

I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30 microns just before it is burned.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia





On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

  and  
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning On Board Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
Preview by Yahoo

  They are in the diesel pump and injector manufacturing business and it is what they market  Stanadyne

Stanadyne
Stanadyne is a global leader in fuel injection system technology for diesel and gasoline engines, enabling greater efficiency, engine power and performance.
Preview by Yahoo

 


Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Key for companion way

Gary Wells
 

(Man I wish you could edit posts :)

I made a mistake in my previous post. The keys we had made was from an ILCO 999A (Y2) blank.  SHould be able to get that at any hardware store, just have the cutter remove some of the stock (about 1/8") of the depth stop and it'll make it long enough. 

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks to everyone for all your quick replies !
I will look harder !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
18 15.68S, 177 52.12E


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine coupling alignment

Mike Ondra
 

Thanks for the information. This is a real possibility for us. Bearings are definitely in our near future.

Mike Ondra
610-442-7551

On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:51 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mike,

I thought I had a problem with my autoprop not allowing me to get to full rpm.

When I hauled the boat the blades did not wobble. Everything seemed ok. However I replace the bearings anyway and my problem went away.

Possibly you have the same issue with vibration.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine coupling alignment

 

 

After installing new engine mounts and reassembling everything we still had a modest vibration of the assembly while under power, increasing with RPM. After loosening the bolts that hold the Vetus coupling together and to the transmission output hub, the bolts were not at all under pressure (shear) that would indicate misalignment. In fact they could be slid fore and aft easily with a finger. The coupling and transmission hub separated about the distance of the thickness of a business card, and the gap was uniform at each of the 4 bolt locations. Seems to me this is about as good as it gets for alignment. Is that precise enough?

Suspecting the remaining vibration is from the Autoprop. Bearings replaced in 2009 with maybe 1000 hours on it since then. Seemed OK 200 hours ago when examined on the hard, clean and no wobble in the bearings. Total hours probably approaching 3500. Does the Autoprop need to be rebalanced from time to time?

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine coupling alignment

eric freedman
 

Mike,

I thought I had a problem with my autoprop not allowing me to get to full rpm.

When I hauled the boat the blades did not wobble. Everything seemed ok. However I replace the bearings anyway and my problem went away.

Possibly you have the same issue with vibration.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine coupling alignment

 

 

After installing new engine mounts and reassembling everything we still had a modest vibration of the assembly while under power, increasing with RPM. After loosening the bolts that hold the Vetus coupling together and to the transmission output hub, the bolts were not at all under pressure (shear) that would indicate misalignment. In fact they could be slid fore and aft easily with a finger. The coupling and transmission hub separated about the distance of the thickness of a business card, and the gap was uniform at each of the 4 bolt locations. Seems to me this is about as good as it gets for alignment. Is that precise enough?

Suspecting the remaining vibration is from the Autoprop. Bearings replaced in 2009 with maybe 1000 hours on it since then. Seemed OK 200 hours ago when examined on the hard, clean and no wobble in the bearings. Total hours probably approaching 3500. Does the Autoprop need to be rebalanced from time to time?

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

ofer magen <magenofer@...>
 

Hi to all.

I have my Amel 54 #160 2010,for a year now.

I follow the forum every day,trying to learn from this great place of knowledge . I still have a long way to go but I enjoy the process. Thanks to all of you.

Since the first day ,I had the boat speed come and go ,on the hydra and the analog b&g.
When the boat speed appears it is accurate. 

Emek in Turkey could not fix it,so I changed the display on the hydra to speed over ground.
I cannot see true wind speed.

Any ideas? 
Can someone send me the manuals?

Thanks ,
Ofer Magen
Alba, Amel 54 160, 2010



On שבת, יולי 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Ours goes whacky when we run the microwave!



Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ




On Jul 9, 2016, at 06:19, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I think small debris and whirling or whipping current will cause what happened. I experienced abarnacle on one of the sensors which basically shut it down.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 9, 2016 5:25 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Colin,

yes, its all a bit strange...
Glad you're enjoying the updates...
I have to say there's not many cruising yachts up here this season....maybe the fear of the last cyclone or the bad weather down south hampering getaways...but it's great here.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
18 22.87S, 178 09.14E





Re: Key for companion way

Derick Gates
 

I was able to find the key blank at the Home Depot in Saint Thomas.  

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Currently on the hard in Antigua


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 2 micron filters

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Olivier and thank you for the response. Hope you are doing well and having a great summer.

Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty
AMEL 54 099
B&B Kokomo


Leech line adjustment.

greatketch@...
 

Has anyone a clever idea about how to tweak the leech line tension while underway?

On the battenless roller furling sail the adjustment of the tension in the leech line seems much more of an issue than on a battened sail, yet reaching the clew of the mainsail borders on treacherous when the wind picks up and we're sailing close hauled.

On my old boat the i lead the leech line over a small cheek block at the head of the sail, and down the luff so I could adjust it at the mast.  Clever, but obviously not an option for a roller furled sail.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Highlands, NJ




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

It’s not hard to find…  google is your friend…  

On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:00, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Alan,

I have ordered the blank from Amel, and have also found the blank in Colombia.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 4:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

 

  

I went to a professional key cutter/locksmith to get a new key cut for the companion way lock.

He told me that he couldn't do it as the Amel key is an unusual size and he couldn't get the appropritely sized blank for it.

Does anyone have a source for a blank for the Amel key ???

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

eric freedman
 

Alan,

I have ordered the blank from Amel, and have also found the blank in Colombia.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 4:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

 

 

I went to a professional key cutter/locksmith to get a new key cut for the companion way lock.

He told me that he couldn't do it as the Amel key is an unusual size and he couldn't get the appropritely sized blank for it.

Does anyone have a source for a blank for the Amel key ???

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

And one more additional clue that might help somebody track down the key… The lock is the same one used by at least some recent models of Beneteau sailboats so that might be another source.


On Jul 10, 2016, at 09:30, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Funny!  


We tried a couple places in Fort Lauderdale without success, but in Austin, Texas we found a place who made them without a problem.  It was a safe specialty store, and the guy took one glance at the key and immediately said “They, that’s a ‘Y2', I haven’t seen one of those in a while," and went to the huge wall full of blanks and pick the right one first time. Always fun to work with a real professional.

Sure enough the new keys are all stamped with “Y2”.  Knowing that might help people track it down.


Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ




On Jul 10, 2016, at 08:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning Alan, 

When I was in Texas I tried without success to make a new key.
Therefore in Fort Lauderdale, I found a locksmith that was able and made several. 
I wish I had purchased additional blank keys…  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/10/16, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2016, 3:16 AM


 









I went to a professional key
cutter/locksmith to get a new key cut for the companion way
lock.He told me that he couldn't do
it as the Amel key is an unusual size and he couldn't
get the appropritely sized blank for
it.Does anyone have a source for a blank
for the Amel key
???CheersAlanElyse
SM437









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

In case anyone is interested we just uploaded a picture of the Reverso Fuel Polishing system plus one showing where we eventually placed it on the aft wall in the engine room. Note this pic was pre installation and just hung there with rope to check for fit, ie not the completed install job! 

Colin Streeter, Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Thanks Mark
Glad to hear it works so well and I will certainly follow your great idea about including a T piece for re-fuelling from jerry cans. What a brillinant idea as I am currently on the look out for a Baja Fuel filter too.

One question, did you simply plumb the return fuel flow into the normal engine return flow valve at the top and aft cabin end of the SM's fuel tank? Being an amateur at this I was worried that the speed of the pump may force too much fuel through that small inlet?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the other side of the tee. When I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock that was suspect, such as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.

I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30 microns just before it is burned.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia





On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

  and  
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning On Board Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
Preview by Yahoo

  They are in the diesel pump and injector manufacturing business and it is what they market  Stanadyne

Stanadyne
Stanadyne is a global leader in fuel injection system technology for diesel and gasoline engines, enabling greater efficiency, engine power and performance.
Preview by Yahoo

 


Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Mark
Glad to hear it works so well and I will certainly follow your great idea about including a T piece for re-fuelling from jerry cans. What a brillinant idea as I am currently on the look out for a Baja Fuel filter too.

One question, did you simply plumb the return fuel flow into the normal engine return flow valve at the top and aft cabin end of the SM's fuel tank? Being an amateur at this I was worried that the speed of the pump may force too much fuel through that small inlet?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the other side of the tee. When I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock that was suspect, such as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.

I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30 microns just before it is burned.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia





On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

  and  
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning On Board Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
Preview by Yahoo

 

Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
Preview by Yahoo

  They are in the diesel pump and injector manufacturing business and it is what they market  Stanadyne

Stanadyne
Stanadyne is a global leader in fuel injection system technology for diesel and gasoline engines, enabling greater efficiency, engine power and performance.
Preview by Yahoo

 


Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Mark Pitt
 

I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the other side of the tee. When I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock that was suspect, such as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.

I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30 microns just before it is burned.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia





On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
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Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
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Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Regarding the original question on installing a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor and above the dual Racor filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there although it is a large unit. Only modification required was to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a slightly longer piece.

Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an unnecessary extra item as we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands next year.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'll add a things that I am sure everyone does.

  1. If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill freely.
  2. Also, I am sure that we all use some sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or both. 
  3. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the bottom and examine for water. If you get some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then  tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that you probably need the tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello both of you,

FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble free RTW, I considered options including nuclear purification:-)

Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't foresee any big problem in the future. 

Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up. Used this effectively in the past

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007



On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we made--"We've had good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about 1/4 full with water and confirming that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns  http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf  "  The fact that Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I think. 


Regarding a fuel polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at "fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant amount of gunk out before if got to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their portable polishers and they are also popular on earth movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a circulation pump or anything else.  As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the injectors.  Universal Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies

  If you ever wonder how fuel polishers do their work without going through scores of filters the answer is that they use fuel purifiers. Portable Fuel Polishing Units | RCI Technologies

 

 I used to provide a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read about in the link that follows--but I think the design was over-kill and on my Super Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
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  and  
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning On Board Fuel Polisher
Marine Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
Diesel Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair, Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake. Specializing in Diesel Repa...
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Again that system was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the Algae-X they threw in.... 

Regarding the 2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built up.

Regarding additives I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne Additives
Stanadyne Additives
The heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.
Preview by Yahoo

  They are in the diesel pump and injector manufacturing business and it is what they market  Stanadyne

Stanadyne
Stanadyne is a global leader in fuel injection system technology for diesel and gasoline engines, enabling greater efficiency, engine power and performance.
Preview by Yahoo

 


Bob, KAIMI #429, Marmaris, Türkiye
 





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 2 micron filters

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Mohammad,
The own engine fuel filter of your VOLVO D3 is originally a 2 micron.
The cartridges in your RACOR dual pre-filters are originally 10 micron.
Keep on with these kinds.
The VOLVO D3 needs to circulate 100 liters per hour.

Happy sailing.

Olivier

Envoyé de mon iPhone


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Funny!  

We tried a couple places in Fort Lauderdale without success, but in Austin, Texas we found a place who made them without a problem.  It was a safe specialty store, and the guy took one glance at the key and immediately said “They, that’s a ‘Y2', I haven’t seen one of those in a while," and went to the huge wall full of blanks and pick the right one first time. Always fun to work with a real professional.

Sure enough the new keys are all stamped with “Y2”.  Knowing that might help people track it down.


Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ




On Jul 10, 2016, at 08:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning Alan, 

When I was in Texas I tried without success to make a new key.
Therefore in Fort Lauderdale, I found a locksmith that was able and made several. 
I wish I had purchased additional blank keys…  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/10/16, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Key for companion way
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2016, 3:16 AM


 









I went to a professional key
cutter/locksmith to get a new key cut for the companion way
lock.He told me that he couldn't do
it as the Amel key is an unusual size and he couldn't
get the appropritely sized blank for
it.Does anyone have a source for a blank
for the Amel key
???CheersAlanElyse
SM437









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Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Ian,

Totally understand! No problem, just curious so was Paul!

Enjoy the definitely cooler London! May be even the Formula 1 Grand Prix this weekend!

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 7/9/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016, 6:47 AM


 
















Alexandre, 
 Sorry, I' m not on the boat. 37-40 C is not our cup
of tea, so we retreat to the mere 20's of London for
July and August.



Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza


From:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: 09 July 2016 10:56:45

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
 



Good
morning Ian, thanks for the information. 

Do you happened to know the size of the O Ring?  I had mine
measured, but not sure if this is accurate... 


Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Sat, 7/9/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



 Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

 To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

 Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016, 3:13 AM

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

    

      

      

      

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hi Alexandre,

                                 The
first

 time we changed the oil in our propeller leg it was done
by

 an Amel engineer at La Rochelle.  He advised me that the
O

 rings that came already fitted to the bronze piece were
not

 always true and that before inserting

  the new seals you should do a trial  fit of  the
bronze

 piece to ensure that the O ring  that came with it was
a

 tight fit. As a result I bought about 10 spare O rings.
I

 have probably changed the bronze piece about 8 times so
far.

 On each occasion the O ring

  that came with the bronze piece was a good fit, but I
am

 prepared in case that should not be the case.

 

 

 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza

 

 

 From:

 amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

 <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of

 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

 [amelyachtowners]

  <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

 

 Sent: 08 July 2016 12:00:56

 

 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

  

 

 

 

 Ho now I

 understand your question. 

 

 I had it measure once at:  39.5 x 3

 

 Therefore, I don’t think this is necessary to have
spare

 as you will need to change the entire bronze fitting every
2

 years and Amel sells it with the o ring. 

 

 

 

 

 Sincerely, Alexandre

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 --------------------------------------------

 

 On Fri, 7/8/16, osterberg.paul.l@gmail.com
[amelyachtowners]

 <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

  Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

 

  To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

 

  Date: Friday, July 8, 2016, 3:40 AM

 

  

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

  

 

     

 

       

 

       

 

        Eric we do have it it's an extra seal
for

 the

 

  oil plug.

 

  

 

  Questions remain the size of the o-ring inside the

 brons

 

  bussing that goes outside of the prop shaft

 

  

 

  Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

 

  

 

     

 

      

 

  

 

     

 

     

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

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