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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

Thanks – I located 5 units close to COOMERA AUSTRALIA. I will try to secure 3 for myself; in case anybody approaches you within a reasonable amount of time there should be 2 more with them. Let me know in case you want the name & address of the AUSSIE marine supplier.

 

Best Regards Teun

January 20, 2020 14:45:41

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 14:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump

 

Teun,

 

I last time I saw an E51385 Pump Interface was in Europe, and that was almost a year ago. Coastal Climate Control in the US sold them, but no longer have any.

 

Bill


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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 3:33 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

Where in USA did you see the E51385 for sale? I have located some in AUSTRALIA but there is a payment issue which I think I can solve via my current boat agent in COOMERA but in case that fails I really want to have 2 or 3 for myself.

 

Best Regards Teun

January 20, 2020 14:33:05

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump

 

The normal amp draw of the FlowJet 4105-512 12VDC is 1.2. I assume that the "starting amperage" is momentarily higher. Considering everything, including voltage fluctuations when charging, maybe a 2 amp fuse is a little small.

 

I agree with you about installing multiple relays to replace the really nicely designed Frigoboat E51385 pump controller. If I had to replace the  E51385 with multiple relays, I would want to design an enclosure for the relays and a fuse for the load.

 

I have seen the E51385 for sale. I was probably old stock. 


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On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:

Thanks for that info Bill. I did not realize what changes have been made.
I would want to retain the blue box, as it is far simpler for us Amelians who have factory systems. Converting to relays and all the associated wiring would not be much fun.
Fortunately, I have had not issues with it, other than I had to go to a 3A fuse vs 2A. The 2A kept blowing unexpectedly - maybe an age thing there as the systems start to draw more current.
Jamie
A54 Phantom

Re: Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

We have 1300 (?) members. Perhaps a small assessment could help cover the cost also. I am willing.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site

 

All,

 

Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site from $110 per year to $220 per year. We have the Premium Plan, which you can see here: https://groups.io/static/pricing  

 

To review, in February 2019 when we moved from Yahoo to Groups.io, I guaranteed the annual payment of Group.io fees for the first five years and I stand by that even though I not aware that the price would increase. Several months after we moved from Yahoo, we were able to sell advertising to QSails on our Wiki page. We believed that this would offset the Group.io costs.

 

I will continue to guarantee the Group.io costs, but I will also look for other ways to offset them.

 

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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Porter McRoberts
 

The key is having about 20 of these 2 amp fuses on hand, when you rebuild the pump… sometimes the draw is higher or you miss something on the pump rebuild and it shorts...and then there goes another fuse!!!
Easy to order on Amazon, but not easy to get in many parts of the world!

Porter
A54-152 S/V IBIS


  

On Jan 20, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Bill,
 
Where in USA did you see the E51385 for sale? I have located some in AUSTRALIA but there is a payment issue which I think I can solve via my current boat agent in COOMERA but in case that fails I really want to have 2 or 3 for myself. 
 
Best Regards Teun
January 20, 2020 14:33:05
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump
 
The normal amp draw of the FlowJet 4105-512 12VDC is 1.2. I assume that the "starting amperage" is momentarily higher. Considering everything, including voltage fluctuations when charging, maybe a 2 amp fuse is a little small.
 
I agree with you about installing multiple relays to replace the really nicely designed Frigoboat E51385 pump controller. If I had to replace the  E51385 with multiple relays, I would want to design an enclosure for the relays and a fuse for the load.
 
I have seen the E51385 for sale. I was probably old stock. 

--
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
 
 
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
Thanks for that info Bill. I did not realize what changes have been made.
I would want to retain the blue box, as it is far simpler for us Amelians who have factory systems. Converting to relays and all the associated wiring would not be much fun.
Fortunately, I have had not issues with it, other than I had to go to a 3A fuse vs 2A. The 2A kept blowing unexpectedly - maybe an age thing there as the systems start to draw more current.
Jamie
A54 Phantom 


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

 

Teun,

I last time I saw an E51385 Pump Interface was in Europe, and that was almost a year ago. Coastal Climate Control in the US sold them, but no longer have any.

Bill

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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 3:33 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

Where in USA did you see the E51385 for sale? I have located some in AUSTRALIA but there is a payment issue which I think I can solve via my current boat agent in COOMERA but in case that fails I really want to have 2 or 3 for myself.

 

Best Regards Teun

January 20, 2020 14:33:05

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump

 

The normal amp draw of the FlowJet 4105-512 12VDC is 1.2. I assume that the "starting amperage" is momentarily higher. Considering everything, including voltage fluctuations when charging, maybe a 2 amp fuse is a little small.

 

I agree with you about installing multiple relays to replace the really nicely designed Frigoboat E51385 pump controller. If I had to replace the  E51385 with multiple relays, I would want to design an enclosure for the relays and a fuse for the load.

 

I have seen the E51385 for sale. I was probably old stock. 


--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:

Thanks for that info Bill. I did not realize what changes have been made.
I would want to retain the blue box, as it is far simpler for us Amelians who have factory systems. Converting to relays and all the associated wiring would not be much fun.
Fortunately, I have had not issues with it, other than I had to go to a 3A fuse vs 2A. The 2A kept blowing unexpectedly - maybe an age thing there as the systems start to draw more current.
Jamie
A54 Phantom

Re: Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site

Stefan Deerberg
 

Hello together!

This group is so useful for the most of us. I am a new member and very happy everyday to get a lot good informations. This can save  much money for everyone .
So please let me know the bank account to transver my share.

All the best 

Stefan 

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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

Where in USA did you see the E51385 for sale? I have located some in AUSTRALIA but there is a payment issue which I think I can solve via my current boat agent in COOMERA but in case that fails I really want to have 2 or 3 for myself.

 

Best Regards Teun

January 20, 2020 14:33:05

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump

 

The normal amp draw of the FlowJet 4105-512 12VDC is 1.2. I assume that the "starting amperage" is momentarily higher. Considering everything, including voltage fluctuations when charging, maybe a 2 amp fuse is a little small.

 

I agree with you about installing multiple relays to replace the really nicely designed Frigoboat E51385 pump controller. If I had to replace the  E51385 with multiple relays, I would want to design an enclosure for the relays and a fuse for the load.

 

I have seen the E51385 for sale. I was probably old stock. 


--

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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:

Thanks for that info Bill. I did not realize what changes have been made.
I would want to retain the blue box, as it is far simpler for us Amelians who have factory systems. Converting to relays and all the associated wiring would not be much fun.
Fortunately, I have had not issues with it, other than I had to go to a 3A fuse vs 2A. The 2A kept blowing unexpectedly - maybe an age thing there as the systems start to draw more current.
Jamie
A54 Phantom

Re: New companionway lock source

Arlo
 

Hello all. Ok so I cut off the plastic cover on the key and below is what I found. Looks like it is a FH 13 KIS key....anyone know where these can be bought from?

Re: Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site

Petaris
 

Hello,

It looks like the "Premium" plan allows for taking donations.  That might be an option.  I don't know how many members there are but a few dollars each would probably cover it.

Just an idea.

- Justin
Hopeful future SM owner


On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 2:53 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
All,

Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site from $110 per year to $220 per year. We have the Premium Plan, which you can see here: https://groups.io/static/pricing  

To review, in February 2019 when we moved from Yahoo to Groups.io, I guaranteed the annual payment of Group.io fees for the first five years and I stand by that even though I not aware that the price would increase. Several months after we moved from Yahoo, we were able to sell advertising to QSails on our Wiki page. We believed that this would offset the Group.io costs.

I will continue to guarantee the Group.io costs, but I will also look for other ways to offset them.

--
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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Super Maramu Passerelle Plans

Steve Bode
 

Hello, Friends. I need to replace the original Amel passerelle. Mine got DESTROYED in Ios, Greece last year when a ferry came RIPPING into the harbor and poor Intention bucked and pulled against her mooring lines and caught the passerelle between herself and the concrete dock. KABOOM. 

Anyway, who knows how to get a new passerelle made? Does anyone have the plans? Anyone want me to make a couple for the group? Gary Wells?


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Amel SM #117 (1994)
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facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site

 

All,

Groups.io has increased the price we pay for Webhosting, Operation, and Support for our Amel Yacht Owners Group site from $110 per year to $220 per year. We have the Premium Plan, which you can see here: https://groups.io/static/pricing  

To review, in February 2019 when we moved from Yahoo to Groups.io, I guaranteed the annual payment of Group.io fees for the first five years and I stand by that even though I not aware that the price would increase. Several months after we moved from Yahoo, we were able to sell advertising to QSails on our Wiki page. We believed that this would offset the Group.io costs.

I will continue to guarantee the Group.io costs, but I will also look for other ways to offset them.

--
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar

Re: Furler Top Swivel Santorin

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,

Never underestimate the friction of salt. It can slow or sieze any furler and can be corrected by simple washing. Most of us consider that solution too simple and try all sorts of expensive "solutions" instead. The same applies to all blocks pulleys etc.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 20 January 2020 at 14:08 Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> wrote:

I love this group!

@Hans: I did the same now, cleaned the foil several times, and it runs fine again, seems to be ok now. Next time we hoist the genua I will do this again. cleaning, cleaning, cleaning...  I am glad that I do not have to remove the furler...

@Ann-Sofie: the SN has a different swivel, nor GRP tube, Kali Mera ist from 1995, I think the last SNs have been build ~1996?, maye they changed it after that.

after a short sailing season we have to return to work, Kali Mera is relaxing in Mazatlan until October, with her new boat cover on. We made this last year and it turned out to be great. Temperature  inside is ~10 degrees C  lower, boat was absolutely clean and dry...   one of the "enhancements" I would do again.

fair winds
herbert, SN120, Kali Mera
 

Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Teun BAAS
 

Jamie,

Agree with you that the blue box is the easiest way for us: just swapping out the box and we should be good to go. I had to swap out the box this summer in VANUATU as it failed - luckily I had one on board but that was the last one.

I tried locating the blue box in the USA without success. However, have located in AUSTRALIA a marine store having 5 in stock; just spoke to them to confirm my Email and reserved 3 boxes as they don’t take overseas credit cards so I need my agent handling my boat currently in COOMERA pay for me.

If you can NOT locate a spare blue box this might be an option for you? 

Brgds Teun


On Jan 17, 2020, at 08:24, Jamie Wendell via Groups.Io <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:

Thanks for that info Bill. I did not realize what changes have been made.
I would want to retain the blue box, as it is far simpler for us Amelians who have factory systems. Converting to relays and all the associated wiring would not be much fun.
Fortunately, I have had not issues with it, other than I had to go to a 3A fuse vs 2A. The 2A kept blowing unexpectedly - maybe an age thing there as the systems start to draw more current.
Jamie
A54 Phantom

2002 Super Maramu For Sale in South Pacific

James Cromie
 

Soteria is a 2002 Super Maramu 2000, hull #347 and will be for sale after crossing the South Pacific this 2020 sailing season.  She is in excellent condition, meticulously maintained, and thoroughly outfitted for the upcoming Pacific Crossing.  Please see more information regarding her equipment and outfitting in the "Yachts for Sale" section.  Interested buyers are invited to contact us at jamescromie 'at' yahoo 'dot' com.  
Additional information and photos can be supplied upon request.  We re hoping to sell her directly to her new owners.

She is currently located on the Pacific Coast of Panama, and will be heading across the Pacific as of late February.  

James Cromie
SV Soteria
SM2k #347
Las Perlas, Panama

Re: Sailing higher latitudes

Symphony
 

I would not lead a hose or pipe from the engine room to the cockpit or below deck.  You will pipe in heat but also all the noise from the Engine Room.  It will work like a direct line for high and low frequency noise.

I am working on noise reduction on my boat now, and found wire chases leading from the engine room to the helm helm adding 5-8dB of noise.  amazing noise reduction by filling around the cables with dense foam.

Richard
Songbird
Vicem 58 Classic
New Haven, CT

Re: Awning

Herbert Lackner
 

here in Mazatlan, Mexico.  They do good canvas work here, Ruben is the guy.

herbert

Re: vetus coupling removal

Herbert Lackner
 

after aligning the engine with the "special tool" it runs smooth without vibrations. It took me 4 hours to lift the engine, do the alignment... and 6 hours to get the vetus coupling of the shaft. Because I had problems to take the coupling off I first tried to align it without the tool - impossible. Next day I was able to remove the coupling, then all was easy using the tool.

our alignment story:

In 2016 we have been in Martinique, the engine vibrations got worse, so we decided to make a gift to Kali Mera and buy her new engine mounts (I think they have never been changed, last ~ 20 years on the SN). I asked Amel in Martinique if they could change the mounts, they told me that they are not doing that but they have a local partner that does this job. When the recommended mechanic changed the mounts I asked him why he does not use the Amel tool to make the alignment. He replied that he has done this on 25 SMs in the last years and never used a tool, he is able to do the alignment without that. Recommended by Amel, an experience Expert, so I thought that all is good.  It was not.    

But now it is :-)  and it goes to "lessons learned"

fair winds, herbert
SN120, KALI MERA

Re: A54 rudder removal

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

Many thanks. I have just one more question (I hope!): when I replace the stuffing should I pack with grease?

 

I think I need to get your book.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 17 January 2020 13:12
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 rudder removal

 

Paul,

 

They are installed in layers. Sometimes, replacing the first layer is all that is needed, but there is no guarantee. If you replace the first layer, it may still leak at some point in the near future. That choice is yours.

 

I am not sure what tools you are using to remove the packing. There are many different tools available:

image.png

 

I hope this helps you.


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

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On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:46 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

After painstakingly digging out one of the existing stuffing rings I see no sign of dampness and the one I see below it seems to be in pretty good condition. As far as I know this is the first time this has been done and the boat is 12 years old. So I’m wondering if there is any point in going any further? I could just replace the one I dug out. What would be your advice?

 

And if I do need to replace all three then is there a prescribed technique for removing them? For the top one I just hacked away any which way I could!

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 16 January 2020 11:14
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 rudder removal

 

Paul, 

 

The rudder stuffing box should be the only thing that may need attention on your 54.

image.png

 

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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:43 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill, I’ll give it a try. I was wondering if there may be anything else that needs to be checked rudder-wise hence the notion of removing it.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 15 January 2020 21:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 rudder removal

 

You do not need to remove the rudder on the 54 to change the packing. You need to remove the top of the rudder post (the quadrant). Then remove the packing nut from the rudder post, remove the old packing, then insert new packing from Amel, and tighten the nut. In 90 days, you will likely need to tighten the nut again.

 

I have more detailed instructions, but considering your experience, the above will likely work for you.


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:24 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I want to remove my rudder to change the stuffing and do a general inspection, but have no clue as to how this is done, so would very much appreciate a point in the right direction.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Awning

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Herbert,

 

That’s a good looking awning you have. Where did you get it made?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Herbert Lackner
Sent: 19 January 2020 21:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Furler Top Swivel Santorin

 

forgot the foto...


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Furler Top Swivel Santorin

Herbert Lackner
 

forgot the foto...

Re: Furler Top Swivel Santorin

Herbert Lackner
 

I love this group!

@Hans: I did the same now, cleaned the foil several times, and it runs fine again, seems to be ok now. Next time we hoist the genua I will do this again. cleaning, cleaning, cleaning...  I am glad that I do not have to remove the furler...

@Ann-Sofie: the SN has a different swivel, nor GRP tube, Kali Mera ist from 1995, I think the last SNs have been build ~1996?, maye they changed it after that.

after a short sailing season we have to return to work, Kali Mera is relaxing in Mazatlan until October, with her new boat cover on. We made this last year and it turned out to be great. Temperature  inside is ~10 degrees C  lower, boat was absolutely clean and dry...   one of the "enhancements" I would do again.

fair winds
herbert, SN120, Kali Mera