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Amel 55 Fwd shower valve leaking

Billy Newport
 

I noticed yesterday that the fwd shower is dripping when turned off. It looks like a Paffoni brand shower mixer, the other taps in the bathrooms are similar brand.

Is there a rebuild kit for these? New washer or something? How do I remove the panel to get behind the shower fittings to service them. I can see screws on the top and bottom of the aft shower tap "box" but the fwd one has nothing obvious.

Billy
Amel 55#56


Re: A/C Heating unit thermal cut out

 

In Europe email info"at"veco-na.com

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 8:34 AM Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Hi Steve,
If you are in Italy currently try this link:


The manufacturer of Climma A/C units is an italian brand!
Hope this helps Onsite👍

Best and sty Safe.
Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ A54#088
 

Am 30.01.2021 um 15:26 schrieb Steve Bell <stevejb59@...>:

Hi Bill,
          We are in Italy so ordering from US is a problem, the unit is not tripping i fixed that problem a while back, the heater is just not working, the element is fine just the thermal cut out is open circuit i just need to replace the thermal cut out, i can order this locally i just need wanted to confirm the cut out temperture i assume it will be around 33-35 Celsius.

Regards

Steve
s/v Dusk #378


Re: A/C Heating unit thermal cut out

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Steve,
If you are in Italy currently try this link:


The manufacturer of Climma A/C units is an italian brand!
Hope this helps Onsite👍

Best and sty Safe.
Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ A54#088
 

Am 30.01.2021 um 15:26 schrieb Steve Bell <stevejb59@...>:

Hi Bill,
          We are in Italy so ordering from US is a problem, the unit is not tripping i fixed that problem a while back, the heater is just not working, the element is fine just the thermal cut out is open circuit i just need to replace the thermal cut out, i can order this locally i just need wanted to confirm the cut out temperture i assume it will be around 33-35 Celsius.

Regards

Steve
s/v Dusk #378


Re: A/C Heating unit thermal cut out

Steve Bell
 

Hi Bill,
          We are in Italy so ordering from US is a problem, the unit is not tripping i fixed that problem a while back, the heater is just not working, the element is fine just the thermal cut out is open circuit i just need to replace the thermal cut out, i can order this locally i just need wanted to confirm the cut out temperture i assume it will be around 33-35 Celsius.

Regards

Steve
s/v Dusk #378


Re: A/C Heating unit thermal cut out

 

Steve, 

I do not know, but you can buy it at info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com They also sell the fan capacitors. You did not say where you are located. I gave you a US source. 

But, let me assure you that 99% of the time the reason that trips is lack of airflow, and almost all of the time the cause is one or more of the fan capacitors is out of spec. You will not notice the reduced airflow. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 4:34 AM Steve Bell <stevejb59@...> wrote:
Hi All,
         Can anyone give me the specification for the thermal cut off (thermistor) on the climma ac unit. Our heater is not working and I have ascertained it is the thermal cut off which is faulty, I need to know what temp the one on there cuts off at,  so I can order a new one.

Regards

Steve
s/v Dusk #378


A/C Heating unit thermal cut out

Steve Bell
 

Hi All,
         Can anyone give me the specification for the thermal cut off (thermistor) on the climma ac unit. Our heater is not working and I have ascertained it is the thermal cut off which is faulty, I need to know what temp the one on there cuts off at,  so I can order a new one.

Regards

Steve
s/v Dusk #378


Re: ACMO Rigging

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Bill. Thank you for these responses. You are absolutely right. As well it was helpful to see acmos detailed responses.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 January 2021 at 02:49 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All, more information on chrome plating today vs chrome plating yesterday.

Laetitia Boudon < " target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-mce-href="mailto:laetitia@...>">laetitia@...> (laetitia"at"acmo.fr) wrote the following:

I forgot to tell you that the products for chrome plating are also weaker than before, always to protect nature. People need to understand this :) ACMO quality is still there!
Regarding her comm ent, "always to protect nature," I did some research and found the US EPA and the EU EPA has caused all of us some issues with chrome plating today vs yesterday.
https://www.pfonline.com/articles/hard-chrome-plating-its-past-present-and-future

--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: ACMO Rigging

Alain Durante
 

Dear Bill,

 

I agree 100% that Laeticia is very helpful and very kind. I just ordered a new rigging for Meige with stainless turnbuckle. I am also going to change the electric jib furler with a FACNOR EF+550S.

 

Cordialement,

Alain Durante

 

A54#21 / SV Meige

South of France

 

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Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ACMO Rigging

 

When you order, order from Laetitia Boudon <Laetitia"at"acmo.fr>. Thank her for the information and thank her for me.

 

Bill

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:25 AM Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

We are also about to order complete replacement rigging from ACMO so the timing of this information could not be better. We are pleased that these issues have been pointed out to us as part of this forum.

 

Kind regards

Ross and Donna

SV INTREPID KIWI

SM2K #356

Currently in Turkey


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On Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19 pm, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

I have just changed my order on Acmo to stainless.

 

Thank you Bill.

 

Peter

Peter Forbes

CARANGO

Amel 54 #035

La Rochelle

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:17, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Well done Bill from start to finish! A concern to all of us nearing replacing standing rigging and
you did a good job in keeping the group positive.


Re: ACMO Rigging

 

When you order, order from Laetitia Boudon <Laetitia"at"acmo.fr>. Thank her for the information and thank her for me.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:25 AM Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
We are also about to order complete replacement rigging from ACMO so the timing of this information could not be better. We are pleased that these issues have been pointed out to us as part of this forum.

Kind regards
Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19 pm, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

I have just changed my order on Acmo to stainless.

Thank you Bill.

Peter

Peter Forbes
CARANGO
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:17, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Well done Bill from start to finish! A concern to all of us nearing replacing standing rigging and
you did a good job in keeping the group positive.


Re: ACMO Rigging

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

We are also about to order complete replacement rigging from ACMO so the timing of this information could not be better. We are pleased that these issues have been pointed out to us as part of this forum.

Kind regards
Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356

On Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19 pm, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

I have just changed my order on Acmo to stainless.

Thank you Bill.

Peter

Peter Forbes
CARANGO
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:17, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Well done Bill from start to finish! A concern to all of us nearing replacing standing rigging and
you did a good job in keeping the group positive.


Re: Updated Event: ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning - Confirmed - Saturday, 13 February 2021 #cal-invite

 

Regrettably, we have to cancel this zoom presentation with Jimmy Cornell. He emailed me and said that he felt it was an injustice to do a presentation on a Pacific Voyage at this time because of the current restrictions in the Pacific countries. We will plan to do the presentation at the end of 2021 for those planning a Pacific Voyage in 2022. This will be better for those planning in 2022 because the information will be fresh.

I am attempting to get someone to present something in February at this date and time and will let you know when I have accomplished this.  
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:16 AM main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@groups.io> wrote:

ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning - Confirmed

When:
Saturday, 13 February 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Organizer: Bill Rouse BROUSE@... 4093563221

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

29 Jan Update - Canceled

Jimmy Cornell is joining our group again for another Ocean passage briefing.
This event will be the Pacific Voyage Planning. The Atlantic Voyage Planning meeting we had in October has been viewed by over 1219 Amel Owners and Amel enthusiasts.

Jimmy Cornell has influenced the contemporary cruising scene more than any other sailor. An accomplished sailor, public speaker, and author, he has sailed over 200,000 miles in all oceans of the world including three circumnavigations as well as voyages to Antarctica and the Northwest Passage.

Thousands of sailors have fulfilled their dream of blue water cruising with the help of Jimmy Cornell’s books, among them the international bestseller World Cruising Routes. Now in its 8th edition, and with over 200,000 copies sold to date, this is one of the best selling nautical publications in the world.

As the founder of the highly successful ARC transatlantic rally, Jimmy Cornell is credited with having devised the offshore cruising rally concept. In the last four decades, Jimmy Cornell has organized 38 transatlantic rallies, five round the world rallies, and one round the world race, with over 3,000 boats and 15,000 sailors having participated in his sailing events.

From my perspective, the first Jimmy Cornell seminar that Judy and I attended was after we had sailed most of the world and had over 20 years of sailing experience. We learned a lot!

We are very pleased that Jimmy has taken time out of his very busy schedule to give a special ZOOM presentation to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. I encourage you to RSVP soon for this meeting.

Zoom Meeting:
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83903104618?pwd=SUF5Q0g4TjJRUFRuMlZpTU43TnFEUT09

Meeting ID: 839 0310 4618
Passcode: 536562
 


Updated Event: ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning - Confirmed - Saturday, 13 February 2021 #cal-invite

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning - Confirmed

When:
Saturday, 13 February 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Organizer: Bill Rouse BROUSE@... 4093563221

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

29 Jan Update - Canceled

Jimmy Cornell is joining our group again for another Ocean passage briefing.
This event will be the Pacific Voyage Planning. The Atlantic Voyage Planning meeting we had in October has been viewed by over 1219 Amel Owners and Amel enthusiasts.

Jimmy Cornell has influenced the contemporary cruising scene more than any other sailor. An accomplished sailor, public speaker, and author, he has sailed over 200,000 miles in all oceans of the world including three circumnavigations as well as voyages to Antarctica and the Northwest Passage.

Thousands of sailors have fulfilled their dream of blue water cruising with the help of Jimmy Cornell’s books, among them the international bestseller World Cruising Routes. Now in its 8th edition, and with over 200,000 copies sold to date, this is one of the best selling nautical publications in the world.

As the founder of the highly successful ARC transatlantic rally, Jimmy Cornell is credited with having devised the offshore cruising rally concept. In the last four decades, Jimmy Cornell has organized 38 transatlantic rallies, five round the world rallies, and one round the world race, with over 3,000 boats and 15,000 sailors having participated in his sailing events.

From my perspective, the first Jimmy Cornell seminar that Judy and I attended was after we had sailed most of the world and had over 20 years of sailing experience. We learned a lot!

We are very pleased that Jimmy has taken time out of his very busy schedule to give a special ZOOM presentation to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. I encourage you to RSVP soon for this meeting.

Zoom Meeting:
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83903104618?pwd=SUF5Q0g4TjJRUFRuMlZpTU43TnFEUT09

Meeting ID: 839 0310 4618
Passcode: 536562
 


Photo New Stainless Steel Turnbuckle with Bronze.JPG uploaded #photo-notice

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The following photos have been uploaded to the Amel SM - Standing Rigging album of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group.

By: CW Bill Rouse


Re: ACMO Rigging

Peter Forbes
 

I have just changed my order on Acmo to stainless.

Thank you Bill.

Peter

Peter Forbes
CARANGO
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:17, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Well done Bill from start to finish! A concern to all of us nearing replacing standing rigging and
you did a good job in keeping the group positive.


Re: ACMO Rigging

Ian Park
 

Well done Bill from start to finish! A concern to all of us nearing replacing standing rigging and
you did a good job in keeping the group positive.


Re: ACMO Rigging

 

More very good information from ACMO:

ACMO now has a turnbuckle with a combination of Stainless Steel with Bronze. For a complete rigging kit for a SM the approximate increased cost is 150 €. This is a no-brainer.

Laetitia <laetitia@...> writes:
Do not hesitate to offer them the attached turnbuckle.
the ideal solution if your client is in a port where the air is a little chlorinated ...
All stainless steel turnbuckle with a bronze ring, no more chrome plating worries!  (Just a little more expensive)


--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: ACMO Rigging

Peter Forbes
 

Bill,

If this is the case - and who knows where the ‘air’ is chlorinated - is there a case to review the material that turnbuckles are made of? It is a pity if the ship looks bad because the turnbuckles can’t be buffed up?

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle - just having rig replaced!!!
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 29 Jan 2021, at 13:49, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


All, more information on chrome plating today vs chrome plating yesterday.

Laetitia Boudon <laetitia@...> (laetitia"at"acmo.fr) wrote the following:

I forgot to tell you that the products for chrome plating are also weaker than before, always to protect nature. People need to understand this :) ACMO quality is still there!
Regarding her comment, "always to protect nature," I did some research and found the US EPA and the EU EPA has caused all of us some issues with chrome plating today vs yesterday.
https://www.pfonline.com/articles/hard-chrome-plating-its-past-present-and-future

--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: ACMO Rigging

 

All, more information on chrome plating today vs chrome plating yesterday.

Laetitia Boudon <laetitia@...> (laetitia"at"acmo.fr) wrote the following:

I forgot to tell you that the products for chrome plating are also weaker than before, always to protect nature. People need to understand this :) ACMO quality is still there!
Regarding her comment, "always to protect nature," I did some research and found the US EPA and the EU EPA has caused all of us some issues with chrome plating today vs yesterday.
https://www.pfonline.com/articles/hard-chrome-plating-its-past-present-and-future

--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


locked Re: Rigging

 

I would appreciate it if members of this group adhere to the posting policies:

We encourage postings that will genuinely help Amel owners source needed parts and services. We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses in which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond. Members will register with their given names rather than aliases. Members who currently own an Amel should always sign postings with their given name, boat name, Amel model, and hull number.    

I am locking this thread and deleting posts.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 4:52 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hi Craig and Mark,

 We were rerigged in Hyeres about 4 years ago, ACMO turn buckles and wire direct from the German manufacturers.

 The wire is fine. The finish on the turnbuckles is undoubtedly inferior to that of the original ACMO ones fitted by Amel when Pen Azen was built 21 years ago.

 I have no doubts about the strength of the turnbuckles but it's a shame that ACMO seem now to skimp on the chrome.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: 29 January 2021 03:34
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Rigging
 
Mark Barter's "edited" post about his recently purchased ACMO rigging originally noted seemingly premature rusting of the wires and tarnished turnbuckles that could not be polished. I've had the same experience with my now 10 year old ACMO rigging and now that Mark mentions it, it did start seemingly early on but I dismissed that as normal. The turnbuckles, of course, are chromed bronze, not stainless, and, yes, the finish on mine, too, seemed to become dull quickly (a year or two)  and will not take a polish.

Mark went a bit overboard by stating things in a way that seem disparaging to a "favored" Amel vendor when he said he presumes "substandard stainless steel was used".  I strongly doubt that is the case as ACMO has been the factory supplier for years, but I think his concerns about the cosmetics are legitimate and I share his curiosity as to whether other owners have had similar experience, and/or a remedy.  I do take my favorite muriatic acid to the shrouds now and then and it does a great job of clearing the rust stains, but the turnbuckles remain a bit dingy and do not polish well.

Here's Mark's unedited post (without the pictures he notes). I don't know why but there was a link to this original when I read the post. 
In December 2019 we had our standing rigging replaced by Seanergie in Hyeres.They used ACMO rigging and WDS wire. I have attached some photos taken a week ago. As you will see the rigging is badly tarnished and rusting in places. The bottle screws won't polish. I can only presume that seriously sub standard stainless steel has been used because the guard rails which are 28 years old are still gleaming. Has anybody else experienced this problem with ACMO rigging?--Mark & Nicky BarterS/V NunkySM 110
Cheers, Craig --
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: ACMO Rigging

 

All, 

I locked this email thread because it violates posting rules, but I also contacted ACMO with the original poster's complaints about his rigging. The Amel Yacht Owners Group has this posting policy (in part): "Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses in which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond." I am sure we could argue the validity of this rule, but I believe it is one of the things that separate the Amel Yacht Owners Group from many other similar groups.
 
Please do not respond to this posting with further negative remarks about ACMO. If you believe that you have an issue with a purchase you made from ACMO, contact ACMO directly. ACMO has been an exceptional resource for many Amel owners. ACMO is the supplier of rigging to Amel and it is unusual that ACMO will deal directly with Amel owners. ACMO makes a quality product and if there is an issue, they have responded professionally.
 
And, BTW, I find it admirable that privately Laetitia Boudon said to me: 
"In your place, I would not have deleted this gentleman's post but try to help him, thank you, but I find it not the best solution :("

This was ACMO's complete response:
Hello Bill
I thank you for your feedback.
Do you know why the customer did not come to us to ask for help with this problem?

For cables:
It is very important that people understand that during the first months it is necessary to clean the cables with water and mild soap, because during the manufacture grease is used and the cleaning products are more environmentally friendly. When the cable is under tension, a little grease may come out and dust will stick to it! There is therefore appearance of this "rust" color which does not have any! You just have to scrub with a soft brush.

For the turnbuckles:
Do you know the place where the boat is "stowed"? According to my chromeur, the chlorine in the air can cause this problem, so I can change the turnbuckle cages for him.

For the axis:
I have no explanation for the moment. Can you have a photo of the axis side.


Do you think it's a good idea for me to talk to Mr. Mark Barter? I would like this client to contact me.

I will also contact SEANERGIE.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Laetitia Boudon

laetitia@....

 





--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

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