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Re: Holding Tank Discharge Lock

greatketch@...
 

Hmmmm...  Let me reconsider...

Some authorities say it is "suggested" that a Y-valve be secured, others say it is "required"...  The official Florida state website, for example says, "recommended"...

In any event, a lock, a handle removal, or a "non-reusable cable tie" are all listed as appropriate.  

I have had many boats inspected by the USCG, and they never asked to see the disabled handle.  But likely better to removed the handle as an easy solution.


Re: Holding Tank Discharge Lock

greatketch@...
 

There is no general requirement in US waters to lock the overboard discharge valve!

Some local jurisdictions or marinas might have such a rule, but it is most certainly not required in all US territorial waters.

That said, it is not legal to discharge your tank within 3 nautical miles of the coast, but you do not have to disable the discharge valve.

I have kept a boat in a marina which wanted the valve disabled.  Tying it shut with a plastic cable tie satisfied them.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Holding Tank Discharge Lock

Mark Erdos
 

Removing the handle meets the USCG requirements. It is also recommended to lock the handles away. This further satisfies the requirements.

 

Another option is to install a small flap door over the opening with the ability to lock the door. A piece of clear Plexiglas works well.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Marsh Harbour – Abaco Islands - Bahamas

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Holding Tank Discharge Lock

 

 

For those of you who are in or have been in US waters, how did you secure the valve for the holding tank discharge? I am puzzled as to an effective way of blocking the lever for the two valves.

Jeff
LAST TANGO.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Holding Tank Discharge Lock

karkauai
 

I remove and stow the valve handle away from the head. The USCG says that's good enough.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



On Feb 1, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

For those of you who are in or have been in US waters, how did you secure the valve for the holding tank discharge? I am puzzled as to an effective way of blocking the lever for the two valves.

Jeff
LAST TANGO.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Holding Tank Discharge Lock

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

When my vessel was in the US water, I was recommend to put duck tape.
I have never been checked, so don't know if this is enough... some people use lock (seems better).
my understanding is that you have to do something to prevent an accidental opening.
but I think, like always, it will depend of the person that inspect you, if he/she wants to find something to fine you with, he/she will find...

Hope you get more feedback on that.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Mon, 2/1/16, Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Holding Tank Discharge Lock
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, February 1, 2016, 8:16 AM


 









For those of you who are in or have been in US
waters, how did you secure the valve for the holding tank
discharge? I am puzzled as to an effective way of blocking
the lever for the two valves.



Jeff

LAST TANGO.
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Holding Tank Discharge Lock

Jeff Wingfield <ki4jde@...>
 

For those of you who are in or have been in US waters, how did you secure the valve for the holding tank discharge? I am puzzled as to an effective way of blocking the lever for the two valves.

Jeff
LAST TANGO.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Sea Chest Specifications

karkauai
 

Hi Gary,
That sounds like something I would do.  Oops!  Damn!!!
Like Alexandre, if I leave the top off of my sea chest and open the valve, water overflows the chest.

It sounds like Alex has the proper part identified.

Hope you can get one to PR soon.  With all sea cocks closed I think you'll be fine, but I'd be a bit nervous as you are.

Kent SM243 Kristy


On Jan 31, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Gary,

Sorry to read about your problem.

On mine (SM2K #289) it is likely NOT above the water line, because when I open the seacock the water fills up and would overflow if I did’t close the valve then put the top, but my vessel is very loaded and older (2000)… so may be different for yours being a more recent hull.

I purchase 2 spare strainers from Fisherie Supply:
Vetus 1320 Full Strainer DEN SET0187
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/vetus-denouden-den-set0187-set0187

When I look at the 1320 Series Intake Water Strainers, it looks like what we have:
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/vetus-denouden-1320-series-intake-water-strainers

I think and hope that “Replacement Lid with O-Ring for 1320 Series Raw Water Strainer” be the one you need, but I don’t know for sure and what do you have to loose.
Even if it doesn’t looks the same as what I have I would guess it fit (since the basket fits)
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/vetus-denouden-replacement-lid-with-o-ring-for-1320-series-raw-water-strainer-ftr13201

Please keep us posted, and I seriously believe you should have the sea cock closed.
I would hate someone making a wave and your boat start to fill up with water… not sure the insurance would agree to cover either…

Please keep us posted.
Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands.

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On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 8:44 AM


 









Hello All:
May
I offer my congratulations to BIll & Judy Rouse as well
upon their completing their circumnavigation and their
extensive and accurate contributions to this forum.  Those
contributions enhance the value of every Amel owners boat,
in my opinion.
Now for my stupid move
confession and questions about the Super Maramu sea
chest.

Yesterday afternoon while hurrying to
complete preparations to leave our boat for 7 weeks, I was,
as usual, flushing all the systems with fresh water.  I had
closed the seacock, used one of the toilet sea water fill
buttons to lower the water level in the sea chest a bit,
opened the sea chest, placed the lid in a bucket along with
the lightly fouled strainer.  I took those items to the
finger pier to clean them.  While cleaning these items, I
stupidly knocked the sea chest lid into the water at the
slip.  I can attest that it does NOT float.  Now I am
stuck, have to leave to catch a plane and have jeopardized
my boat.  Dumb, Dumb, DUMB. 
I carefully monitored the water level in
the sea chest for about 30 minutes and don't see that it
is rising above the level of the engine supply line and I
have no alternative but to leave, and pray, all the while
having visions of my boat sinking in her slip. 
Questions that occurred to me while
enduring my agonizing 14 hour trip home.  1.  Is
the top of the sea chest above waterline level?  I suppose
it depends on how the boat is loaded.  I could have tested
this by opening the sea cock a little to see fi the water
level rose but in the heat of the moment I didn't do
that.2.  I believe the sea chest is an Amel modified
Vetus unit.  Anybody have any idea if Amel can supply a new
lid or if a new lid is available from Vetus?  I will
contact Amel on Monday morning La Rochelle time to see if
they can overnight a lid to Puerto Rico.
I have tried to find a diver to retrieve
the lid but it was Saturday afternoon, two hours before
dark.  Hoping to get somebody today (Sunday), but in the
meantime I turn to you, my fellow forum members for any
additional ideas.
Note to
self, don't do stupid things. 
Sincerely, 
Gary Silver    s/v Liahona    SM
#335    Slip 1423,  Puerto Del Rey Marina  
Fajardo, Puerto Rico









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

seafeverofcuan
 

Gary,
       For now why not have the caretaker knock in a wooden plug either on the outside of the hull or inside the sea chest and have him check the water level daily.
Best regards,
Trevor
 Ireland


Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Duane Siegfri
 

I can't remember where I read the article, but it cautioned against using "hose bib pressure" to flush the seawater circuit.  The general thrust was if you connect the dock hose directly to a connection on the seachest, you will pressurize the seawater circuit, which can lead to filling the waterlift muffler and having it back up into the engine or generator.

I have a spare lid to the seachest with a quick-connect for a hose and have been using that to flush the entire seawater circuit.  So far it hasn't resulted in a problem, but the article I read has concerned me a great deal.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

eric freedman
 

Hi Alexandre,

Yes that is the hose. The one on a reel.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

 

 

Dear Eric,

Ok glad to know!

By the hose that comes with the boat, do you mean the one at the foot of the mizzen mast?
If yes, then not surprised it doesn’t deliver enough water.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:50 PM


 









Alexandre,You would be surprised
how much water the genset and engine use. I only slow down
the flow of water with a valve at the end of the hose
closest to the sea chest when I am flushing the
toilets.I have been doing this
for a few years without any hose problems. I use a regular
garden hose as the hose that comes with the boat does not
allow enough water flow for the genset.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:42
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Thanks for your reply Eric,


Definitely something I
want to do as I believe this will tremendously increase the
life of the engine, genset and other equipments.
I might be too cautious, but would too much
pressure put too much stress on the hoses?
On my ski boat, I had a valve and could adjust
the water flow (the reason was I wanted to increase
temperature so that the thermostat open and the block is
washed)…

My preliminary
thoughts (to avoid too much water pressure from the dock)
are:
spare strainer lid with water hose
connector (likely Gardena) connected to a hose, itself
connected to the bottom of a bucket (also with gardena
connection).
From the dock, water hose with
valve (to adjust the water flow) filling the bucket.
This way, I think this is a more “as
needed” water flow.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks &
Caicos

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On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:26 PM


 









Hi
Alexandre,I connect the
hose
directly to the shore water.I run the
genset,
engine, anchor wash, air
conditioning and then the
toilets.I have a
valve on the
hose near the end so I can shut
off the water between
operations.I can’t
say how long
I leave the water run, I just
run as I feel is
appropriate.You will find
that the
water pressure from the dock causes
the water to go past the
toilet pumps and
fill the bowls. In the last few years I
have
not seen a problem with this.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Good afternoon
Gary,

I didn’t know
seacock could
have a slight leakage, so yes
I totally understand your
concern.

Anyway, I just
added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to
you
directly.

Andrew, I love
the idea of
having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique),
I
did that (to rinse the engine with fresh
water).
How do you control the water flow?
Do you have
like a bucket above the hose
that you fill up, how long do
you let it
run, etc.
Or do you only rinse
the other systems (anchor wash, air
conditioning, toilets,
etc.)

Sincerely,
Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos
Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners]
Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your
replies.
 Each was very
helpful.  As to
why I am concerned? This
is
such a critical
system
and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed
slight leakage
past the valve
will
eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest
(as most have noted).
 I feel very uncomfortable
not having the
lid in place.
I
have located
a diver and I am
trying to find
a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for
in
the murky
water, yet
having scanned every
photo on this site and
all,
2,400 pictures I
have
taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the
sea-chest lid or even
of the
seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't
get
any photo respect. 
Could
someone take a pic of
the
sea-chest lid and
one of
the sea-chest so that the diver
will
know what he is looking for and then my
caretaker will
know where to put it.
 Please post here or
just email the
photos to me at garysilver at
mac dot com.
Thanks again for
the replies,
the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM
#335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Dear Eric,

Ok glad to know!

By the hose that comes with the boat, do you mean the one at the foot of the mizzen mast?
If yes, then not surprised it doesn’t deliver enough water.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:50 PM


 









Alexandre,You would be surprised
how much water the genset and engine use. I only slow down
the flow of water with a valve at the end of the hose
closest to the sea chest when I am flushing the
toilets.I have been doing this
for a few years without any hose problems. I use a regular
garden hose as the hose that comes with the boat does not
allow enough water flow for the genset.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:42
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Thanks for your reply Eric,


Definitely something I
want to do as I believe this will tremendously increase the
life of the engine, genset and other equipments.
I might be too cautious, but would too much
pressure put too much stress on the hoses?
On my ski boat, I had a valve and could adjust
the water flow (the reason was I wanted to increase
temperature so that the thermostat open and the block is
washed)…

My preliminary
thoughts (to avoid too much water pressure from the dock)
are:
spare strainer lid with water hose
connector (likely Gardena) connected to a hose, itself
connected to the bottom of a bucket (also with gardena
connection).
From the dock, water hose with
valve (to adjust the water flow) filling the bucket.
This way, I think this is a more “as
needed” water flow.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks &
Caicos

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On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:26 PM


 









Hi
Alexandre,I connect the
hose
directly to the shore water.I run the
genset,
engine, anchor wash, air
conditioning and then the
toilets.I have a
valve on the
hose near the end so I can shut
off the water between
operations.I can’t
say how long
I leave the water run, I just
run as I feel is
appropriate.You will find
that the
water pressure from the dock causes
the water to go past the
toilet pumps and
fill the bowls. In the last few years I
have
not seen a problem with this.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Good afternoon
Gary,

I didn’t know
seacock could
have a slight leakage, so yes
I totally understand your
concern.

Anyway, I just
added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to
you
directly.

Andrew, I love
the idea of
having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique),
I
did that (to rinse the engine with fresh
water).
How do you control the water flow?
Do you have
like a bucket above the hose
that you fill up, how long do
you let it
run, etc.
Or do you only rinse
the other systems (anchor wash, air
conditioning, toilets,
etc.)

Sincerely,
Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos
Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners]
Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your
replies.
 Each was very
helpful.  As to
why I am concerned? This
is
such a critical
system
and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed
slight leakage
past the valve
will
eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest
(as most have noted).
 I feel very uncomfortable
not having the
lid in place.
I
have located
a diver and I am
trying to find
a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for
in
the murky
water, yet
having scanned every
photo on this site and
all,
2,400 pictures I
have
taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the
sea-chest lid or even
of the
seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't
get
any photo respect. 
Could
someone take a pic of
the
sea-chest lid and
one of
the sea-chest so that the diver
will
know what he is looking for and then my
caretaker will
know where to put it.
 Please post here or
just email the
photos to me at garysilver at
mac dot com.
Thanks again for
the replies,
the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM
#335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

eric freedman
 

Alexandre,

You would be surprised how much water the genset and engine use. I only slow down the flow of water with a valve at the end of the hose closest to the sea chest when I am flushing the toilets.

I have been doing this for a few years without any hose problems. I use a regular garden hose as the hose that comes with the boat does not allow enough water flow for the genset.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

 

 

Thanks for your reply Eric,

Definitely something I want to do as I believe this will tremendously increase the life of the engine, genset and other equipments.
I might be too cautious, but would too much pressure put too much stress on the hoses?
On my ski boat, I had a valve and could adjust the water flow (the reason was I wanted to increase temperature so that the thermostat open and the block is washed)…

My preliminary thoughts (to avoid too much water pressure from the dock) are:
spare strainer lid with water hose connector (likely Gardena) connected to a hose, itself connected to the bottom of a bucket (also with gardena connection).
From the dock, water hose with valve (to adjust the water flow) filling the bucket.
This way, I think this is a more “as needed” water flow.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos

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On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:26 PM


 









Hi
Alexandre,I connect the hose
directly to the shore water.I run the genset,
engine, anchor wash, air conditioning and then the
toilets.I have a valve on the
hose near the end so I can shut off the water between
operations.I can’t say how long
I leave the water run, I just run as I feel is
appropriate.You will find that the
water pressure from the dock causes the water to go past the
toilet pumps and fill the bowls. In the last few years I
have not seen a problem with this.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Good afternoon Gary,

I didn’t know seacock could
have a slight leakage, so yes I totally understand your
concern.

Anyway, I just
added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to you
directly.

Andrew, I love
the idea of having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique), I
did that (to rinse the engine with fresh water).
How do you control the water flow? Do you have
like a bucket above the hose that you fill up, how long do
you let it run, etc.
Or do you only rinse
the other systems (anchor wash, air conditioning, toilets,
etc.)

Sincerely,
Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos
Islands

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On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your
replies.
 Each was very helpful.  As to
why I am concerned? This is
such a critical
system and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed
slight leakage
past the valve will
eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest
(as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable
not having the lid in place.
I
have located a diver and I am
trying to find
a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for in
the murky
water, yet having scanned every
photo on this site and all,
2,400 pictures I
have taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the
sea-chest lid or even
of the
seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get
any photo respect. 
Could
someone take a pic of the
sea-chest lid and
one of the sea-chest so that the diver
will
know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it.  Please post here or
just email the
photos to me at garysilver at
mac dot com.
Thanks again for the replies,
the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM
#335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 


I copied this idea from a previous post of Eric's - works very well

Andrew

SM472
Canet en Roussillon

On 31 Jan 2016, at 20:26, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Alexandre,

I connect the hose directly to the shore water.

I run the genset, engine, anchor wash, air conditioning and then the toilets.

I have a valve on the hose near the end so I can shut off the water between operations.

I can’t say how long I leave the water run, I just run as I feel is appropriate.

You will find that the water pressure from the dock causes the water to go past the toilet pumps and fill the bowls. In the last few years I have not seen a problem with this.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

 

 

Good afternoon Gary,

I didn’t know seacock could have a slight leakage, so yes I totally understand your concern.

Anyway, I just added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to you directly.

Andrew, I love the idea of having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique), I did that (to rinse the engine with fresh water).
How do you control the water flow? Do you have like a bucket above the hose that you fill up, how long do you let it run, etc.
Or do you only rinse the other systems (anchor wash, air conditioning, toilets, etc.)

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your replies.
 Each was very helpful.  As to why I am concerned? This is
such a critical system and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed slight leakage
past the valve will eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest (as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable
not having the lid in place.
I have located a diver and I am
trying to find a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for in the murky
water, yet having scanned every photo on this site and all,
2,400 pictures I have taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the sea-chest lid or even
of the seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get
any photo respect. 
Could someone take a pic of the
sea-chest lid and one of the sea-chest so that the diver
will know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it.  Please post here or just email the
photos to me at garysilver at mac dot com.
Thanks again for the replies, the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM #335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks for your reply Eric,

Definitely something I want to do as I believe this will tremendously increase the life of the engine, genset and other equipments.
I might be too cautious, but would too much pressure put too much stress on the hoses?
On my ski boat, I had a valve and could adjust the water flow (the reason was I wanted to increase temperature so that the thermostat open and the block is washed)…

My preliminary thoughts (to avoid too much water pressure from the dock) are:
spare strainer lid with water hose connector (likely Gardena) connected to a hose, itself connected to the bottom of a bucket (also with gardena connection).
From the dock, water hose with valve (to adjust the water flow) filling the bucket.
This way, I think this is a more “as needed” water flow.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 1/31/16, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 1:26 PM


 









Hi
Alexandre,I connect the hose
directly to the shore water.I run the genset,
engine, anchor wash, air conditioning and then the
toilets.I have a valve on the
hose near the end so I can shut off the water between
operations.I can’t say how long
I leave the water run, I just run as I feel is
appropriate.You will find that the
water pressure from the dock causes the water to go past the
toilet pumps and fill the bowls. In the last few years I
have not seen a problem with this.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM
Sea Chest Specifications    Good afternoon Gary,

I didn’t know seacock could
have a slight leakage, so yes I totally understand your
concern.

Anyway, I just
added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to you
directly.

Andrew, I love
the idea of having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique), I
did that (to rinse the engine with fresh water).
How do you control the water flow? Do you have
like a bucket above the hose that you fill up, how long do
you let it run, etc.
Or do you only rinse
the other systems (anchor wash, air conditioning, toilets,
etc.)

Sincerely,
Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos
Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your
replies.
 Each was very helpful.  As to
why I am concerned? This is
such a critical
system and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed
slight leakage
past the valve will
eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest
(as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable
not having the lid in place.
I
have located a diver and I am
trying to find
a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for in
the murky
water, yet having scanned every
photo on this site and all,
2,400 pictures I
have taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the
sea-chest lid or even
of the
seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get
any photo respect. 
Could
someone take a pic of the
sea-chest lid and
one of the sea-chest so that the diver
will
know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it.  Please post here or
just email the
photos to me at garysilver at
mac dot com.
Thanks again for the replies,
the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM
#335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

eric freedman
 

Hi Alexandre,

I connect the hose directly to the shore water.

I run the genset, engine, anchor wash, air conditioning and then the toilets.

I have a valve on the hose near the end so I can shut off the water between operations.

I can’t say how long I leave the water run, I just run as I feel is appropriate.

You will find that the water pressure from the dock causes the water to go past the toilet pumps and fill the bowls. In the last few years I have not seen a problem with this.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

 

 

Good afternoon Gary,

I didn’t know seacock could have a slight leakage, so yes I totally understand your concern.

Anyway, I just added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to you directly.

Andrew, I love the idea of having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique), I did that (to rinse the engine with fresh water).
How do you control the water flow? Do you have like a bucket above the hose that you fill up, how long do you let it run, etc.
Or do you only rinse the other systems (anchor wash, air conditioning, toilets, etc.)

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your replies.
 Each was very helpful.  As to why I am concerned? This is
such a critical system and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed slight leakage
past the valve will eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest (as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable
not having the lid in place.
I have located a diver and I am
trying to find a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for in the murky
water, yet having scanned every photo on this site and all,
2,400 pictures I have taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the sea-chest lid or even
of the seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get
any photo respect. 
Could someone take a pic of the
sea-chest lid and one of the sea-chest so that the diver
will know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it.  Please post here or just email the
photos to me at garysilver at mac dot com.
Thanks again for the replies, the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM #335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Gary,

I didn’t know seacock could have a slight leakage, so yes I totally understand your concern.

Anyway, I just added 3 pictures of the lid on:
http://nikimat.com/vetus_1320_raw_water_filter_strainer.html

I will also email them to you directly.

Andrew, I love the idea of having a hose attachment for fresh water.
On my ski boat (Correct Craft Ski Nautique), I did that (to rinse the engine with fresh water).
How do you control the water flow? Do you have like a bucket above the hose that you fill up, how long do you let it run, etc.
Or do you only rinse the other systems (anchor wash, air conditioning, toilets, etc.)

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 1/31/16, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:49 AM


 









Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your replies.
 Each was very helpful.  As to why I am concerned? This is
such a critical system and a leak could have such dire
consequences, even with the sea-cock closed slight leakage
past the valve will eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest (as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable
not having the lid in place.
I have located a diver and I am
trying to find a picture of the lid to email to him so he
knows what he's looking for/feeling for in the murky
water, yet having scanned every photo on this site and all,
2,400 pictures I have taken of my boat and its systems, I
can't find a single picture of the sea-chest lid or even
of the seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get
any photo respect. 
Could someone take a pic of the
sea-chest lid and one of the sea-chest so that the diver
will know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it.  Please post here or just email the
photos to me at garysilver at mac dot com.
Thanks again for the replies, the
information, and photos. 
Sincerely, Gary Silver
 SM #335  S/V Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi James: 

Thanks for attempting the picture, however I don't see it posted in the photos section and if you attached it to you email, Yahoo deletes those, I think.  At any rate, I didn't receive it.  could you email it to me at garysilver at mac dot com  (Note, email addresses in the normal format with ampersand and dot are truncated by Yahoo, hence the full language text of my email address.

Thanks, I will anxiously await your email.  PS what boat were you looking at?

Gary 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

James Studdart
 

Hello,
I bet you're about to get inundated with rather dull photos of sea chests!
BUT just incase, here is one from a recent visit (we've very nearly just
bought a SM2k). It's just the whole thing I'm afraid, I don't have one of
only the lid.

I hope it helps and I feel for you!

Cheers,
James.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:49 PM amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:



Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your replies. Each was very
helpful. As to why I am concerned? This is such a critical system and a
leak could have such dire consequences, even with the sea-cock closed
slight leakage past the valve will eventually overflow the top of the
sea-chest (as most have noted). I feel very uncomfortable not having the
lid in place.

I have located a diver and I am trying to find a picture of the lid to
email to him so he knows what he's looking for/feeling for in the murky
water, yet having scanned every photo on this site and all, 2,400 pictures
I have taken of my boat and its systems, I can't find a single picture of
the sea-chest lid or even of the seachest/thru-hull. Boy, it just doesn't
get any photo respect.

Could someone take a pic of the sea-chest lid and one of the sea-chest so
that the diver will know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will
know where to put it. Please post here or just email the photos to me at
garysilver at mac dot com.

Thanks again for the replies, the information, and photos.

Sincerely,
Gary Silver
SM #335
S/V Liahona


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Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks Alexandre, Mark and Andrew for your replies.  Each was very helpful.  As to why I am concerned? This is such a critical system and a leak could have such dire consequences, even with the sea-cock closed slight leakage past the valve will eventually overflow the top of the sea-chest (as most have noted).  I feel very uncomfortable not having the lid in place.

I have located a diver and I am trying to find a picture of the lid to email to him so he knows what he's looking for/feeling for in the murky water, yet having scanned every photo on this site and all, 2,400 pictures I have taken of my boat and its systems, I can't find a single picture of the sea-chest lid or even of the seachest/thru-hull.  Boy, it just doesn't get any photo respect. 

Could someone take a pic of the sea-chest lid and one of the sea-chest so that the diver will know what he is looking for and then my caretaker will know where to put it.  Please post here or just email the photos to me at garysilver at mac dot com.

Thanks again for the replies, the information, and photos. 

Sincerely, 
Gary Silver  
SM #335  
S/V Liahona


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Sea Chest Specifications

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi Gary

 

If the seacock is closed and you left the boat in that state then surely there is no problem for now or am I missing something?

 

I bought part number FTR13201 - Vetus Cover & O-ring for Raw Water Filter FTR1320 – from the vetus shop and confirm that this fits our sea chest. I bought this to adapt it to have a hose attachment for the same job of rinsing though the system with fresh water. It is however missing the handy addition on top that Amel has added to make it easier to undo, but otherwise fits perfectly.

 

Regards

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM 472

Canet en Roussillon

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: 31 January 2016 15:44
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Sea Chest Specifications

 

 

Hello All:

 

May I offer my congratulations to BIll & Judy Rouse as well upon their completing their circumnavigation and their extensive and accurate contributions to this forum.  Those contributions enhance the value of every Amel owners boat, in my opinion.



Now for my stupid move confession and questions about the Super Maramu sea chest.

 

Yesterday afternoon while hurrying to complete preparations to leave our boat for 7 weeks, I was, as usual, flushing all the systems with fresh water.  I had closed the seacock, used one of the toilet sea water fill buttons to lower the water level in the sea chest a bit, opened the sea chest, placed the lid in a bucket along with the lightly fouled strainer.  I took those items to the finger pier to clean them.  While cleaning these items, I stupidly knocked the sea chest lid into the water at the slip.  I can attest that it does NOT float.  Now I am stuck, have to leave to catch a plane and have jeopardized my boat.  Dumb, Dumb, DUMB. 

 

I carefully monitored the water level in the sea chest for about 30 minutes and don't see that it is rising above the level of the engine supply line and I have no alternative but to leave, and pray, all the while having visions of my boat sinking in her slip. 

 

Questions that occurred to me while enduring my agonizing 14 hour trip home.  

1.  Is the top of the sea chest above waterline level?  I suppose it depends on how the boat is loaded.  I could have tested this by opening the sea cock a little to see fi the water level rose but in the heat of the moment I didn't do that.

2.  I believe the sea chest is an Amel modified Vetus unit.  Anybody have any idea if Amel can supply a new lid or if a new lid is available from Vetus?  I will contact Amel on Monday morning La Rochelle time to see if they can overnight a lid to Puerto Rico.

 

I have tried to find a diver to retrieve the lid but it was Saturday afternoon, two hours before dark.  Hoping to get somebody today (Sunday), but in the meantime I turn to you, my fellow forum members for any additional ideas.

 

Note to self, don't do stupid things. 

 

Sincerely, 

 

Gary Silver    s/v Liahona    SM #335    

Slip 1423,  Puerto Del Rey Marina   Fajardo, Puerto Rico