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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

James Alton
 

Here is a link which covers some of the technical information behind battery gassing and venting. 

The article also explains some of the differences in gel batteries and other types, some of which I feel is pertinent to this discussion.   

Best

James





On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:32 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


The selector is numbered 0 to 9. Consult the hand book to find which number does what.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Excellent, I will check it to make sure it is set right.
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 3:13 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)











Re: Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

Gary Wells
 

My experience with this was from an air leak on the intake side of the raw water system. It did get progressively worse until I figured it out.  A small crack in the hose attaching to the transmission cooler was allowing air into the system, the gurgling was quite pronounced until I fixed it with new hoses.:)

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Gibraltar.



Re: B &G Analog Boatspeed Display

Gary Wells
 

From Annapolis, I sent mine off to Tinley's in Great Britain for repair of the internal backlight. It came back properly lit, but not registering speed.  They offered to warranty the work, but having sailed south, shipping from Martinique was equal to a local repair shop's quote so I had them work it there.  It is still backlit nicely but after about 200 miles it quit again. Inconvenient but not essential I put off another attempt and crossed to Portugal without it.
I know there is an option at Nanny Cay in Tortola, but their backlog was such thatI couldn't get it looked at there.
Now that I'm in Gibralter, I will start the circuit again as shipping to Great Britain is not prohibitively expensive.
Write to Tinley's (they are now called A&T Instruments).  info@...

I think you'll find them most helpful.

Best of luck!

Gary W.
SM 209 Adagio
Gibraltar



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill that may well be the case. However it was some years into my ownership that encouraged  by a techy friend I went searching. Very hard to find the adjuster, very small and hiding behind a wire.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Danny and James ,
Not all Dolphin chargers are adjustable for types of batteries. However, all of the Dolphins originally installed on 54s are adjustable. Later hull number SMs were also adjustable (maybe beginning with hull 400+). Adjustments vary from what Danny described to a DIP type switch.
Danny, I think your boat was adjustable because they were not original equipment.
BeBe #387 did not come with adjustable (for battery type) Dolphin chargers.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 4, 2016 3:15 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine.. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

The selector is numbered 0 to 9. Consult the hand book to find which number does what.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Excellent, I will check it to make sure it is set right.
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 3:13 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..." Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Simply setting the chargers to AGM may not be sufficient in some cases.

For example, our Trojan AGM batteries specifically require a float charge of 27V... which is less than the default Mastervolt float charge rate. 

The Mastervolts can easily be adjusted to float at 27V via PC (with a USB-MasterBus interface) *or* via an Easyview interface; but if either is not already installed on the boat, it may be necessary to call a technician.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350
At anchor, Portofino



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

Bob Grey
 

The gurgle under my feet also occurred when the main motor raw water flow was constricted. The cause  was a weed blocked oil cooler on the transmission. We have a particularly nasty ribbon weed in our bay that passes through the standard sea chest filter, I now clean the oil cooler water inlet every oil change. I have been advised by local marine mechanics that the best thing is to add a fine stainless steel mesh filter to the existing plastic filter in the sea chest. 

Bob Grey
Amel 55
Renaissance 3

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 06:14, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

It is supposed to make a gurgling sound.

Possibly the sound has changed because you have some restriction in the raw water pathway?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 4, 2016 2:22 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

As I suppose is standard procedure, the main engine raw water supply to the engine is routed through a fairly large diameter stainless tube forming an anti siphon loop (I think). A nipple is located on the forward edge of the loop and a small diameter flexible tube runs to the drain for the cockpit under the main hatch grating. Increasingly, this arrangement gurgles like a giant with gastric distress. Besides being annoying, I am wondering why this is happening. There appears to be no check valve in the circuit.

Has anyone experienced the same phenomenon? Remedy?

Jeff
LAST TANGO
A - 54 101


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

So I found a photo I took last year that showed the bow thruster motor cables in relation to the specification plate fixed to the motor casing and returned to the boat tonight and verified the repaired motor cables are in the same place so it appears that the cables in our bow thruster motor come out at the front starboard side. Looking at others photos, although the principles are the same the whole bow thruster assembly has changed quite a bit in the later SMs. Just waiting for the replacement solenoids and batteries now. Thanks for help / comments.

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM 472

Canet en Roussillon

 

From: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, 1 July 2016 at 19:42
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

 

 

Thanks Bill

 

To be fair on the engineer I had removed the lower and upper plates before I gave it to him - but it looks increasingly like the wires need to be moved through 90 degrees.

 

Andrew


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have a much older model than you, but my wires come out the port side of the motor.

 

Bill Kinney

SM#160 Harmonie

Highlands, NJ

 

 

On Jul 1, 2016, at 13:12, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Alexandre

 

No hurry I cannot do anything for a few days because of my own work commitments. I need someone to put their hand behind the motor and see if the wires come out the port or starboard side of the motor towards the front of the boat

 

Andrew

SM 472


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:02, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Can you find your answer looking at the pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

I am super short on time, about to go to dentist appointment, then grocery shopping, etc. 
If it doesn't help and no one can't reply, let me know and I look tonight.

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 7/1/16, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:19 AM


 












Hi



I wonder if
someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that
refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake
in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to
the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming
out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and
down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and
down - I think in this position they may interfere with the
lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think
they should be coming
out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward
corner?



Thanks



Andrew



Sm472


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From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Repair and Main Relay

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...






 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.

Kent

Curaçao 

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Danny and James ,

Not all Dolphin chargers are adjustable for types of batteries. However, all of the Dolphins originally installed on 54s are adjustable. Later hull number SMs were also adjustable (maybe beginning with hull 400+). Adjustments vary from what Danny described to a DIP type switch.

Danny, I think your boat was adjustable because they were not original equipment.

BeBe #387 did not come with adjustable (for battery type) Dolphin chargers.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 4, 2016 3:15 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw Water Circuit

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jeff,

Go to the website for Amel Yacht Owners>>>Photos then search for sea chest. Lots of photos and information there.

Or try this link: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1208267126

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Jul 4, 2016 2:53 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I would greatly appreciate advice on cleaning the raw water circuit from the sea chest through the manifold. We are on Chesapeake Bay and jellyfish are clogging the strainer and getting beyond.

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

It is supposed to make a gurgling sound.

Possibly the sound has changed because you have some restriction in the raw water pathway?

Bill Rouse
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On Jul 4, 2016 2:22 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

As I suppose is standard procedure, the main engine raw water supply to the engine is routed through a fairly large diameter stainless tube forming an anti siphon loop (I think). A nipple is located on the forward edge of the loop and a small diameter flexible tube runs to the drain for the cockpit under the main hatch grating. Increasingly, this arrangement gurgles like a giant with gastric distress. Besides being annoying, I am wondering why this is happening. There appears to be no check valve in the circuit.

Has anyone experienced the same phenomenon? Remedy?

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B &G Analog Boatspeed Display

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Your B&G manual should give you setting procedures for the analog gauges.

If the problem is the analog gauge, be sure to try Tinley Electronics in the UK. They will repair, refurbish, and rebuild these components.

Email sarah"at"tinley.net for information.

Bill Rouse
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On Jul 4, 2016 3:27 PM, "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Jeff, I replaced my B&G Hydra 2000 with the new 5000, but you can get access to the back of the helm gauges above the galley ceiling. There are about 6 small wires to each one that go from there to the processor behind the nav station. Possibly one is loose at the gauge or at the processor. You might try swapping the connections, but I'll bet that is a pain. Does the light on the gauge work?

Good luck, I do not know of any way to test the gauge from the Hydra display itself.

Jamie
 
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On Monday, July 4, 2016 2:20 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
It appears the analog boat speed indicator at the helm has lost its connection to the source. The larger multifunction indicator (digital) is operating and data is still provided to the Furuno helm chart plotter. Anyone have a suggestion for troubleshooting the B & G analog display?

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Excellent, I will check it to make sure it is set right.
 
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On Monday, July 4, 2016 3:13 PM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

If the siphon is making a lot of noise, I would bet it is related to the jellyfish in the sea chest. As was noted, low water flow in the engine cooling loop could cause the gurgling, which sounds a bit like cavitation to me.
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 3:00 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Jeff,
 
I had a similar experience. Our anti siphon is located at the raw water disposal end of the heat exchanger and disposes the water in the mixing elbow. This is to prevent water from siphoning back through the exhaust into the engine. I don’t see what good it would do on the supply side as you state.
 
Systems for this vary. Some have valves. Other are open at the top of the siphon. The down side of the valve is it can become clogged or stuck and you would only know it was faulty when it is too late. The open system is better but it does make noises. If the hole is kept clean, the noise can be lessened. Ours made a whistle that drove me absolutely crazy. I reamed the hole a little wider and ensure I keep it clean. This seems to work.
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
www.creampuff.us
Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing
 
 
As I suppose is standard procedure, the main engine raw water supply to the engine is routed through a fairly large diameter stainless tube forming an anti siphon loop (I think). A nipple is located on the forward edge of the loop and a small diameter flexible tube runs to the drain for the cockpit under the main hatch grating. Increasingly, this arrangement gurgles like a giant with gastric distress. Besides being annoying, I am wondering why this is happening. There appears to be no check valve in the circuit.

Has anyone experienced the same phenomenon? Remedy?

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw Water Circuit

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

I cleaned mine out when I found the strainer had clogged up so much you could barely get a pencil through it. Plus I had an eel in the AC pump impeller. The refrigerators and the AC units were all shutting off.

I had to take a broom handle and shove it through the strainer and down through the seacock to get water flow again. You have to close the valve and then open quickly to get the broom in, as a lot of water will come in. Then I hooked up a garden hose to the hose that feeds the fridge and ACs and blasted water through the AC outlet and refrigerator outlets on the port side and near the bow port side. A lot of gook came through but it worked. A messy job though.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 2:53 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I would greatly appreciate advice on cleaning the raw water circuit from the sea chest through the manifold. We are on Chesapeake Bay and jellyfish are clogging the strainer and getting beyond.

Jeff
LAST TANGO




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B &G Analog Boatspeed Display

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Jeff, I replaced my B&G Hydra 2000 with the new 5000, but you can get access to the back of the helm gauges above the galley ceiling. There are about 6 small wires to each one that go from there to the processor behind the nav station. Possibly one is loose at the gauge or at the processor. You might try swapping the connections, but I'll bet that is a pain. Does the light on the gauge work?

Good luck, I do not know of any way to test the gauge from the Hydra display itself.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 2:20 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
It appears the analog boat speed indicator at the helm has lost its connection to the source. The larger multifunction indicator (digital) is operating and data is still provided to the Furuno helm chart plotter. Anyone have a suggestion for troubleshooting the B & G analog display?

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw Water Circuit

Mark Erdos
 

Jeff,

 

When we were in the Chesapeake last summer, I used a shop-vac to suck the jelly fish from the strainer in the seachest. They do not get through the strainer. I did this about every day if we were running the AC or engine.

 

At the end of our season there I was due to service all the water cooled parts on the Yanmar including removing the heat exchanger and after cooler. There we no indications of jellyfish.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 1:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw Water Circuit

 

 

I would greatly appreciate advice on cleaning the raw water circuit from the sea chest through the manifold. We are on Chesapeake Bay and jellyfish are clogging the strainer and getting beyond.

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Portlight Screens

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Jeff, I have the same problem with the screens. I am planning to try contact cement - the kind you use to seal plastic laminate on wood. I will let you know if it works. It needs something really strong.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Monday, July 4, 2016 2:08 PM, "Jeff Wingfield ki4jde@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Gaskets surrounding the white plastic screen frames are coming loose from the frame. It appears the black rubber gasket is attached with double sided tape pr perhaps another adhesive. Does anyone have a suggestion for the best adhesive to repair/reattach the gasket?

Jeff
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi James,
the dolphin has a simple small screwdriver turned selector for all battery types. It is located under the removable cover on the bottom front of the unit. The selector is very small and quite hard to see if you don't know its there. It is at the top left of the area exposed by the cover removal.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] House Battery Replacement

 
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure what others have but I have the Mastervolt 24V alternator and it has an external smart regulator. I need to read up on it, but presumably it could handle any type of AGM batteries, since that is what I had with the Intimidators. I know my Morningstar MPPT solar regulator is set for AGM. The boat came with the original Dolphin 100A and a replacement Charles 45A, which is what I use when I am plugged in. Again, I know it is set to AGM. I am not sure about the Dolphin, since I was rarely on generator power and even then the Charles seems to do the trick.

I am going to discuss all with my electrician after my insurance company approves the repairs. My insurance wants a thorough test of the entire electrical system, and my electrician is the one who added the fuse systems that protect all the feeders from the battery compartment - there are I think 10 fuses on the wall just downstream of the main cutoff switches. I do not have a fuse in the 12V starter/alternator feeder to the engine. By the way, one of the 24V fuses blew when the explosion happened. It may have been a fire if I did not have that fuse installed - who knows. Thank goodness there was no fire.

Still no final statement from the surveyor the insurance company hired as to what caused the explosion.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044




On Monday, July 4, 2016 5:50 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Agree with Bill's comments.  In our case, we had to re-program both Mastervolt chargers for AGM charging and add external Mastervolt regulation to the factory Leece-Neville alternator, also properly programmed for AGM charging.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Camoglie (Génova)





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

Mark Erdos
 

Jeff,

 

I had a similar experience. Our anti siphon is located at the raw water disposal end of the heat exchanger and disposes the water in the mixing elbow. This is to prevent water from siphoning back through the exhaust into the engine. I don’t see what good it would do on the supply side as you state.

 

Systems for this vary. Some have valves. Other are open at the top of the siphon. The down side of the valve is it can become clogged or stuck and you would only know it was faulty when it is too late. The open system is better but it does make noises. If the hole is kept clean, the noise can be lessened. Ours made a whistle that drove me absolutely crazy. I reamed the hole a little wider and ensure I keep it clean. This seems to work.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo Raw Water Anti Siphon Plumbing

 

 

As I suppose is standard procedure, the main engine raw water supply to the engine is routed through a fairly large diameter stainless tube forming an anti siphon loop (I think). A nipple is located on the forward edge of the loop and a small diameter flexible tube runs to the drain for the cockpit under the main hatch grating. Increasingly, this arrangement gurgles like a giant with gastric distress. Besides being annoying, I am wondering why this is happening. There appears to be no check valve in the circuit.

Has anyone experienced the same phenomenon? Remedy?

Jeff
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A - 54 101