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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Ian,

I use a Pela Pump.  I chose the 6 liter size.  

Biggest benefit is that it sucks all the oil out of genset and engine as I leave it in the sump overnight.  Will suck out the oil from your Lofrans too. Works good to remove foam from the C drive oil tank when the seals are no longer ..new.  

Also sucks water out of inaccessible places as the tubes are about 4 MM and can snake into some quite small spots.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 3 Jun 2016, at 12:32, ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan,  Thanks. Trying to extract the old oil with a pump is an interesting game !

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen SM 302 Ithaca




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: correct installation of a new charger

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Enio,

first connect the batteries cables to the charger (12V positive and negative). Then connect the 230V charger's cable (230V LIVE, NEUTRAL and EARTH) to the dedicated breaker at the 230V panel in galley.
Check that the charger works (look at the battery monitor for volts and amps).
While the charger is charging, check that the charger's body is connected to the AC earth (measure the resistance which should be 0.0 ohm). If the resistance is high or infinite, you should connect the charger's body to the AC earth.
Then, check the DC voltage between the batteries negative and the charger's body, then between the batteries positive and the charger's body. Both should be 0 volt. If you find a voltage there, don't install this charger.

Have a good day.


On Friday, June 3, 2016 2:34 PM, "rossienio@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hello Olivier and all. Thank you for your answer. My boat is the Santorin no.122.The new charger is Sterling pro-charge N. This replaces the original TECSUP of AMEL. I do not know if this new charger should have the carcass to the ground connection, or not. And if so where I would connect the ground screw?? Sorry, but I do not remember if and where it was connected the TECSUP.Regards.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: correct installation of a new charger

enio rossi
 

Hello Olivier and all. Thank you for your answer. My boat is the Santorin no.122.The new charger is Sterling pro-charge N. This replaces the original TECSUP of AMEL. I do not know if this new charger should have the carcass to the ground connection, or not. And if so where I would connect the ground screw?? Sorry, but I do not remember if and where it was connected the TECSUP.Regards.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Alexadre, Thank you--your email has arrived , hopefully it has now broken the log jam. Nothing in my spam , something of a mystery.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Itahca
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 03 June 2016 10:20:30
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

Good morning Ian,

I have suspected something similar, that some reader did not see my reply, because they were going to the spam box.
So make sure you check your spam box.

Alexandre



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On Fri, 6/3/16, ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 3, 2016, 5:10 AM












Bill, Thank you, as ever. For
some weird reason which I cannot yet fathom I can still send
but have stopped receiving emails from this website and
have only read your response after going onto the main
website and searching through June's
emails.
If anyone
knows how to fix my email problem that would also be very
useful!
Ian and Judy,
Pen Azen, SM 302, Ithaca









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Re: Lofrans anchor winch

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Alan,  Thanks. Trying to extract the old oil with a pump is an interesting game !
 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen SM 302 Ithaca


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch and Genset

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Eric,   Thanks for both suggestions . Vamos a ver !
 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ithaca


Re: Onan generator

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Alan,   Thanks, fuel and oil filters changed 18 hours ago--and regularly every season, so I think I can rule that out. 
 Ian 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

When did you last change the fuel filter on the ONAN ?
That could be the problem.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Ian,

I have suspected something similar, that some reader did not see my reply, because they were going to the spam box.
So make sure you check your spam box.

Alexandre



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On Fri, 6/3/16, ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 3, 2016, 5:10 AM


 









Bill,         Thank you, as ever. For
some weird reason which I cannot yet fathom I can still send
but  have stopped receiving emails from this website and
have only read your response after going onto the main
website and searching through June's
emails.
 If anyone
knows how to fix my email problem that would also be very
useful!
Ian and Judy,
Pen Azen, SM 302, Ithaca









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Bill, 
        Thank you, as ever. For some weird reason which I cannot yet fathom I can still send but  have stopped receiving emails from this website and have only read your response after going onto the main website and searching through June's emails.

 If anyone knows how to fix my email problem that would also be very useful!

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ithaca


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bench Vise

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Re bench work box you saw it on Caramelle Black and Decker WM450 though I think it is no longer made perhaps you can buy onEBayor similar


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

eric freedman
 

Very bad- but that can be good!

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 1:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

 

 

Yes sorry my mistake...

Oil for the Bow Thruster should be 90... my bad.

Alexandre

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On Thu, 6/2/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 11:50 AM


 









Alexandre,I believe Bill was
talking about the oil in the c-drive changing from 20-40 to
80-90.Are you talking about
the bow thruster or the C-drive?Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:01
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size
for Bow Thruster seal    Interesting change on the
seal size for the bow thruster…

2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from
Amel (La Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the
seal on the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.

Thinking it was an error, I
contacted Maud which just confirm that they have modified a
little the diameters of the seal so that they are more water
tight.
Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is
29 x 42 x 8 she added you won’t be able to put them by
hand, but will need to grease and use a tool “emporte
piece” in french (I personally used PVC pipe).

Glad to see they keep
improving their system: the seal, then previous as Bill
mention the oil viscosity, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto
Rico










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Yes sorry my mistake...

Oil for the Bow Thruster should be 90... my bad.

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 6/2/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 11:50 AM


 









Alexandre,I believe Bill was
talking about the oil in the c-drive changing from 20-40 to
80-90.Are you talking about
the bow thruster or the C-drive?Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:01
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size
for Bow Thruster seal    Interesting change on the
seal size for the bow thruster…

2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from
Amel (La Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the
seal on the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.

Thinking it was an error, I
contacted Maud which just confirm that they have modified a
little the diameters of the seal so that they are more water
tight.
Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is
29 x 42 x 8 she added you won’t be able to put them by
hand, but will need to grease and use a tool “emporte
piece” in french (I personally used PVC pipe).

Glad to see they keep
improving their system: the seal, then previous as Bill
mention the oil viscosity, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto
Rico










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

eric freedman
 

Alexandre,

I believe Bill was talking about the oil in the c-drive changing from 20-40 to 80-90.

Are you talking about the bow thruster or the C-drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

 

 

Interesting change on the seal size for the bow thruster…

2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.

Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of the seal so that they are more water tight.
Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I personally used PVC pipe).

Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

karkauai
 

Thanks Alex, now I understand.  A picture is worth a thousand words!
Kent


On Jun 2, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Kent,

The seal I am talking about is the following:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_62.jpg
it goes on the tuffnol shaft (inside diameter 30 mm now 29 mm) and fit on the bow thruster foot (outside diameter 42 mm)
So by making it tighter, 29 versus 30 mm it should/will be more water tight.
but since the shaft (I just measured) is 29.47, so putting a seal which is 29.00 mm diameter will be difficult.

Regarding the bearings, before they were what I believe is called “open” (bearing). So you see the balls.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_32.jpg
and
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_35.jpg
Now they are “closed” I didn’t take pictures of the ones I receive, but they look like:
http://images-cdn.azureedge.net/azure/in-resources/7b1e3a30-1a8c-4732-ad14-f856fe78923a/Images/ProductImages/Source/6000-C3_1.jpg;width=600
you don’t see the balls anymore, they are protected.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/2/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 10:08 AM


 









Hi Alex,I guess I'm unclear
about this change.  The outside diameter remains at 42mm,
while the inside diameter is smaller.  Why is it harder to
install the seal?  It seems to me it would be harder to get
the shaft through the seal???  Do you install the seal on
the shaft first, then into its seat in the hull?  I've
always installed it into the hull first, then brought the
shaft up through it.
Thanks,KentSM243Kristy Currently Bonaire 


On Jun 2,
2016, at 10:00 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Interesting change on the seal size for the bow
thruster…



2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La
Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on
the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.



Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just
confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of
the seal so that they are more water tight.

Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added
you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to
grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I
personally used PVC pipe).



Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then
previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



















Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Kent,

The seal I am talking about is the following:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_62.jpg
it goes on the tuffnol shaft (inside diameter 30 mm now 29 mm) and fit on the bow thruster foot (outside diameter 42 mm)
So by making it tighter, 29 versus 30 mm it should/will be more water tight.
but since the shaft (I just measured) is 29.47, so putting a seal which is 29.00 mm diameter will be difficult.

Regarding the bearings, before they were what I believe is called “open” (bearing). So you see the balls.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_32.jpg
and
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_35.jpg
Now they are “closed” I didn’t take pictures of the ones I receive, but they look like:
http://images-cdn.azureedge.net/azure/in-resources/7b1e3a30-1a8c-4732-ad14-f856fe78923a/Images/ProductImages/Source/6000-C3_1.jpg;width=600
you don’t see the balls anymore, they are protected.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 6/2/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 10:08 AM


 









Hi Alex,I guess I'm unclear
about this change.  The outside diameter remains at 42mm,
while the inside diameter is smaller.  Why is it harder to
install the seal?  It seems to me it would be harder to get
the shaft through the seal???  Do you install the seal on
the shaft first, then into its seat in the hull?  I've
always installed it into the hull first, then brought the
shaft up through it.
Thanks,KentSM243Kristy Currently Bonaire 
On Jun 2,
2016, at 10:00 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Interesting change on the seal size for the bow
thruster…



2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La
Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on
the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.



Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just
confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of
the seal so that they are more water tight.

Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added
you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to
grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I
personally used PVC pipe).



Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then
previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

karkauai
 

You lost me there, Alex.
Kent


On Jun 2, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Also forgot to mention the 2 bearings around the tuffnol start are closed and no longer open but closed.
They are now 6006 2RS1 instead of the previous 6006 which is still use at the top.

Sincerely, Alexandre

---------------------------------


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

karkauai
 

Hi Alex,
I guess I'm unclear about this change.  The outside diameter remains at 42mm, while the inside diameter is smaller.  Why is it harder to install the seal?  It seems to me it would be harder to get the shaft through the seal???  Do you install the seal on the shaft first, then into its seat in the hull?  I've always installed it into the hull first, then brought the shaft up through it.

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy 
Currently Bonaire 


On Jun 2, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Interesting change on the seal size for the bow thruster…

2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.

Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of the seal so that they are more water tight.
Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I personally used PVC pipe).

Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Also forgot to mention the 2 bearings around the tuffnol start are closed and no longer open but closed.
They are now 6006 2RS1 instead of the previous 6006 which is still use at the top.

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Thu, 6/2/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 9:00 AM


 









Interesting change on the seal size for the bow
thruster…



2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La
Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on
the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.



Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just
confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of
the seal so that they are more water tight.

Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added
you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to
grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I
personally used PVC pipe).



Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then
previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico











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Frigoboat Refrigerator Troubleshooting

karkauai
 

Here is a blurb from Climma about our reefers and what can go wrong with them. I'm only iPhone and can't figure out how to post it in the Files section.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

danfoss-secop bd compressorMost marine refrigeration, and all Frigoboat systems, use the Danfoss BD 35 and BD 50 compressors which are incredibly reliable machines and very robust. It takes a lot of abuse to "kill" one (they don't simply die from natural causes), so if you suspect that your compressor is faulty, it's important to know how these compressors work, how they can be damaged, and what symptoms to look for.

The Danfoss BD 35 and BD 50 compressors are identical except that the BD 50 has a little more cubic capacity and therefore a slightly higher Btu rating. The compressor and motor are hermetically sealed inside a steel canister and supported on vibration-absorbing springs. There is no shaft seal that could leak refrigerant.

COMPRESSOR – The compressor is a single-cylinder device with a crankshaft that when rotated pushes a piston in and out of a cylinder, compressing the gas. A simple valve plate allows gas to be drawn in on the down-stroke, and the gas to be compressed and then released on the up-stroke. The compressor assembly is mounted above the motor, and the vertical crankshaft is a continuation of the motor shaft.

MOTOR - The compressor crankshaft is rotated by means of a poly-phase inductively coupled motor that has no brushes to fail or wear out. There are three sets of windings arranged around the stator, and the ends of these windings terminate on a three-pin connector that provides for the electrical connection through the compressor shell. The rotor is built around the shaft that connects directly to the compressor crankshaft.

ELECTRONIC COMPRESSOR CONTROLLER – Also known as a "module", this is a vital part of the compressor, and the motor cannot run without it. The controller is mounted on the compressor on a special bracket, and secured with a screw. It is electrically connected to the motor via a three-wire plug that is pushed on to the three-pin connector on the compressor shell. The compressor controller basically takes the 12v or 24v DC input and energizes each of the three windings in turn, causing the motor shaft to rotate. Varying the speed at which the windings are energized varies the speed of rotation of the shaft.
So what could possibly go wrong?

COMPRESSOR – Oil is carried around the system by the refrigerant, so there is constant lubrication of bearings, etc. and the possibility of a mechanical failure is practically non-existent.

There have been some cases of cylinder head gasket failure due to running Keel Cooled systems when out of the water, and with no temporary cooling rigged up. This results in higher than normal suction pressure and poor performance, and can be checked by uncoupling the suction line coupling and watching the suction pressure on refrigerant gages. The compressor should be able to draw the suction pressure down to at least 20 in Hg.

The valve plate can easily be damaged by overcharging a system with refrigerant to such an extent that liquid refrigerant is allowed to enter the cylinder. Refrigeration compressors are designed to compress gas only, not liquids, and the introduction of any liquids i.e. water, excess oil, leak detecting fluids, "conditioners" etc. into the cylinder will inevitably lead to valve plate failure. This condition will result in poor differential pressures (discharge-suction), again evidenced with the use of refrigeration gages.
MOTOR – As with the compressor, the bearings are well lubricated by oil carried around the system by the refrigerant, so mechanical failure is highly unlikely. If the motor is not turning, it is almost certain that the electronic controller is preventing it from running for some reason (see below).

The motor windings can be tested for continuity with a simple multi-meter at the three-pin connector. All three windings should be the same value, approx. 1.5 - 3 ohms, and there should be no continuity from any of the windings to the shell of the compressor.

ELECTRONIC MOTOR CONTROLLER – Being an electronic item, there is a high risk from failure due to water damage, lightning, power supply anomalies, and other causes. By far the greatest number of problems reported have been traced to the power supply to the controller.

A document describing the correct power supply testing procedure can be found here; http://veco-na.com/technicalinformation/frigoboattechnicalinfo.html

The controller has the provision for a 12v diagnostic LED to be connected across the "D" and "+" terminals. The LED will flash a code if one of five fault conditions exists that will prevent the compressor from operating. The code is either one to five flashes dependent on the nature of the fault, as listed below. Each flashing error code cycle is repeated every 4 seconds. When a fault is detected, the compressor will stop (if already running) but the fan or water pump, if applicable, will continue to run. A re-start will be attempted approximately every 60-90 seconds. The fan or water pump will stop during restart attempts.
• One Flash – Indicates low voltage. Voltage at the incoming power terminals on the Danfoss controller has dropped to less than 10.4v (22.8v). Voltage must rise above the cut-in voltage of 11.7v (24.2v) before the compressor will attempt a re-start.

NOTE: If the initial power applied at start-up is less than 11.8v (24.3v), there will be no fault code flashing on the diagnostic LED, but the compressor will not attempt to start until the voltage has risen above 11.7v (24.3v). Under this condition, if a digital thermostat is installed (e.g. Guardian or Coastal MK II Thermostat), the digital display will be lit and showing normal information.

• Two Flashes – Indicates an overload on the Fan output. The fan output cannot support an average load greater than 0.5 amp, or a peak load greater than 1 amp for two seconds.

• Three Flashes – Indicates that the compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a compressor re-start too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It can also be caused by a refrigerant over-charge.

• Four Flashes – Indicates that the compressor cannot reach minimum speed of 1,850 RPM.

• Five Flashes – Indicates that the electronics heat sink has exceeded 212 deg F (100 deg C). This can be due to an overcharge of refrigerant, water in the system, or excessive ambient temperatures combined with a compressor operating under extreme load. A re-start will be attempted when heat sink has cooled to 170 deg F (80 deg C).


[Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Interesting change on the seal size for the bow thruster…

2 weeks ago, I received many spare parts from Amel (La Rochelle), as I was labelling them I noted that the seal on the tufnol shaft bow thruster was 29 x 42 x 8.

Thinking it was an error, I contacted Maud which just confirm that they have modified a little the diameters of the seal so that they are more water tight.
Before it was 30 x 42 x 8 now it is 29 x 42 x 8 she added you won’t be able to put them by hand, but will need to grease and use a tool “emporte piece” in french (I personally used PVC pipe).

Glad to see they keep improving their system: the seal, then previous as Bill mention the oil viscosity, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico