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Re: Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Bill,

You never cease to amaze me - thank you very much.

I will get it copied hopefully for less than the asking price of USD 319.

Great - that’s progress.

Best wishes to you and Judy

Peter

Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 10 Dec 2020, at 13:54, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Peter,

That is the antisiphon plumbing for your Onan. It is different on a 54 than a SM. 
This used part on eBay may work for you, but you need to verify dimensions: 
<image.png>


Or, possibly the Vetus universal plastic ANTI SYPHON DEVICE WITH VALVE, 13 - 32 MM can fit. I like this one because you don't need to worry about corrosion and hoses with internal diameters of 13, 19, 25, or 32mm will fit. Also, the air bleed connection rotates through 360°: 
<image.png>


My only other recommendation is removing it and having a stainless steel welder duplicate it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:44 AM Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730






Re: Gib Track Plugs

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

  We used the Amel plastic plugs but in the Med sun they have a life of no more than 3-4 years

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Kilada , Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: 10 December 2020 14:18
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gib Track Plugs
 
Hi we replaced all our plastic Genoa plugs last year. I had to cut about two millimetre off each one as they were too long. I used a Stanley knife which cut through them easily. Cleaning out the holes was straight forward as the old ones (18 years old) were reasonably crumbly and UV damaged. I coated each one with clear silicon and tapped them in using a wooden dowel and a hammer. Once in it was just a matter of removing any excess silicon.

We are really happy with the job and the attached photo shows plugs in place along with our current COVID project. No the decks aren’t blue that’s masking tape.

Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Finike, Turkey


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On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:54 am, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi we replaced all our plastic Genoa plugs last year. I had to cut about two millimetre off each one as they were too long. I used a Stanley knife which cut through them easily. Cleaning out the holes was straight forward as the old ones (18 years old) were reasonably crumbly and UV damaged. I coated each one with clear silicon and tapped them in using a wooden dowel and a hammer. Once in it was just a matter of removing any excess silicon.

We are really happy with the job and the attached photo shows plugs in place along with our current COVID project. No the decks aren’t blue that’s masking tape.

Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Finike, Turkey

On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:54 am, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Amel 54

 

Peter,

That is the antisiphon plumbing for your Onan. It is different on a 54 than a SM. 
This used part on eBay may work for you, but you need to verify dimensions: 
image.png

Or, possibly the Vetus universal plastic ANTI SYPHON DEVICE WITH VALVE, 13 - 32 MM can fit. I like this one because you don't need to worry about corrosion and hoses with internal diameters of 13, 19, 25, or 32mm will fit. Also, the air bleed connection rotates through 360°: 
image.png

My only other recommendation is removing it and having a stainless steel welder duplicate it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:44 AM Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730






Re: Surveyor in Antigua?

 

There is only one surveyor in the world that I recommend and that is Olivier Beaute.

The following surveyor is, I believe, the only surveyor located in Antigua. I know that he has surveyed 2 Amels.

Ken Stuart
MRINA     IAMI (CMI)
Stuart’s Marine Survey and Investigations
Telephone 268 560 8206        cell 268 464 2778
e-mail:      stuartsmarinesurvey@...
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:52 PM Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is there an Antigua FaceBook Page you can inquire on?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in Antigua?
We are doing our haul out bottom paint and the usual maintenance next week.
Was thinking that if I need a survey for the next round of finding insurance for next year I might call for a survey proactively.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Marina Antigua


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I replaced the original Amel seat with a seat from Todd.  It fits well and looks pretty good.  I use the 655341 seat with the 650772 mounting plate both from Todd and reused the original pedestal mounting plate from Amel.

https://www.defender.com/search.html?q=655341&x=0&y=0


--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Jamie Wendell
 

Scott, I redrilled the holes in the plate to fit the new chair bottom. It is quite strong, and I carry a spare chair.
Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

luvkante
 

Interested.

Bill, you are our hero.

Martin

AMEL 54 # 149 CHIARA


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

luvkante
 

Interested. 


Thx Bill for this great initiative! You are our hero.

Martin

AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 


Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Dirk Hooff
 

Hello Bill,
I am also very interested in this PVC manifold. May be, we could use the free valve in the A 54 to regularly flush the system with fresh water.
This would prevent the formation of organisms in the lines for the air conditioning system and the refrigerators.
Such an access also simplifies the flushing of the system with glycerine (antifreeze) at wintertime.

Thank´s for your support, great idea.

Dirk
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SY PÉNÉLOPE   
AMEL 54#96

E-Mail: sypenelope@...
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Am 08.12.2020 um 17:10 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
<image.png>

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
<image.png>

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
<image.png>

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Peter Forbes
 

Bill,

good morning - well here at least!

Carango would be interested in an A54 manifold.

Thank you and best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango A 54 #035 La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 10 Dec 2020, at 06:51, Aktan Temiz <aktantemiz@...> wrote:


"interested"
Thank you Bill.
Aktan

CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>, 8 Ara 2020 Sal, 19:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
<image.png>


There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
<image.png>


I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
<image.png>


The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar



--
Aktan TEMiZ
+90 532 296 5599
aktantemiz@...


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Aktan Temiz
 

"interested"
Thank you Bill.
Aktan

CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>, 8 Ara 2020 Sal, 19:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
image.png

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
image.png

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
image.png

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar



--
Aktan TEMiZ
+90 532 296 5599
aktantemiz@...


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks everyone for the comments. 

We're in Tahiti now so probably will wait until a cheaper place (anywhere!!!) before we buy a replacement. The leather cover is getting a bit tired, so it's probably time to just replace it.

Jamie - did you redrill the holes on the chair or the Amel stainless plate? I presume the former but I want to check to make sure. Also, is the plate under the seat reasonably strong? We don't like going upwind but Neptune knows that so we end up doing 40 degrees apparent more often than I like and want the seat frame to be strong so I don't land on my head.

I'm thinking of this one:


On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:08 PM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
I had the same problem. The plastic seat was totally busted.
After contacting Amel, they told me they cannot supply a replacement, so I looked on line.
I found a really good replacement at Wayfair in the US.
I bought 2 different styles called "Clay Stool by Wade Logan" just to have a spare.
You have to redrill the existing holes, but it is very easy to adapt and works just like the original.
No one would know it is not the original - maybe not quite as comfortable, but...it works and it is cheap.
Jamie
Phantom A54 #44


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Danny. That’s reassuring.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:54 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gib Track Plugs

 

Hi Mark,

I didn't coat them with anything. As to longevity, I only have two or three years up so far but I have no reason to expect them to fail prematurely.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 10 December 2020 at 11:53 Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Thanks Danny. I have a dremel tool bit I think will work well to clean the holes. Just to clarify, you didn’t coat the plugs with anything? And they have lasted well?

 

 

I do believe there is more than one size. Maud asked me to measure the holes to make certain she shipped the correct ones.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gib Track Plugs

 

Hi Mark,

I replaced mine with the plugs from Amel. Very happy with the result. I cleaned out the holes and tapped the new plugs in with a rubber hammer. Takes a while digging the old and crumbling plugs but after 18 years I guess the plugs had done well. In the dark recesses of my mind there is a memory that there are two sizes. Not sure about that though.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 09 December 2020 at 16:16 Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am getting ready to tackle a project I have been putting off for a while. I need to replace the screw cover plugs in the genoa track. I would like to get this right the first time and not have to redo this.

 

I ordered plugs from Amel. I was sent white semi opaque plugs the exact size of the hole. I am not sure these are going to have much UV protection so I have a question to those who have done this. Did you cover or treat the top of the plug with something such as paint before installation?

 

I have some Dow 737 goop to seal the plugs (this was recommended on this forum). I do not think this has any UV protection properties, so again, the same question. How do I protect the plug?

 

Many thanks.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


 


 

 

 


 


 


Re: Surveyor in Antigua?

Matt Salatino
 

Is there an Antigua FaceBook Page you can inquire on?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in Antigua?
We are doing our haul out bottom paint and the usual maintenance next week.
Was thinking that if I need a survey for the next round of finding insurance for next year I might call for a survey proactively.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Marina Antigua


Surveyor in Antigua?

Michael & Robyn
 

Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in Antigua?
We are doing our haul out bottom paint and the usual maintenance next week.
Was thinking that if I need a survey for the next round of finding insurance for next year I might call for a survey proactively.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Marina Antigua


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Jamie Wendell
 

I had the same problem. The plastic seat was totally busted.
After contacting Amel, they told me they cannot supply a replacement, so I looked on line.
I found a really good replacement at Wayfair in the US.
I bought 2 different styles called "Clay Stool by Wade Logan" just to have a spare.
You have to redrill the existing holes, but it is very easy to adapt and works just like the original.
No one would know it is not the original - maybe not quite as comfortable, but...it works and it is cheap.
Jamie
Phantom A54 #44


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Bill,

 

This is also of interest to me. As you know in March/April 2018 my Primary manifold broke off and we installed a new AMEL supplied unit. 1 year later, preparing to continue to SOLOMON ISLANDS I had corrosion again on the same location and the French local Marine technician in VANUATU recommended to replace with a PVC modification which he made for me. Since then I have been looking into a custom made SS unit but was advised against that option.

 

So – yes very interested in an alternative for the Primary manifold as well.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

December 9, 2020 16:43:56

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 17:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Hi Bill,

I’m interested as well (SV Luna A54-121). Can they also offer an alternative for the Primary manifold? 

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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