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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Alexandre and Bill,


 Different ships, different long  splices, as the saying goes. We have used a  heavy duty stainless chain hook for over 20 years , both on a Maramu and Supermaramu,and Judy ( who looks after the foredeck for anchoring) has  yet to have a problem disengaging the hook from the chain--even on those occasions when, in the dark ( usually about 0300...), an unexpected wind shift puts us on a lee shore. Even though  women do have an   ability  unknown to man to untangle warps, sheets, flag halyards, fishing line etc ( all without cussing!) I don't think Judy has  had to reach for any special skills  when dealing with a chain hook.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece




From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 22 August 2016 15:22:48
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.
 
Usually when using an anchor with line instead of chain I do not use a bridle. I take the line through the bow chock tie it directly to the cleat and add suitable chairing gear at the chock. 

If for some reason I need a bridle, I attach it to the anchor line with a rolling hitch. That's also  the way I attach my bridle to a chain rode. I have had too may bad experiences with chain hooks and a proper rolling hitch has never let me down. 

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Narragansett Bay, RI

On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:34, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning,

I know this is not really an Amel question, but it is for my Amel.

For those who have used a 2nd anchors with a “rope” (not chain): how do you do connect the anchor rope to a bridle or snubber.
What type of knot or setting would you make.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins 4236 Anodes

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Peter,

I can not speak specifically to your engine, but not every engine was designed with anodes.   Some freshwater cooled Volvos, for example, don't use them. 

If a search of the owners manual and shop manual turn up no references to anodes, you might not have them. 

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Narragansett Bay, RI 

On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:25, Peter Buckley carhartt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi to all,

I have a question about the anode on my Mango’s Perkins 4236 engine. There doesn’t  seem to be one on the engine or any piping for the engine cooling system.
There are two anodes on the prop shaft as well as the rudder ones. Is this something that wasn’t required? 
I have had a look in the files and can find no reference.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Regards
Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Alexandre,

We have 2 bow anchors; the second one is set up exactly as Ben Driver points out.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 22 Aug 2016, at 17:12, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Alex,
I don't believe you need to add a snubber to a rope.  The snubber adds elasticity to the  non-elastic chain.  The nylon rope is inherently elastic.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 22, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning,

I know this is not really an Amel question, but it is for my Amel.

For those who have used a 2nd anchors with a “rope” (not chain): how do you do connect the anchor rope to a bridle or snubber.
What type of knot or setting would you make.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Usually when using an anchor with line instead of chain I do not use a bridle. I take the line through the bow chock tie it directly to the cleat and add suitable chairing gear at the chock. 

If for some reason I need a bridle, I attach it to the anchor line with a rolling hitch. That's also  the way I attach my bridle to a chain rode. I have had too may bad experiences with chain hooks and a proper rolling hitch has never let me down. 

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Narragansett Bay, RI

On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:34, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning,

I know this is not really an Amel question, but it is for my Amel.

For those who have used a 2nd anchors with a “rope” (not chain): how do you do connect the anchor rope to a bridle or snubber.
What type of knot or setting would you make.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Hi Alex,
I don't believe you need to add a snubber to a rope.  The snubber adds elasticity to the  non-elastic chain.  The nylon rope is inherently elastic.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 22, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning,

I know this is not really an Amel question, but it is for my Amel.

For those who have used a 2nd anchors with a “rope” (not chain): how do you do connect the anchor rope to a bridle or snubber.
What type of knot or setting would you make.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Fire extinguishers for Amel 54

ya_fohi
 

Hi,
I need to replace all fire extinguishers on an Amel 54, located in the southern Caribbean. Would anyone know where I can get the right size replacements that will fit the existing brackets?
Thanks
Paul
Ya Fohi  - Amel 54 #98



[Amel Yacht Owners] Bridle on snubber attached on 2nd anchor rope.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning,

I know this is not really an Amel question, but it is for my Amel.

For those who have used a 2nd anchors with a “rope” (not chain): how do you do connect the anchor rope to a bridle or snubber.
What type of knot or setting would you make.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Perkins 4236 Anodes

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi to all,

I have a question about the anode on my Mango’s Perkins 4236 engine. There doesn’t  seem to be one on the engine or any piping for the engine cooling system.
There are two anodes on the prop shaft as well as the rudder ones. Is this something that wasn’t required? 
I have had a look in the files and can find no reference.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Regards
Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

tfortner1975
 

Hello Pat and Bill,

Could you give the info regarding paint / wax you used for the rub rail? 

Cheers


On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:07 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pat,

That is a great way to do the job!

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Aug 22, 2016 6:27 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mike, When I painted my rub rail I did not remove it , I just lifted the edge and slid a piece of probably 1/4" line under it to hold it up and out of the way . After painting ,just pulled the line out, very simple.
Pat SM #123



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 5:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

 
We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.
Mike Ondra
S/V Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD
 
 


Re: diesel in gibraltar

Gary Wells
 

We just left there and I had not heard about contamination issues. I want to day the price was around €0,80 per litre while across at La Linea it was €1,40 ish.
Be prepared for a pretty long line up if you are coming dockside. It is a very busy fuel dock.

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Fiumicino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi to all,

I have a question about the anode on my Mango’s Perkins 4236 engine. There doesn’t  seem to be one on the engine or any piping for the engine cooling system.
There are two anodes on the prop shaft as well as the rudder ones. Is this something that wasn’t required? 
I have had a look in the files and can find no reference.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Regards
Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 07:05:49 -0500
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: SV: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

 

Martin,

My experience is the same as others reporting in this thread.

One more thing...since we were crossing the Atlantic, we wanted to also fill Jerry cans. The attendant told me that some British authorities would have a problem with that. He told me that I could fill them if they were on the boat, rather than filling them on the dock. There was a very small assortment of food, booze and drink at the fuel station. Our very last GB Pounds were spent on some things there since we were headed west.

There is so much fuel pumped at the Gibraltar fuel dock, I have a difficult time believing that any was contaminated.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Aug 22, 2016 6:13 AM, "Martin Komischke luvkante@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ann-Sofie,


Thank you so much for this perfect guidance. Now I know what to do and can act accordingly. Extremly helpful!

In fact it could really happen that I come by and say hello in Portimao! I want to be in Lagos on Sept 24th. 

Martin

 










Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

That is a great way to do the job!

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Aug 22, 2016 6:27 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mike, When I painted my rub rail I did not remove it , I just lifted the edge and slid a piece of probably 1/4" line under it to hold it up and out of the way . After painting ,just pulled the line out, very simple.
Pat SM #123



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 5:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

 
We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.
Mike Ondra
S/V Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: diesel in gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Martin,

My experience is the same as others reporting in this thread.

One more thing...since we were crossing the Atlantic, we wanted to also fill Jerry cans. The attendant told me that some British authorities would have a problem with that. He told me that I could fill them if they were on the boat, rather than filling them on the dock. There was a very small assortment of food, booze and drink at the fuel station. Our very last GB Pounds were spent on some things there since we were headed west.

There is so much fuel pumped at the Gibraltar fuel dock, I have a difficult time believing that any was contaminated.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Aug 22, 2016 6:13 AM, "Martin Komischke luvkante@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ann-Sofie,


Thank you so much for this perfect guidance. Now I know what to do and can act accordingly. Extremly helpful!

In fact it could really happen that I come by and say hello in Portimao! I want to be in Lagos on Sept 24th. 

Martin

 










Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike, When I painted my rub rail I did not remove it , I just lifted the edge and slid a piece of probably 1/4" line under it to hold it up and out of the way . After painting ,just pulled the line out, very simple.
Pat SM #123



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 5:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

 
We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.
Mike Ondra
S/V Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: Diesel in Gibraltar

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

We filled up at Gibraltar on December 28th.  No issues.  Cheap diesel at nearly half price and cheap dinghy gasoline.   Eight months later, we are still using the Gibraltar dinghy gasoline, and the engine starts at the first pull.

On the North Mole (immediately south of the airport) there are three fueling stations; we passed two and went to the easternmost, largely because of the friendly attendant.  Friendly is good.

Also, Gibraltar does not require the vessel/passengers to check-in if one is only going to the fuel docks.  However, one must genuinely confine oneself to the fuel dock.  We did spend several days in Gib, but each day walking across from the Spanish side.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K 350
At anchor, Cala di Volpe (Costa Smeralda)

---In amelyachtowners@..., <luvkante@...> wrote :

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We have bought diesel in Gibraltar 6 times, have never had any problem with dirty diesel. They have a very high  rotation of diesel with all super/mega/giga yachts filling up their tanks there.

BUT if you want to fill up your jerry cans, they charge you a higher, taxed, price for those liters. That is thanks to the Spanish which came to Gibraltar, filled their jerry cans and then Went back to Spain and sold it.

 

Now is a very busy time i Gibraltar so I highly recommend to make a reservation. In Marina Bay/Ocean Village (Same marina with two names, most confusing) they will charge you 28 GBP + electricity and Water/night. They do have a WiFi but it isn’t very good. Better to take an afternoon bear/drink at the boardwalk just above the marina.

 

I can also recomend you to look for the small indian supermarket and buy Spices. Very good quality and nice prices. Contact me if you will have directions.

 

There is also two supermarkets. Eroski on the other side of the Airport and Morrison down at Queensbay Marina. Eroski has a very good sortiment and are cheaper than Morrison that has, almost, all groceries flewn in from UK.

Eroski can transport your shopping to the boat, but check with the information desk befor you do the shopping, sometimes theire transport are fully booked, but there is always a solution.

Many of the liquer shops also has a free transport down to the boat. But my recommendation is to compare prices between supermarkets and special shops befor ordering. They do differ. Most of the time it is cheaper to buy at the supermarket.

 

I do wish you a pleasant stay i Gibraltar. One of our favourite spots.

 

Oh, and if you stop in Portimao, please come by and say hi. We are at anchore just inside the piers.

 

Regards

Annsofie

S/Y Lady Annila

SM232, 1998

 

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Ämne: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

 

 

I can't tell you the quality yet... But I would expect the fuel docks to be busy (which is good!).

I called GibOil (+350 200 48232) just half and hour ago for the price:

Up to 100l: 52p
Up to 500l: 46p
Over 500l: 39p

The price seems a little flexible too.

I've not called the other dock yet (I think there is two).

Cheers,
James.

SeaBean SM344
Queensway Quay Marina
Gibraltar, but wind willing in the Canary Islands soon.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA