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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)

CW Bill Rouse
 

Porter, 

According to Frigoboat, the pump selected should move at least 6 liters/min. A 24-volt pump rated at 12 liters/min. running half speed on 12 volts will pump about 6 liters/min.

I am not the electrical expert that Dean Gillis is, but I will try to answer your question. In this schematic, the relay has a 12-volt coil that activates an internal switch. The switch could switch either 12 volts or 24 volts. In the schematic, you will note that only the positive is switched. Dean, feel free to edit or correct.

That relay in the schematic is a very ordinary "Bosch style" normally open 4 pin relay which uses 2 pins (85 & 86) to activate the coil, meaning when 12 volt positive is connected to 85 and 12 volt negative is connected to 86, a switch is closed between 2 pins (30 & 87). There are 2 types of 4 pin relay available; normally open or normally closed. A normally open relay will switch power ON for a circuit when the coil is activated. A normally closed relay will switch power OFF for a circuit when the coil is activated. You want a normally open relay for this project. To further confuse, there are 5 pin relays which allow either normally open or normally closed depending on whether you use 87 (normally open) or the fifth pin 87a (normally closed).

This is a package of 6 4-pin relays with sockets and wire: https://www.amazon.com/PACK-Pin-SPST-Relay-Harness/dp/B07X1R18QS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Relay+4+Pin&qid=1594563018&s=automotive&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVzkxWjQ5OTBBMjcyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjYyMDMxMlA0MU85WDRTVURSNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjEwNTc4OUdOQVJGUVQzVDdPJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:27 PM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill in your schematic,
The relays are 12VDC control and 24VDC load circuit, easy to put a 2-3 amp fuse on the load circuit.
I've searched for this relay and find it quite difficult to find the definitive solution.  Commonly the reverse is found.
I’d like to build a control board for the pumps.
Might you have a source, or nomenclature that would reveal this hidden gem on the web for me?

A second question:  running a 24v pump at 12v, surely spares the pump, but will it affect the pump volume, as the 1.5+ GPH is quite important, yes?

Always appreciated,

Porter
S/V IBIS A54-152

On Jul 3, 2020, at 3:30 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Jamie,

I wish I was on your 54 with you because I have a burning question about all of this. and I have a recommendation for you.

My burning question:
If you see the schematic in my previous post in this thread, you will notice the schematic from a Frigoboat manual. The source of the voltage output from the E51385 blue box to the water pump originates in this schematic with each of the Danfoss Compressor Controllers at the F terminal. In fact, the two wires for each fridge unit come directly from the Danfoss to the E51385. The Frigoboat manual clearly states, regardless of the voltage of the fridge the output on the two F terminals is 12 volts. BTW, the Danfoss operates on 12 or 24 volts, but always outputs 12 volts to Terminal F. Have you checked the output voltage on each of the Danfoss on terminal F and the terminal next to it? I do not see any other way that the E51385 blue box can output 24 volts and if there is 24 volts on the Danfoss fan terminals, I suspect something is wrong with the Danfoss.

My recommendation:
Why don't you do this eliminating the E51385 and eliminate the limitation on amps on the Danfoss terminal F, and run a 24-volt pump??:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:02 PM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
OK, my "final" update on the Flojet pump and Frigoboat E51385  interface. I cannot explain it, but the interface is definitely out-putting 24 volts to the pump at all times.
Maybe my interface is malfunctioning, so I installed a solid-state relay and a DC converter to step the voltage down to 12 volts. I used a 24-volt relay in place of the E51385 pump connection and then feed the converter and pump via the live 24-volt terminal box in the engine room. The relay simply engages the pump when the compressors call for it.

A bit more complicated than I would like but the pump runs perfectly now and obviously I no longer get the pump overload signals at the interface. The higher capacity pump may draw more power, but it really cools down the 3 refrigerator units fast.

My next task is to get the brushless motor working to replace the Flojet motor. I will drive it directly via the 24-volt terminal block and eliminate the DC converter.

Until then I am "over and out" regarding this perplexing issue with the E51385. I really appreciate all the suggestions and assistance, but will report once I have the brushless motor controller operational. That will be the gold standard.

Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44
Re: Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

karkauai
 

Along the same lines, I had a sink faucet fail last year, and had no way to shut water off to one faucet.  On my list is to put a shutoff valve on every faucet.  I didn't know there was a shutoff valve for the washer.  Gotta find that.

Kent
Sm243
Kristy

On Jul 11, 2020 1:23 PM, Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:
Thank you Bill,

I found the valve behind the cleaning stuff. I did not expect it on this side,but must admid that I failed to consult the manual.

Anyway, the problem is solved (also with the water intake valve at the washing machine side).

I am very happyt to be on my boat again after so many months of lock down. The Greek authorities made a great leap foreward with their digital system. There are also some very reliable Greek websites for updates on the Covid-19-situation in Greece, like this one:
https://www.atoz-guides.com/coronavirus-in-greece-update/

Thanks again and stay healthy!

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA

now at anchor near Menidion Greece

Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Hi Scott,
Yes, it does seem a bit counter-intuitive that warmish water is more efficient than cold water. Here is a paraphrase from my system's technical manual that may help in understanding it.

The reason (that 90F sea water is optimum) is that in the refrigeration cycle, after the high pressure liquid refrigerant has passed through the expansion valve and gotten cold by converting to a gas, then passed through the cooling coil and taken on the heat of the refrigerated area and then gone back through the compressor, it is about 140F and only needs to be cooled to about 120F to condense back to liquid and repeat the cycle. Thus 80-90F cooling water is all that's needed. In colder water the liquid refrigerant is too cold and is stored in the condenser and the system operates with a much lower suction pressure as the pressure difference across the expansion valve is reduced. This will substantially decrease the capacity of the system and increase the running time.

That same manual offers corrective solutions for operating in cold open ocean water by using a gate valve or a water by-pass to restrict the flow of too cold water and get the drier and receiver temperature up to about 95F.

From just an everyday non-technical vantage point, consider that the marine market is absolutely insignificant to the global refrigeration market (no special refrigerants, etc. - there is no such thing as "marine refrigeration" outside of the marketing department). Nobody has cold water cooling - Eskimos don't need it! Household refrigerator cooling coils have ambient temps in the 70's or 80's or more (room temp). Apartments and buildings have water source cooling tower ambient temps in the 80's and 90's (or 100's here in Florida) and, therefore, cooling water temps are the same. Those systems are, in fact, at maximum efficiency because they are providing cooling at the condensing temperature of the refrigerant - 80 to 90 ish, depending on the refrigerant.

And, oh by the way, I just Googled Windy.com, clicked on the water temperature, and from 20 S to 20 N, including the entire Caribbean, the water is in the 80's. At my dock in Florida it's 92F. My A/C and refrigerator love it! As do all those cruisers who used to be there before Covid.

I would assert that no marine refrigeration system is designed to operate in extra-tropical ocean cold water temperatures - unless it has a gate valve or by-pass for cold water use. That pump life has been seen to be inversely correlated to ambient temperature is perfectly understandable. It's not the cold cooling water, it's the cool ambient temperature. The cold cooling water is actually increasing the running time and fighting against the cool ambient temperature that is decreasing the running time. 

It would be fun to experiment with a system with a gate valve or by-pass valve in a cold place. Run the system with 55 degree water for a few days and log the run times.  Then throttle down the valve to get 95 degree water for a few days and log that. Then check Oliver's fancy logging system and see what it shows. Dollars to donuts the warm water will see less pump usage.

Fun topic for a locked down Covid evening, thanks for initiating the discussion,
Cheers, Craig
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Mohammed,

Thank you for the info, Unfortunately I will not be going to the US for some time. My thoughts are that we are going to be here for some time. I really like the hardtop on Caduceus, I will look into this, will need a stainless steel welder, a fibre glass moulder and a canvas/sail maker. Could be a challenge here in Le Marin! By that I mean that getting work done is a challenge and slow, took 3 months to get 4 brackets made for my new lift up windscreens, The early 54's only had one hydraulic lift arm on each lift up screens at 300N, I am changing to two hydraulic lift arms per screen as per your 54 at 170N each.
If I was still in Greece I would be able to find these workers, Preveza has a young chap, very good at stainless work.

The hardtop on Ruedi and Sabina's Amel 54 might be insulated. Contact Ruedi and he will give you all the info. It looks very well made. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 5:13:42 PM EDT, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:


Hi Barry;

 

Caduceus’ hard top was made in Norfolk West Virginia.

 

What did you think of the Emek installation? Do you know if it was insulated and how it has performed so far?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Scott,

 

Thank you for the photo.

I am going to see them on Wednesday when everything reopens here after this holiday weekend. I do hope that your price is not correct.

My current Bimini is an all cover, 5 bow frame with Sunbrella, like the hardtop made for Caduceus Amel 54. #56.

  

Mohammad: Thank you for the photos. Do you know where Caduceus hardtop was made? The Emek Marine link is the hardtop on Wasabi Amel54. I think #50? Ruedi and Sabina showed me over this with the complete coverings.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

"SV Lady Penelope II"

Amel 54. #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique

 

 

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 4:28:59 PM EDT, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <itsfun1@...> wrote:

 

 

I wonder if they would do a volume discount?

Bill is this an Amel School possibility?

Cheers 

Courtney 

svTrippin

54 #101

Brunswick 



On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

This one was done by Manu at Alize Composites in Le Marin.

I think he said 25-30k euros.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Barry;

 

Caduceus’ hard top was made in Norfolk West Virginia.

 

What did you think of the Emek installation? Do you know if it was insulated and how it has performed so far?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Scott,

 

Thank you for the photo.

I am going to see them on Wednesday when everything reopens here after this holiday weekend. I do hope that your price is not correct.

My current Bimini is an all cover, 5 bow frame with Sunbrella, like the hardtop made for Caduceus Amel 54. #56.

  

Mohammad: Thank you for the photos. Do you know where Caduceus hardtop was made? The Emek Marine link is the hardtop on Wasabi Amel54. I think #50? Ruedi and Sabina showed me over this with the complete coverings.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

"SV Lady Penelope II"

Amel 54. #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique

 

 

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 4:28:59 PM EDT, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <itsfun1@...> wrote:

 

 

I wonder if they would do a volume discount?

Bill is this an Amel School possibility?

Cheers 

Courtney 

svTrippin

54 #101

Brunswick 



On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

This one was done by Manu at Alize Composites in Le Marin.

I think he said 25-30k euros.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

<P1070516.JPG>
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Scott,

Thank you for the photo.
I am going to see them on Wednesday when everything reopens here after this holiday weekend. I do hope that your price is not correct.
My current Bimini is an all cover, 5 bow frame with Sunbrella, like the hardtop made for Caduceus Amel 54. #56.
  
Mohammad: Thank you for the photos. Do you know where Caduceus hardtop was made? The Emek Marine link is the hardtop on Wasabi Amel54. I think #50? Ruedi and Sabina showed me over this with the complete coverings.

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique


On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 4:28:59 PM EDT, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <itsfun1@...> wrote:


I wonder if they would do a volume discount?
Bill is this an Amel School possibility?
Cheers 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Brunswick 


On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

This one was done by Manu at Alize Composites in Le Marin.

I think he said 25-30k euros.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
<P1070516.JPG>
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Courtney Gorman
 

I wonder if they would do a volume discount?
Bill is this an Amel School possibility?
Cheers 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Brunswick 


On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

This one was done by Manu at Alize Composites in Le Marin.

I think he said 25-30k euros.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
<P1070516.JPG>
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

This one was done by Manu at Alize Composites in Le Marin.

I think he said 25-30k euros.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)

Scott SV Tengah
 

HI Craig,

I'm a little surprised that you're stating that our water cooled Danfoss refrigeration systems perform optimally with water temps above that which we experience in the tropics. That begs the question -  why didn't they design it for maximum efficiency given a water temperature that you would actually experience in the ocean?

My primary concern is pump life, which is directly related to pump duty cycle. Oliver logs his pump duty cycle (fancy computerized system) and noted that it went from 15% in colder waters to about 75% duty cycle when he got to the Caribbean. 

I surmise the hot ambient air temps around the cooling box contribute to that, but for the purposes of comparing pump life for those in warm climates vs. pump life for those in cool climates, pump life seems to be inversely correlated with temperature. Those reporting super long pump lives seem to be in colder areas.

While I don't have Oliver's fancy logging system, I can attest that our refrigeration system uses considerably more power per day and our pumps lasted for much less time when comparing our experiences in the Caribbean vs. the Med. That implies to me that, when all is considered, colder temps mean the system is running less often.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

Willem Kroes
 

Thank you Bill,

I found the valve behind the cleaning stuff. I did not expect it on this side,but must admid that I failed to consult the manual.

Anyway, the problem is solved (also with the water intake valve at the washing machine side).

I am very happyt to be on my boat again after so many months of lock down. The Greek authorities made a great leap foreward with their digital system. There are also some very reliable Greek websites for updates on the Covid-19-situation in Greece, like this one:
https://www.atoz-guides.com/coronavirus-in-greece-update/

Thanks again and stay healthy!

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA

now at anchor near Menidion Greece
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Brent Cameron
 

The nicest one I’ve seen is on the Amel 54 Soleil Bleu.  It looks like it could have come out of La Rochelle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT7x0SjM648

Brent

On Jul 11, 2020, 11:11 AM -0400, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>, wrote:

Thanks Barry;

 

I got permission from the previous owner of Caduceus A54 #56 to share the pictures of his hardtop. The following is the link to the pictures.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fr8okwqm43p6hsb/AADBRqNQw4VXvNSKDCVNT4afa?dl=0

 

Martin circumnavigated with this design and was very happy with it. I now see that Emek Marine has also installed one on a 54 in Turkey. Here’s the link:

 

https://www.facebook.com/emekmarin/posts/amel-54-hardtop-custom-designed-and-made-out-of-composite-lamination-amelyachts-/2003483773066512/

 

The hardtop makes sense in a lot of ways. As shown in the new Amel designs. I’m very interested in finding out your daily average Amp Hour output from your solar panels on your bimini top. This is where we would like to install ours and avoid an arch and the associated weight and interference with the sleek design, on the transom.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:55 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Mohammad,

2 more photos of the raised boom line. My goal was to get it as high as possible, my Bimini bows are not bent much in the middle.

Best

Barry😀⛵️<image001.jpg><image002.jpg>



On Jul 11, 2020, at 08:08, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

Thanks. As far as I can see the main thing was to move the pulley block, but I’m not on the boat now so can’t really compare.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2020 00:55
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Paul,

I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 




On Jul 10, 2020, at 03:47, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

This is something I’ve been interested in too. What changes did you make to the boom line? Would you have a photo?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2020 00:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hello Amel 54 owners,

I have seen and been onboard some Amel 54's with custom Hardtops. Most are a little low in height.
We are in Martinique since March and will probably be here for some time as the Caribbean is not looking to be opening up for sailing soon.
A good time to undertake some projects. 
Do any Amel 54 owners have any recommendations for getting a custom made hardtop manufactured in the Caribbean? I would like to explore this possibility, I currently have had made a 5 bow Bimini with 6ft clearance under. I am looking for someone in the Caribbean who has made a Hardtop for a 54 or If I could find someone who does good fibre glass. I think I might be able to get a hardtop with 6ft clearance under as I have already made the changes to the boom line which had previously limited the height of hardtops and a bimini.
Would appreciate any advise from members who have any info for this project.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sante Anne anchorage Martinique 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Barry;

 

I got permission from the previous owner of Caduceus A54 #56 to share the pictures of his hardtop. The following is the link to the pictures.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fr8okwqm43p6hsb/AADBRqNQw4VXvNSKDCVNT4afa?dl=0

 

Martin circumnavigated with this design and was very happy with it. I now see that Emek Marine has also installed one on a 54 in Turkey. Here’s the link:

 

https://www.facebook.com/emekmarin/posts/amel-54-hardtop-custom-designed-and-made-out-of-composite-lamination-amelyachts-/2003483773066512/

 

The hardtop makes sense in a lot of ways. As shown in the new Amel designs. I’m very interested in finding out your daily average Amp Hour output from your solar panels on your bimini top. This is where we would like to install ours and avoid an arch and the associated weight and interference with the sleek design, on the transom.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 7:55 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Mohammad,

2 more photos of the raised boom line. My goal was to get it as high as possible, my Bimini bows are not bent much in the middle.

Best

Barry😀⛵️



On Jul 11, 2020, at 08:08, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

Thanks. As far as I can see the main thing was to move the pulley block, but I’m not on the boat now so can’t really compare.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2020 00:55
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Paul,

I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 




On Jul 10, 2020, at 03:47, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

This is something I’ve been interested in too. What changes did you make to the boom line? Would you have a photo?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2020 00:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hello Amel 54 owners,

I have seen and been onboard some Amel 54's with custom Hardtops. Most are a little low in height.
We are in Martinique since March and will probably be here for some time as the Caribbean is not looking to be opening up for sailing soon.
A good time to undertake some projects. 
Do any Amel 54 owners have any recommendations for getting a custom made hardtop manufactured in the Caribbean? I would like to explore this possibility, I currently have had made a 5 bow Bimini with 6ft clearance under. I am looking for someone in the Caribbean who has made a Hardtop for a 54 or If I could find someone who does good fibre glass. I think I might be able to get a hardtop with 6ft clearance under as I have already made the changes to the boom line which had previously limited the height of hardtops and a bimini.
Would appreciate any advise from members who have any info for this project.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sante Anne anchorage Martinique 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Mohammad,
2 more photos of the raised boom line. My goal was to get it as high as possible, my Bimini bows are not bent much in the middle.
Best
Barry😀⛵️


On Jul 11, 2020, at 08:08, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

Thanks. As far as I can see the main thing was to move the pulley block, but I’m not on the boat now so can’t really compare.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2020 00:55
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Paul,

I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 



On Jul 10, 2020, at 03:47, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

This is something I’ve been interested in too. What changes did you make to the boom line? Would you have a photo?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2020 00:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hello Amel 54 owners,

I have seen and been onboard some Amel 54's with custom Hardtops. Most are a little low in height.
We are in Martinique since March and will probably be here for some time as the Caribbean is not looking to be opening up for sailing soon.
A good time to undertake some projects. 
Do any Amel 54 owners have any recommendations for getting a custom made hardtop manufactured in the Caribbean? I would like to explore this possibility, I currently have had made a 5 bow Bimini with 6ft clearance under. I am looking for someone in the Caribbean who has made a Hardtop for a 54 or If I could find someone who does good fibre glass. I think I might be able to get a hardtop with 6ft clearance under as I have already made the changes to the boom line which had previously limited the height of hardtops and a bimini.
Would appreciate any advise from members who have any info for this project.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sante Anne anchorage Martinique 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Cutting the main instrument display acrylic panel

Craig Briggs
 

Thanks, Billy - that was my guess and I see the 55 has that wide acrylic instrument pod. I should think you'll do fine with the oscillating blade. 
Good luck with it.
Hope you didn't get too much excitement with Tropical Cyclone "Fay" passing through your area yesterday.
Craig
Re: Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

CW Bill Rouse
 

Later model SM2ks had the following (photo from the Users Manual):
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 7:27 AM Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:
Hi Elja,

Thank you for your fast reaction. I looked, but there is nothing under the gasoven or under the adjecent floor board. May be the Amel yard changed the piping infrastructure on later SM's.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA

now underway to Menidion

Re: Cutting the main instrument display acrylic panel

Billy Newport
 

Coder, Amel 55#56. Located in Liberty Landing, Jersey City, NJ, USA
Re: Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Elja,

Thank you for your fast reaction. I looked, but there is nothing under the gasoven or under the adjecent floor board. May be the Amel yard changed the piping infrastructure on later SM's.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA

now underway to Menidion
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Barry,

 

Thanks. As far as I can see the main thing was to move the pulley block, but I’m not on the boat now so can’t really compare.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2020 00:55
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Paul,

I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line.

 

Very Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 



On Jul 10, 2020, at 03:47, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Barry,

 

This is something I’ve been interested in too. What changes did you make to the boom line? Would you have a photo?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2020 00:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hello Amel 54 owners,

I have seen and been onboard some Amel 54's with custom Hardtops. Most are a little low in height.
We are in Martinique since March and will probably be here for some time as the Caribbean is not looking to be opening up for sailing soon.
A good time to undertake some projects. 
Do any Amel 54 owners have any recommendations for getting a custom made hardtop manufactured in the Caribbean? I would like to explore this possibility, I currently have had made a 5 bow Bimini with 6ft clearance under. I am looking for someone in the Caribbean who has made a Hardtop for a 54 or If I could find someone who does good fibre glass. I think I might be able to get a hardtop with 6ft clearance under as I have already made the changes to the boom line which had previously limited the height of hardtops and a bimini.
Would appreciate any advise from members who have any info for this project.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sante Anne anchorage Martinique 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
Re: Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Wilhelm ,
i think you find the valve for the wasching maschien under the last

under the last floor board in the kitchen under the gasoven

Best Elja SM Balu 222
On the way to Levkas

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Is there a valve for the water intake for the washing machine?

Willem Kroes
 

Hello dear Amelians,

Finaly on board again of my SM in Greece,

I want to start sailing today, but there appeared a small problem.
 
The inlet valve of the washing machine will not close for 100%.  So I looked for a valve in the water intake line. I can't find it. Is there a valve (like the one for the dish washer; this one is easy to see)?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA

Preveza, Greece
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