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Re: The maintenance fuel bladders

Courtney Gorman
 

14 days and 10 Jerry Cans should be more than plenty but I agree bladder should be fine.  If you’re really concerned fill it with 10 gallons and move shake and squish vigorously then dump you should be good to go 
Cheers 
Safe travels 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101


On Jan 24, 2021, at 1:50 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

I’d have to guess cleaning would not be necessary. The problems emanate from moist air getting in the tank. I imagine your bladder isn’t vented, and flattens as it empties? If so, there isn’t a daily air exchange, so moisture should not condense inside, so nothing to feed the creepy crawlies that grow in fuel.
My 2¢....
~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino, A50#27, Speed of Life

On Jan 23, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Many/most of us have a COVID related "change of plans" story, but ours included 28 days nonstop Panama to Nuku Hiva, 8 days in Nuku, then 14 days Nuku to Hawaii. We had been Caribbean based our first 9 years of cruising so the distances in the Pacific intimidated us enough to buy a 100 liter fuel bladder to supplement our 10 jerry cans. Of course we used about 20 pct of all this fuel - the first fuel used being from the bladder so I could get it off the cabin top behind the mizzen. That was 8 months ago. I got all the fuel out of it (I hope) and stored it nicely folded back in it's nifty plastic bag. I did nothing to clean it as I had no idea how to and other priorities emerged like finding a place which would take us.

I'm very cautious about fuel; straining everything first, Biobor, changing filters neurotically, etc.) I've read accounts on this site regarding various fuel goblins and problems of that nature and don't want these issues on L'ORIENT. Should I be worried about using this bladder for my return trip to FP from Hawaii (14 days); can/should it be cleaned ? If so, how ? I just have no experience using this a second time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: novice problem

JOSE PRIETO
 

Last year I received this sketch from Amel SAV.

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Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain


Re: Foredeck alarm

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks to all for your advice, I have asked my boat sitter to trip them.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Gillies
Sent: 23 January 2021 21:49
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Foredeck alarm

 

Paul,
This happened to me during my first winter storage. It wasn't flat batteries, and I couldn't put my finger on exactly what caused it. The boatyard reported some electrical storm activity around the time, so that could be related.

Anyway, now I always turn off the breakers when storing the boat and it hasn't happened again! 🤔

Dean
SV Stella A54-154


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Super Maramu wall lamp shades

VICTOR MOLERO
 

We refit ours. Easy and cheap. They look good.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy


Re: The maintenance fuel bladders

Matt Salatino
 

I’d have to guess cleaning would not be necessary. The problems emanate from moist air getting in the tank. I imagine your bladder isn’t vented, and flattens as it empties? If so, there isn’t a daily air exchange, so moisture should not condense inside, so nothing to feed the creepy crawlies that grow in fuel.
My 2¢....
~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino, A50#27, Speed of Life

On Jan 23, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Many/most of us have a COVID related "change of plans" story, but ours included 28 days nonstop Panama to Nuku Hiva, 8 days in Nuku, then 14 days Nuku to Hawaii. We had been Caribbean based our first 9 years of cruising so the distances in the Pacific intimidated us enough to buy a 100 liter fuel bladder to supplement our 10 jerry cans. Of course we used about 20 pct of all this fuel - the first fuel used being from the bladder so I could get it off the cabin top behind the mizzen. That was 8 months ago. I got all the fuel out of it (I hope) and stored it nicely folded back in it's nifty plastic bag. I did nothing to clean it as I had no idea how to and other priorities emerged like finding a place which would take us.

I'm very cautious about fuel; straining everything first, Biobor, changing filters neurotically, etc.) I've read accounts on this site regarding various fuel goblins and problems of that nature and don't want these issues on L'ORIENT. Should I be worried about using this bladder for my return trip to FP from Hawaii (14 days); can/should it be cleaned ? If so, how ? I just have no experience using this a second time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


The maintenance fuel bladders

Thomas Kleman
 

Many/most of us have a COVID related "change of plans" story, but ours included 28 days nonstop Panama to Nuku Hiva, 8 days in Nuku, then 14 days Nuku to Hawaii. We had been Caribbean based our first 9 years of cruising so the distances in the Pacific intimidated us enough to buy a 100 liter fuel bladder to supplement our 10 jerry cans. Of course we used about 20 pct of all this fuel - the first fuel used being from the bladder so I could get it off the cabin top behind the mizzen. That was 8 months ago. I got all the fuel out of it (I hope) and stored it nicely folded back in it's nifty plastic bag. I did nothing to clean it as I had no idea how to and other priorities emerged like finding a place which would take us.

I'm very cautious about fuel; straining everything first, Biobor, changing filters neurotically, etc.) I've read accounts on this site regarding various fuel goblins and problems of that nature and don't want these issues on L'ORIENT. Should I be worried about using this bladder for my return trip to FP from Hawaii (14 days); can/should it be cleaned ? If so, how ? I just have no experience using this a second time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Karen Smith
 

Jérémy,

I'll second Bill R.'s opinion, that TF Marine pump is top notch. Very expensive, and lasts forever.

Replacing the original pump is usually done because fo the difficulty in parts sourcing. Diaphragm pumps are usually cheaper than other types of similar capacity. I have had poor luck with them--but have not used every brand by any means.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: Foredeck alarm

Dean Gillies
 

Paul,
This happened to me during my first winter storage. It wasn't flat batteries, and I couldn't put my finger on exactly what caused it. The boatyard reported some electrical storm activity around the time, so that could be related.

Anyway, now I always turn off the breakers when storing the boat and it hasn't happened again! 🤔

Dean
SV Stella A54-154


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Jim Anderson
 

Hi Jeremy, I replaced the fresh water pump on SM384 with this Sure-Flow pump 9 years ago and it has performed flawlessly. It automatically varies its speed depending on demand, and pumps up to 5 gallons/minute and 55 psi. It is also quieter than the original one, and you can eliminate the hard-to-adjust spring/screw pressure switch. I left the factory accumulator tank in place but it is also not necessary. I bought 2, since it was in-proven but the spare is still sitting in a locker. Jim SM384 Sirena Azul Seattle


Re: novice problem

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Matti. See the photos attached. The clamping system mirrors Amels main mast stay attachments. It is important to put the tibe over the mizzen boom for head room. There is no need at all to fix it to the mast. My bimini top  is secured by zips to the rail. If I remove the rear curtains I can zip on a mizzen boom tent. The sustem has served us well. Any of the side curtains can be rolled up or removed quickly and easily. The top extension s also quick and easy to remove if so desired. Then you can fold away the whole top Amel style and have it as open as ypu wish. So the system suits us well. We often sail with the windward curtain down and one or both the rear leaving air open to leeward. Mix and match according to conditions. Fully closed, snug as you could wish for.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 23 January 2021 at 19:25 Matti Lohikoski <matti.lohikoski@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,
I would appreciate a lot for pictures that I could share with Nacho.
So much better when a proven structure can be used.
Best regards
Matti
Borador #398

 

On 22. Jan 2021, at 18.25, Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123@...> wrote:

 
Hi Matti, 

We live in Seattle, and sail year round.  Having the full enclosure is a huge improvement.  I had the U shaped contraption connected to the deck mentioned and I removed it.  I instead took the first bow from the dodger and repurposed it behind the mizzen, secured with a tab to the mizzen boom bolt, and then to the shrouds as in other pictures attached.  It is vastly superior.  This also lets you reposition the other bows to give more headroom, and the "eyebrows" that zipper open.

I can run down to the boat this afternoon if you would like some pictures.  I did research with the Amel group to come up with what I consider the best cold weather solution.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Friday, January 22, 2021, 05:46:53 AM PST, Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...> wrote:


Hi Matti,
Your Nacho clearly is not familiar with Amels - by all means, fasten the bimini frame to the shrouds and do not clutter it with vertical members going to the deck. 
Look at the connection of your balooner "wishbone" stabilizing bar on the main mast shrouds for a model of how to do this. (Commercial clamps are also available.)

If you search the photos section for "Sangaris" you will find an album of how mine is done, with only four connections to the mizzen stays. (Or just click this link:  Sangaris Bimini.)
No connection needed to the Mizzen. Bullet-proof and clean.

I've done mine in "T"-Top style as I did not want full enclosure but (hopefully) Nacho can easily close yours in.  

Btw, using the same 25mm tube as the rails will give you plenty of strength plus a complimentary appearance.
-- good luck with your project.
Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


 


 


Re: Owner's Manual Onan MDKDP 6,5

Jarek Zemlo
 



thanks this is the one needed.

Best regards
Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: Owner's Manual Onan MDKDP 6,5

Jarek Zemlo
 

Bill,

thank you this is what I need!
Best regards

Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: Foredeck alarm

Courtney Gorman
 

Definitely Boxtron unit have them press the breakers for the head sail then stay sail one will stop the beeping I now leave them both off while away from the boat
Cheers 
Courtney 
Trippin 
51 #101
St Thomas


On Jan 23, 2021, at 12:15 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Could be a low voltage alarm from a Boxtron unit. If it is, batteries need charging. Also, you should probably review your DC power management while you are away. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 10:02 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have someone looking after by boat and he has reported a beeping alarm coming from the foredeck locker. I guess its either the anchor or furler electrics. Would anyone know what it is and what needs to be done?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Owner's Manual Onan MDKDP 6,5

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Out of curiosity, is the MDKAL a predecessor or a newer version of the MDKD series?

Many thanks. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera,SM007, NZ




On 24 Jan 2021, at 05:06, Karen Smith via groups.io <karenharmonie@...> wrote:

I have also just uploaded the full service/shop manual for the Onan MDKD series. This is for the 6.5kW genset used on the older Amel SM boats.  It is one of the best laid out service manuals I have seen, lots of great troubleshooting flow charts that are very helpful.

DKD Service Manual.pdf

It has minimal coverage of the engine (you'll have to go to Kubota for that) but its coverage of the electric and control system is very valuable information to have.

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: Replacing Genoa furler rivets with screws and backing plates

Stephen Davis
 

Thanks Gary. Why did they cut the top? In my case, only the very bottom where the rivets had been needs to be removed. The rivet holes in the foil were so elongated that we just couldn’t get rivets to hold any more. It looks as if I will get a local machinist here to make the plates for me. 


Steve


Re: Foredeck alarm

 

Could be a low voltage alarm from a Boxtron unit. If it is, batteries need charging. Also, you should probably review your DC power management while you are away. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 10:02 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have someone looking after by boat and he has reported a beeping alarm coming from the foredeck locker. I guess its either the anchor or furler electrics. Would anyone know what it is and what needs to be done?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Owner's Manual Onan MDKDP 6,5

Karen Smith
 

I have also just uploaded the full service/shop manual for the Onan MDKD series. This is for the 6.5kW genset used on the older Amel SM boats.  It is one of the best laid out service manuals I have seen, lots of great troubleshooting flow charts that are very helpful.

DKD Service Manual.pdf

It has minimal coverage of the engine (you'll have to go to Kubota for that) but its coverage of the electric and control system is very valuable information to have.

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Foredeck alarm

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I have someone looking after by boat and he has reported a beeping alarm coming from the foredeck locker. I guess its either the anchor or furler electrics. Would anyone know what it is and what needs to be done?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Owner's Manual Onan MDKDP 6,5

 

Jarek,

I think this is what you need:


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:32 AM Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,

I am looking for a PDF version of owner's manual and spare part catalogue for my Onan MDKDP 6,5 Generator. I have this generator on my boat but previous owner lost the manual.

Regards
Jarek
NOA BLUE
SM 201


Re: Fresh Water Pump

 

Jérémy
That pump from TF is a very good pump.
Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 5:51 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:
Hello,

I don't have a freshwater pump in the Super Maramu I just bought (The previous owner lived in the port, the pump broke and he just took it out). So one of the first jobs I'm going to have to do on this vessel is to install a new pump!

I believe I read somewhere that Amel is now installing TF Marine HA 80 pumps with a 5L butyl tank as a replacement for a broken pump in these vessels. Does anyone have this model on board?

Hydro-A Compact Water Pressure System


What are the reasons or motivations for switching to the diaphragm pump?

What are the main complaints you have about the original pump that make you look for a different type of pump as a replacement?

Thanks for sharing your opinions!


Jérémy

Le 16/01/2021 à 18:41, Ian Townsend a écrit :
We would like to convert to a diaphragm type fresh water pump. We are looking two options right now.  Shurflo Aqua King II 4.0 gpm (55 PSI sealed switch, shutoff at 3.8 bar, ) and Seaflo Series 54 5.0 gpm (adjustable switch).

1. Is there another pump you have experience with that you would recommend?
2. Given the old FEIT/AMFA pump was 15/30, should I even consider the Aqua King with set cutoff PSI of 55?

Many thanks.

Ian
SM153
Bahamas

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