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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

Dan Carlson
 

We have started using the inverter this year. Nice to have the freedom from the generator.  

We have a Bosch washer and the peake consumption is about 2500 watts for 3 minutes at the beginning of the cycle while it is heating the water.  Not all washers are as efficient. 

We have the Victron MultiPlus Charger inverter and a 30 amp charger.  

If you have the Victron Multi's it is important to remember that when it is connected to shore power it will shift frequency to the frequency of the shore power source.  That could be a bad surprise for your washer or microwave.  Best to have a dedicated small charger for when you are on shore power and the ability to keep your Victron Multi electrically separate from shore power unless you deliberately flip a switch.  

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387, currently in Les Saintes

On Sat, May 2, 2020, 5:00 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically to catch up on laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth. 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from is normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger) there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t this of this earlier. If you hadn’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: "Bird Cage" TV Antenna

Duane Siegfri
 

Marco,

The corrosion was not visible until I dismounted the antenna.  It was two years ago, so I'm not sure about possible visible clues, but it wasn't obvious to me at the time.  If you're not getting reception though, my experience says replace the antenna.

Good luck,
Duane


Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

luvkante
 

Thank you Arno,


This might be the passerelle Type Mr as well. I am not sure.


Martin

AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Beware!!! The last time our trusty old Thompson Washer ever worked was the first time we ever used it whilst sailing in calm waters! We never did this before, but on sailing out of Ecuador for the first 4 hours of the long Pacific Ocean crossing to Hiva Oa, the seas were so flat and calm that we decided to give it a go. The wash cycle worked perfectly and so we started that particular 24-day ocean crossing with lovely clean washing, only to find that the machine would never work again!

I say this just as a warning of our experience only, it could simply be a nasty coincidence but I would never do it again. Also, I should also pass on the good news that we were amazed to discover that the little white goods retailer in the shopping complex directly over the road from the Papeete  Marina keeps just two or three Bosch washing machines which fit your SM perfectly with the correct cycles too, and which we found far superior to the older Thompsons in terms of both energy consumption and how well it washes your clothes. Warning though, it was VERY EXPENSIVE!!

Colin Streeter
EX Island Pearl II # 332

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:42 AM michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
We also have used the washing machine. Can be used with the engine alternator through the inverter. So if we have a hour or so of motoring and it's not too rough a load can be done. 
Michael Elaine  Nebo sm251


On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 8:20, CW Bill Rouse
<brouse@...> wrote:
We always ran the washer on ocean crossings with the generator. It was no problem, but look at the rotation of the washer tub on an SM2k...maybe that helped.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:09 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically when needing to catch up on the laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth: 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from its normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger), there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t think of earlier. If you haven’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hello

Good idea.

We used our washing machine on the way when we crossed the atlantic and pacific ocean. when the generator was running to charge the batteries. It has to stand firm. I put foam (hard sponge) between the machine and the wood so that the shocks are absorbed well. The V-belt broke off once in the Atlantic but that must not have had anything to do with the wave.

Heinz, Sy Quetzal, SM 2000, 292

 

Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Mark Erdos
Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Mai 2020 09:04
An: AmelYachtOwners@groups.io
Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically to catch up on laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth. 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from is normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger) there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t this of this earlier. If you hadn’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

michael winand
 

We also have used the washing machine. Can be used with the engine alternator through the inverter. So if we have a hour or so of motoring and it's not too rough a load can be done. 
Michael Elaine  Nebo sm251


On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 8:20, CW Bill Rouse
<brouse@...> wrote:
We always ran the washer on ocean crossings with the generator. It was no problem, but look at the rotation of the washer tub on an SM2k...maybe that helped.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:09 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically when needing to catch up on the laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth: 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from its normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger), there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t think of earlier. If you haven’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

We always ran the washer on ocean crossings with the generator. It was no problem, but look at the rotation of the washer tub on an SM2k...maybe that helped.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:09 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically when needing to catch up on the laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth: 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from its normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger), there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t think of earlier. If you haven’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

Mark Erdos
 

The inverter is Victron Multiplus 24/3000/70 - It is the 50amp version.

 

It easily runs the washer. On cold water washing it really doesn’t draw very much since it is just motors and pumps. Warm or hot water works well. The machines internal water heater doesn’t overload the inverter. We never use the heated dry cycle (even when on shore power). We spin dry at warp speed and let nature take care of the rest.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Cc: AmelYachtOwners@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Mark. 

We have 3000 amps on the Victron multiplus and not enough to run our washer. So thinking of adding the 5000amp victron and upgrading to lithium’s when we get back to the boat. We washing at sea. It has to be calm. Very calm. Our washer has a spin cycle that goes variably 600 to 900 rpm, any yaw and it wants out!  How many amps  is your inverter?  

 

Porter

A54-152. 

 

 



On May 2, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:



This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically to catch up on laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth. 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from is normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger) there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t this of this earlier. If you hadn’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

NICOLAS KLENE <n.klene@...>
 

Fabulous idea Bill , thank you for doing this and helping us keeping Our sanity !!👍

Le 1 mai 2020 à 17:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> a écrit :

All,

The most common suggestion that I have received regarding the ZOOM meetings is to have expert guest speakers on subjects that are of interest to most of the members. I have contacted people I know, respect, and consider experts. I am awaiting replies from experts on:
Sails
Refrigeration 
Standing Rigging
Dessalator
Lithium Solutions
I also asked Antoine RIOTON from Amel to do a presentation on the Amel 50/60
Another suggestion I had was to find an "...Insurance Adjuster, whose role it is to be the interpreter of the policy, protecting only the insurance company in order to minimize liability and expenses.  This expert is the one we need to come and talk to us about insurance and how to get the best policy for the most reasonable price." I am aware of public marine insurance adjusters in Florida but have no direct knowledge of any of these.

Comments welcome.

I will keep you informed.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

Porter McRoberts
 

Mark. 
We have 3000 amps on the Victron multiplus and not enough to run our washer. So thinking of adding the 5000amp victron and upgrading to lithium’s when we get back to the boat. We washing at sea. It has to be calm. Very calm. Our washer has a spin cycle that goes variably 600 to 900 rpm, any yaw and it wants out!  How many amps  is your inverter?  

Porter
A54-152. 



On May 2, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:



This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically to catch up on laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth. 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from is normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger) there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t this of this earlier. If you hadn’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Martin,

I'm not sure. I found this reference on the estimate I got from FKG:

"Rotating Actuator OpacMare Passerelle:1849.26.02.24"

So this may on may not be the Opacmare number.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Washing Machine and 50 htz

Mark Erdos
 

 

This is one of those “duh” moments.

 

We have been aboard Cream Puff for 5+ year cruising full time. When in a marina with the incorrect cycles to run the washing machine, we have always run the genset periodically when needing to catch up on the laundry.

 

Now in Tahiti where voltage is like no other place on earth: 220v 60 htz, we parked in a marina and were disappoint when we discovered the wrong cycle for the washer/dryer.

 

Now comes the “duh” moment. Unplug the washer/dryer from its normal outlet and plug it into an outlet with power from the inverter. No need to run the generator. Also with a battery charger running (separate from the inverter/charger), there is no battery drain and no “pass through” power.

 

A couple of year ago, I upgraded the inverter aboard Cream Puff and it has ample wattage to run the washer/dryer. I have no idea as to why I didn’t think of earlier. If you haven’t thought of this yet either, you can buy me a beer later.

BTW – does anyone run the washer/dry while underway? We never have. I am wondering how the spin cycle works with the vessel pitching and rolling. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Alan Leslie
 

I agree, this is a big issue....
I have had issues with insurance companies that say they CAN'T insure Elyse because she is British registered, moored in New Zealand and I live in Australia.
What has all that got to do with the risk of insuring a boat ?
Right now I only have her insured for NZ waters as my plans to sail in the South Pacific this season are on hold...indefinitley.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

luvkante
 

Arno,

do you have a OPACMARE part# of the rotary actuator?

Martin
AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 


Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ralph,

 

Thanks, but the oil pressure was manually measured and confirmed to be low.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ralph.heilig
Sent: 02 May 2020 09:57
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 oil pressure

 

[Edited Message Follows]

I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this. Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted on my D3 (Part Nr. 863169).

I also had mechanic's on board testing manually the oil pressure. All the test's (or there equipment) where pretty inacurate.
I first would try replacing the oil pressure Sensor.

Ralph
A54 #144


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

Ralph Heilig
 
Edited

I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this. Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted on my D3 (Part Nr. 863169).

I also had mechanic's on board testing manually the oil pressure. All the test's (or there equipment) where pretty inacurate.
I first would try replacing the oil pressure Sensor.

Ralph
A54 #144


Re: "Bird Cage" TV Antenna

Marco Mancini
 

Dear Duane,
I have seen only now your message. We have the same difficulty in recieving the DTV  tv signal also mooring  in places where the tv signal is very good.
I Confirm  the possible shortcut on the head of the mast and the huge signal dispersion In fact  I noticed that one we switch on  the main mast navigation lights and the while the tv  is on we have the termic switch of the lights that swich off.
Do you have a picture of the masterhead you mentioned .?
 I have understood from your email that this cover contains the connection with the antenna and the rusted part is inside and  not visible  from a simple visual inspection on the mast head. Am I right ?
marco
Desiree SM 304


Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

Arno Luijten
 

Hj Greg,

The actuator is pure hydraulic/mechanical. It has two oil connectors. Push oil in one and the thing rotates in one direction, pushing oil from the other connection. Reversal by putting pressure in the other connector. 

Opacmare does not make this thing themselves. It’s a more or less generic part that can also be used in other machinery. We tried to find out who actually makes it but Opacmare removed any reference from the actuator. 

My guess is the thing was never designed for the marine environment and Opacmare did a sloppy job protecting it from salt water. 


Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Dean Gillies
 

I would certainly appreciate Zoom sessions with subject matter experts who can keep us up to date on topics which are relevant to our vessels.
Maybe we can add Instrumentation Systems (B&G, Furuno, Raymarine etc) to the list.  Also of interest would be Communications Systems (Satellite, SSB, etc).
You have created a (nice) monster Bill 👍
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io

karkauai
 

Great, thanks Bill.

On Apr 27, 2020 7:51 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Kent,

I talked to Steve about it. There were some errors in the file that were made by Steve's contractor. That file was removed from the files section.

This file may help you. It is everything that was in Steve's file with some added things. It is available to you through my website at CLIENT ACCESS>>Book Supplements>>Product Information>>Part 1 Deck & Hull>>Engine Hatch Bulge Repair. There are some other files at that location, including another hatch repair method. 


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:24 PM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill

I can't find the file uploaded by Steve Bell for engine room hatch repair. I clicked on the link in the notification email which took me to Files, but I can't find it.

Help!
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Apr 25, 2020 6:30 PM, "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification" <main+notification@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> wrote:

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that the following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group.

Uploaded By: steve b <stevect@...>

Description:
Repair of engine hatch bulges

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team