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Re: Bottom paint removal
Mark McGovern
Pat,
They are making a killing even at that price as it takes them only one day and it is pretty much just one guy doing the work. However, it was still worth the cost when you compare it to the time and materials that it will cost you to do it yourself, nevermind the wear and tear on your body! Discuss the bottom of the keel with JJ. If I remember correctly, for them to do the whole bottom it would have required a re-block of the boat by the yard (~$300ish) while they have the boat in their section of the yard. And then because I was doing more work on the hard, I was going to need yet another re-block to move me out of Ospreys section of the yard to my spot on the hard. So I just had Osprey do the bottom of the keel that was exposed and then when the marina moved the boat out of Ospreys area to my spot on the hard I asked them to make sure the timbers under the keel were in different spots. I then ground back and epoxy coated the two "stripes" under the keel myself. In hindsight, I should have just paid Osprey to do the whole bottom of the keel. Grinding the old epoxy off the bottom of that keel while laying down on gravel is NOT fun! -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Bottom paint removal
Pat,
When I bought Sangaris in 1999, I stripped her myself with the nastiest paint stripper I could find. Don't recall the brand name and it's likely banned by EPA these days, but shop around. If the label is mostly safety warnings and health disclaimers go ahead and give it a try - you're likely done procreating anyway. Try non-boating stores as they've wussified all the boating products. I did 3-foot-ish sections, liberally brushing on one thick coat, waiting a few minutes (depends on temperature) and EASILY removing stripper and paint with a putty knife. Then a second coat which took it down to gel coat with just a few spots left. Finished with bronze wool dipped in the remover for perfect result. Maybe 10-20 minutes per square. Do use lot's of PPE. I used silicone covered cotton gloves and kept a bucket of cold water next to me to dip them in when the burning got too intense. Also poured some on my topsiders when the feet began to burn. Nasty stuff. Hope you can still find some. It was so easy I did it again in Mexico 5 years later - it was on the shelf in the hardware stores next to the US banned R-12 freon cans I needed for my reefer. Btw, gelcoat is impervious to the stuff. So is Awlgrip type paint, which I had on my last boat and used the stripper to clean the boot stripe. If you've got barrier coat applied, I don't know about that, but then, thanks to the "Father of Fiberglass, Amels don't need barrier coat. Have fun with your toxic chemicals! Craig
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Re: Bottom paint removal
Patrick McAneny
Mark, That is less than half what I was quoted and frankly more inline considering the time and materials to do the job. Are they able to do anything to the bottom of the keel. I have always wondered how one could strip ,fair and coat the bottom of the keel.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 5:07 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal Pat,
Contact JJ at Osprey Marine Composites at Herrington Harbor North in Deale, MD: Local: 410-867-3022 E-mail: jj@...
Web: www.ospreycomposites.com
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They soda blasted my Amel down to the gelcoat for around US$2900 in December 2018. I was very pleased with the work. Just remind him that Amel's have a cast iron keel so that they are prepared to epoxy coat it immediately after blasting it. SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Bottom paint removal
Mark McGovern
Pat,
Contact JJ at Osprey Marine Composites at Herrington Harbor North in Deale, MD: Local: 410-867-3022 E-mail: jj@...
Web: www.ospreycomposites.com
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They soda blasted my Amel down to the gelcoat for around US$2900 in December 2018. I was very pleased with the work. Just remind him that Amel's have a cast iron keel so that they are prepared to epoxy coat it immediately after blasting it. SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Bottom paint removal
Patrick McAneny
I have about 4 layers of paint on my boat I would like to be rid of. I have been sanding boats for over 50 yrs. and have never found it fun. Using 40 grit on a 5 " orbital today,it took so long to get down to the gelcoat ,that I estimate it would take me a couple hundred hrs. to do take the entire boat down to the gelcoat. The marina I am in does not do soda ,only sand blasting. The sand blasting would cost me about $7,000.00, a chunk of change ,better spent having fun.
Does anybody have another option for stripping bottom paint that consumes less time and money. I would rather dig ditches than sand bottom paint, so if you need a ditch dug and enjoy sanding bottom paint,maybe we can work a deal,call me ! Thanks, Pat SM Shenanigans
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Re: Rudder Nut
eric freedman
Hi Bernd, Attached is a photo of one I cut out of aluminum stock. If it is short enough you can tighten the nut at sea without removing anything. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 1:45 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Nut
Hi Bernd;
Amel sells the required wrench, or you can have any machine shop make one for you. Aluminum would work best as it is light and easy to work with. We had one fabricated and also purchased one from Amel. I’m sure you can come up with other tools that will work, but the nut is fairly soft and you have to be careful how you apply pressure.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bernd Spanner via groups.io
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Re: Rudder Nut
Mohammad Shirloo
Smart.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of John Clanton via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 11:01 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Nut
Bernd,
I saw a bright Amel owner create a suitable spanner by taking a plastic cutting board, the type used in the galley, and cutting the correct dimension in the end of it with a hack saw. The soft plastic didn’t damage the compression nut, it didn’t cost him anything, and it worked perfectly.
John
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Re: Rudder Nut
John Clanton
Bernd,
I saw a bright Amel owner create a suitable spanner by taking a plastic cutting board, the type used in the galley, and cutting the correct dimension in the end of it with a hack saw. The soft plastic didn’t damage the compression nut, it didn’t cost him anything, and it worked perfectly.
John Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: Rudder Nut
Dennis Johns
Ironic that your last name is Spanner. That's the tool you need, it's called a plumber's adjustable spanner. Some folks have gone to a machine shop and had an aluminum tool cut to fit the nut. Dennis Johns
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:41 AM Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:
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Re: Rudder Nut
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Bernd;
Amel sells the required wrench, or you can have any machine shop make one for you. Aluminum would work best as it is light and easy to work with. We had one fabricated and also purchased one from Amel. I’m sure you can come up with other tools that will work, but the nut is fairly soft and you have to be careful how you apply pressure.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bernd Spanner via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 10:42 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Nut
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Rudder Nut
Hi,
I had a very little water near the rudder shaft after some heavy seas. Wanted to tighten the nut, bit its too big for my tools. Any advice or do I need another special tool? Tbanks -- Bernd SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal
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Re: Amel 55 mizen vibration
Dear Jose,
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I certainly do not want to keep you away of this charm, but you might try to wrap a hallyard a few times around the mizzen. This changes the airflow and might diminish the vibration. Best regards, Rob Dillmann Westwind Amel Mango 43 Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op 8 jul. 2020 om 16:52 heeft Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> het volgende geschreven:
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Re: Amel 55 mizen vibration
Jose Alegria
John Thank you I will try to find your " charm sailing life way". Thank you and please keep safe
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Re: Amel 55 mizen vibration
John Clanton <jclanton@...>
Jose,
I have experienced this on several occasions. I have not taken specific note of the wind speed or angle when it occurred, but in general, if there is a strong blow from somewhere aft of the beam, there is a noise generated, which creates some degree of vibration.
I have assumed it is when the combination of wind angle and speed causes a whistling or harmonic effect with the furler opening of the mast.
It can be attention getting, but we try not to pay any attention to it anymore. We have added it to the list of other “charms” of sailing life. Sorry I couldn’t provide a solution to eliminate it.
John W. Clanton S/V Devereux Amel 55, No. 65 Antibes, France Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: A54 Fresh Water Pressure
David, I sent you some pages from my Amel Book which will probably help you. Those pages illustrate the standard SM 66B pump, but it is designed and operates very similar to the pump you have, and the Square D pressure switch is exactly the same. The Square D Pressure switch may need replacing, the orifice cleaned, or the springs adjusted. I send you some pages from my Amel Book. If I were you, I would not attempt to adjust the Square D switch until everything else was attempted. It is almost impossible to buy a freshwater pump as good as the one that you have and you would be much better off to either rebuild what you have or pay someone to rebuild it. Cleaning the Square D Pressure switch orifice is not in the above pages, but illustrated in this photo. After removing the switch from the pressurized system, the orifice is visible inside the pipe connector (circled below). Note the cotton swabs with dirt and debris.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:59 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote: Many thanks Bill,
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Amel 55 mizen vibration
Jose Alegria
Dear amelians Today's topic concerns the Amel 55 model At marina berth , when the wind enters from the stern at 130-150º angles and with 10-15 knots of wind, there is an enormous vibration in the mizen mast; it is something that does not always appear, but that noise in the main cabin becomes highly annoying. Does anyone have an explanation for this, or some solution to this problem Kindest regards José Alegria A55#003MERIT
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Re: A54 Fresh Water Pressure
David Crisp
Many thanks Bill,
When I opened up the pump it was completely solid with crystals and deposit of some sort. Until I bought it last year she has been on the Sth France where the water is hard so maybe that plus an extended 9mths on the hard (thanks Covid) has caused the problem. A 24 hrs soak with shower cleaner (decalcifier) and some fiddling did the job. However, after reinstalling water appeared to be leaking from the rear seal. I must have somehow damaged the seal amongst my exploratory blundering, but maybe I can rebuild it for a spare. My new problem is the pressure switch doesn't seem to me working. It isn't automatically switching on. If I manually trigger the switch it latches on okay, the pump runs but doesn't trip off once pressure is reached (max 4bar). It was okay before. So far adjusting the two adjustment nuts 1 & 2 and it hasn't done any good. Grrrrr with frustration! Any suggestions? BTW you are correct about the price for tank + pump + switch assembly 950€. For the benefit of all, just the pump alone was 540€. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: Bamar EJF Furler
amel46met
Hi Bill
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No jammed swivel
Thanks for the manual I did not have that. thinking it could be stuck paws or maybe motor brushes was hoping to not have to drop the fore stay. thanks for your suggestions
Tom Deasy
Aphrodite Maramu #125
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My rewire of the 4jhshte
eric freedman
Here are a few photos of the finished job
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Re: Newer model Isolated ground kit for Yanmar from Amel
eric freedman
Hi Tom Here are some photos of the rewiring. In the 4th photo is a black wire that Amel used to connect all the negative sides of the senders. There were numerous connections and a few bad solder joints. In the new model wiring all of these leads go to the Valeo Solenoid. Fair Wind, Eric
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