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Re: Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Alejandro Paquin
 

Hello Bill, can you share your pics? My address is alex dot paquin at usa dot com
Many thanks
Alex
SIMPATICO
Maramu hull #94
1981


Re: Port Jib Sheet Winch Malfunction

peacock@...
 

Hi Kent,
As I always start off, "I'm no electrician", so...

I don't think it's a stuck relay. If you are wired correctly, then even if you had a stuck relay, nothing should work if the 24V breaker is off. You will have to trace the wires. 
A stuck relay would only be a problem if the 24V breaker were on, then, obviously, a big problem. Several years ago an owner lost an arm due to that. That's all the more reason to trace the wire, as what you're describing now leaves you with no ability to kill the power to that winch in an emergency (such as a stuck relay).

Tom Peacock
SM Aletes #240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Patrick McAneny
 

Danny , I spoke to Maud last Thursday and she told me she was leaving on Holiday. Unlike in the US. ,I think when they go on vacation the whole company may shut down and their vacations may be a month long , I am not sure about that ,but I know Maud is not there.
Pat 


-----Original Message-----
From: simms simms@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 5:20 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

 
Thank you Robin. Mine is a Leroy somer unfortunately. I have had little success so far. Maud in la Rochelle has yet to reply and Amel Caribbean referred me back to them so if any one had a good contact please let me know.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl
Sent from my Vodafone Smart
On Aug 2, 2016 7:33 PM, "robin6658@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
if it is a bonfiglioli (as mine is) - you can get an original from sotek.it for about 80 euros, however yours might be a different brand as your sm is much newer then mine
robin
sm #56


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Danny,

I know the Leroy Somer is not interchangeable with the bonfiglioli box, as I have had both in my hands before and compared. 

I suspect Amel is on holiday at the moment, but you might try Riza at Emek Marine in Turkey. At times he has had both of the gearboxes in stock. Contact info below. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Grenada

Riza email: cagdas@...
Mobile:  +90 532 495 65 39

On Aug 2, 2016, at 05:23, simms simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi again robin. Any chance of sending me a photo of yours to simms@... perhaps it may fit.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 2, 2016 7:33 PM, "robin6658@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

if it is a bonfiglioli (as mine is) - you can get an original from sotek.it for about 80 euros, however yours might be a different brand as your sm is much newer then mine

robin
sm #56


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi again robin. Any chance of sending me a photo of yours to simms@... perhaps it may fit.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 2, 2016 7:33 PM, "robin6658@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

if it is a bonfiglioli (as mine is) - you can get an original from sotek.it for about 80 euros, however yours might be a different brand as your sm is much newer then mine

robin
sm #56
www.gros-doux.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thank you Robin. Mine is a Leroy somer unfortunately. I have had little success so far. Maud in la Rochelle has yet to reply and Amel Caribbean referred me back to them so if any one had a good contact please let me know.
Regards
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 2, 2016 7:33 PM, "robin6658@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

if it is a bonfiglioli (as mine is) - you can get an original from sotek.it for about 80 euros, however yours might be a different brand as your sm is much newer then mine

robin
sm #56
www.gros-doux.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

robin hutter
 

if it is a bonfiglioli (as mine is) - you can get an original from sotek.it for about 80 euros, however yours might be a different brand as your sm is much newer then mine
robin
sm #56
www.gros-doux.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Port Jib Sheet Winch Malfunction

karkauai
 

Hi Duane.
Those are for the power to the winch motors (big wires).  The breaker on the 24v panel (icon looks like a joy stick) powers the switch panel at the helm for all the winches, the windlass, and the anchor wash.  I'm sure that those switches and the ones on the coaming go to relays for each motor, which then power the winch motors.  There are two electrical boxes up there that probably contain the relays, but I'm not on the boat now.  Hoping someone knows for sure where the relays are and what kind of relays so I can order them from home.  If I just know for sure where they are I can get someone to go aboard and identify what kind they are.

If I'm wrong about how the switches work, please someone let me know.

If I'm right, and the relay is stuck in the closed position, then a failed switch could cause a runaway winch.
Thanks
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:37 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Maybe I'm not understanding your question.  There is a breaker for the mainsail winch and the stbd winch above the midcabin birth, and a breaker in the engine room for the port winch.  They are not controlled by the 24 volt panel in the galley.


Duane
Wanderer, SM #477


Re: Port Jib Sheet Winch Malfunction

Duane Siegfri
 

Maybe I'm not understanding your question.  There is a breaker for the mainsail winch and the stbd winch above the midcabin birth, and a breaker in the engine room for the port winch.  They are not controlled by the 24 volt panel in the galley.

Duane
Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

My pleasure Tom,

Hopefully, the document, will help you and many others to see it is not too difficult…
And I believe the more often this is done, the easier it will be to remove the parts.
After cleaning, was so easy to put them back together!

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Mon, 8/1/16, peacock@nhms.biz [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 1, 2016, 4:09 PM


 









Alexandre,Thanks ever so much for
your effort to document the windlass process. Unfortunately,
however, it has added yet one more project to my "to
do" list for the boat. Better now than later, however,
is usually a good policy.
Tom PeacockSM Aletes #240Rock
Hall, MD









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Basic Maintenance of the Lofrans Tigres Windlass

peacock@...
 

Alexandre,
Thanks ever so much for your effort to document the windlass process. Unfortunately, however, it has added yet one more project to my "to do" list for the boat. Better now than later, however, is usually a good policy.

Tom Peacock
SM Aletes #240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port Jib Sheet Winch Malfunction

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Mine too Kent, try the mainsheet winch
Its likely the same..
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean pearl
Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 2, 2016 7:54 AM, "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all.
I hope everyone is having trouble-free fun.

I discovered, quite by accident, that even when the power to the control panel at the helm is off at the 24V breaker panel in the galley, the button switch on the coaming and the switch on the helm panel still activate the port winch. The starboard winch only works when the breaker in the galley is closed.
I assume there must be a relay that is stuck in the closed position. Can anyone tell me where it is, and/or tell me a model, part number, and/or source in the US for this relay?
I'm guessing it's in one of the boxes accessed through the ceiling in the passageway???

Thanks in advance
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Port Jib Sheet Winch Malfunction

karkauai
 

Hi all.
I hope everyone is having trouble-free fun.

I discovered, quite by accident, that even when the power to the control panel at the helm is off at the 24V breaker panel in the galley, the button switch on the coaming and the switch on the helm panel still activate the port winch. The starboard winch only works when the breaker in the galley is closed.
I assume there must be a relay that is stuck in the closed position. Can anyone tell me where it is, and/or tell me a model, part number, and/or source in the US for this relay?
I'm guessing it's in one of the boxes accessed through the ceiling in the passageway???

Thanks in advance
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks bill

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 2, 2016 7:06 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny,

It may be summer shut-down. Also email Jean COLLIN at Amel in Martinique <amel.caraibes@...>. I think I saw a used one there that could be rebuilt. 

Bill
BeBe

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
Our main sail furler gearbox needs replacing. I have emailed Maud at sav@... but unusually had no reply. I have gone back through old posts and found some other sources but no useful replies yet from these.
Has anyone got a source for a replacement furler gearbox. Both the bronze gear and the pinion are damaged so it is probably sensible to replace the whole thing rather than go for parts.
Thanks
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main sail furler gearbox

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Danny,

It may be summer shut-down. Also email Jean COLLIN at Amel in Martinique <amel.caraibes@...>. I think I saw a used one there that could be rebuilt. 

Bill
BeBe

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
Our main sail furler gearbox needs replacing. I have emailed Maud at sav@... but unusually had no reply. I have gone back through old posts and found some other sources but no useful replies yet from these.
Has anyone got a source for a replacement furler gearbox. Both the bronze gear and the pinion are damaged so it is probably sensible to replace the whole thing rather than go for parts.
Thanks
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl



main sail furler gearbox

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,
Our main sail furler gearbox needs replacing. I have emailed Maud at sav@... but unusually had no reply. I have gone back through old posts and found some other sources but no useful replies yet from these.
Has anyone got a source for a replacement furler gearbox. Both the bronze gear and the pinion are damaged so it is probably sensible to replace the whole thing rather than go for parts.
Thanks
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl


Re: Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Dave_Benjamin
 

Ed,

Having owned a Maramu that the previous owner was into for close to 250k when I bought it for substantially less, I'd advise caution about buying a basket case in the Caribbean. That's not a good place to undertake a major refit. Unless you're experienced and have extensive yacht refit experience under your belt, you'll be far better served buying a boat that's been well maintained and equipped. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Upgrading all electronics

amelforme
 

Hello Stephanie. Here is some information I hope you will find to be helpful. When replacing electronics, be sure to remind the technician that Amel boats have a full-floating/full earth return DC electrical system. This is critical to know and understand this as to install certain components including but not limited to voltage transformers and the like in a conventional manner will cause problems in the future which can evolve into serious challenges.

 

The clothes washer dryer and the dishwasher are not sold in the United States and there is no support for them here. The closest support can be found in the French Caribbean Islands and possibly through Amel in Martinique. That particular dishwasher is no longer manufactured and many of the spares are very difficult to obtain. The “brain” that controls all functions is not available anywhere. I have two electrical engineers attempting to ‘reverse engineer’ a replacement without luck so far. These appliances cannot tolerate American 60 cycle  240 volt electricity for even a nanosecond as it will ‘cook’ the brain instantly. As a European I am sure you are aware of this and I include this information for others reading who may not have this information.

 

Good luck with your refit.

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: alanrosens@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Upgrading all electronics

 

 

Hi All!

SM Indecent is on the hard in West Palm Beach to have all of her electronics replaced. All were original to 2002, so 14 years service is noble! I would also like to take this opportunity to have her washer /dryer and dishwasher serviced. Can anyone recommend a service in the Fort Lauderdale - West Palm Beach that does this? Many thanks.

Fair winds,
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM Indecent 353
On the hard in West Palm Beach


Upgrading all electronics

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Hi All!

SM Indecent is on the hard in West Palm Beach to have all of her electronics replaced. All were original to 2002, so 14 years service is noble! I would also like to take this opportunity to have her washer /dryer and dishwasher serviced. Can anyone recommend a service in the Fort Lauderdale - West Palm Beach that does this? Many thanks.

Fair winds,
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM Indecent 353
On the hard in West Palm Beach


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu FRIENDSHIP II Hull #415 From San Francisco

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

I’ll second Bill R’s comment.  

If you want to go sailing, buy a boat ready to sail.  There are lots of them out there, even if you have to look hard for one to match your desires and budget. The amount of money, effort, and time it takes to rehabilitate a tired old boat is ALWAYS much more than predicted.  Just maintaining a boat in good condition is expensive.  A good rule of thumb is to expect to spend annually between 3 and 5% of the value of the boat as it it were NEW on today’s market—NOT it’s value on the used market.  For an Amel SM, that would be something between k$20 and k$30 on average for an ownership cost budget number just to keep it in good shape on an ongoing basis.

On the other hand there are people who enjoy the process of rebuilding something.  If that is your joy, then have at it!  I look at it like the person who picks up an antique car that has been rusting out in the farmer’s field and spends countless hours and dollars restoring it. That purchase wasn’t made to acquire a car for cheap! Do not think a boat would be any different.

Choose your avocation.  If your goal is to sail: Buy a sailing boat.  If you want to rebuild a boat: Buy a project boat.  But those two goals rarely go together in a happy way.

Another topic vaguely related to this one…  Think about what happens to your boat if something happens to you.  For most of us a large and expensive boat will be more of a burden than a gift to family members.  Planning ahead and setting up something might save your loved ones a whole lot of trouble.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 31, 2016, at 17:30, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



To all dreaming about buying this boat and bringing it back from the dead. It is worth far more as a charitable gift than the maximum cash anyone should offer. It is NOT your dream purchase it is your nightmare purchase. 

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad.