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Re: A54 rudder removal

 

Paul, 

The rudder stuffing box should be the only thing that may need attention on your 54.
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:43 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill, I’ll give it a try. I was wondering if there may be anything else that needs to be checked rudder-wise hence the notion of removing it.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 15 January 2020 21:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 rudder removal

 

You do not need to remove the rudder on the 54 to change the packing. You need to remove the top of the rudder post (the quadrant). Then remove the packing nut from the rudder post, remove the old packing, then insert new packing from Amel, and tighten the nut. In 90 days, you will likely need to tighten the nut again.

 

I have more detailed instructions, but considering your experience, the above will likely work for you.


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:24 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I want to remove my rudder to change the stuffing and do a general inspection, but have no clue as to how this is done, so would very much appreciate a point in the right direction.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Boat insurance Martinique

martin haméline
 

Thanks Paul and Matt!


On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Try Gary Golden, Manifest Marine

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:59 AM, martin haméline <marafiki37@...> wrote:

Bonjour Amelians,

First off I must state that I am totally impressed with the Amel owner user group - Merci Beacoup.

We are in final negotiations to buy our Amel and hopefully will be the new owners soon.  We need to arrange boat insurance and contacted Topsail; who was Unable to cover us....

Appreciate any recommendations here for insurance companies in the Caribbean.  The boat will be in Martinique until late April/May  when she will be sailed to Delaware and the NE US for the summer.  

Thanks and cheers,

Martin Hameline
SV/Marafiki
818-331-8999

Re: Boat insurance Martinique

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Martin,

 

Try Anjo in Antigua.

 

Anio lnsurances

Woods Centre I Friars Hill Road

St.lohn's I Anthua

T 268480 3050 I F 2684803064

Agent for Massy Unlted lnsurance Ltd.

Massyunitedlnsurance.com

Anjo_ins@...

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of martin haméline
Sent: 16 January 2020 09:59
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Boat insurance Martinique

 

Bonjour Amelians,

 

First off I must state that I am totally impressed with the Amel owner user group - Merci Beacoup.

 

We are in final negotiations to buy our Amel and hopefully will be the new owners soon.  We need to arrange boat insurance and contacted Topsail; who was Unable to cover us....

 

Appreciate any recommendations here for insurance companies in the Caribbean.  The boat will be in Martinique until late April/May  when she will be sailed to Delaware and the NE US for the summer.  

 

Thanks and cheers,

 

Martin Hameline

SV/Marafiki

818-331-8999


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Boat insurance Martinique

Matt Salatino
 

Try Gary Golden, Manifest Marine

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:59 AM, martin haméline <marafiki37@...> wrote:

Bonjour Amelians,

First off I must state that I am totally impressed with the Amel owner user group - Merci Beacoup.

We are in final negotiations to buy our Amel and hopefully will be the new owners soon.  We need to arrange boat insurance and contacted Topsail; who was Unable to cover us....

Appreciate any recommendations here for insurance companies in the Caribbean.  The boat will be in Martinique until late April/May  when she will be sailed to Delaware and the NE US for the summer.  

Thanks and cheers,

Martin Hameline
SV/Marafiki
818-331-8999

Re: Looks like Amel hit one out of the box.

Matt Salatino
 

Congrats!
See if the AMEL50 TECHGROUP Facebook Page will let you join. The boats are similar in technology and construction.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mark Dajani via Groups.Io <mdajani@...> wrote:

Great news for the Amel yard. My 60H3 just went into the water last week.  Super excited. Dealing with the Amel team has been a joy.  I look forward to sharing my experience.  

Mark 

Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

 

The following is my understanding: The pump controller (blue box in 54s) receives voltage input from each of the Danfoss compressor controllers. The "fan output" terminal on the Danfoss is the output terminal that connects to the pump controller. The Danfoss fan output is 12 volts, regardless of whether the refrigeration unit is 12 or 24 volts.

BTW, the blue box may no longer be available, unless old stock. Frigoboat replaced it with a relay for each refrigerator unit.

I hope this helps. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 7:42 PM Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
Scott, you have me really thinking about this thorn in my side. My boat is on the hard now, but I am going to check the voltage coming out of the pump controller. If it is really 12 volts, then I think I am "missing the boat" by using 24-volt pumps. I no longer have the original Amel installation, so I am at a loss as to what came with the boat. I do feel, though, that running a 24-volt pump at 12 volts is asking for the problems which I have experience multiple times. I will investigate and see what is going on - I am an electrical engineer but do not want to profess any sort of expertise at this time. My old boat used keel-cooled units and I never had any issues - no pump!!
I will find out in the spring here in the US.
Jamie
A54 Phantom.

Boat insurance Martinique

martin haméline
 

Bonjour Amelians,

First off I must state that I am totally impressed with the Amel owner user group - Merci Beacoup.

We are in final negotiations to buy our Amel and hopefully will be the new owners soon.  We need to arrange boat insurance and contacted Topsail; who was Unable to cover us....

Appreciate any recommendations here for insurance companies in the Caribbean.  The boat will be in Martinique until late April/May  when she will be sailed to Delaware and the NE US for the summer.  

Thanks and cheers,

Martin Hameline
SV/Marafiki
818-331-8999

Re: Looks like Amel hit one out of the box.

Mark Dajani
 

Great news for the Amel yard. My 60H3 just went into the water last week.  Super excited. Dealing with the Amel team has been a joy.  I look forward to sharing my experience.  

Mark 

Re: Skarki Headspace / Celing Height

MATTHIAS GRAWE
 

Thank you, cigale, these pdf habe a great resolution.

Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Matt Salatino
 

My previous boat had a 12 volt system. The water circulation pumps for the fridge and freezer compressors ran at 5 volts, as the only needed low flow. I think you can safely run your pumps at 12 volts.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:

Scott, you have me really thinking about this thorn in my side. My boat is on the hard now, but I am going to check the voltage coming out of the pump controller. If it is really 12 volts, then I think I am "missing the boat" by using 24-volt pumps. I no longer have the original Amel installation, so I am at a loss as to what came with the boat. I do feel, though, that running a 24-volt pump at 12 volts is asking for the problems which I have experience multiple times. I will investigate and see what is going on - I am an electrical engineer but do not want to profess any sort of expertise at this time. My old boat used keel-cooled units and I never had any issues - no pump!!
I will find out in the spring here in the US.
Jamie
A54 Phantom.

Re: Looks like Amel hit one out of the box.

Jamie Wendell
 

Just thought I would chime in to Arno's comments about the Amel 54. To me it is the best of all possible designs - dated now I guess, but I cannot think of ANY other boat I would want. I really appreciate the quality and features on the new 50 and 60 (and the modern technology), but for me the 54 is the epitome of what Amel does right. I could go on and on but I truly like the layout and the ketch rig and am sorry to see it go. If the new boats keep the company going strong, go for it. I support that and welcome the newcomers. Maybe if I were 10 years younger...............
I suppose I am just adding my 2 cents here but I love my 54 and the Amel concepts.
Jamie
A54 Phantom

Re: Mango Bonding

Arlo
 

Hello Charles. I plan to try and get the drawing scanned to a electronic file and will then post online. If not I will take a pic and post

Re: A54 rudder removal

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Bill, I’ll give it a try. I was wondering if there may be anything else that needs to be checked rudder-wise hence the notion of removing it.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 15 January 2020 21:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 rudder removal

 

You do not need to remove the rudder on the 54 to change the packing. You need to remove the top of the rudder post (the quadrant). Then remove the packing nut from the rudder post, remove the old packing, then insert new packing from Amel, and tighten the nut. In 90 days, you will likely need to tighten the nut again.

 

I have more detailed instructions, but considering your experience, the above will likely work for you.


--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:24 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I want to remove my rudder to change the stuffing and do a general inspection, but have no clue as to how this is done, so would very much appreciate a point in the right direction.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Jamie Wendell
 

Scott, you have me really thinking about this thorn in my side. My boat is on the hard now, but I am going to check the voltage coming out of the pump controller. If it is really 12 volts, then I think I am "missing the boat" by using 24-volt pumps. I no longer have the original Amel installation, so I am at a loss as to what came with the boat. I do feel, though, that running a 24-volt pump at 12 volts is asking for the problems which I have experience multiple times. I will investigate and see what is going on - I am an electrical engineer but do not want to profess any sort of expertise at this time. My old boat used keel-cooled units and I never had any issues - no pump!!
I will find out in the spring here in the US.
Jamie
A54 Phantom.

Re: selling an Amel

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Bill,

I’m only thinking about it at this stage but that’s a great help, 

regards Paul



On 16 Jan 2020, at 12:12, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Paul,

Happy New Year!

Normally, you have two choices: when selling your Amel 
  1. Make a deal with a broker
  2. Sell it yourself
I caution you that selling yourself is difficult, very difficult.

In either case, I would create a web page or a blog with as much information about your boat as possible. The more photos, the better. Google Blogs is a good place to start. You might want to look at our circumnavigation blog at www.svbebe.com, and especially under The Boat tab. Once you have completed either 1 or 2 above, you should join the Yachts For Sale Subgroup and post the information on your boat. Then come back to the main group and announce your posting in the subgroup. Be sure to give readers several options to contact you or the broker.

Good luck.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar





Re: A54 rudder removal

 

You do not need to remove the rudder on the 54 to change the packing. You need to remove the top of the rudder post (the quadrant). Then remove the packing nut from the rudder post, remove the old packing, then insert new packing from Amel, and tighten the nut. In 90 days, you will likely need to tighten the nut again.

I have more detailed instructions, but considering your experience, the above will likely work for you.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:24 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I want to remove my rudder to change the stuffing and do a general inspection, but have no clue as to how this is done, so would very much appreciate a point in the right direction.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: selling an Amel

 

Paul,

Happy New Year!

Normally, you have two choices: when selling your Amel 
  1. Make a deal with a broker
  2. Sell it yourself
I caution you that selling yourself is difficult, very difficult.

In either case, I would create a web page or a blog with as much information about your boat as possible. The more photos, the better. Google Blogs is a good place to start. You might want to look at our circumnavigation blog at www.svbebe.com, and especially under The Boat tab. Once you have completed either 1 or 2 above, you should join the Yachts For Sale Subgroup and post the information on your boat. Then come back to the main group and announce your posting in the subgroup. Be sure to give readers several options to contact you or the broker.

Good luck.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar


A54 rudder removal

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I want to remove my rudder to change the stuffing and do a general inspection, but have no clue as to how this is done, so would very much appreciate a point in the right direction.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: selling an Amel

Paul Brown
 

Good day Bill,

I hope this finds you well.

Is it possible for your advise and how to advertise my Amel 55 forsale on this forum, is it acceptable and if so what is the process?

Kind regards, Paul Brown Amel 55 #17


On 20 Sep 2019, at 00:32, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:56 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
Hi Pat 
You’re absolutely right. It’s not a good Idea. 
I tried have done it also with flex bungee cables. In some place it works well. Not much shock on the cables. Sometimes I had it too loose so the rudder was moving. 
Thanks Danny and Paul for your advice. 
Best regards
Ruedi 
WASABI A54-55

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Mittwoch, 18. September 2019 um 20:21
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

Ruedi, I would advise against securing the quadrant ,in the event of an emergency a boat should be ready to move immediately . Having to leave the cockpit and go down to the aft stateroom ,lift the bed and untie the quadrant sounds like a bad idea.
I have a small stainless hook secured to the bulkhead about six inches below the wheel ,I use a black rubber bungee with hooks on the ends , I put those hooks over two of  the spokes on the wheel and the bungee under the hook. This allows a very little bit of play, but 99 % a the time no movement at all and we live on a mooring. I can unsecure the wheel in one second if need be.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Sep 18, 2019 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

Hi Ruedi, if the wheel is tied tight and there is clonking it is possible your steering cables need adjustment. Easy to do where they are mounted by the quadrant. Just like adjusting cables on a bicycle.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 19 September 2019 at 00:19 "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote: 

Hi Ruedi,
The best is to fix it, but if you fix it it MUST be without any gap (possibility that the rude can move) ... else do not fix it ...
JLMERTZ
CottonBay


Le 18/09/2019 à 11:52, Rudolf Waldispuehl a écrit : 
Dear Amel'ias

I’m curious about experience with tie on the steering wheel and maybe someone has a proven technical answer. 
When I’m on Anchor or in a Marina I always fix/tie the steering wheel in the cockpit with a rope. After this summer in many anchorages with some swell I was not sure anymore if these is the right solution. 
 
Always when small waves hitting the rudder the wheel tried to turn in one or other direction and there is a noticeable noise (little dong) on the cables. 
When I was loosing the rope then the noise was notable under the aft bed because the Autopilot linear drive gear is moving and made noise.   
I’m now quite unsecure which option is the better, -  fix the wheel or let it move around?  Both ways are working on either AP Linear drive and/or steering cables. 
 
Would be the best option to make a fix/tie on the rudder quadrant to stop moving? Has someone done it? 
What is your experience and long-term observations? 
 
Thanks for your thought and best regards
Ruedi
SY-WASABI 
AMEL 54#55

Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com

 

 



Re: Repairing holes in aft cabin trunk / deck

James Cromie
 

Correction:  I like to use “waxless”... not “way less” gelcoat!

Color matching is not difficult if you have patience.  The texturing might be best accomplished by someone being paid $75//hr.   
I agree with removing the life raft personally - For reasons mentioned.  
I prefer to keep my life raft in the cockpit port lazarette.  This is the most protected place to remove it, though requires a bit of strength for raising it out which is the main drawback... but for my wife or myself,  it is not an issue.  Having it out on the life rail or deck leaves it exposed to tons of water washing over your boat, and exposes crew to the greater risk of being swept off.   Also, I imagine  the lifespan of the life raft is likely to be longer in a place protected from the elements.   

I think having the deck as clear as possible improves overall safety and security.  

James
Sv Soteria 


On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:11 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Congratulations Elise and Kevin. Looks like a nice boat you’ve got yourselves!  For the reason you’ve described, I strive to avoid putting any new holes in the boat because of the risk of eventual water intrusion.  Amels are incredibly dry yachts in their original design.  
I had a solar arch made to replace smaller davits already in place on the stern.  These left holes in the stern that communicated with the stern lazarette.  To fill the holes, I redrilled them and chamfered inside and outside.  After carefully cleaning with acetone, I filled the holes with West System epoxy, using the UV and water protectant high density filler.  This filler allows you to achieve a peanut butter consistency.  Using a syringe, it can be inserted into the holes which have already been masked with tape.  The epoxy is easily workable and a putty knife is used to trim away any excess.  Before fully curing, remove tape.  
Lightly sand when fully cured and re apply gel coat to the areas.  I like to use way less gelcoat so that I can apply multiple coats to count our it better. You can feather it and color match by trial and error and it works out well.   Getting the same surface texture is difficult and I don’t have any tricks on that yet!    I would not keep hardware in place because it will eventually leak and corrosion will eventually set in.  

Best,
James
Sv Soteria #347
Las perlas, Panama 


On Jan 14, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Kevin Fox via Groups.Io <foxkm@...> wrote:

Greetings All.  My family and I are excited to be the new owners of Rascal.  I've been following this forum for over a year and am impressed by, and appreciative of, all the knowledge that Amel owners are willing to share.  I hope to get up to speed quickly and do my part to help others.

Rascal has a life raft mounted in a rack on the cabin trunk immediately aft of the mizzen mast. We’re not big fans of this location and plan to move it. One of the issues is that there are leaks around some of the bolts. There are twelve total, in groups of three. We can see the screw heads in the aft head and in the passageway just outside the aft head.
 
If we remove the rack we’ll need to fill the holes. I’ve seen information on how to clean out holes in fiberglass decks, including trying to remove some of the coring around the hole if wet, in preparation for filling them with thickened epoxy. Are there any tricks or special procedures for this type of repair on an Amel?
 
I don’t think we’ll be able to access the bottom of the fiberglass from inside the boat, so I’m guessing that we’ll need to use high viscosity (well-thickened) epoxy. Am I correct that there is space between the cabin ceiling and the fiberglass?
 
Another approach might be to put new, low-profile bolts in these holes and re-bed them well. Replacement bolts might also solve the issue of what to do with the holes left in the cabin ceiling. 
 
Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you!

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Kevin and Elise Fox
SM2k #404 Rascal
Charleston, SC