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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Stephen Davis
 

I think we saw this boat sitting in a marina in the Chesapeake as we were passing by. It made me do a double take, and was seriously ugly, as well as poorly maintained. Unless there are more than one of these, it had to be it. Couldn't give it to me. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Grenada

On Jul 20, 2016, at 13:37, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,


:-)  We found the heat is reduced … marginally…. when the faux teak gets too tired to grip my soles, I’ll find a white product for the side decks.  Today, I got some real hot “foot” while hot footing it barefoot in the Majorca sun…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
Eleuthera, SM007



On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP, 

I am sure it is not the only thing that we don't agree on...and I am sure that you are not the only one that disagrees with me.

Last time I checked we were not running a contest here.

BTW, I do agree with you on white deck stripes and since my brown needed freshening up, we now have white faux caulking between our faux teak boards on our faux teak deck, on our REAL Amel Super Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387, but not for long
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gang ,


I don’t fully agree with Bill R on this.  We are not talking about a religion but a boat.

One good thing to think about is the “bone standard” shaft drive.  The rest is hohum!..

She’ll be cheap unless the “one born every minute” shows up.

:-)

JPG
Eleuthera SM007

On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume that anyone looking to buy an Amel, would never, ever buy this boat, but if you are looking for a Hunter, it may be the perfect boat.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery questions

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

Since you do not know how old they are, Yes, replace all of them. If they were less than 2 years old, you might consider just replacing the failed ones. I strongly believe that you should replace them with lead or calcium Freedom style GP31 batteries...be careful of all of the dimensions, including the 2" rail under the lid, when buying new batteries. I viewed your uploaded file and I suggest that you've had some bad batteries for possibly months, and could have cooked your bank...luckily that did not happen.

The bad batteries could have internal shorts which will cause any charger, including the 175 amp Leece-Neville with an internal charging regulator, to overcharge and cook the batteries.

I do not have the same model of your Dolphin battery chargers, but have read that there is a very small screw selector switch that is sometimes hidden by a wire. Unfortunately the people who know this have not uploaded a photo, so that is all I can give you.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:34 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I just load tested the batteries and found Mastervolt Gel Cell batteries.  4 out of the 12 in the house bank have failed (see the link below).  There was one pair that failed together, the other two are linked to good batteries.  There wasn't a date on the batteries, so I have no idea how old they are, but I assume they are not original.


I also have the Leece-Neville 175 amp alternator on the engine and there is no external regulator, so it's undercharging the batteries, but at least that's better than overcharging them.  Maybe down the road I will install the external regulator.  


I also have the Dolphin 30A and 100A "Power First" chargers.  The 7 page brochure I have notes Gel charging at 28.4V (boost) and 27.2V float and for wet batteries (i.e. "free") at 27.7V (boost) and 26.5V (float).  However I don't see how you would switch the chargers from gel to wet or vice versa.  The Xantrex Battery monitor shows the float voltage to be 27.19V.  I have the charger turned off now, so later I'll check the boost voltage.


Two questions for the group:

1.  Would you replace all twelve when four have failed?

2.  Is there more information on the Dolphin "Power First" 30A and 100A chargers?  I can't find where you would select the type of battery being charged.


Duane

Wanderer SM #477


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/SV%20Wanderer/BatteryLoadTest.pdf

 



Re: curtain slides

Duane Siegfri
 

Thank you Bill!

Duane


Re: curtain slides

Duane Siegfri
 

Thank you very much for the offer Barry, but I think I've got it worked out.  

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Bill,

:-)  We found the heat is reduced … marginally…. when the faux teak gets too tired to grip my soles, I’ll find a white product for the side decks.  Today, I got some real hot “foot” while hot footing it barefoot in the Majorca sun…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
Eleuthera, SM007



On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP, 

I am sure it is not the only thing that we don't agree on...and I am sure that you are not the only one that disagrees with me.

Last time I checked we were not running a contest here.

BTW, I do agree with you on white deck stripes and since my brown needed freshening up, we now have white faux caulking between our faux teak boards on our faux teak deck, on our REAL Amel Super Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387, but not for long
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gang ,


I don’t fully agree with Bill R on this.  We are not talking about a religion but a boat.

One good thing to think about is the “bone standard” shaft drive.  The rest is hohum!..

She’ll be cheap unless the “one born every minute” shows up.

:-)

JPG
Eleuthera SM007

On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume that anyone looking to buy an Amel, would never, ever buy this boat, but if you are looking for a Hunter, it may be the perfect boat.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


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Battery questions

Duane Siegfri
 

I just load tested the batteries and found Mastervolt Gel Cell batteries.  4 out of the 12 in the house bank have failed (see the link below).  There was one pair that failed together, the other two are linked to good batteries.  There wasn't a date on the batteries, so I have no idea how old they are, but I assume they are not original.


I also have the Leece-Neville 175 amp alternator on the engine and there is no external regulator, so it's undercharging the batteries, but at least that's better than overcharging them.  Maybe down the road I will install the external regulator.  


I also have the Dolphin 30A and 100A "Power First" chargers.  The 7 page brochure I have notes Gel charging at 28.4V (boost) and 27.2V float and for wet batteries (i.e. "free") at 27.7V (boost) and 26.5V (float).  However I don't see how you would switch the chargers from gel to wet or vice versa.  The Xantrex Battery monitor shows the float voltage to be 27.19V.  I have the charger turned off now, so later I'll check the boost voltage.


Two questions for the group:

1.  Would you replace all twelve when four have failed?

2.  Is there more information on the Dolphin "Power First" 30A and 100A chargers?  I can't find where you would select the type of battery being charged.


Duane

Wanderer SM #477


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/SV%20Wanderer/BatteryLoadTest.pdf

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

JP, 

I am sure it is not the only thing that we don't agree on...and I am sure that you are not the only one that disagrees with me.

Last time I checked we were not running a contest here.

BTW, I do agree with you on white deck stripes and since my brown needed freshening up, we now have white faux caulking between our faux teak boards on our faux teak deck, on our REAL Amel Super Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387, but not for long
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gang ,


I don’t fully agree with Bill R on this.  We are not talking about a religion but a boat.

One good thing to think about is the “bone standard” shaft drive.  The rest is hohum!..

She’ll be cheap unless the “one born every minute” shows up.

:-)

JPG
Eleuthera SM007

On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume that anyone looking to buy an Amel, would never, ever buy this boat, but if you are looking for a Hunter, it may be the perfect boat.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


Amel Super Maramu

Amel Super Maramu
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Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang ,

I don’t fully agree with Bill R on this.  We are not talking about a religion but a boat.

One good thing to think about is the “bone standard” shaft drive.  The rest is hohum!..

She’ll be cheap unless the “one born every minute” shows up.

:-)

JPG
Eleuthera SM007

On 20 Jul 2016, at 22:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume that anyone looking to buy an Amel, would never, ever buy this boat, but if you are looking for a Hunter, it may be the perfect boat.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


Amel Super Maramu

Amel Super Maramu
1989 Amel Super Maramu
Preview by Yahoo






Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I would suspect this was from a de-mast…
Interesting about changing the drive (does it mean he lost the keel too?)

Going to be hard to sell…




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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 3:06 PM


 









Here is something to stir the pot a
little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner
even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft
when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this
offends anyone or has no place being on this
forum. 
Signed - A loyal Amel
owner.
Bill
Maffei SM
#195It's all
Good 
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Maramu



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Sloop

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I assume that anyone looking to buy an Amel, would never, ever buy this boat, but if you are looking for a Hunter, it may be the perfect boat.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:06 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


Amel Super Maramu

Amel Super Maramu
1989 Amel Super Maramu
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Amel Sloop

william_maffei@...
 

Here is something to stir the pot a little. My friend passed this link along to me. This owner even went as far as changing the C drive to a 8 degree shaft when re-powering. I want to apologize in advance if this offends anyone or has no place being on this forum. 


Signed - A loyal Amel owner.


Bill Maffei 

SM #195

It's all Good 


Amel Super Maramu



Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Alan Leslie
 

Well done !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Niels,

Good news and good job.

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 7:09 PM, niels.hauerslev@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear all,


I have finally fixed the alternator problem, and it was not really straight forward;

After knowing about the relay and the red light in the 24 volt panel, I soon discovered that the circuit for exiting the 24 V alternator and lighting up the red light was not correctly installed.

There was one wire connected to the + terminal of the alternator, this small gauge wire was moved to the "F" terminal of the alternator, and now the red light works as expected (lights up when ignition "ON" and turns off when motor starts and alternator delivers power).

Thank you for all the input, your help was crucial for me finding the fault and correcting the problem!

BR Niels



Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

niels.hauerslev@...
 

Dear all,

I have finally fixed the alternator problem, and it was not really straight forward;

After knowing about the relay and the red light in the 24 volt panel, I soon discovered that the circuit for exiting the 24 V alternator and lighting up the red light was not correctly installed.

There was one wire connected to the + terminal of the alternator, this small gauge wire was moved to the "F" terminal of the alternator, and now the red light works as expected (lights up when ignition "ON" and turns off when motor starts and alternator delivers power).

Thank you for all the input, your help was crucial for me finding the fault and correcting the problem!

BR Niels


Re: Original instruments

jjjk12s@...
 

Pat,

 

Furono used to be leaders in radar and sounders and are still very good butmore commercially focused these days and for recreational use others have caught up. Navico (B&G, Lowrance and Simrad) vs Raymarine is really the main choice and it's down to personal preference.

 

Pluses for Navico are the 4G radar and the autopilots are good. (I believe Navico took over Robertson quite a while ago so that's their heritage.) B&G radar and autopilot computer are identical to Simrad.

 

I don't think Navico do a rotary autopilot drive though so Raymarine might win there, although a Navico computer and control head should easily operate a Raymarine drive. Raymarine also has an arrangement with Apple making it easy to use wifi to use an ipad as a plotter repeater if you have a Raymarine plotter, although I think Navico can do that with an extra item.

 

You should be able to convert to an N2K backbone to integrate B&G (or Simrad) with Raymarine but linking Simnet and SeatalkNG needs adaptors and thought. Although some information appears to be sharable between brands it may not all be, so it 's a bit of a minefield, such as getting the autopilot of one company to steer to the wind instrument of another company, or steer a route from another brand's plotter.

 

If I was in your position I would probably go with all B&G as your mechanic suggests, unless the autopilot drive was a determining factor, but it is like choosing a brand of car you like, each has their fans,

 

John, Maramu 91, Popeye (Furono radar, Raymarine St60 instuments, Simrad autopilot, Lowrance plotter)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rudder leaky

Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

In my unit there is no L- plate, but a small wire through a hole in the side of the nut going TO an steel eye beside. But the wire is rüstend away ;-) 
Tomorrow I get a key fitting for the the mother. Then we try it. Thanks a lot up TO here. If the Unit is dry, we wait until wintertime and look after the rudder, if it is out of the water. Have a good time :-)


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Am Mittwoch, Juli 20, 2016, 5:51 PM schrieb derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] :

 

Martin,


The nylon packing nut goes clockwise to tighten, as viewed from above.  There is an L plate held in place by two screws that keeps the nut from turning by itself.  Remove the L plate and tighten the nut by 1/6 of a turn and see if that stops the leak. It should not take much adjusting.

If the nut will not further turn, it may be time to remove the rudder quadrant, remove the nut, pick out the packing and replace it.  Amel SAV have an exact replacement for the packing, and can even supply a new nylon nut if you need it.

I believe that this packing replacement is best done out of the water (someone speak up if it can be done in the water).  However the nut tightening can be done in the water.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
On the hard in Antigua


Re: Rudder leaky

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Martin,

The nylon packing nut goes clockwise to tighten, as viewed from above.  There is an L plate held in place by two screws that keeps the nut from turning by itself.  Remove the L plate and tighten the nut by 1/6 of a turn and see if that stops the leak. It should not take much adjusting.

If the nut will not further turn, it may be time to remove the rudder quadrant, remove the nut, pick out the packing and replace it.  Amel SAV have an exact replacement for the packing, and can even supply a new nylon nut if you need it.

I believe that this packing replacement is best done out of the water (someone speak up if it can be done in the water).  However the nut tightening can be done in the water.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
On the hard in Antigua


Rudder leaky

sy.stenella@...
 

Brause I am with my IPhone only, I Goulds mit durch for former discussions. Hope, you can help The rudder trunk of my SM#34 is somewhat leaky (1-2 Ltr. by day, more under sail). The big 70mm. PU- Mother, who acts as a kind of packing, I will tight a little denser. Two questions on this: how much do I have to tighten the nut and in which direction? I think right side. is that correct?
How I notice when the mother is in the end? Stenella is 26 years old and to this screw I've never turned.
If the screw needs to be replaced, is it possible in the water, or needs the ship to be dug?

Sincerly, Martin, SV Stenella, in time @ Mediterranian Sea, Croatia.


Re: Original instruments

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

SM#400 is equipped with all Raymarine electronics except for the AIS (Watchmate), SSB (M802) and Pactor IV Dragon modem, and the satellite phone (FBB250).  This includes 2 autopilots, GPS, 2 chartplotters, a 203e VHF with two handsets, radar, and compass.  So far, in three years of ownership, I have only had to replace the spiral cords to the VHF microphones, and take the VHF to the Manchester NH Raytheon site to have the new MMSI number programmed in (at which point the Raytheon technician updated the VHF programming to include both European and US situations).  I have found that the Raytheon systems seem to be very well integrated, although I do not have a lot of expertise in this area.  They certainly have been trouble-free.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua