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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

James Studdart
 

I can't tell you the quality yet... But I would expect the fuel docks to be busy (which is good!).

I called GibOil (+350 200 48232) just half and hour ago for the price:

Up to 100l: 52p
Up to 500l: 46p
Over 500l: 39p

The price seems a little flexible too.

I've not called the other dock yet (I think there is two).

Cheers,
James.

SeaBean SM344
Queensway Quay Marina
Gibraltar, but wind willing in the Canary Islands soon.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

Mark Erdos
 

Eric,

 

What size breaker did you install?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff

 

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

 

 

I installed volt, frequency, and amp meters and a circuit breaker in

Kimberlite. They are mounted before the actual voltage enters the man AC panel as I leave the circuit breaker that I installed off before turning the boat on. Years ago I saw a 110 volt American boat plug into a pedestal in Bermuda that was mis wired and he had 440 volts blow out everything on his boat.

3 weeks ago I returned to my slip at my yacht club , plugged in and found 110 volts on my panel. fortunately my safety breaker was off. I plugged into another pedestal. taped off the bad pedestal and all was good.

Always check the voltage of what your are plugging into.

Fair Winds,

 Eric


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Mike,

We had our SM painted in Trinidad, and had to remove the rubber from the rub rail. It came out from front to back fairly easily. Our boat is close to 25 years old, has lived much of its life in the Caribbean, and the rubber part was still supple and easy to work with. After removal, I scrubbed it, and then waxed the exposed part. It looks almost as good as new. Getting it back in was a 2 person job. We started at the bow, and one person lined it up while the other person used a rubber mallet to fit it back in. Probably 2 hours of work for both sides. 

Good luck with the project. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Grenada

On Aug 21, 2016, at 17:57, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

karkauai
 

That's how I wired Kristy.  I'll be better about turning that breaker off before I plug in.  Thanks.
Kent

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:03 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed volt, frequency, and amp meters and a circuit breaker in

Kimberlite. They are mounted before the actual voltage enters the man AC panel as I leave the circuit breaker that I installed off before turning the boat on. Years ago I saw a 110 volt American boat plug into a pedestal in Bermuda that was mis wired and he had 440 volts blow out everything on his boat.

3 weeks ago I returned to my slip at my yacht club , plugged in and found 110 volts on my panel. fortunately my safety breaker was off. I plugged into another pedestal. taped off the bad pedestal and all was good.

Always check the voltage of what your are plugging into.

Fair Winds,

 Eric


rubber Rub Rail gutter

Mike Ondra
 

We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 


Re: Rocker Switch in lights above island counter

Duane Siegfri
 

He does have switches on hand.  1 GBP per switch plus 3.15 GBP shipping for 100 grams or less.  I bought 10 for about $17 total.  If you need one I'll have a few extra.

Duane
Wanderer, SM #477


110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Bill raises a good point. I have seen contractors (even the "best") compromise the integrity of the wiring by using whatever wire is available. That often means inconsistent colors. It is really important to trace all wiring from the source to the load connection point to be sure the wire is correct, and not rely solely on color. I also agree that the white wire is not used when you connect US 240 volts to an EU boat (only the black, red, and green).

I installed an isolation transformer to prevent any mixups on my Amel. It allows me to connect to any power source (US or EU) and still get 230 volts out. Of course, it does not change frequency, which is another issue to check.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:52 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Jamie,
Your reply to Alex may be correct, but could be misinterpreted.
Connecting a EU boat without a transformer to US power:
The US "White" wire is not used from the shore to the boat when wiring a EU boat to US type power. The short answer is that 220VAC 60htz power has 4 wires and a 230VAC 50htz has three wires. The wire NOT used is the white from shore power. If you use the white, you will have problems including electrocution. Go to Photos and search on "shore" then navigate to the shore power wiring diagram.
Refer to this graphic when connecting a EU boat without a transformer to US power. A EU boat with a transformer should wire the transformer according to the specifications supplied by the manufacturer.
Alex's situation is somewhat confused because the wire from the US plug to the transformer is NOT color coded to US schemes, probably because they did not have that wire available, but that is just a guess.
I have seen at least 4 Amels wired incorrectly to US shore power. Most that I have seen disregard the Earth (green/yellow) and connect the Red110 to Blue, the Black 110 to Brown and the White to the boat's Earth (center prong). This will electrocute you when you touch any center prong on an AC outlet in the boat, the AC water pump, any bonding item such as the propeller or zinc...and may kill someone diving to clean your boat.
I hope this helps all who connect their Amels to US type 220VAC 60htz.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 20, 2016 6:07 AM, "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Alexandre, the blue wire goes to the neutral connection. The brown wire goes to the hot, and the green/yellow goes to ground.

I am confused where you indicate that you have US Red or Black going to Blue. Are you sure? In the US the white wire should be your neutral.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Friday, August 19, 2016 12:33 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 
I have 2 shore powers.

The 220 Volt (like every body) and the (optional) 110 Volt going to the (optional) 110 to 220 Volt transformer.

The 220 Volt has 3 wires: Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green
Which are connected to my 50 Amp 125/250 Volt the following way:
US Black (110 Volt) goes to Brown
US Red or Black (110 Volt) goes to Blue
US Green (Ground) goes to Yellow/green
US White is not connected.

All good until there.

Please forgive my ignorance in advance for the coming question:

The110 Volt shore power has 3 wires:
Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green.

I plan on purchasing a 30 Amp 125 Volt socket which has:
Neutral, Hot and Ground

Which cables goes where…
Here is a picture:
http://nikimat.com/shore_ power_plug_125_volt.html

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico





Rocker Switch in lights above island counter

Duane Siegfri
 

I can't seem to find replacement rocker switches for the lights above the island cabinet on my SM #477.  The switch is marked 43.409 and is still being made, but orders from the factory are in lots of 1,000.  


Anybody have a source?


I found a Bavaria Yachts forum where a fellow bought a large lot and has them available.  I'm about to write him to see if he has any left (www.bavaria.info/forum/index.php?topic=1116.0).


Duane

SM #477  Wanderer


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Eric!

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 8/20/16, kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016, 9:23 PM


 









Alexandre, I noticed that you flush your
toilets with fresh water. I you want to make this permanent
you can purchase Jabsco Valve part #37038-1024.

This will take water from your fresh water tank and flush
your toilet. It also has an anti siphon break.
Check it out.
Fair Winds, Eriv SM 376 Kimberlite


















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Capacity AMFA Bilge Pump???

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

If you need a bilge pump for security,  emergency reasons or to qualify for the insurance  look for Honda WX 15 waterpump. Works with fuel and pumps 150 - 1000 liter per minute. If a watertight compartment is flooded you use it from the deck via hatches. 
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel  54 #162







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Datum: 20.08.16 18:46 (GMT+01:00)
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Capacity AMFA Bilge Pump???

 

Thank you Bill!

I have a much better offer from Y Yacht Insurance that looks rather attractive, still some outstanding issues around the fine print
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

eric freedman
 


Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Derrick !!!
Alexandre





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On Sat, 8/20/16, derickgates@comcast.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016, 1:10 PM


 









Alexandre,
I
cannot look for several months because I will not be on the
boat until November.
DerickSM2K#400









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Alexandre,

I cannot look for several months because I will not be on the boat until November.

Derick
SM2K#400


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

Well, still no answer on my question…
Would be nice if the people with the optional 110 Volt converter who have a plug (and have used it) let me know.
May be Amel or Olivier could answer…

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 8/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016, 10:52 AM


 









Jamie,
Your reply to Alex may be correct, but could be
misinterpreted.
Connecting a EU boat without a transformer to
US power:

The US "White" wire is not used from the shore to
the boat when wiring a EU boat to US type power. The short
answer is that 220VAC 60htz power has 4 wires and a 230VAC
50htz has three wires. The wire NOT used is the white from
shore power. If you use the white, you will have problems
including electrocution. Go to Photos and search on
"shore" then navigate to the shore power wiring
diagram.
Refer to this graphic when connecting a EU boat
without a transformer to US power. A EU boat with a
transformer should wire the transformer according to the
specifications supplied by the manufacturer.
Alex's situation is somewhat confused
because the wire from the US plug to the transformer is NOT
color coded to US schemes, probably because they did not
have that wire available, but that is just a guess.
I have seen at least 4 Amels wired incorrectly
to US shore power. Most that I have seen disregard the Earth
(green/yellow) and connect the Red110 to Blue, the Black 110
to Brown and the White to the boat's Earth (center
prong). This will electrocute you when you touch any center
prong on an AC outlet in the boat, the AC water pump, any
bonding item such as the propeller or zinc...and may kill
someone diving to clean your boat.
I hope this helps all who connect their Amels
to US type 220VAC 60htz.
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 20, 2016 6:07 AM,
"James Wendell ms42phantom54@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Alexandre, the blue
wire goes to the neutral connection. The brown wire goes to
the hot, and the green/yellow goes to
ground.
I am confused
where you indicate that you have US Red or Black going to
Blue. Are you sure? In the US the white wire should be your
neutral.
Jamie s/v Phantom Amel
54 #044

On Friday, August 19,
2016 12:33 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



 









I have 2 shore powers.



The 220 Volt (like every body) and the (optional) 110 Volt
going to the (optional) 110 to 220 Volt transformer.



The 220 Volt has 3 wires: Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green

Which are connected to my 50 Amp 125/250 Volt the following
way:

US Black (110 Volt) goes to Brown

US Red or Black (110 Volt) goes to Blue

US Green (Ground) goes to Yellow/green

US White is not connected.



All good until there.



Please forgive my ignorance in advance for the coming
question:



The110 Volt shore power has 3 wires:

Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green.



I plan on purchasing a 30 Amp 125 Volt socket which has:

Neutral, Hot and Ground



Which cables goes where…

Here is a picture:

http://nikimat.com/shore_
power_plug_125_volt.html



Thanks in advance.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico












































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