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Re: Volvo parts

Peter Forbes
 

I think Golden Marine in Poole.

Peter Forbes
Carango
AMLE 54 # 035

On 25 May 2020, at 19:29, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

Could someone recommend where to get Volvo parts online in the UK.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Volvo parts

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi,

 

Could someone recommend where to get Volvo parts online in the UK.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi Jose,

 

We met at the sailing club at Phare Bleu. You need to speak to Stuart, contact him on Iguana on VHF 68.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via groups.io
Sent: 25 May 2020 15:04
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor

 

Unfortunately, the exercise did not go well and, in spite of having proper oil in the system and water circling around, after a few minutes there was a change in sound accompanied by smoke and, after immediately turning off the power the motor seized.  So it seems that this is the end of the road for this motor.   After opening the motor I noticed some burnt wires (those holding the electric wiring)  and realized that the high-pressure pump bearing was shared by the motor, which means I cannot take the motor alone to a shop for possible repair but will have to be the full assembly.
My question is whether anyone has had the motor/high-pressure pump repaired, and, if so, whether anybody knows a good shop in Grenada.
Alternatively, given the 20 years of age of the water maker, I would appreciate a contact on the island that could help me fix the problem.

Thanks a lot in advance

Jose and Magnolia
Ipanema SM2k, 278
Happily stuck in Grenada for at least another month


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Self Insurance

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I am interested in group insurance but not in self insurance.

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good""


On Mon, May 18, 2020, 8:56 AM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is a rough outline of a self insurance or shared risk co-op, that I sent Kent and thought I would share with the group. It was prompted by the hassle I have had with obtaining insurance, the restrictions and expense.  Bill suggested self insuring and just buying liability insurance, however in the event of a total loss, it would be a big financial hit, that I could not afford. However, if I could share that risk with even ten others or better yet many more, it would soften the loss. When you consider how few Amel's have been lost outside of a hurricane zone, the risk seems very low, and yet we need to insure against such a great financial lose.

1. A  LLC. formed
 
2. An administrator and board to accept membership ,assess deposit amount , administer funds and assess claims.
 
3. A one time deposit could be a percentage of agreed fixed value, perhaps 2 or 2.5% ,eg. $200,000 boat would amount to a $5000 deposit into the fund
 
4. Coverage would be for total loss , fixed value minus say 10% deductible. Figuring most owners could absorb some loss ,and insurance companies have deductibles as well. Hurricane zones excluded.
 
5. Perhaps lightning strike coverage , perhaps coverage would be ,replace with new equipment ,minus a 30 % deductible.This would probably be the largest source of loss. May have a surcharge or higher deductible for Florida locations.
 
6. All funds would be in an interest bearing account,if you can find anyone paying interest.
 
7. Upon leaving the group , the owner would receive a 50% refund of his deposit assuming they had no claims. 
 
8. Perhaps a .20% of fixed value annual fee to go to cost of administration .eg. $3000,000. boat x.20% = $600. annual fee
 
Assuming 200 owners/members at average boat value of $300,000 x 2.5 % = $7,500 deposit or $1,500,000.00 in funds.
a $300,000. loss of a boat would break down to a loss of $1,350. for each of the 200 members.
 
This could even work on a smaller scale . If ten owners shared responsibility for loss. $300,000 minus deductible of 10% ,would be $ 270,000.000 divided by ten owners or $27,000 per owner. Its all about spreading the risk.
 
I wonder why no group has formed a risk co-op as yet. Maybe because insurance used to be less restrictive and more reasonably priced .
 
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM 123
Shenanigans
 
 


Re: SM Turnbuckle

 

I would urge everyone to continue to support ACMO. Apparently they received a bad batch of turnbuckles from their supplier. It happens to the best.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:19 AM John Clark via groups.io <biohead=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Gary et al,
   I guess persistence pays off.  I have been in contact with ACMO and after several rounds of photos and engineer directed attempts to "clean" the chrome,  they have agreed to send me replacement turnbuckles provided I send them the ones with the defective chroming for analysis.  We are finalizing the shipping arrangements.  So Gary if you are having the same issue perhaps it is worth it to give them a call.     
       Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Water Island, USVI
  


Re: SM Turnbuckle

John Clark
 

Gary et al,
   I guess persistence pays off.  I have been in contact with ACMO and after several rounds of photos and engineer directed attempts to "clean" the chrome,  they have agreed to send me replacement turnbuckles provided I send them the ones with the defective chroming for analysis.  We are finalizing the shipping arrangements.  So Gary if you are having the same issue perhaps it is worth it to give them a call.     
       Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Water Island, USVI
  


Re: Battery compartment size

Alan Grayson
 

Hi I measure 164 x 56 x 27.5. we have 10 Firefly Oasis batteries and we kept 2 starter batteries and joined them in parallel with the original start battery which keeps us a 13 batteries total. See picture.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
St Lucia


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...>
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery compartment size
 
Can anyone tell me the useable internal dimensions for the battery compartment on the SM 2000 Redline with comfort pack. Ie 12 house batteries and starter.
I'm stuck away from my boat and would like to make some use of this lockdown period. I have rough measurements of 160cm x 54cm x 27cm however the package I have decided on is extremely close to these measurements with no room for error. Cheers. 


Re: Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor

Jose Venegas
 

Unfortunately, the exercise did not go well and, in spite of having proper oil in the system and water circling around, after a few minutes there was a change in sound accompanied by smoke and, after immediately turning off the power the motor seized.  So it seems that this is the end of the road for this motor.   After opening the motor I noticed some burnt wires (those holding the electric wiring)  and realized that the high-pressure pump bearing was shared by the motor, which means I cannot take the motor alone to a shop for possible repair but will have to be the full assembly.
My question is whether anyone has had the motor/high-pressure pump repaired, and, if so, whether anybody knows a good shop in Grenada.
Alternatively, given the 20 years of age of the water maker, I would appreciate a contact on the island that could help me fix the problem.

Thanks a lot in advance

Jose and Magnolia
Ipanema SM2k, 278
Happily stuck in Grenada for at least another month


Re: Getting to St Maarten- New York

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Eric,

I live on St. Maarten and at present the way they want to “see” things happening for people that want to evacuate their boat from St. Maarten is that they will allow people to fly in from abroad as of June 1st, when landend you are supposed to go to your boat and leave within 24 hrs. 
Clearly this idea is conceived by persons clueless about the reality of preparing a boat for large crossings. So I expect a lot of people will protest agains this “arrangement”.

This Island is governed by people that regrettably don’t have the skill-set required for such a task. The effect is that rulings change at a pace hard to keep up with. The ‘randomness” of the rulings is often frustrating as well.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Battery compartment size

Bryce Procter
 

Can anyone tell me the useable internal dimensions for the battery compartment on the SM 2000 Redline with comfort pack. Ie 12 house batteries and starter.
I'm stuck away from my boat and would like to make some use of this lockdown period. I have rough measurements of 160cm x 54cm x 27cm however the package I have decided on is extremely close to these measurements with no room for error. Cheers. 


Re: Getting to St Maarten- New York

eric freedman
 

They might open the airport for commercial traffic early June—let’s see what happens . I should have the new policy for the boats stranded

In St Maarten Monday or Tuesday..

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:02 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten- New York

 

Hi Porter,

Thanks for the offer.

I plan on flying to St Thomas June 1st.

I will either charter a small plane, if I can get into the airport, or a powerboat to take me to St Maarten June 2.

If they will allow me I will haul the boat June 3 and have it surveyed. I will then have insurance. I will have a friend do my food shopping.

We will fuel up and head directly for NY asap.

If you can get to St Thomas, please join us.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten

 

Eric. Can you let me know when you are thinking. I’d love to help you if it works out and you need a hand. 

 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152 (Opua) 

But we’re in Fort Lauderdale 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 

Www.fouribis.net

 

On May 23, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

This is Tom, not sure if the right Tom. 

We have just entered the Chesapeake, having spent 8 days coming up from Puerto Rico. Glad to be back in the US. 

Sorry that Kimberlite remains in limbo. I am not able to help out bringing her up. But let me know about anything else. 

Tom Peacock

Aletes SM 240

 

with its tiny keyboard

 

On May 22, 2020, at 7:36 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I have made a reservation to get to St Thomas June 1st.  I will then be chartering a powerboat to St Maarten.

Once I arrive, I will check all systems and leave the following day.

Is there anyone who would also like to get to St Maarten to rescue their boat? We could share the cost of the trip from St Thomas to St Maarten?

 

Is there anyone trapped in St Maarten who would like to sail back to New York?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Getting to St Maarten- New York

eric freedman
 

Hi Porter,

Thanks for the offer.

I plan on flying to St Thomas June 1st.

I will either charter a small plane, if I can get into the airport, or a powerboat to take me to St Maarten June 2.

If they will allow me I will haul the boat June 3 and have it surveyed. I will then have insurance. I will have a friend do my food shopping.

We will fuel up and head directly for NY asap.

If you can get to St Thomas, please join us.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten

 

Eric. Can you let me know when you are thinking. I’d love to help you if it works out and you need a hand. 

 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152 (Opua) 

But we’re in Fort Lauderdale 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 

Www.fouribis.net



On May 23, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

This is Tom, not sure if the right Tom. 

We have just entered the Chesapeake, having spent 8 days coming up from Puerto Rico. Glad to be back in the US. 

Sorry that Kimberlite remains in limbo. I am not able to help out bringing her up. But let me know about anything else. 

Tom Peacock

Aletes SM 240

 

with its tiny keyboard



On May 22, 2020, at 7:36 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I have made a reservation to get to St Thomas June 1st.  I will then be chartering a powerboat to St Maarten.

Once I arrive, I will check all systems and leave the following day.

Is there anyone who would also like to get to St Maarten to rescue their boat? We could share the cost of the trip from St Thomas to St Maarten?

 

Is there anyone trapped in St Maarten who would like to sail back to New York?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

Jeroen jeltes
 

Thank you Bill.  thank you for good advice . particularly spilling saltwater in the engineroom is never easy to remove/collect and this is where it hurts most.

ref water in bilge lockers; i feel more comfortable with the movable 150L/min pump .

best regards,  Jeroen  


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Jeroen,

If water gets into areas where it should not be, removing the water is the same as any other separate compartment. You need to pump it out. Generally any water in these compartments is minor. I used a "wet vacuum," which was needed for many other projects on my Amel. For instance, anytime I opened any freshwater or saltwater system, I did so with the vacuum hose in hand. This included installing an impeller or rebuilding a pump. My goal was to never allow a single drop of saltwater to escape and fall on anything in the engine room. The absence of rust will repay you 100 times the cost of these precautions when you sell your Amel.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:13 PM Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

dear Bill,   i do understand how the bulkhead system works, with the waterticht compartments,  yet it is not clear to me how to remove water from these compartments, without the aid of a pump.
kind regards,  jeroen ( i do realize the drain function from the showers , you need a lot of water before these start .)


Re: Self Insurance

Porter McRoberts
 

Could not agree more Mark. 
I gave him Bill Rouses number to discuss. Not sure if they called. Seemed like a reasonable approach. 
I’m not the best one to lead this charge, but interested as I’m sure most are in any outcome. 

Porter A54-152


On May 24, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:



On a side note, if others are tired of this thread, there is a great feature in this group where topics can be muted. There is a link at the bottom of each email received.

 

 

Hi Porter,

 

I looked at Novamar when renewing our policy a couple of year ago. They made their entrance into the market by selling mostly west coast sailors policies for Mexico. The agent I use and trusts talked very highly of them. He has written tons of Novamar policies. On other forums they are well recommended. We opted not to use them since their underwriter was wary of Pacific Ocean policies and required a crew of three on passages over 1,000 nm (prior approval required). In addition at the time I looked into them they required a full out-of-water survey less than a year old. This added a substantial amount to the cost of a policy change. Otherwise, their insurance rates were reasonable.

 

My 2 cents – if we are to pursue a group policy, there needs to be a period of enrollment were some rules are waived to encourage sign-up and minimize the cost of change. Also, an understanding Amel owners regularly sail passages over 1,000 nm without the need of crew.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance

 

All. 

I spoke to My insurance agent Rob at Novamar. 

Some of you might know and use them. Specifically they were open to administering the program. They are reinsurers and have been quite capable and responsive in my limited interactions. Additionally they are sailors. Not sure if this would be a way to go. 

 

I am of course interested as well. I think if we’ll done we’d have tremendous interest. 

 

 

Porter A54-152 ibis. 

 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 

Www.fouribis.net



On May 23, 2020, at 10:38 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Because we have had very few responses, we think that the uncertainty and amateurish sound of the initial posts has made people leery, and rightfully so.  Teun (Amelit A54) and Ken (Aquarious SM 2K) have some insurance knowledge and contacts they think might be able to help us out together a workable hybrid plan.  We are taking this discussion private until we have something more concrete to present. If anyone else wants to be in the loop as we discuss options, please let me know by private email.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

Jeroen jeltes
 
Edited

dear Bill,   i do understand how the bulkhead system works, with the waterticht compartments,  yet it is not clear to me how to remove water from these compartments, without the aid of a pump.
kind regards,  jeroen ( i do realize the drain function from the showers , you need a lot of water before these start .)


Re: Self Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

On a side note, if others are tired of this thread, there is a great feature in this group where topics can be muted. There is a link at the bottom of each email received.

 

 

Hi Porter,

 

I looked at Novamar when renewing our policy a couple of year ago. They made their entrance into the market by selling mostly west coast sailors policies for Mexico. The agent I use and trusts talked very highly of them. He has written tons of Novamar policies. On other forums they are well recommended. We opted not to use them since their underwriter was wary of Pacific Ocean policies and required a crew of three on passages over 1,000 nm (prior approval required). In addition at the time I looked into them they required a full out-of-water survey less than a year old. This added a substantial amount to the cost of a policy change. Otherwise, their insurance rates were reasonable.

 

My 2 cents – if we are to pursue a group policy, there needs to be a period of enrollment were some rules are waived to encourage sign-up and minimize the cost of change. Also, an understanding Amel owners regularly sail passages over 1,000 nm without the need of crew.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance

 

All. 

I spoke to My insurance agent Rob at Novamar. 

Some of you might know and use them. Specifically they were open to administering the program. They are reinsurers and have been quite capable and responsive in my limited interactions. Additionally they are sailors. Not sure if this would be a way to go. 

 

I am of course interested as well. I think if we’ll done we’d have tremendous interest. 

 

 

Porter A54-152 ibis. 

 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 

Www.fouribis.net



On May 23, 2020, at 10:38 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Because we have had very few responses, we think that the uncertainty and amateurish sound of the initial posts has made people leery, and rightfully so.  Teun (Amelit A54) and Ken (Aquarious SM 2K) have some insurance knowledge and contacts they think might be able to help us out together a workable hybrid plan.  We are taking this discussion private until we have something more concrete to present. If anyone else wants to be in the loop as we discuss options, please let me know by private email.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

Jeroen jeltes
 

sorry, i never said i made holes in the bulkheads .


Re: Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor

Jose Venegas
 

After major surgery getting the motor/pump out of the engine room (there was no way I could get the back cover out) I found that after turning the motor by hand IT IS WORKING YEEEA!.
So, Mark you were correct. Now I need to get the motor do some excessive (we all s would do that during this COVID19 time) and I will be getting a newer (larger) capacitor next Monday. As usual, fixing one problem on an old boat usually means you break more part. In my case, the low pressure water inlet fitting to the pump broke in peaces when I tried to remove the hose. So, now I have a piece if the fitting inside the pump that I have to remove with a 1/2 in extractor that I have to buy on Monday together with a new fitting. Well that is the way it is, and I am very happy I don’t have to buy a new motor. (at least I hope so). Tomorrow I will know after I make it exercise for a couple of hours.)

Thank you Mark and Amel Group.

Jose and Magnolia
Ipanema SM2k, 278
Happily stuck in Grenada for another month


Re: Self Insurance

Porter McRoberts
 

All. 
I spoke to My insurance agent Rob at Novamar. 
Some of you might know and use them. Specifically they were open to administering the program. They are reinsurers and have been quite capable and responsive in my limited interactions. Additionally they are sailors. Not sure if this would be a way to go. 

I am of course interested as well. I think if we’ll done we’d have tremendous interest. 


Porter A54-152 ibis. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.net

On May 23, 2020, at 10:38 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Because we have had very few responses, we think that the uncertainty and amateurish sound of the initial posts has made people leery, and rightfully so.  Teun (Amelit A54) and Ken (Aquarious SM 2K) have some insurance knowledge and contacts they think might be able to help us out together a workable hybrid plan.  We are taking this discussion private until we have something more concrete to present. If anyone else wants to be in the loop as we discuss options, please let me know by private email.
Kent
SM243
Kristy