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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

eric freedman
 

Gary,

Scroll down there should be an exploded cross section of the actuator.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 1:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

 

 

Hi Eric:

 

I did receive the picture of the actuator and found that it is the same as the one posted in the photos section.  I was hoping perhaps for a mechanical exploded diagram or parts list etc.  Thanks for sending the picture and replying.  When I tear this down I will take some photos and post them along with o-ring sizes etc.

 

Gary  S. Silver

Amel SM#335


Re: Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric:

I did receive the picture of the actuator and found that it is the same as the one posted in the photos section.  I was hoping perhaps for a mechanical exploded diagram or parts list etc.  Thanks for sending the picture and replying.  When I tear this down I will take some photos and post them along with o-ring sizes etc.

Gary  S. Silver
Amel SM#335


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

eric freedman
 

Gary,

The only thing I had to replace on the actuator was the spring which Amel had in stock.

I think you just need an “O” ring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

 

 

I have a slight weep of hydraulic fluid coming from around the end disc of the hydraulic shaft brake actuator (the end that has the adjusting bolt on it).  I am guessing it just needs a new o-ring but I haven't started the process yet.  Functionally it is fine.  

 

Anyone have a diagram of the internal workings of the actuator and more specifically specifications for the internal o-rings, gaskets, or other parts.  Anyone know if Amel has a "kit" with applicable replacement parts?  

 

[I see that Kimberlite attempted to post a diagram but can't find it.  Eric, if you have it and could email it to me at garysilver at mac dot com   I would appreciate it.]

 

Thanks, 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

eric freedman
 

Gary,

I sent the drawing as an additional attachment to you with this email.

Please let me know if you received it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts





I have a slight weep of hydraulic fluid coming from around the end disc of the hydraulic shaft brake actuator (the end that has the adjusting bolt on it). I am guessing it just needs a new o-ring but I haven't started the process yet. Functionally it is fine.



Anyone have a diagram of the internal workings of the actuator and more specifically specifications for the internal o-rings, gaskets, or other parts. Anyone know if Amel has a "kit" with applicable replacement parts?



[I see that Kimberlite attempted to post a diagram but can't find it. Eric, if you have it and could email it to me at garysilver at mac dot com I would appreciate it.]



Thanks,



Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona Amel SM #335





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator BP (low pressure feed pump) Capacitor Rating

eric freedman
 

Gary,

I believe the capacitor on mine is 12.5 mfd.

10mfd is probably what an old 12.5 mfd capacitor would read after 15 years.

I took a regular 12.5 mfd capacitor and mounted it with zip ties to the motor.

I then covered the exposed metal tabs and connectors with heat shrink tubing and then a big gob of silicone sealant to prevent an accidental electrical shock.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator BP (low pressure feed pump) Capacitor Rating

 

 

Hi All:

 

On my last trip the low pressure feed pump for the water maker (BP pump in French parlance) failed to start.  I measure the capacitance on the start/run capacitor in the engine room and found it to be 4 mfd  .  I happen to have a spare Dessalator supplied BP pump that I purchased when the boat was new (15 years ago) and the specification printed on the original capacitor from that pump, as well as measured with my capacitance meter is 10 mfd (microfarads).  I used the capacitor off the new replacement pump to install on the motor that wasn't running and now all is running.  

 

However, I note that Bill Rouse of BeBe fame posted in the photos section a specification of 12 mfd for this capacitor.   After being unable to source a replacement capacitor in the USA that has the mounting stud on the top of it and wire leads, I contacted Dessalator.  Rosyne replied that they do not have the stud mounted capacitors available but also mention that the specification should be 20 mfd 370 volts.   ????  Should it be 10, 12, or 20 mfd,  Does it matter which one?

 

I am pretty good with DC circuits but motors and their run/start capacitors have always been a mystery to me.  Any of our experts out there care to speculate, hypothesize, elucidate the proper specification?

 

Sincerely, 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona  Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina,  Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In Water Hurricane Lay Up

karkauai
 

There's a good yard and lift at Marina Del Rey in Fajardo, PR.  I haven't hauled out for long term or hurricane season, but it's a well run yard.
Biggest issue with leaving her I the water during hurricane season is surge.  I'd want to be in a slip by myself with floating dock and 12-15 ft of piling above high tide.  I've been at Brunswick, GA and Fernandina BeachFL for three seasons.  They haven't had a Class3 hurricane since the 1860s as it's the farthest West Point on the US east coast.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Apr 22, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gray you might want to have a look at Jolly Harbor in Antiqua   It's fully enclosed and they have a lift there too and can put you on the hard for Aug and Sept. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:17, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi all:


For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her.  After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box).  I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the  cost was the same for insurance.  Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].


My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season.  Any caveats?  I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.  


Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc.  I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.


Frank discussion is welcome. 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina  - Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In Water Hurricane Lay Up

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Gray you might want to have a look at Jolly Harbor in Antiqua   It's fully enclosed and they have a lift there too and can put you on the hard for Aug and Sept. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:17, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi all:


For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her.  After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box).  I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the  cost was the same for insurance.  Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].


My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season.  Any caveats?  I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.  


Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc.  I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.


Frank discussion is welcome. 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina  - Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator BP (low pressure feed pump) Capacitor Rating

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

None of the above according to Rosyne in an email to me on 7/27/2012:
"Sir,

The rating is 12.5 Mfrds.

Best regards

Secretary Dessalator
Rosyne Castino"

So should we believe her then, or believe her now?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

Hi All:


On my last trip the low pressure feed pump for the water maker (BP pump in French parlance) failed to start.  I measure the capacitance on the start/run capacitor in the engine room and found it to be 4 mfd  .  I happen to have a spare Dessalator supplied BP pump that I purchased when the boat was new (15 years ago) and the specification printed on the original capacitor from that pump, as well as measured with my capacitance meter is 10 mfd (microfarads).  I used the capacitor off the new replacement pump to install on the motor that wasn't running and now all is running.  


However, I note that Bill Rouse of BeBe fame posted in the photos section a specification of 12 mfd for this capacitor.   After being unable to source a replacement capacitor in the USA that has the mounting stud on the top of it and wire leads, I contacted Dessalator.  Rosyne replied that they do not have the stud mounted capacitors available but also mention that the specification should be 20 mfd 370 volts.   ????  Should it be 10, 12, or 20 mfd,  Does it matter which one?


I am pretty good with DC circuits but motors and their run/start capacitors have always been a mystery to me.  Any of our experts out there care to speculate, hypothesize, elucidate the proper specification?


Sincerely, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona  Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina,  Puerto Rico


Hydraulic Shaft Brake Actuator Overhaul Parts

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I have a slight weep of hydraulic fluid coming from around the end disc of the hydraulic shaft brake actuator (the end that has the adjusting bolt on it).  I am guessing it just needs a new o-ring but I haven't started the process yet.  Functionally it is fine.  


Anyone have a diagram of the internal workings of the actuator and more specifically specifications for the internal o-rings, gaskets, or other parts.  Anyone know if Amel has a "kit" with applicable replacement parts?  


[I see that Kimberlite attempted to post a diagram but can't find it.  Eric, if you have it and could email it to me at garysilver at mac dot com   I would appreciate it.]


Thanks, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335


Dessalator BP (low pressure feed pump) Capacitor Rating

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi All:


On my last trip the low pressure feed pump for the water maker (BP pump in French parlance) failed to start.  I measure the capacitance on the start/run capacitor in the engine room and found it to be 4 mfd  .  I happen to have a spare Dessalator supplied BP pump that I purchased when the boat was new (15 years ago) and the specification printed on the original capacitor from that pump, as well as measured with my capacitance meter is 10 mfd (microfarads).  I used the capacitor off the new replacement pump to install on the motor that wasn't running and now all is running.  


However, I note that Bill Rouse of BeBe fame posted in the photos section a specification of 12 mfd for this capacitor.   After being unable to source a replacement capacitor in the USA that has the mounting stud on the top of it and wire leads, I contacted Dessalator.  Rosyne replied that they do not have the stud mounted capacitors available but also mention that the specification should be 20 mfd 370 volts.   ????  Should it be 10, 12, or 20 mfd,  Does it matter which one?


I am pretty good with DC circuits but motors and their run/start capacitors have always been a mystery to me.  Any of our experts out there care to speculate, hypothesize, elucidate the proper specification?


Sincerely, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona  Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina,  Puerto Rico


In Water Hurricane Lay Up

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi all:


For 13 hurricane seasons I have always hauled my boat and put her on the hard during hurricane season except for one time when I left her in a canal in Ft. Lauderdale Florida (supposedly out of the hurricane box) where I had three hurricanes come within one hundred miles of her.  After that Floridian experience I quickly returned to the Caribbean where I felt safer from hurricanes (inside the hurricane box).  I have not thought of doing an "in-water-layup" until it was mentioned to me by my insurance broker that the  cost was the same for insurance.  Certainly a lot less hassle than hauling out and I am wondering if it would also potentially be safer than on the hard, [I saw pictures of the boats in Spice Island boatyard after Grenada's hurricane Ivan where the boats were toppled because the jack stands were pushed through the hulls of the boats].


My question is: What are other member's thoughts about laying up ashore vs laying up in the water for hurricane season.  Any caveats?  I put Liahona in a cradle on concrete for a number of years but cradle prices are now exorbitant and It always takes me three days on each end of the season to prepare for haul and relaunch.  


Granted haul out allows servicing of various items out of the water (I have never done the service on the bow thruster in the water so that might be a new experience) etc.  I am wondering if there are other issues such as bottom paint longevity, galvanic or stray current corrosion (although I never leave the boat plugged in while in the water except when I am aboard and when the caretaker plugs it in for 6 hours every other week to top up batteries) etc, etc.


Frank discussion is welcome. 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona   Amel SM #335    Puerto Del Rey Marina  - Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Mara Polars

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Agreed that a full PredictWind routing + Grib download takes 5 mins or less on Iridium, provided one has a satellite above the horizon for the entire period.  Otherwise, the connection may be interrupted and a re-do may be necessary.  A heavily pitching boat reduces effective continuous horizon.

We may have experienced one interrupted download out of every five.  On Peregrinus, we have an external Iridium antenna mounted on the starboard rail, opposite the SSB antenna –at the location where the Amel factory originally installed the Furuno GPS antenna.  We tested disconnecting the external antenna, clipping the Iridium GO! to one of te bimini steel posts (on the inside of the Sunbrella) and the rate of failure certainly increased, but not by much... maybe one interrupted download out of every four?  Friends of ours with the Iridium GO! on sloops without external antenna reported about the same performance as ours with the external antenna, so our cockpit's location in between two masts and below a boom may have some small impact.

Since we had the unlimited plan, re-doing downloads was never an issue.  Orbitalsatcom.com will be happy to sell you 1-month minimum unlimited contracts for $132.50, and their SIM cards are free.  We used our GO! unlimited for our Atlantic crossing, then our Channel crossing, and then discontinued service soon after we settled in France and got a local mobile account.

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350
At anchor, Roses (Catalonia)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Mara Polars

eric freedman
 

Paul,

The download time is data which with the iridium plan is unlimited as is text.

The phone time is 120 minutes.

My crew love to be able to use their smart phones to send out text from the ocean.

I can also download any data that I wish. All included in the plan.

The predict wind download is usually about 5 minutes.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:05 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Mara Polars

 

 

Hello! Eric following up on this old thread

When using IridiumGo and Predict wind, how long does it take to download a weather report when crossing an ocean? as the 125$/month in the long run will be rather expensive, a prepaid card with 1000 minutes valid fora year would be roughly 70$/month, or if chosen the 500 minutes the monthly cost will go down further.

Anyone with thoughts on this?

 Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

eric freedman
 

Colin,

In the A/C control box mounted on the A/C unit itself , there are built in timers.

They are small rectangular boxes with a round disk on the top. The disk is calibrated in seconds.

Possibly it is minutes, I do not remember.

One unit should be start immediately the second about 30 seconds later the third a minute..

In this way all the units do not put a load on the electrical system at the same time.

I have mine set up so that the aft cabin starts first.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:22 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

 

 

Colin,

If you can please post photos in the album named Climma. The reason is that all Climma photos will be together. We all need to try to do this. Can you imagine what a mess we will have if we don't.

The capacitors photographed are the fan speed capacitors for the blower. The compressor start capacitor is inside that box and the largest one. Capacitors will become out of spec with no visible signs. You need a meter that reads microfarads to test them (cheap on eBay). These fan speed capacitors and start capacitors have a life of about 6 years, then will get out of tolerance.

It is not clear to me, but I believe that you are saying that your Climma Compact AC units open the circuit breakers after less than a minute. Was the pump outputting water at the bow? Was it a good stream?

The cause of your issue is almost certainly a saltwater pump failure or blockage of the saltwater path from outside the boat to the pump.

I assume that there are no signs of saltwater leaks near the AC pump. Am I correct? The most common cause of pump failure is the electric motor start capasitor which is attached to the motor, sometimes inside a box on the motor. If you do not have a tester, find a replacement from anyplace that sells or services water well pumps or possible 220 volt electric motors.

You said when you start All Three. Try starting just one. If it works, your start capacitor on the pump is likely OK and you have restricted waterflow, but some blockage. Be sure the sea chest filter is clean, the line from the bottom of the sea chest to outside is clean and the hose path from the sea chest to the pump is clean.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 21, 2016 10:05 AM, "colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All

 

I have uploaded some pics on the site of the internal of this Climma fuse box which is located on the port side of engine bay, behind the Onan genset. See here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1588817806

 

Was it the small fuse shown in those pics (located in the black fuse holder shown)? Ours had a handy spare in place however unfortunately, after changing this fuse (it was blown), our three aircons each still start up, run for a while - perhaps 45 seconds then ..... when it senses that the water pump does not start ..... cuts out and cycles trying to start again...

 

I have checked everything else which all looks as new virtually as we haven't ever bothered to run our aircon till now. All the capacitators look to be in perfect shape, also the pump electricals (in box on top of pump) look perfect -  as new -  too, and the pump turns freely with a screw driver inserted as per the manual.

 

Ben, was it that small little fuse which I have shown here that you replaced?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

eric freedman
 

Colin,

Thanks for the pictures, I knew there was a relay box but I did not know where it was.

 

 

Did you check the capacitors of all 3 A/C units with a capacitor checker?

I have found that even though the capacitors look like new they have broken down internally. This leads to slower than normal fan speeds.

I’ll bet if you check all the capacitors you will find a few outside of the allowed tolerance, which is 10%.

I have this one on board.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Meter-Capacitor-UA6013L-Capacitance-Tester-Multimeter-Tester-Checker-/111814076748?hash=item1a08a3694c:g:3PEAAOSw~bFWOCN3

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

 

 

Hi All

 

I have uploaded some pics on the site of the internal of this Climma fuse box which is located on the port side of engine bay, behind the Onan genset. See here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1588817806

 

Was it the small fuse shown in those pics (located in the black fuse holder shown)? Ours had a handy spare in place however unfortunately, after changing this fuse (it was blown), our three aircons each still start up, run for a while - perhaps 45 seconds then ..... when it senses that the water pump does not start ..... cuts out and cycles trying to start again...

 

I have checked everything else which all looks as new virtually as we haven't ever bothered to run our aircon till now. All the capacitators look to be in perfect shape, also the pump electricals (in box on top of pump) look perfect -  as new -  too, and the pump turns freely with a screw driver inserted as per the manual.

 

Ben, was it that small little fuse which I have shown here that you replaced?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Colin:

The normal behavior of the Climma Air Conditioners when not supplied with cooling sea water is to "short cycle".  By short cycling I mean that the AC compressor starts, due to failure of the seawater detects high pressure in the compressor and then shuts down.  It then restarts the process all over again.  This is what your seem to be describing.

As for AGC fuses, (the small cylindrical glass fuses), sometimes they fail even though they appear to be ok.  Test the fuse with an ohm meter to verify continuity.  I have been stung by this "looks ok" issue several times. If it repeatedly blows then you need to figure out why (one answer may be a failed start/run capacitor.

I concur with Bill Rouse that the most likely cause of the Calpeda pump not to start (assuming you have verified that the motor turns freely manually by turning the motor with a blade screwdriver via the hole in the end of the motor housing) is a failed or failing start/run capacitor (it is inside the the box on top of the pump) and is a 10 microfarad (abbreviated mf) capacitor rated at least at 370 Volts AC.  It is not polarity sensitive and any 10 mf capacitor rated at or above 370 Volts will work.  Some capacitors are rated at a given frequency such as 50 hertz or 60 hertz and some are rated at 50/60 hertz.  This has never made much sense to me but try for a dual dated capacitor if you have a choice.  You should be able to get one of these for about 8-15 US$.

Short cycling can be caused by other issues but if the pump isn't running then that is most likely for the behavior your are seeing.

Thanks for the photos.  I have never had that box open so that was very helpful. 

All the best, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona   Amel SM #35    Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



Re: Super Mara Polars

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello! Eric following up on this old thread
When using IridiumGo and Predict wind, how long does it take to download a weather report when crossing an ocean? as the 125$/month in the long run will be rather expensive, a prepaid card with 1000 minutes valid fora year would be roughly 70$/month, or if chosen the 500 minutes the monthly cost will go down further.
Anyone with thoughts on this?
 Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

The fuse was a small glass automotive type in a black fuse holder.  It was very small size and 5 amp rated.  I had no 5 amp so used a 7'amp.  That fuse is what stopped the saltwater pump,from working.  Not sure why is blew but all is well now.  Check your fuse again; if you have a short it may have blown again.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:04 AM, colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All


I have uploaded some pics on the site of the internal of this Climma fuse box which is located on the port side of engine bay, behind the Onan genset. See here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1588817806

 

Was it the small fuse shown in those pics (located in the black fuse holder shown)? Ours had a handy spare in place however unfortunately, after changing this fuse (it was blown), our three aircons each still start up, run for a while - perhaps 45 seconds then ..... when it senses that the water pump does not start ..... cuts out and cycles trying to start again...

I have checked everything else which all looks as new virtually as we haven't ever bothered to run our aircon till now. All the capacitators look to be in perfect shape, also the pump electricals (in box on top of pump) look perfect -  as new -  too, and the pump turns freely with a screw driver inserted as per the manual.

Ben, was it that small little fuse which I have shown here that you replaced?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

If you can please post photos in the album named Climma. The reason is that all Climma photos will be together. We all need to try to do this. Can you imagine what a mess we will have if we don't.

The capacitors photographed are the fan speed capacitors for the blower. The compressor start capacitor is inside that box and the largest one. Capacitors will become out of spec with no visible signs. You need a meter that reads microfarads to test them (cheap on eBay). These fan speed capacitors and start capacitors have a life of about 6 years, then will get out of tolerance.

It is not clear to me, but I believe that you are saying that your Climma Compact AC units open the circuit breakers after less than a minute. Was the pump outputting water at the bow? Was it a good stream?

The cause of your issue is almost certainly a saltwater pump failure or blockage of the saltwater path from outside the boat to the pump.

I assume that there are no signs of saltwater leaks near the AC pump. Am I correct? The most common cause of pump failure is the electric motor start capasitor which is attached to the motor, sometimes inside a box on the motor. If you do not have a tester, find a replacement from anyplace that sells or services water well pumps or possible 220 volt electric motors.

You said when you start All Three. Try starting just one. If it works, your start capacitor on the pump is likely OK and you have restricted waterflow, but some blockage. Be sure the sea chest filter is clean, the line from the bottom of the sea chest to outside is clean and the hose path from the sea chest to the pump is clean.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Apr 21, 2016 10:05 AM, "colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All


I have uploaded some pics on the site of the internal of this Climma fuse box which is located on the port side of engine bay, behind the Onan genset. See here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1588817806

 

Was it the small fuse shown in those pics (located in the black fuse holder shown)? Ours had a handy spare in place however unfortunately, after changing this fuse (it was blown), our three aircons each still start up, run for a while - perhaps 45 seconds then ..... when it senses that the water pump does not start ..... cuts out and cycles trying to start again...

I have checked everything else which all looks as new virtually as we haven't ever bothered to run our aircon till now. All the capacitators look to be in perfect shape, also the pump electricals (in box on top of pump) look perfect -  as new -  too, and the pump turns freely with a screw driver inserted as per the manual.

Ben, was it that small little fuse which I have shown here that you replaced?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air conditioning pump circuit

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi All

I have uploaded some pics on the site of the internal of this Climma fuse box which is located on the port side of engine bay, behind the Onan genset. See here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1588817806

 

Was it the small fuse shown in those pics (located in the black fuse holder shown)? Ours had a handy spare in place however unfortunately, after changing this fuse (it was blown), our three aircons each still start up, run for a while - perhaps 45 seconds then ..... when it senses that the water pump does not start ..... cuts out and cycles trying to start again...

I have checked everything else which all looks as new virtually as we haven't ever bothered to run our aircon till now. All the capacitators look to be in perfect shape, also the pump electricals (in box on top of pump) look perfect -  as new -  too, and the pump turns freely with a screw driver inserted as per the manual.

Ben, was it that small little fuse which I have shown here that you replaced?

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane, Australia