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Re: Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!
We have a new Victron combined charger inverter 70A/3000w, rather new to us, but so fare we are happy with it, we kept our old Dolphine charger, so we can run either or both at the same time, I like the redundancy strategy, we also have solar power 450 watt. next step to add some more solar power and probably a larger alternator on the main engine
Paul on S/Y Kerpsa


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Antonio,

The original design on all Amels for many years is as you describe it, except that you did not mention that the flexible hose is reinforced from the inside with a "PVC type" of pipe. You probably did not notice that.

Just because someone says something should be one way, does not make it right. If I were you, I would trust the original Amel concept.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:37 AM, SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good Morning,
Yes Bill, in my installation there is nothing !! No thru-hull fixed to the portside, only the tube inserted into the hull and sealed (taped) with a lot of silicon and sikaflex.
Probably this happens when the previous owner changed the engine in 2007 BUT the work was followed from VOLVO dealer in Canet en Roussillon !!???!!  I don't know IF this is original concept or so on....but is so far from my safety idea.
Buon Vento
Antonio 
Vagabundo SN 108
Roma

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 06/apr/2016, alle ore 08:06, Bill greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

So there IS a thru-hull fitting, in the standard installation, it is just made of fiberglass.  Nothing wrong with that. Its a good system.

The original poster needs to understand what to look for.  IF he is wrong in his description and the fiberglass insert is missing he has a problem.  


On Apr 5, 2016, at 19:54, joemac4sail@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

This is standard on the santorin and not a pproblem .Ive monitored ours for the last 10 yearsits still the original hose.25years old. As its Supported by a fibreglass sleeve on the inside add the fact that there is no metal reduces corosion and possible damage due to a bang. AMEL ENGINEERING..



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Dom,

My personal experience with Mastervolt is not good. And ViVa has not had good experience either! You should consider buying a Victron charger. I do not have personal experience, but from what I have heard from others, Victron would be my choice. You can always send the Mastervolt in for repair when your location is convenient and when returned, sell it or keep it as a backup.

Do you also have a smaller 230VAC charger? It would be redundancy. Also, you have redundancy with the 175 amp alternator on the Yanmar.

You are very lucky that this happened in Panama!

BTW, BeBe 387, still has the originally installed Dolphin 100 and 30 amp chargers..."knock on wood!"

Galapagos and Marquesas calls you ViVa!

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:24 AM, dominique_guenot@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

S/V Viva #374

Currently in Panama, eager to cross the canal and continue its journey toward the South Pacific


Hello,

The batteries are charging normally with the engine and holding the charges so I excluded a battery problem.

The AC input has been checked and is correct as well, so I excluded an input problem. 


The charger starts properly with ramping up the amp, then in less than 2 min and still in bulk mode the amp declined to 0 and 32.9 V (!?) on the LCD screen. 

Mastervolt  contacted through a dealer gave me a testing procedure which confirms the charger is not working. I am currently waiting to hear back from them about my options.


Hence my questions to this group: 

1-It seems there is no way to reset the charger or to repair on the boat. The only option is to send back to factory with no guaranteed results and certain delays. Is that normal? 

2-An Amel electrician contractor advised me to switch to Victron vs. Mastervolt. However this group seems pretty happy with Mastervolt. So what do you think? 

3-My Mastervolt is looking pretty - I am guessing it is 5 years old. Usage is very moderate at sea, more  constant on shore power - float mode. Is that an expected life span for a charger? 

4-Finally I have currently no charging redundancy. Should I plan one and which charging capacity? 


Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience

Dominique Guenot

S/V Viva

Shelter Bay Marina, Panama





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Stephen Davis
 

Hello Dominique,

I installed a Mastervolt 24/100/3 charger on my SM a little more than a year ago. It failed with the same symptoms as yours near the end of a nine day Passage to Puerto Rico. Mastervolt had me do the same trouble shooting, and we determined the problem was with the charger. In my case, it was under warranty, and Mastervolt USA had a new charger to me in Puerto Rico within 3 days at no cost to me. When I ask how to send the old one back, they told me to just throw it away. Because I hated to throw an almost new and expensive charger away, I brought the charger to an authorized Mastervolt dealer first in the BVI, and then in St Martin to see if I could pay for a repair. Both dealers told me the current Mastervolt policy is to not repair, but to replace broken chargers. If the charger is out of warranty, they have a charge of $300.00 for the replacement. 

If you have an authorized Mastervolt dealer near you in Panama, I would try them first for a replacement unit. If that does not work, contact Mastervolt USA at 800-307-6702 and see if they will send you a new replacement. When I spoke with Mastervolt back in December, they were very helpful in solving my problem. 

With regards to redundancy, Jean Pierre's approach seems good, and is close to the way things were designed by Amel. In my case, I have a spare 80 amp Mastervolt charger which I can change out in about 15 minutes. This approach cost a bit more, but I have full functionality with a spare large charger. 

Good luck solving your current problems, and if I can be of any help, let me know. 

Regards,
Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Currently in Guadeloupe 

On Apr 6, 2016, at 04:24, dominique_guenot@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

S/V Viva #374

Currently in Panama, eager to cross the canal and continue its journey toward the South Pacific


Hello,

The batteries are charging normally with the engine and holding the charges so I excluded a battery problem.

The AC input has been checked and is correct as well, so I excluded an input problem. 


The charger starts properly with ramping up the amp, then in less than 2 min and still in bulk mode the amp declined to 0 and 32.9 V (!?) on the LCD screen. 

Mastervolt  contacted through a dealer gave me a testing procedure which confirms the charger is not working. I am currently waiting to hear back from them about my options.


Hence my questions to this group: 

1-It seems there is no way to reset the charger or to repair on the boat. The only option is to send back to factory with no guaranteed results and certain delays. Is that normal? 

2-An Amel electrician contractor advised me to switch to Victron vs. Mastervolt. However this group seems pretty happy with Mastervolt. So what do you think? 

3-My Mastervolt is looking pretty - I am guessing it is 5 years old. Usage is very moderate at sea, more  constant on shore power - float mode. Is that an expected life span for a charger? 

4-Finally I have currently no charging redundancy. Should I plan one and which charging capacity? 


Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience

Dominique Guenot

S/V Viva

Shelter Bay Marina, Panama




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

eljaroellinghoff@...
 

So I see it. It's just quick to write a review out of frustration. But just when Amel, I find it not justified. What other manufacturer cares for the purchase of spare parts for boats the 25 years and older. And let's face it, you need the very least spare parts immediately. Provided a boat ashore and do the maintenance of the c drive I know it also months in advance

greeting
Elja SM 222
Balu


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Luck might have something to do with it,  but I don't think so, because I am certainly not lucky.

I truly believe that clarity is the key. I have helped a few owners with writing requests to Amel. In each case the problem was clarity to get a response. The response may be that the part requested is not available, but that is understandable for a boat that has been out of production for 25 years.

If you do not know the exact description of the part, include a photo. And, remember that the part you are trying to get Amel to supply may not be the originally installed part if the original owner(s) changed something.

Just the other day in Martinique there was an owner frustrated because Amel supplied him with a SquareD water pump pressure switch (original equipment). He could not understand why Amel would send him this part for a Jabsco fresh water pump. Do you understand the problem?

My wife owned a computer store that built and repaired computers. Sometimes her techs would write on the repair order: PEBKAC which means Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

It is easy to say things could be better, but my experience with Amel is better than my experience with Beneteau and better than 2 close friends with Oyster. I am thankful for that...AND, things can improve on our end of the part purchase request.

I will continue to be the self-appointed advocate of Amel in this forum, and I will remind you that every negative thing that you rightly OR wrongly write in this Yahoo Group is public information...AND, only you can delete your posts.

This Group has been cited as one of the benefits of owning an Amel by new and prospective owners. Please be accurate in your criticism of Amel rather than wishful.

Best,

Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
Currently Martinique

On Apr 6, 2016 01:51, "mkbiz@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am also not very lucky with getting Amel to respond to emails, but calling them on the phone always worked.
Also I did get a response when I google-translated my mail to french ;)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

jjjk12s@...
 

Antonio,

 

This subject has come up before and been answered by Olivier. I just checked it on the search facility and it was last 27th January (2015). Reading that should make it clearer. 

 

John, #91 Maramu, Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Eric,

I am having trouble to visualize… any way you can take picture?

Regarding plastic sleeves, I was told it was not good for the standing rigging and removed most of mines.
What is the Big Cap Stay?

Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 4/5/16, kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 9:23 PM


 









Alexandre,
when we received Kimberlite, that spinnaker
halyard was brought aft of the top stay
and
secured to the ring on the rail and the other end was tied
off to the mid ships cleat and the balance of the line
coiled and tied to the rail. Make sure you have a plastic
sleeve on that part of the stay.
 
Speaking of plastic sleeves,
what have all of you been using for the big cap stay?
 I can not find anything this side of the Atlantic.
Fair Winds,
Eric SM 376 Kimberlte
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:32 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you
attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

>
>
Good afternoon,
>
>
I am a little embarrassed to ask that question:
> My SM2K comes with the optional 3rd Main
mast Halyard
> which you can see page 28
or chapter 7.13 of the Optional Equipment
>
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
>
> I never know where
to attach it.
> Since I don’t like it
hitting the mast, usually I attach to the
> rail, but during the last passage the 35
kt of wind were putting
> lots of
pulling…
>
> For
those who have it, where and how to you secure it.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

>
>
> Sincerely, Alexandre
>
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> Private Slip, Marina
Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic
>










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

I provided charging redundancy by installing a (CB selectable) small second charger… I can have both or either one of the individual units.

Works for me.

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 6 Apr 2016, at 10:45, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I've had a similar issue with my Dolphin 100amp charger, which is the original fitted to my 2008 Amel 54.The problem has been diagnosed as the heat cut out switching in. I plan to increase the ventilation in the engine compartment - my boat is in Greece and the problem is worse in high summer.

Just as an easy check, I suggest you try pointing a big 220V fan at the charger while the charger is switched on - if it then delays or even stops it cutting out, then you have diagnosed the problem. The solution might be more/better ventilation. Good luck anyway. BTW, I'm going to be in Panama for a couple fo weeks from April 12th - let me know if you would like to meet up sometime.

Regards, Tony Robinson
Catriona R Amel 54 #102.



From: "dominique_guenot@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:24 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

 
S/V Viva #374
Currently in Panama, eager to cross the canal and continue its journey toward the South Pacific

Hello,
The batteries are charging normally with the engine and holding the charges so I excluded a battery problem.
The AC input has been checked and is correct as well, so I excluded an input problem. 

The charger starts properly with ramping up the amp, then in less than 2 min and still in bulk mode the amp declined to 0 and 32.9 V (!?) on the LCD screen. 
Mastervolt  contacted through a dealer gave me a testing procedure which confirms the charger is not working. I am currently waiting to hear back from them about my options.

Hence my questions to this group: 
1-It seems there is no way to reset the charger or to repair on the boat. The only option is to send back to factory with no guaranteed results and certain delays. Is that normal? 
2-An Amel electrician contractor advised me to switch to Victron vs. Mastervolt. However this group seems pretty happy with Mastervolt. So what do you think? 
3-My Mastervolt is looking pretty - I am guessing it is 5 years old. Usage is very moderate at sea, more  constant on shore power - float mode. Is that an expected life span for a charger? 
4-Finally I have currently no charging redundancy. Should I plan one and which charging capacity? 

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience
Dominique Guenot
S/V Viva
Shelter Bay Marina, Panama








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

I've had a similar issue with my Dolphin 100amp charger, which is the original fitted to my 2008 Amel 54.The problem has been diagnosed as the heat cut out switching in. I plan to increase the ventilation in the engine compartment - my boat is in Greece and the problem is worse in high summer.

Just as an easy check, I suggest you try pointing a big 220V fan at the charger while the charger is switched on - if it then delays or even stops it cutting out, then you have diagnosed the problem. The solution might be more/better ventilation. Good luck anyway. BTW, I'm going to be in Panama for a couple fo weeks from April 12th - let me know if you would like to meet up sometime.

Regards, Tony Robinson
Catriona R Amel 54 #102.



From: "dominique_guenot@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:24 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

 
S/V Viva #374
Currently in Panama, eager to cross the canal and continue its journey toward the South Pacific

Hello,
The batteries are charging normally with the engine and holding the charges so I excluded a battery problem.
The AC input has been checked and is correct as well, so I excluded an input problem. 

The charger starts properly with ramping up the amp, then in less than 2 min and still in bulk mode the amp declined to 0 and 32.9 V (!?) on the LCD screen. 
Mastervolt  contacted through a dealer gave me a testing procedure which confirms the charger is not working. I am currently waiting to hear back from them about my options.

Hence my questions to this group: 
1-It seems there is no way to reset the charger or to repair on the boat. The only option is to send back to factory with no guaranteed results and certain delays. Is that normal? 
2-An Amel electrician contractor advised me to switch to Victron vs. Mastervolt. However this group seems pretty happy with Mastervolt. So what do you think? 
3-My Mastervolt is looking pretty - I am guessing it is 5 years old. Usage is very moderate at sea, more  constant on shore power - float mode. Is that an expected life span for a charger? 
4-Finally I have currently no charging redundancy. Should I plan one and which charging capacity? 

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience
Dominique Guenot
S/V Viva
Shelter Bay Marina, Panama





Mastervolt 24/100-3 suddenly not charging

Dominique Guenot
 

S/V Viva #374

Currently in Panama, eager to cross the canal and continue its journey toward the South Pacific


Hello,

The batteries are charging normally with the engine and holding the charges so I excluded a battery problem.

The AC input has been checked and is correct as well, so I excluded an input problem. 


The charger starts properly with ramping up the amp, then in less than 2 min and still in bulk mode the amp declined to 0 and 32.9 V (!?) on the LCD screen. 

Mastervolt  contacted through a dealer gave me a testing procedure which confirms the charger is not working. I am currently waiting to hear back from them about my options.


Hence my questions to this group: 

1-It seems there is no way to reset the charger or to repair on the boat. The only option is to send back to factory with no guaranteed results and certain delays. Is that normal? 

2-An Amel electrician contractor advised me to switch to Victron vs. Mastervolt. However this group seems pretty happy with Mastervolt. So what do you think? 

3-My Mastervolt is looking pretty - I am guessing it is 5 years old. Usage is very moderate at sea, more  constant on shore power - float mode. Is that an expected life span for a charger? 

4-Finally I have currently no charging redundancy. Should I plan one and which charging capacity? 


Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience

Dominique Guenot

S/V Viva

Shelter Bay Marina, Panama




Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

mkbiz@...
 

I am also not very lucky with getting Amel to respond to emails, but calling them on the phone always worked.
Also I did get a response when I google-translated my mail to french ;)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

antonio scipioni
 

Good Morning,
Yes Bill, in my installation there is nothing !! No thru-hull fixed to the portside, only the tube inserted into the hull and sealed (taped) with a lot of silicon and sikaflex.
Probably this happens when the previous owner changed the engine in 2007 BUT the work was followed from VOLVO dealer in Canet en Roussillon !!???!!  I don't know IF this is original concept or so on....but is so far from my safety idea.
Buon Vento
Antonio 
Vagabundo SN 108
Roma

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Il giorno 06/apr/2016, alle ore 08:06, Bill greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

So there IS a thru-hull fitting, in the standard installation, it is just made of fiberglass.  Nothing wrong with that. Its a good system.

The original poster needs to understand what to look for.  IF he is wrong in his description and the fiberglass insert is missing he has a problem.  


On Apr 5, 2016, at 19:54, joemac4sail@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

This is standard on the santorin and not a pproblem .Ive monitored ours for the last 10 yearsits still the original hose.25years old. As its Supported by a fibreglass sleeve on the inside add the fact that there is no metal reduces corosion and possible damage due to a bang. AMEL ENGINEERING..


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Excuse my lack of knowledge, could also be a language problem ...
What is a "cap stay"?

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila,
SM232, 1998


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6 apr. 2016 kl. 04:23 skrev kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Alexandre,
when we received Kimberlite, that spinnaker halyard was brought aft of the top stay
and secured to the ring on the rail and the other end was tied off to the mid ships cleat and the balance of the line coiled and tied to the rail. Make sure you have a plastic sleeve on that part of the stay.
 
Speaking of plastic sleeves,
what have all of you been using for the big cap stay?  I can not find anything this side of the Atlantic.
Fair Winds,
Eric SM 376 Kimberlte
 
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From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:32 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard
To: amelyachtowners@...

>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I am a little embarrassed to ask that question:
> My SM2K comes with the optional 3rd Main mast Halyard
> which you can see page 28 or chapter 7.13 of the Optional Equipment
> http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
>
> I never know where to attach it.
> Since I don’t like it hitting the mast, usually I attach to the
> rail, but during the last passage the 35 kt of wind were putting
> lots of pulling…
>
> For those who have it, where and how to you secure it.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Sincerely, Alexandre
> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

Bill <greatketch@...>
 

So there IS a thru-hull fitting, in the standard installation, it is just made of fiberglass.  Nothing wrong with that. Its a good system.

The original poster needs to understand what to look for.  IF he is wrong in his description and the fiberglass insert is missing he has a problem.  


On Apr 5, 2016, at 19:54, joemac4sail@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

This is standard on the santorin and not a pproblem .Ive monitored ours for the last 10 yearsits still the original hose.25years old. As its Supported by a fibreglass sleeve on the inside add the fact that there is no metal reduces corosion and possible damage due to a bang. AMEL ENGINEERING..


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

joseph mc donnell
 

This is standard on the santorin and not a pproblem .Ive monitored ours for the last 10 yearsits still the original hose.25years old. As its Supported by a fibreglass sleeve on the inside add the fact that there is no metal reduces corosion and possible damage due to a bang. AMEL ENGINEERING..


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Of course a seacock isn’t needed for an engine exhaust hose.  But a fitting mechanically attached to the hull is!  The original poster described a hose just glued into a hole in the hull.  If that is the way it was originally installed I would be SHOCKED.

That is just such a bad idea…




On Apr 5, 2016, at 11:38, jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


If you put a seacock on the exhaust outlet you have a big problem if it is left closed by accident and the engine started. It is correct to rely on the gooseneck of the exhaust and water trap and not have a seacock.

 

John Popeye Maramu  #91




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] where do you attach the (optional) 3rd Main mast Halyard

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine exaust Santorin Vagabundo

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

No thru hull fitting????  Just a hose glued into a hole in the hull??  That's how I understood the description. 



On Apr 5, 2016, at 12:39, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Vagabundo

It is not strange and dangerous, it is the way Amel builds it. Don't worry.

Bill
BeBe 387 Currently Martinique

On Apr 5, 2016 14:01, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Olivier,
in according with your inspection I checked the exhaust muffler output and I found a very strange (and dangerous) solution:
the exhaust tube coming from the silencer were connected directly to the hull without seacock or thru-hull, around the tube only a lot of black sika.
Which is the original system ?
I think this happened when the previous owner changed the engine.
I send you and to the yahoo owners some pics.
Br
Antonio

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

You blame Amel for being slow. I read your order email to Amel that you posted in your Facebook rant about Amel, and could not understand what you wanted. You even said in your email, "...maybe I want..." and used American slang for nautical terms...and sent no photos.

Send me an email of what you want, and I will write an email for you including photos.

Our previous boat was a Beneteau. Our very close friend has an Oyster. Neither of those companies knows the specific parts included in a build 1 year old and you criticize Amel because they cannot read your mind on what you "maybe" want on a 28 year old boat, when you cannot accurately describe the part and you do not include a photo.

Send me an email and I will write your order, "maybe."

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Martinique

On Apr 5, 2016 16:48, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Having to find somebody who was there 25 years ago to figure out what parts were originally fited to a boat sounds...well...seems to me that there ought to be a better way for our benefit and Amels.


I wish i was at the boat and i could take pictures.  A picture database would be great for ordering parts.  Maybe i'll have my team in india put something together.