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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

Rick Grimes
 

Bill: I found an unidentifiable device on the Moondog photo album. A piece that appears to wrap around the shaft with two bolts on the side and four bolts above. I assume the four bolts are tightened to press against the motor and push the shaft down? Thanks!
Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

A follow-up note on my sea-chest issue.  I just heard from the diver who found my lid without difficulty and when he installed it on the sea-chest he reports that there was no evidence of water coming out of the sea-chest, so it looks like my sea-cock did not leak.  Yahoo!! (I mean the exclamation type not the web site name.

Thanks for everyone's help. 

Gary
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

Rick Grimes
 

First, congratulations on your circumnavigation. The spouses on Aloha and Rascal are especially in awe of Judy!

Second, Aloha is anchored next to Why Not from Cambridge who apparently just finished the ARC as well.

Third, back to business: would you agree it is the spline that is corroded into place? Also, I can't find the photo of the special tool. Can you point me to that photo?

Thanks!
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Congratulations Bill and Judy_AUTOHELM

Giovanni TESTA
 

...thanks so much Bill. I hope to met you soon sailing Caribbean waters ;-)  !
BV
Gianni

Il 02/02/2016 16:39, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 
Gianni,

Response = 5
Rudder = 7
Wind - we used the win vane option and it worked well. We have NMEA input from B&G Hydra to the Raymarine Autohelm

Bill

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Giovanni Testa gtesta23@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,
first, our congratulation for circumnavigation !...we are on the way crossing the Indian Ocean to SA, next May/June.
I'm very curious about your experince with autohelm setup (resp/rudder/wind) with rolly sailing and swell.
All the best
Buon Vento
Marina&Gianni
sv EUTIKIA

Il 01/02/2016 19:29, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 
Next time you take the Genoa down, have a look at it. It's a simple spring-loaded arm that is opened as the mouse that raises the sail goes under it and then locks under the notch in the mouse.
To lower the sail raise the mouse that doesn't have a notch.  It raises the spring-loaded arm and unlocks the one holding the head of the sail, then comes down easily as there is no notch to catch the arm.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Aras Grinius n33077@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Glad y'all made it across the pond safely.  Once you bring the boat back to Texas, will you go again?....Kidding.
Congrats to the both you for chronicling Amel's, your trip, and most of all being inspirational to the rest of us.

Quick question regarding the mouse clip.  Any chance you have a picture of what that looks like. I asked Amel and seem confused about what I was asking about.

Regards,

Aras
Sharki #163
Re: Bow thruster

Rick Grimes
 

BTW. The bow thruster issue is S/V Rascal SM2k #404. Thanks for your help.

Rick Grimes
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

There is a tool designed by Amel that will separate the tube from the motor.If they are stuck together, you have had salt water blow past the seals and probably have not used the locking pin. Search the Photo section for "thruster" and you will find the tool. I think any machine shop will be able to make one for you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:26 PM, rickgrimes1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Out of the water (at Bobbies in St Martin--Dutch side) and trying to detach my bow thruster from the motor. Won't budge. The four Allen set screws have been removed. Supposedly supposed to drop straight down at this point. Banged, pulled, pushed. Most think the bow thruster shaft and bearings were contaminated with salt water and is the reason the prop is frozen. Suspecting the salt and corrosion throughout and up to the spline--freezing the spline in place. would normally use penetrating oil to help release it from the motor but can't access it. Ideas? Thoughts?
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Congratulations Bill and Judy_AUTOHELM

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gianni,

Response = 5
Rudder = 7
Wind - we used the win vane option and it worked well. We have NMEA input from B&G Hydra to the Raymarine Autohelm

Bill

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Giovanni Testa gtesta23@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,
first, our congratulation for circumnavigation !...we are on the way crossing the Indian Ocean to SA, next May/June.
I'm very curious about your experince with autohelm setup (resp/rudder/wind) with rolly sailing and swell.
All the best
Buon Vento
Marina&Gianni
sv EUTIKIA

Il 01/02/2016 19:29, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 
Next time you take the Genoa down, have a look at it. It's a simple spring-loaded arm that is opened as the mouse that raises the sail goes under it and then locks under the notch in the mouse.
To lower the sail raise the mouse that doesn't have a notch.  It raises the spring-loaded arm and unlocks the one holding the head of the sail, then comes down easily as there is no notch to catch the arm.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Aras Grinius n33077@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Glad y'all made it across the pond safely.  Once you bring the boat back to Texas, will you go again?....Kidding.
Congrats to the both you for chronicling Amel's, your trip, and most of all being inspirational to the rest of us.

Quick question regarding the mouse clip.  Any chance you have a picture of what that looks like. I asked Amel and seem confused about what I was asking about.

Regards,

Aras
Sharki #163
Re: Congratulations Bill and Judy_AUTOHELM

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Bill,
first, our congratulation for circumnavigation !...we are on the way crossing the Indian Ocean to SA, next May/June.
I'm very curious about your experince with autohelm setup (resp/rudder/wind) with rolly sailing and swell.
All the best
Buon Vento
Marina&Gianni
sv EUTIKIA

Il 01/02/2016 19:29, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 
Next time you take the Genoa down, have a look at it. It's a simple spring-loaded arm that is opened as the mouse that raises the sail goes under it and then locks under the notch in the mouse.
To lower the sail raise the mouse that doesn't have a notch.  It raises the spring-loaded arm and unlocks the one holding the head of the sail, then comes down easily as there is no notch to catch the arm.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Aras Grinius n33077@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Glad y'all made it across the pond safely.  Once you bring the boat back to Texas, will you go again?....Kidding.
Congrats to the both you for chronicling Amel's, your trip, and most of all being inspirational to the rest of us.

Quick question regarding the mouse clip.  Any chance you have a picture of what that looks like. I asked Amel and seem confused about what I was asking about.

Regards,

Aras
Sharki #163
Bow thruster

Rick Grimes
 

Out of the water (at Bobbies in St Martin--Dutch side) and trying to detach my bow thruster from the motor. Won't budge. The four Allen set screws have been removed. Supposedly supposed to drop straight down at this point. Banged, pulled, pushed. Most think the bow thruster shaft and bearings were contaminated with salt water and is the reason the prop is frozen. Suspecting the salt and corrosion throughout and up to the spline--freezing the spline in place. would normally use penetrating oil to help release it from the motor but can't access it. Ideas? Thoughts?
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you so much Gary for your explanation. Really appreciate.

Hope we meet at some point!

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Tue, 2/2/16, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2016, 8:39 AM


 









Hi Alexandre:
Yes I believe that is true about the
engine possibly overheating if it ran very long at all but
usually it isn't running that long.  What I do is fill
the sea-chest to top with fresh water then have my wife
start the given engine and immediately turn on the full
force of the water.  Usually within about 15 seconds the
water level will fall to the level of the outlet of the sea
chest to the engines and we then shut down the engine.  I
repeat this three or four times for each engine.  A bit of
wear and tear on the starting of the engine but I don't
dare allow it to run without a full stream of water filling
the engine sea water pump.  I am guessing that as long as
some water is traversing the engine impellers they are
lubricated and ok but I am not sure so I have taken to the
run/shut down routine.
I can tell you that if the water
level falls too low in the sea-chest while flushing the
Calpeda pump it becomes very noisy and starts to squeal.
 Therefore I do the same there with starting and stopping
the AC a few times as soon as the flush water can't keep
up. 
Gary
Silvers/v LiahonaAmel SM #335









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Alexandre:

Yes I believe that is true about the engine possibly overheating if it ran very long at all but usually it isn't running that long.  What I do is fill the sea-chest to top with fresh water then have my wife start the given engine and immediately turn on the full force of the water.  Usually within about 15 seconds the water level will fall to the level of the outlet of the sea chest to the engines and we then shut down the engine.  I repeat this three or four times for each engine.  A bit of wear and tear on the starting of the engine but I don't dare allow it to run without a full stream of water filling the engine sea water pump.  I am guessing that as long as some water is traversing the engine impellers they are lubricated and ok but I am not sure so I have taken to the run/shut down routine.

I can tell you that if the water level falls too low in the sea-chest while flushing the Calpeda pump it becomes very noisy and starts to squeal.  Therefore I do the same there with starting and stopping the AC a few times as soon as the flush water can't keep up. 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM #335
Re: Onan Cranks But Won't Start

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Dear All:  

Now that I have better bandwidth I have posted three photos of the carbon buildup on my Onan exhaust manifold/exhaust elbow.  I placed these in the photo album created by BeBe about the ONAN.  As I think I mentioned the genset ran fine when we put Liahona on the hard for the hurricane season and upon re-splashing there was slow cranking and failure to start. 

I plan on inspecting/cleaning this item every 500 hrs of operation.  I also plan on doing the same on my Yanmar as it now has almost 1,200 hrs on it. 

Sincerely, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM #335 
Currently at Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo, Puerto Rico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Gary,
Glad to help regarding the sea chest lid.

So, if full force water can not keep up with the genset nor engine, aren’t they going to overheat and do more bad than good?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, TCI



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On Tue, 2/2/16, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2016, 7:22 AM


 









Thanks to all who helped with your info, pictures,
specifications and comforting words relative to my recent
sea-chest lid problem. 
The discussion has evolved a bit but
here are my observations:
When flushing my systems with fresh
water I have always used dock or yard water directed at full
force into the open sea-chest.  In my current slip I have
unbelievable water pressure.  With one exception, I have
never been able to keep up with the demand of the Calpeda or
March AC pumps or the Onan or 75 hp Yanmar engines.  No
problem keeping up with the demand of the head pumps and I
long ago did away with the sea water anchor wash down pump
and changed to a fresh water  anchor wash (Joel's
friend, Ray Eaton, now deceased, installed that for me in
Ft. Lauderdale).
The
exception I noted above, was when I once found I was able to
keep up with the Yanmar throughput.  I next checked the
Yanmar impeller and found I was missing three vanes.  So
being able to evaluate how much water is being consumed from
the sea-chest is a diagnostic aid about the health of your
impellers for the engines and other sea water consuming
accessories. 
Thanks
again all, 
Gary
Silvers/v LiahonaSM 2000
#335Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto
Rico









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Congratulations Bill and Judy

karkauai
 

Hi Bill.  Congrats on your whirl around the globe!
I was answering Aras' question about a pic of the mouse clip.
Kent


On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:01 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I have looked at it numerous times. I always check it and its operation before crossing oceans by lowering the Genoa to the deck. The issue is the potential for dissimilar metal corrosion that was "solved" by a rigger. I de-solved his solution by removing the rubber on the clip.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Next time you take the Genoa down, have a look at it. It's a simple spring-loaded arm that is opened as the mouse that raises the sail goes under it and then locks under the notch in the mouse.
To lower the sail raise the mouse that doesn't have a notch.  It raises the spring-loaded arm and unlocks the one holding the head of the sail, then comes down easily as there is no notch to catch the arm.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Aras Grinius n33077@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Glad y'all made it across the pond safely.  Once you bring the boat back to Texas, will you go again?....Kidding.
Congrats to the both you for chronicling Amel's, your trip, and most of all being inspirational to the rest of us.

Quick question regarding the mouse clip.  Any chance you have a picture of what that looks like. I asked Amel and seem confused about what I was asking about.

Regards,

Aras
Sharki #163
Re: SM Sea Chest Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks to all who helped with your info, pictures, specifications and comforting words relative to my recent sea-chest lid problem. 

The discussion has evolved a bit but here are my observations:

When flushing my systems with fresh water I have always used dock or yard water directed at full force into the open sea-chest.  In my current slip I have unbelievable water pressure.  With one exception, I have never been able to keep up with the demand of the Calpeda or March AC pumps or the Onan or 75 hp Yanmar engines.  No problem keeping up with the demand of the head pumps and I long ago did away with the sea water anchor wash down pump and changed to a fresh water  anchor wash (Joel's friend, Ray Eaton, now deceased, installed that for me in Ft. Lauderdale).

The exception I noted above, was when I once found I was able to keep up with the Yanmar throughput.  I next checked the Yanmar impeller and found I was missing three vanes.  So being able to evaluate how much water is being consumed from the sea-chest is a diagnostic aid about the health of your impellers for the engines and other sea water consuming accessories. 

Thanks again all, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] After 1 year Velox Anti-fouling propeller paint still great!

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I had the same favorable results with Velox.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 4:57 PM, alainfeuillet@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
I have been using also this special antifooling Velox on my propeller for the past 4 years in the Med. Not perfect because after two years I get one or two barnacles but no vegetals and excellent adherence. Surely the best I have found.
Alain (SM PILGRIM)
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weight/displacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Amel states on the SM Brochure that the Loaded Displacement is 16 tons. Somewhere I found Loaded Weight at: 38,368 lbs. 

I am not sure of the definition of Loaded Weight.  Bill

BeBe 387

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:07 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

When I splashed in Puerto Rico a couple of weeks ago, my SM #335 showed 20,000 lbs on the travel lift meters.  That was with 400 liters of water and full 600 liters of diesel. This included a small RIB on the back deck and a 9.9 hp Mercury outboard and two bicycles in the garage.  No baggage or personnel on board. Can't attest to how accurate the travel lift meters were.  With the slings positioned just forward of the keel and at the aft lift points the boat was balanced with 10,000 lbs on each sling. 


Gary Silver   
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000  #335
Re: Weight/displacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

When I splashed in Puerto Rico a couple of weeks ago, my SM #335 showed 20,000 lbs on the travel lift meters.  That was with 400 liters of water and full 600 liters of diesel. This included a small RIB on the back deck and a 9.9 hp Mercury outboard and two bicycles in the garage.  No baggage or personnel on board. Can't attest to how accurate the travel lift meters were.  With the slings positioned just forward of the keel and at the aft lift points the boat was balanced with 10,000 lbs on each sling. 

Gary Silver   
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000  #335
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu second headsail

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Alessandro,

Are you sure you want a staysail?
I have one on mine (SM2K #289 NIKIMAT) was installed by the previous owner, and honestly aside for when the bow pulpit was removed following a collision, I rarely use it.
I last did 2 month ago and it doesn’t allow to sail significantly closer.

Plus the major inconvenient is that you will have to furl the genoa to tack.
So think about all of that before you make your decision.

If you really want one, may be you can get mine.
I am currently in Turks & Caicos.
Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Island



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On Mon, 2/1/16, agennai@mac.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu second headsail
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2016, 7:29 PM


 









Hi friends,I,m
considering to install a second headsail on my GRAND CRU
Supermaramu 2k redline #443; I guess it could be useful both
in downwind (using the two headsails with the two poles )
and in  up wind (when the wind increases). Of course I have
a lot of doubts about installation and I'm asking you
some suggestions, draws or pictures about it. Moreover now
I'm in Caribe and folks told me that the best place to
do this project is in martinica (Le Marin - Caribe Marine)
Do you have any experience about those
guys?Thanks for your
helpAlessandroGRAND
CRU









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Excite the Leece-Neville 24VDC 175amp Alternator

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

I have the light, mine is white.
Good information !!!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos



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On Tue, 2/2/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Excite the Leece-Neville 24VDC 175amp Alternator
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2016, 5:14 AM


 









This is "exciting"
news! I do not remember seeing a discussion on this.
I had trouble today getting
the Leece-Neville 24VDC 175amp Alternator
"excited" and charging. The only thing that worked
was to rev the engine to about 2400 RMP...then it would
charge and stay excited.
The problem was a burned-out red
warning light on the lower left 24VDC panel. It is somehow
wired in series with the excite wire to the Leece-Neville
24VDC 175amp Alternator. I am not sure how many SM's
have this light, but if you do, the solution to
non-excitement is to change the bulb.
Remember to check this bulb
before you remove the alternator and take it to a
shop.
BillBeBe 387










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