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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

Trevor Lusty
 

Hi Richie,
               Fair winds with your new boat. I registered my SM in Drogheda, they happily accepted the plate screwed onto the wooden frame beneath the floor locker.
Be aware that Irish registration of a foreign flagged vessel lying overseas is a very complex process and difficult to achieve ,as the department of the marine require a survey from someone nominated on their list, most of whom will have no interest in travelling anywhere as there isn't enough money in it for them.
You can get her registered in Ireland if one of the official  ports of entry will accept her on their list providing you give them proof that she actually exists, is VAT paid and you own the majority of the 64 shares.
It took me nine months back in 2007 and lots of patience and time.
If I can help you at all ping me  @ gmail.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Former owner
Seafever of Cuan
SM425
Cork
Ireland


Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Paul,

Yes, and they have been recently updated. I sent you an email on how to update your book.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:13 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

Are these instructions in your book?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 13 May 2020 15:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Marco,

 

I sent you an email with the instructions you need.

 

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:55 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:

Dear Paul and Arno, 

thanks for your usefull  info. 

Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor  (  the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe  seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel.

cheers 

Marco 

SM Desiree , Italy , Naples



Il giorno 13 mag 2020, alle ore 00:09, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> ha scritto:

 

I just got replacements from here:

 

 

They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.ioOn Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. 
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks 
marco 
Italy SM304 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

Brent Cameron
 

Hello Richie. Congratulations on your new Super Maramu (Why Knot, formerly Guma) and welcome to the Amel Owner’s group!  There is an Amel Owner’s Registry used by owners to contact each other. It is only found from within the Amel Owner’s Forum and we don’t post links to it outside of that - it is really only used so that owners can contact each other and owners can decide how much information (or if at all) they would like published in it. For your convenience, I have attached the link to the Registry (https://tinyurl.com/AmelRegistry) and the update form (https://tinyurl.com/AmelRegistryUpdate).   If you would like your new boat on this list, use the later link and I will add it according to your preferences. Thanks and welcome to the Registry!

Brent

--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Richie,

The location you selected would not be my first choice, as (at least on our boat) that side of the bulkhead is covered in the same vinyl material as the headliner.  No doubt you could drill through it, but it makes more sense to me to mount it directly to wood.  If you want to go ahead with this plan, that bulkhead appears to be about 25mm thick.
IMG_20200514_094644.jpg
There's a large wooden beam directly under the mainmast, which I assume hides the compression post.  It's 17 cm wide, with a bit of a radius at the corner.  A 15 cm plate might just fit on the flat part.  I'd see if you can put it there, tucked up close to the bottom of the electrical panel (to the right of our fire extinguisher in the photo).  I can't hazard a guess as to how thick the wood is.

Another likely spot is forward of the head door, directly under the hatch.  That bulkhead is about 15 mm thick.
IMG_20200514_094701.jpg

Yet another option might be the shelf above the forward hanging locker.  It's pretty far outboard, so I'm not sure if it meets the requirement of "directly under the mast".  There's enough space for the plate in between the two doors on our boat.  If you want to hide it behind the door to the saloon, it will fit there too.  The front face of the shelf is about 18 mm thick.
IMG_20200514_095542.jpg

I hope this is helpful, and I also hope the dimensions on your boat are the same as ours.  This was a fun little diversion while I'm on conference calls.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:04 AM Richie Whyte <richiewhyte@...> wrote:
Hi Eric
She is being registered in Ireland. She was previously registered in the UK but with the UK leaving the EU we wanted to protect her EU VAT paid status and we couldn't get a straight answer from anyone so it made sense to move the registration.

Richie


Richie Whyte
Why Knot
SM2K#261


Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

Are these instructions in your book?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 13 May 2020 15:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Marco,

 

I sent you an email with the instructions you need.

 

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:55 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:

Dear Paul and Arno, 

thanks for your usefull  info. 

Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor  (  the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe  seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel.

cheers 

Marco 

SM Desiree , Italy , Naples



Il giorno 13 mag 2020, alle ore 00:09, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> ha scritto:

 

I just got replacements from here:

 

 

They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.ioOn Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. 
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks 
marco 
Italy SM304 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

Richie Whyte
 

Hi Eric
She is being registered in Ireland. She was previously registered in the UK but with the UK leaving the EU we wanted to protect her EU VAT paid status and we couldn't get a straight answer from anyone so it made sense to move the registration.

Richie


Richie Whyte
Why Knot
SM2K#261


Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

eric freedman
 

Hi,

In what country is the boat being registered?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richie Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:10 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

 

Hi Folks,

I’m a recent SM purchaser and as part of my boat registration procedure I need to attach a stainless steel plate (10cm x15cm) etched with the registration details to the bulkhead under the mast. On a Super Maramu - sight unseen I’m figuring the best location for ease of access and minimal visual impact is above the door from the front cabin to the saloon - on the front cabin side. 

 

I can't access the boat at the moment to take measurements as she is in Greece and I'm in Ireland (coronavirus..no flights) but I have a local who is willing to attach the plate for me if I send him all the parts & fixings.

 

I have a simple question but I would really appreciate an answer. 

 

What length stainless steel wood screws should I use to attach the 1mm thick plate securely without causing damage from bulging/poking through the bulkhead?

 

Kind regards

 

R.

 

 

 

Richie Whyte

Why Knot

SM2K#261


Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length

Richie Whyte
 

Hi Folks,

I’m a recent SM purchaser and as part of my boat registration procedure I need to attach a stainless steel plate (10cm x15cm) etched with the registration details to the bulkhead under the mast. On a Super Maramu - sight unseen I’m figuring the best location for ease of access and minimal visual impact is above the door from the front cabin to the saloon - on the front cabin side. 

 

I can't access the boat at the moment to take measurements as she is in Greece and I'm in Ireland (coronavirus..no flights) but I have a local who is willing to attach the plate for me if I send him all the parts & fixings.

 

I have a simple question but I would really appreciate an answer. 

 

What length stainless steel wood screws should I use to attach the 1mm thick plate securely without causing damage from bulging/poking through the bulkhead?

 

Kind regards

 

R.

 

 

 

Richie Whyte

Why Knot

SM2K#261


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Ian Townsend
 

Same as that on LLII. But sorry,  no specs. 



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
Date: 2020-05-13 18:03 (GMT-05:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Hi Ryan, it is identical to what we have on Ocean Pearl

Kind Regards

Danny 

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 14 May 2020 at 08:21 Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

That's certainly possible, but I thought I've seen others like it on other SMs, and it has the same non-skid as the top of the engine.  I've attached a photo.  Does that look custom to you?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:05 PM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
I believe that your stainless muffler was probably fabricated by a previous owner.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ryan Meador < ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

 

 

 

 


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ryan, it is identical to what we have on Ocean Pearl

Kind Regards

Danny 

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 14 May 2020 at 08:21 Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

That's certainly possible, but I thought I've seen others like it on other SMs, and it has the same non-skid as the top of the engine.  I've attached a photo.  Does that look custom to you?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:05 PM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
I believe that your stainless muffler was probably fabricated by a previous owner.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ryan Meador < ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

 

 

 

 


FW: [AmelYachtOwners] TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

amelforme
 

Hi Ryan and Kelly. All early Amel Super Maramu boats had stainless steel mufflers and the one in the picture of your boat is indeed original equipment. The change to Vetus plastic occurred when the Yanmar was made standard equipment.

 

The change was made to Vetus primarily to get a reduction in engine room noise. The plastic Vetus mufflers “pant/expand and contract” as each cycle of raw cooling water is injected into and blown out of the muffler which makes the woosh-woosh sound that is heard at the exhaust exit on the hull side, The vetus mufflers were wedged in with a layer of plastic foam on each side and tied into position, This allowed them to wiggle around with no hard contact areas that muffler could make music with. The other advantage of the Vetus is they are non-corrosive and last almost forever. The major disadvantage is that the Vetus will melt rather quickly if it does not get the raw water cooling supply as it comes out of the diesel’s cooling system.

 

I had a client down here who wanted to replace the stainless one with a exact copy as Amel didn’t have spares. The fabricator cut the bottom off and was able to see the details he needed.  $ 700 in 2001 and the guy who did it has retired .

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel        

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan Meador
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:30 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

 

Hi all,

 

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Ryan,

Early SM’s had SS mufflers; mine has...

A good SS person can cut into it and replicate the unit. I had my new one made in NZ

GOOD luck 

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera,SM 007


On 14/05/2020, at 7:30 AM, Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:


Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: water pressure regulator adjustment

 

That's original. I don't have any info. I think I would eliminate it, although it would be convenient to keep the pressure gauge. I think modern pumps regulate pressure good enough. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:19 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our boat has a device in the fresh water system just after the pump (photos attached) that I think is a pressure regulator.  It reads "Caleffi Mod Dep Cartridge With Filter".  I can't find an exact match online.  There's one old thread on this list that mentions it, and the owner thought it was an aftermarket addition.  It looks like it's original on at least some hulls!

Our water pressure has been slowly dropping for a couple months.  I suspect this regulator needs adjustment, or its integrated filter needs cleaning.  Do these things go out of calibration after a while?  Does anyone know how to open it to clean the filter?  I'd rather not twist the adjustment screw until I know more about it.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

 

No. That is original, but I thought I remembered the PO fabricating a SS muffler. My mistake. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:21 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

That's certainly possible, but I thought I've seen others like it on other SMs, and it has the same non-skid as the top of the engine.  I've attached a photo.  Does that look custom to you?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:05 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I believe that your stainless muffler was probably fabricated by a previous owner.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Bill,

That's certainly possible, but I thought I've seen others like it on other SMs, and it has the same non-skid as the top of the engine.  I've attached a photo.  Does that look custom to you?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:05 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I believe that your stainless muffler was probably fabricated by a previous owner.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


water pressure regulator adjustment

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

Our boat has a device in the fresh water system just after the pump (photos attached) that I think is a pressure regulator.  It reads "Caleffi Mod Dep Cartridge With Filter".  I can't find an exact match online.  There's one old thread on this list that mentions it, and the owner thought it was an aftermarket addition.  It looks like it's original on at least some hulls!

Our water pressure has been slowly dropping for a couple months.  I suspect this regulator needs adjustment, or its integrated filter needs cleaning.  Do these things go out of calibration after a while?  Does anyone know how to open it to clean the filter?  I'd rather not twist the adjustment screw until I know more about it.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

 

I believe that your stainless muffler was probably fabricated by a previous owner.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


TMD22 stainless steel muffler diagrams?

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

Our stainless muffler has started to rust out, and I'd like to replace it while I'm also replacing the turbo and mixing elbow.  I'd rather not go with the plastic Vetus that seems to be the go-to; I really like the step.  I'm considering having a new one fabricated.  To that end, does anyone have technical drawings of the internal structure of this muffler?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive

PAOLO CUNEO
 

Bill, Ulrich, Eric,
Thank you very much for your immediate help and the ensuing focus which enabled me to “unlock” the maintenance operations at the yard
Best to you all
Paolo
SM 454 Whisper

Inviato da iPad


Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?

 

I don't know, but I can guess.

I think Amel used that same "mechanical furl" gearbox with some vertical electric furling motors (later model 54 main furler). This may be the reason the drain holes were taken away.
image.png

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:50 AM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Hi all,

In the great document by Gary Silver about the overhaul of the SM Mizzen furler gearbox (thanks Arno for sending us a low bandwidth friendly version), it is mentioned that the bottom part of the gearbox housing is drilled with 2 holes that are used to both unscrew that part (with great efforts) and drain the gearbox of liquids. 

As our gearbox got stiffer recently, I removed it and it appears that those 2 holes are not through openings.. thus not acting as drains. And the gearbox was full of rainwater up to the attachment bolts. Arno tells me he saw the same. 
So the teflon bushing got very dirty and stiff with all sorts of deposits. 

Does anybody know why the drains are no longer machined through? Is it an A54 “innovation”? 
It doesn’t really make sense and I’m thinking of drilling those holes all the way through to reinstate the drain. Any word of advice against that idea?

Thanks for your input

Best, 


Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahuata, French Polynesia