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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Alexander,

Because of longer, far longer life for a 24 V fan operating at 12 V.

GL

JPG
Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 20:50, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Update:

Looking at the owner manual, I just saw the engine, in addition to the intake fan, has also an extraction fan FASCO 24 Volt 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815
http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans.html

Engine on, I noted it was not working and likely the cause of the warmer engine room.

With a Volt Meter I checked current was going to it and it did: measured 13 Volt.
It seems normal as the owner manual says so…

Does someone know why this “24 Volt” FASCO 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815 is connected to a 12 volt connection?

Olivier?
Joel?
Bill? Anyone?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic

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On Wed, 4/27/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 10:54 AM


Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or
genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment
via a wireless temperature sensor. 

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time
(mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few
occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase;
when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition
permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C
and so on. 
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the
generator melting at 50*C. 

Note:  the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco
35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine
is ON). 

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be
partially blocked? 
Is there another fan I am forgetting about? 


Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over
46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Retractable bow thrusters

eric freedman
 

Bill,

Me too !

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:22 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Retractable bow thrusters

 

 

Eric,

The questions were posted from a someone who is not an Amel owner, and does not understand Amels. In fact he joined our group to learn more. The original posting from him was an honest question and he received numerous answers.

The problem I had with the thread is that the original poster continued the thread with "what ifs" and even suggestions of design changes.

I believe you understand.

It was a non-issue to begin with.

Fortunately this non-owner and member of the group joined our group to learn more about Amels and possibly buy one someday. This has happened more times than I can count. It normally is beneficial to everyone. I think this thread got out of hand and some of us contributed.

We have to remember that everything we write here is searchable by Google searches. Parts of that thread theorized negatively about Amel designs. The theory was unfounded, but when read by a novice, a novice may believe that "Amel Owners" are not satisfied and are redesigning...also unfounded and not true.

I love my Amel bow thruster!

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 27, 2016 1:35 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Joel,

I really do not understand all the comments about a leaking bow thruster. As you said if the bow thruster is correctly maintained it will not leak. We left Santa Marta Colombia for Guadeloupe. We spent 11 days beating in 35- 45 knots gusting over 50.

When we got to Guadeloupe, not a drop of water in the bilge.

Kimberlites bilge is as dry as the day they delivered her in 2002.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Retractable bow thrusters

 

 

Hi Francisco and it always makes me happy to know you and Odette are really enjoying the cruising lifestyle on your beautiful PEREGRINUS. It does not seem like 3 ½ years since I sold her to you. Time goes faster for me with each year left behind, but life is good.

 

It’s blowing 15 MPH here in Lake Placid (Florida) so I am filling a sports cup with an adult beverage and going out to sail my Laser until sunset. The best way to get exercise, and sore!

 

All The Best To You Both, Joel   

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Retractable bow thrusters

 

 

Hi Joel !

 

Our bow thruster has been rock-solid reliable since we bought Peregrinus 3.5 years ago.  

 

We got a few drops of water leakage from September 2012 to March 2014, but you sure told us that this was not normal in early 2014, so we got the seals replaced again, and we've been leak free, as in zero drops, for over two years now.

 

Cheerio,

 

Peregrinus

SM2K No. 350 / 2002

Docked at Port Vendres (Languedoc-Rousillon) 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Based on no fresh water pump activity and fresh water it has to be either a rain water hatch leak or you have fresh water stored that is leaking. Good luck. Please let us know when you find it. The leak that is. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Apr 27, 2016, at 17:56, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Joël,


Thank you for the pointer.  I looked at that too but there are no leaks anywhere in the fresh water system..The pressure pump can be left on for 24 hours without any pressure drop… stays at 2.5 bar (+- 35 psi)…

Its’ mechanical … but what???


Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Apr 2016, at 22:00, Joel Potter jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP. On the early SM's, I have seen the supply lines to the shower and sometimes to the basin develops small leaks that. Of course, get worse.

Good hunting!

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Derick,


Freshwater…

We filled our water this morning… (clutching at straws)  

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 17:23, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP,


Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400






Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

amelforme
 

The engine room fan that operates when the propulsion diesel is running runs off the 24 volt alternator. Fire up your Yanmar and check the voltage then. It has been my experience that the 24 volt DC extractor fails well before the 220 volt extractor that is run from the Onan when it is producing 220 volts. Non scientific opinion but pretty much proven by my experiences.

Hope your extractor fan fires up on 24 volts!

Joel 
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Update:

Looking at the owner manual, I just saw the engine, in addition to the intake fan, has also an extraction fan FASCO 24 Volt 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815
http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans.html

Engine on, I noted it was not working and likely the cause of the warmer engine room.

With a Volt Meter I checked current was going to it and it did: measured 13 Volt.
It seems normal as the owner manual says so…

Does someone know why this “24 Volt” FASCO 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815 is connected to a 12 volt connection?

Olivier?
Joel?
Bill? Anyone?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/27/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 10:54 AM


Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or
genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment
via a wireless temperature sensor. 

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time
(mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few
occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase;
when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition
permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C
and so on. 
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the
generator melting at 50*C. 

Note:  the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco
35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine
is ON). 

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be
partially blocked? 
Is there another fan I am forgetting about? 


Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over
46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

It receives it's power from the 12VDC Starting circuit.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 27, 2016 7:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Update:

Looking at the owner manual, I just saw the engine, in addition to the intake fan, has also an extraction fan FASCO 24 Volt 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815
http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans.html

Engine on, I noted it was not working and likely the cause of the warmer engine room.

With a Volt Meter I checked current was going to it and it did: measured 13 Volt.
It seems normal as the owner manual says so…

Does someone know why this “24 Volt” FASCO 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815 is connected to a 12 volt connection?

Olivier?
Joel?
Bill? Anyone?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/27/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 10:54 AM


Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or
genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment
via a wireless temperature sensor. 

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time
(mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few
occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase;
when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition
permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C
and so on. 
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the
generator melting at 50*C. 

Note:  the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco
35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine
is ON). 

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be
partially blocked? 
Is there another fan I am forgetting about? 


Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over
46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Joël,

Thank you for the pointer.  I looked at that too but there are no leaks anywhere in the fresh water system..The pressure pump can be left on for 24 hours without any pressure drop… stays at 2.5 bar (+- 35 psi)…

Its’ mechanical … but what???


Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Apr 2016, at 22:00, Joel Potter jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP. On the early SM's, I have seen the supply lines to the shower and sometimes to the basin develops small leaks that. Of course, get worse.

Good hunting!

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Derick,


Freshwater…

We filled our water this morning… (clutching at straws)  

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 17:23, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP,


Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400






Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

karkauai
 

Hi Alex,
I'm pretty sure there's an output fan, too.  I believe it is in the forward/port corner of the engine room.
Kent



From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

 

Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment via a wireless temperature sensor.

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time (mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase; when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C and so on.
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the generator melting at 50*C.

Note: the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco 35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine is ON).

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be partially blocked?
Is there another fan I am forgetting about?

Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over 46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

amelforme
 

JP. On the early SM's, I have seen the supply lines to the shower and sometimes to the basin develops small leaks that. Of course, get worse.

Good hunting!

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Derick,


Freshwater…

We filled our water this morning… (clutching at straws)  

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 17:23, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP,


Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

karkauai
 

I know that if you overfill your fresh water tanks, water will accumulate in the salon/galley area bilge.  Guess how I know that (:
I don't think there's any way for that water to get to the aft cabin, so if it's fresh water, it has to be a leaking pipe/hose (which would cause your fresh water pump to cycle) or rain water ingress through the port lights (windows) or the opening where the cables come in from the mizzen.  Has it been raining?  Did you wash the boat?
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

 
Hi Derick,

Freshwater…

We filled our water this morning… (clutching at straws)  

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 17:23, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
JP,

Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Update:

Looking at the owner manual, I just saw the engine, in addition to the intake fan, has also an extraction fan FASCO 24 Volt 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815
http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans.html

Engine on, I noted it was not working and likely the cause of the warmer engine room.

With a Volt Meter I checked current was going to it and it did: measured 13 Volt.
It seems normal as the owner manual says so…

Does someone know why this “24 Volt” FASCO 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815 is connected to a 12 volt connection?

Olivier?
Joel?
Bill? Anyone?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic




--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 4/27/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 10:54 AM


Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or
genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment
via a wireless temperature sensor. 

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time
(mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few
occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase;
when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition
permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C
and so on. 
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the
generator melting at 50*C. 

Note:  the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco
35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine
is ON). 

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be
partially blocked? 
Is there another fan I am forgetting about? 


Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over
46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Thanks Stephen,

Opened the hatch and …nope… all ok here.

JP



On 27 Apr 2016, at 15:36, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi JP,

Is the water on the floor in the passage way? Salt or fresh water? We did have the handle of the toilet water intake under the floor start leaking, and then break off in my hand. 

Steve
Aloha SM72
Martinique

On Apr 27, 2016, at 09:27, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Greetings Gang,


Our beauty sprung a new one on us between yesterday and today.  We have water showing up in the passage between the berths in the AFT cabin.  


As we did sea trials yesterday and again today.. and the boat was completely water tight, I began my search with the rudder post compression fitting. (Dry)


Followed up by looking in the access point in front of the aft heads... small amount of water.. dark brown with enough sand to indicate a Sahara provenance... quite reasonable due to our reseal of the mizzen mast...


We had many cosmetic changes done in our cabin but its doubtful the people would have bored a hole to attach the new furniture... we also sailed from Turkey with no water in this area.


Who has an idea... quite perplexing really... no water under the bed either.


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007




Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Harken Bell

Leopold Hauer
 

Hello to the forum,

 

Does  anyone know where we can get a HARKEN  B130 small bell socket?

 

The dealer told us at the boat fair that they wouldn't produce it any more and it also doesn't show in the Harken catalogue.

 

Fair winds,

Leo

Yin Yang

SM 69


[Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning,

May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine or genset I monitor the temperature of the engine compartment via a wireless temperature sensor.

I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the time (mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a few occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.
The temperature in the engine room, will gradually increase; when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea condition permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to 45*C and so on.
“My” reason to do this is because of component from the generator melting at 50*C.

Note: the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco 35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when engine is ON).

Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be partially blocked?
Is there another fan I am forgetting about?


Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes over 46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Derick,

Freshwater…

We filled our water this morning… (clutching at straws)  

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 Apr 2016, at 17:23, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

JP,


Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400




Re: Unknown water entry.

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

JP,

Is it freshwater or salt water that you found?

Derick

SM2K #400


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem

karkauai
 

Hi Steve.  If there is a light on the panel that indicates when the BT is fully up or down, there is a sensor sending that signal.  On Kristy these sensors are integral to the worm drive.  It's a PITA to get it out, but undoubtedly that's where your problem lies.  It sounds to me like it could be both mechanical and electrical.

Let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The older bow thrusters like the one on my hull #72 do not have any sensors. I suspect it is something mechanical, but not sure what. I'm sure someone out there must have experienced this problem, and can shed some light on it. 

Steve Davis
Aloha #72
Currently in Martinique

On Apr 27, 2016, at 08:14, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Bob,

Sorry about your problem…
This reminds me what happened to me October 2014
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html
Looks to me a problem with the sensors that slide, but since my vessel is from 2000 they could be different.
Please keep up posted and good luck…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/27/16, Bob Parry ra.parry2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 7:04 AM


 









Hi all,

We have just encountered
the following problem with our bow thruster. The thruster is
DOWN. When we engage the "up" switch, it
immediately gives the signal that the thruster is up and
nothing happens. When we engage the "down" switch,
the piston spins, causing the wire to become twisted. We
have yet to dismantle it but it appears as though there is a
mechanical problem with a worm drive and maybe an electrical
problem. Has anybody encountered a similar problem? We have
the original Bison bow thruster from 1990. (Apologies for
not doing a search before writing this email.

Bob and Ann Parry
"Nowornot", Amel Supermaramu
#33
Brisbane











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

karkauai
 

Hi JP.
First question is did you taste it to confirm salty or fresh water?  
Do you have a thru-hull for the aft head in the short passageway between the aft hanging locker and the aft head?  Did you ck the hose connections at the fill pump and at the head?
Water could get in around the port lights (windows) in the aft cabin, or through the opening where the mizzen electrical cables enter the cabin roof, but that would likely be rain water, not sea water.
If it is fresh water, check all fresh water hoses going to the lavatory and shower fixtures.  Also look at the overflow drain for the AC condensate...it should drain to the shower drain.  If that is stopped up and you are running the AC, it could be draining under the shower sole.
I've never had a drop of water there. Please let us know what you find.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy 


On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:27 AM, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Greetings Gang,


Our beauty sprung a new one on us between yesterday and today.  We have water showing up in the passage between the berths in the AFT cabin.  


As we did sea trials yesterday and again today.. and the boat was completely water tight, I began my search with the rudder post compression fitting. (Dry)


Followed up by looking in the access point in front of the aft heads... small amount of water.. dark brown with enough sand to indicate a Sahara provenance... quite reasonable due to our reseal of the mizzen mast...


We had many cosmetic changes done in our cabin but its doubtful the people would have bored a hole to attach the new furniture... we also sailed from Turkey with no water in this area.


Who has an idea... quite perplexing really... no water under the bed either.


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown water entry.

Stephen Davis
 

Hi JP,

Is the water on the floor in the passage way? Salt or fresh water? We did have the handle of the toilet water intake under the floor start leaking, and then break off in my hand. 

Steve
Aloha SM72
Martinique

On Apr 27, 2016, at 09:27, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Greetings Gang,


Our beauty sprung a new one on us between yesterday and today.  We have water showing up in the passage between the berths in the AFT cabin.  


As we did sea trials yesterday and again today.. and the boat was completely water tight, I began my search with the rudder post compression fitting. (Dry)


Followed up by looking in the access point in front of the aft heads... small amount of water.. dark brown with enough sand to indicate a Sahara provenance... quite reasonable due to our reseal of the mizzen mast...


We had many cosmetic changes done in our cabin but its doubtful the people would have bored a hole to attach the new furniture... we also sailed from Turkey with no water in this area.


Who has an idea... quite perplexing really... no water under the bed either.


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem

Stephen Davis
 

The older bow thrusters like the one on my hull #72 do not have any sensors. I suspect it is something mechanical, but not sure what. I'm sure someone out there must have experienced this problem, and can shed some light on it. 

Steve Davis
Aloha #72
Currently in Martinique

On Apr 27, 2016, at 08:14, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Bob,

Sorry about your problem…
This reminds me what happened to me October 2014
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html
Looks to me a problem with the sensors that slide, but since my vessel is from 2000 they could be different.
Please keep up posted and good luck…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/27/16, Bob Parry ra.parry2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 7:04 AM


 









Hi all,

We have just encountered
the following problem with our bow thruster. The thruster is
DOWN. When we engage the "up" switch, it
immediately gives the signal that the thruster is up and
nothing happens. When we engage the "down" switch,
the piston spins, causing the wire to become twisted. We
have yet to dismantle it but it appears as though there is a
mechanical problem with a worm drive and maybe an electrical
problem. Has anybody encountered a similar problem? We have
the original Bison bow thruster from 1990. (Apologies for
not doing a search before writing this email.

Bob and Ann Parry
"Nowornot", Amel Supermaramu
#33
Brisbane











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Unknown water entry.

jgermain@...
 

Greetings Gang,


Our beauty sprung a new one on us between yesterday and today.  We have water showing up in the passage between the berths in the AFT cabin.  


As we did sea trials yesterday and again today.. and the boat was completely water tight, I began my search with the rudder post compression fitting. (Dry)


Followed up by looking in the access point in front of the aft heads... small amount of water.. dark brown with enough sand to indicate a Sahara provenance... quite reasonable due to our reseal of the mizzen mast...


We had many cosmetic changes done in our cabin but its doubtful the people would have bored a hole to attach the new furniture... we also sailed from Turkey with no water in this area.


Who has an idea... quite perplexing really... no water under the bed either.


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007