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Updated Event: Tentative ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning - Saturday, 13 February 2021 #cal-invite

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Tentative ZOOM - Jimmy Cornell - Pacific Voyage Planning

When:
Saturday, 13 February 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Organizer: Bill Rouse BROUSE@... 4093563221

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

Jimmy Cornell is joining our group again for another Ocean passage briefing. This event will be the Pacific Voyage Planning. The Atlantic Voyage Planning meeting we had in October has been viewed by over 800 Amel Owners and Amel enthusiasts.

Jimmy Cornell has influenced the contemporary cruising scene more than any other sailor. An accomplished sailor, public speaker, and author, he has sailed over 200,000 miles in all oceans of the world including three circumnavigations as well as voyages to Antarctica and the Northwest Passage.

Thousands of sailors have fulfilled their dream of blue water cruising with the help of Jimmy Cornell’s books, among them the international bestseller World Cruising Routes. Now in its 8th edition, and with over 200,000 copies sold to date, this is one of the best selling nautical publications in the world.

As the founder of the highly successful ARC transatlantic rally, Jimmy Cornell is credited with having devised the offshore cruising rally concept. In the last four decades, Jimmy Cornell has organized 38 transatlantic rallies, five round the world rallies, and one round the world race, with over 3,000 boats and 15,000 sailors having participated in his sailing events.

From my perspective, the first Jimmy Cornell seminar that Judy and I attended was after we had sailed most of the world and had over 20 years of sailing experience. We learned a lot!

We are very pleased that Jimmy has taken time out of his very busy schedule to give a special ZOOM presentation to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. I encourage you to RSVP soon for this meeting.

Zoom Meeting:
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83903104618?pwd=SUF5Q0g4TjJRUFRuMlZpTU43TnFEUT09

Meeting ID: 839 0310 4618
Passcode: 536562
 
Youtube Live:


Re: Heater installed by factory Amel 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Craig I’m in bed at home working this week.  Back on Trippin Saturday hopefully setting sail for St Thomas on Sunday 
Cheers 


On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...> wrote:

So, Courtney, it's going down to 41° F / 5°C tonight in Brunswick!  Brrr.
Give it a try and it will:
1 - clear and burn out any dust in the burner and ducts,
2 - freshen up the diesel fuel in the pump and supply line
3- scare the livin' bejeezus out of any critters having moved into the intake plenum (I had a hive of paper wasps that stunck like crazy for days but cleared up).
Or, as someone said, "use it or lose it".
Of course I'm sure you're comfy with the reverse cycle A/C and at the dock the diesel exhaust is not acceptable, but occasional running is good.
Cheers, Craig
--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Heater installed by factory Amel 54

Craig Briggs
 

So, Courtney, it's going down to 41° F / 5°C tonight in Brunswick!  Brrr.
Give it a try and it will:
1 - clear and burn out any dust in the burner and ducts,
2 - freshen up the diesel fuel in the pump and supply line
3- scare the livin' bejeezus out of any critters having moved into the intake plenum (I had a hive of paper wasps that stunck like crazy for days but cleared up).
Or, as someone said, "use it or lose it".
Of course I'm sure you're comfy with the reverse cycle A/C and at the dock the diesel exhaust is not acceptable, but occasional running is good.
Cheers, Craig
--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Heater installed by factory Amel 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Eric I do but have never used it.
Cheers 🥂 
Courtney 
svTrippin 
54#101
Brunswick 


On Jan 5, 2021, at 6:45 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi ,

Does anyone in the group have a heater installed by the factory in an Amel 54?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Heater installed by factory Amel 54

eric freedman
 

Hi ,

Does anyone in the group have a heater installed by the factory in an Amel 54?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: Amel Maramu Jib sail halyard snapped

Dennis Johns
 

Hi Ben,

I think the main halyard idea is your best solution at this time.  What you are missing is two spinnaker halyards that should be running to the top of the mast.  While you are up repairing the jib halyard, take a couple of suitable blocks and attach them onto the loop at the top front of the masthead.  Run suitable lines for spinnaker halyards through them.  Now you not only have a spare halyard to go to the top of the mast (spinnaker halyard #1), but you will also have a safety line (spinnaker halyard #2).

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:43 PM Benjamin Thibault <benjaminfthibault@...> wrote:
The main mast halyard passes through the mast and is attach to a metal railing around 5 feet from the bottom of the mast where the rope ends with no spare to give.

So to us that solution, i need to attach another rope to it and pull it up around the top of the mast and use that solution. 

So we come to the same conclusion. 

I just wanted to ask around to know if I was missing something before getting into this job. 

Thx

Ben

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:38 PM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
How about dropping the mainsail and using that halyard?


On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Benjamin Thibault <benjaminfthibault@...> wrote:



Good afternoon Amel community. I’ve purchased an amel Maramu 46 and slowly learning the basics of it. While sailing yesterday the jib sail halyard snapped and I need to replace it. 

My problem is this. I just realized they are no spare halyard to pull someone on top of the mast to do the necessary fix. The only solution I see for now is attaching another temporary rope to the mainsail halyard and try to use it to create a temporary halyard to bring someone up the main mast to make the necessary repair to add a new halyard to the jib sail. 

Before getting into this endevour, I wanted to ask the community if they have any other idea??? Cause I’m lost for word that they are no spare halyard on the mast. 

Thx
Ben 
Bon Edda 
Amel Maramu 202


Re: Prop is spinning freely

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

We have a ZF-25 2.0 transmission, the service manual states:

3.5
Sailing or moving in tow
Rotation of the propeller while the boat
is sailing, being towed, or anchored in a
river, as well as operation of the engine
with the propeller stopped (for charging
the battery), will have no detrimental effects
on the gearbox.
IMPORTANT
When the boat is sailing (engine
stopped), the gear lever must be in zero
pos-ition. Never put the gear lever in the
pos-ition corresponding to the direction
of travel of the boat.
Locking the propeller shaft by an additional
brake is not required: use the gear
lever position opposite your direction of
travel for this purpose.

Hope this helps until you can get the break repaired.  Reference page 33 of the attached manual.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Temp Sensors

 

I really like the Blue Sea 1841 M2.

I would place the last one on the transmission, not the C-Drive.

Please send me photos of the installation to brouse@...

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:22 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
I recently bought and installed the Blue Sea 1841 M2 temp sensor. I feel like this data is so important that I removed one of my passive VHF speakers in the cockpit and placed it facing me.

Question to the group- There are 4 sensors that can be used. I've placed them 1) on engine muffler inlet, 2) on genset muffler inlet, 3) on 100 amp charger (lost one due to ambient heat), and 4.....yet to be decided. My battery bank has sensors already. Any ideas or modifications to my initial placements would be appreciated.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Amel Maramu Jib sail halyard snapped

Benjamin Thibault
 

The main mast halyard passes through the mast and is attach to a metal railing around 5 feet from the bottom of the mast where the rope ends with no spare to give.

So to us that solution, i need to attach another rope to it and pull it up around the top of the mast and use that solution. 

So we come to the same conclusion. 

I just wanted to ask around to know if I was missing something before getting into this job. 

Thx

Ben

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:38 PM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
How about dropping the mainsail and using that halyard?


On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Benjamin Thibault <benjaminfthibault@...> wrote:



Good afternoon Amel community. I’ve purchased an amel Maramu 46 and slowly learning the basics of it. While sailing yesterday the jib sail halyard snapped and I need to replace it. 

My problem is this. I just realized they are no spare halyard to pull someone on top of the mast to do the necessary fix. The only solution I see for now is attaching another temporary rope to the mainsail halyard and try to use it to create a temporary halyard to bring someone up the main mast to make the necessary repair to add a new halyard to the jib sail. 

Before getting into this endevour, I wanted to ask the community if they have any other idea??? Cause I’m lost for word that they are no spare halyard on the mast. 

Thx
Ben 
Bon Edda 
Amel Maramu 202


Re: Amel Maramu Jib sail halyard snapped

Kevin Schmit
 

How about dropping the mainsail and using that halyard?


On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Benjamin Thibault <benjaminfthibault@...> wrote:



Good afternoon Amel community. I’ve purchased an amel Maramu 46 and slowly learning the basics of it. While sailing yesterday the jib sail halyard snapped and I need to replace it. 

My problem is this. I just realized they are no spare halyard to pull someone on top of the mast to do the necessary fix. The only solution I see for now is attaching another temporary rope to the mainsail halyard and try to use it to create a temporary halyard to bring someone up the main mast to make the necessary repair to add a new halyard to the jib sail. 

Before getting into this endevour, I wanted to ask the community if they have any other idea??? Cause I’m lost for word that they are no spare halyard on the mast. 

Thx
Ben 
Bon Edda 
Amel Maramu 202


Amel Maramu Jib sail halyard snapped

Benjamin Thibault
 

Good afternoon Amel community. I’ve purchased an amel Maramu 46 and slowly learning the basics of it. While sailing yesterday the jib sail halyard snapped and I need to replace it. 

My problem is this. I just realized they are no spare halyard to pull someone on top of the mast to do the necessary fix. The only solution I see for now is attaching another temporary rope to the mainsail halyard and try to use it to create a temporary halyard to bring someone up the main mast to make the necessary repair to add a new halyard to the jib sail. 

Before getting into this endevour, I wanted to ask the community if they have any other idea??? Cause I’m lost for word that they are no spare halyard on the mast. 

Thx
Ben 
Bon Edda 
Amel Maramu 202


Temp Sensors

Thomas Kleman
 

I recently bought and installed the Blue Sea 1841 M2 temp sensor. I feel like this data is so important that I removed one of my passive VHF speakers in the cockpit and placed it facing me.

Question to the group- There are 4 sensors that can be used. I've placed them 1) on engine muffler inlet, 2) on genset muffler inlet, 3) on 100 amp charger (lost one due to ambient heat), and 4.....yet to be decided. My battery bank has sensors already. Any ideas or modifications to my initial placements would be appreciated.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Prop is spinning freely

 

Thanks for that, Danny. I was told the same thing by Yanmar. However, I am reluctant to repeat it because I assume it will depend on the transmission installed on the engine. And to further confuse the issue Volvo and probably others have moved to electric gear changing transmissions which I assume require the ignition to be ON.

This is the reason I don't recommend it. 😀

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:00 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Volvo recommend either freewheeling or in gear. However care needs to be taken that either forward or reverse gear is selected depending on which firmly stops the spinning, the wrong one will allow slow revolution of the shaft from partially closed clutches which of course will cause wear. How to know which? When sailing observe the shaft rotating, put it into gear, the correct one will produce a satisfying clunk and the shaft will stop, the wrong one will slow the shaft but not fully stop it.  

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui New Zealand

On 05 January 2021 at 04:45 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Chris,

There is usually not a simple answer to your question. 

 The most common issues for non-braking are mechanical within the caliper mechanism. Non-braking is usually caused by the following in order of probability:
  • The caliper bushings will wear and cause misalignment and open calipers
  • The brake shoe pads will wear
  • The caliper frame may be loose on the hydraulic cylinder
  • The hydraulic cylinder spring may need adjustment
  • The hydraulic cylinder may need an overhaul
  • The caliper mechanical springs may be broken or defective
  • Or, something else I haven't thought of 
The most common issue for not releasing is hydraulic in nature.

The quarter that Courtney refers to will usually solve the problem when the bushing is worn, or the brake pad is worn.

It is possible that the Italian-made Caliper you have is no longer made. If so, Amel will supply you with a new model that will work, but not necessarily fit without minor modification.

I believe that you can either leave the prop free spinning or place the transmission in gear to stop the spinning, however, I do not recommend either of those because I have not been able to verify the long-term issues, if any, in doing either.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chris Likins < likinsca@...> wrote:
We have A54 #133. Today when sailing I noticed that the prop was spinning freely(in reverse) each time a wave would pass under us. It’s easy to see that the shaft brake is not engaging when the engine is in neutral or shut down. Referencing Bill Rouses book p.305, it reads that the hydraulic shaft OPENS the calipers when pressurized by the transmission. Currently the shaft is retracted into the piston at all times allowing the calipers to remain open. I understand that the calipers are supposed to spring shut on the disk when transmission pressure is lost on the shaft. I am a bit confused by this as there is no mechanical connection between the hydraulic shaft and the outer caliper. It seems like the calipers should close when the shaft is extended.. So my questions are
1. Can someone help explain this system in more detail? 
2. What position should the shaft be in when pressurized and not pressurized? 
3. Is it most likely a bad spring on the caliper? 
4. Most importantly for now.. Is it ok to allow the prop to spin freely for the duration of the passage or would it be better on the shaft if we remain in forward gear. 

Thank you for the help! 

 

 


Re: Prop is spinning freely

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill,

Volvo recommend either freewheeling or in gear. However care needs to be taken that either forward or reverse gear is selected depending on which firmly stops the spinning, the wrong one will allow slow revolution of the shaft from partially closed clutches which of course will cause wear. How to know which? When sailing observe the shaft rotating, put it into gear, the correct one will produce a satisfying clunk and the shaft will stop, the wrong one will slow the shaft but not fully stop it.  

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui New Zealand

On 05 January 2021 at 04:45 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Chris,

There is usually not a simple answer to your question. 

 The most common issues for non-braking are mechanical within the caliper mechanism. Non-braking is usually caused by the following in order of probability:
  • The caliper bushings will wear and cause misalignment and open calipers
  • The brake shoe pads will wear
  • The caliper frame may be loose on the hydraulic cylinder
  • The hydraulic cylinder spring may need adjustment
  • The hydraulic cylinder may need an overhaul
  • The caliper mechanical springs may be broken or defective
  • Or, something else I haven't thought of 
The most common issue for not releasing is hydraulic in nature.

The quarter that Courtney refers to will usually solve the problem when the bushing is worn, or the brake pad is worn.

It is possible that the Italian-made Caliper you have is no longer made. If so, Amel will supply you with a new model that will work, but not necessarily fit without minor modification.

I believe that you can either leave the prop free spinning or place the transmission in gear to stop the spinning, however, I do not recommend either of those because I have not been able to verify the long-term issues, if any, in doing either.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chris Likins < likinsca@...> wrote:
We have A54 #133. Today when sailing I noticed that the prop was spinning freely(in reverse) each time a wave would pass under us. It’s easy to see that the shaft brake is not engaging when the engine is in neutral or shut down. Referencing Bill Rouses book p.305, it reads that the hydraulic shaft OPENS the calipers when pressurized by the transmission. Currently the shaft is retracted into the piston at all times allowing the calipers to remain open. I understand that the calipers are supposed to spring shut on the disk when transmission pressure is lost on the shaft. I am a bit confused by this as there is no mechanical connection between the hydraulic shaft and the outer caliper. It seems like the calipers should close when the shaft is extended.. So my questions are
1. Can someone help explain this system in more detail? 
2. What position should the shaft be in when pressurized and not pressurized? 
3. Is it most likely a bad spring on the caliper? 
4. Most importantly for now.. Is it ok to allow the prop to spin freely for the duration of the passage or would it be better on the shaft if we remain in forward gear. 

Thank you for the help! 

 

 


Re: Prop is spinning freely

 

For your information, I have seen all sorts of "fixes" for worn-out caliper bushings when performing Pre-Purchase consulting. This photo takes the Grand Prize Award of all I have seen. It includes a wooden clothespin and wire, both circled in red. The new owner of this SM replaced the calipers with a slightly different model caliper from the same Italian manufacturer as the original. Amel SAV provided the new caliper:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:45 AM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Chris,

There is usually not a simple answer to your question. 

 The most common issues for non-braking are mechanical within the caliper mechanism. Non-braking is usually caused by the following in order of probability:
  • The caliper bushings will wear and cause misalignment and open calipers
  • The brake shoe pads will wear
  • The caliper frame may be loose on the hydraulic cylinder
  • The hydraulic cylinder spring may need adjustment
  • The hydraulic cylinder may need an overhaul
  • The caliper mechanical springs may be broken or defective
  • Or, something else I haven't thought of 
The most common issue for not releasing is hydraulic in nature.

The quarter that Courtney refers to will usually solve the problem when the bushing is worn, or the brake pad is worn.

It is possible that the Italian-made Caliper you have is no longer made. If so, Amel will supply you with a new model that will work, but not necessarily fit without minor modification.

I believe that you can either leave the prop free spinning or place the transmission in gear to stop the spinning, however, I do not recommend either of those because I have not been able to verify the long-term issues, if any, in doing either.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chris Likins <likinsca@...> wrote:
We have A54 #133. Today when sailing I noticed that the prop was spinning freely(in reverse) each time a wave would pass under us. It’s easy to see that the shaft brake is not engaging when the engine is in neutral or shut down. Referencing Bill Rouses book p.305, it reads that the hydraulic shaft OPENS the calipers when pressurized by the transmission. Currently the shaft is retracted into the piston at all times allowing the calipers to remain open. I understand that the calipers are supposed to spring shut on the disk when transmission pressure is lost on the shaft. I am a bit confused by this as there is no mechanical connection between the hydraulic shaft and the outer caliper. It seems like the calipers should close when the shaft is extended.. So my questions are
1. Can someone help explain this system in more detail? 
2. What position should the shaft be in when pressurized and not pressurized? 
3. Is it most likely a bad spring on the caliper? 
4. Most importantly for now.. Is it ok to allow the prop to spin freely for the duration of the passage or would it be better on the shaft if we remain in forward gear. 

Thank you for the help! 


Re: Prop is spinning freely

 

Chris,

There is usually not a simple answer to your question. 

 The most common issues for non-braking are mechanical within the caliper mechanism. Non-braking is usually caused by the following in order of probability:
  • The caliper bushings will wear and cause misalignment and open calipers
  • The brake shoe pads will wear
  • The caliper frame may be loose on the hydraulic cylinder
  • The hydraulic cylinder spring may need adjustment
  • The hydraulic cylinder may need an overhaul
  • The caliper mechanical springs may be broken or defective
  • Or, something else I haven't thought of 
The most common issue for not releasing is hydraulic in nature.

The quarter that Courtney refers to will usually solve the problem when the bushing is worn, or the brake pad is worn.

It is possible that the Italian-made Caliper you have is no longer made. If so, Amel will supply you with a new model that will work, but not necessarily fit without minor modification.

I believe that you can either leave the prop free spinning or place the transmission in gear to stop the spinning, however, I do not recommend either of those because I have not been able to verify the long-term issues, if any, in doing either.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chris Likins <likinsca@...> wrote:
We have A54 #133. Today when sailing I noticed that the prop was spinning freely(in reverse) each time a wave would pass under us. It’s easy to see that the shaft brake is not engaging when the engine is in neutral or shut down. Referencing Bill Rouses book p.305, it reads that the hydraulic shaft OPENS the calipers when pressurized by the transmission. Currently the shaft is retracted into the piston at all times allowing the calipers to remain open. I understand that the calipers are supposed to spring shut on the disk when transmission pressure is lost on the shaft. I am a bit confused by this as there is no mechanical connection between the hydraulic shaft and the outer caliper. It seems like the calipers should close when the shaft is extended.. So my questions are
1. Can someone help explain this system in more detail? 
2. What position should the shaft be in when pressurized and not pressurized? 
3. Is it most likely a bad spring on the caliper? 
4. Most importantly for now.. Is it ok to allow the prop to spin freely for the duration of the passage or would it be better on the shaft if we remain in forward gear. 

Thank you for the help! 


Re: Prop is spinning freely

Sebti Lamya
 


Re: SM 2000 Mizzen Spreader Deck Light

scentstone
 

Hi Jeff,

I hope it helps but you'll see on this page the reference used by Amel on your boat which is Aquasignal.

It's nos available with an (expensive) LED bulb which you'll see on this page.

https://www.svb24.com/en/aqua-signal-kiel-led-floodlight-white.html

My two cents is that, after some years the small teeths which hold the buld wouls be fragile (as well on your main mast light = same brand, same bulb, different model) and it would be a great idea to change it for a brand new.

Lift you up, use a drill to remove "rivets" and install the new.

Kind regards

Fred
S/V ScentStone
SM2K#375


Re: SM 2000 Mizzen Spreader Deck Light

Jeff Williams
 

Hi Gary,
I was referring to the cockpit area light mounted on the forward aspect of the mizzen mast.  

The old bulb housing was very rusted along with the internal mount for the bulb.  I've ordered a new bulb but am not 100% sure how to mount it inside the housing.
It is a 50W PAR36 bulb, not LED.  
Jeff

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:03 AM Gary Silver via groups.io <garysilver=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Jeff, Are you referring to the cockpit area light mounted on the forward aspect of the mizzen mast, or are there actually spreader lights on the mizzen mast spreaders? If the later is the case I don't believe spreader lights were standard on SMs.  At least spreader lights weren't standard thru hull # 335 and I suspect the same for # 379.  Others might have information on post # 335 hull numbers.  A photo would be helpful. 

All the best,  Gary S. Silver, M.D.  , until recently the original and only owner of s/v Liahona   Amel SM 2000 # 335, Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico


Re: SM 2000 Mizzen Spreader Deck Light

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Jeff, Are you referring to the cockpit area light mounted on the forward aspect of the mizzen mast, or are there actually spreader lights on the mizzen mast spreaders? If the later is the case I don't believe spreader lights were standard on SMs.  At least spreader lights weren't standard thru hull # 335 and I suspect the same for # 379.  Others might have information on post # 335 hull numbers.  A photo would be helpful. 

All the best,  Gary S. Silver, M.D.  , until recently the original and only owner of s/v Liahona   Amel SM 2000 # 335, Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico

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