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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
eric freedman
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 1:25 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
Bill, I use a long grade 10 (black steel) allen head cap screw . I install it in the bolt hole in the bottom of the shaft of the furler. I then use a small sledge hammer-about 2 kilos and drive the shaft out. It comes out easily now since I use anti seize compound on it twice a year.
The first time this did not work. I had to remove the boom, place it upside down on the deck . I supported it on wood dunnage and used the same bolt with a BIG sledge hammer. That removed the bolt. If you look at Kimberlite photos you will see how it was done.
I also added grease ports to the gear boxes and genoa furler. I tapped them with a 5mm metric tap and used nylon bolts to fill the tapped holes. To grease it I use the autoprop grease fitting . One hole is tapped low on one side and high on the other side of the gearbox. I put grease in the lower fitting and grease it till the grease comes out clean. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi everyone -
I have a new project on hands and I have seen the posts regarding the outhaul overhaul. All these post have been extremely helpful. Just wondering if anyone else can chime in on the methods they have used to pull the shaft from the transmission before I purchase a bearing puller or other device to help. I have a pretty good spread of tools/equipment on board including a few thing that might help.
Thus far I have removed the furling motor which was tested and proved to not be the problem. Transmission (current) needs an overhaul and I have two spares to put on in the meantime however, getting the shaft to free has been an issue. I have used PB blaster overnight and I am currently thinking up a devise that I can set up to "press" the shaft through.
Creative ideas are welcome.
Bill Maffei SM #196 It's all Good
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
eric freedman
This is the link. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 1:25 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
Bill, I use a long grade 10 (black steel) allen head cap screw . I install it in the bolt hole in the bottom of the shaft of the furler. I then use a small sledge hammer-about 2 kilos and drive the shaft out. It comes out easily now since I use anti seize compound on it twice a year.
The first time this did not work. I had to remove the boom, place it upside down on the deck . I supported it on weed dunnage and used the same bolt with a BIG sledge hammer. That removed the bolt. If you look at Kimberlite photos you will see how it was done.
I also added grease ports to the gear boxes and genoa furler. I tapped them with a 5mm metric tap and used nylon bolts to fill the tapped holes. To grease it I use the autoprop grease fitting . One hole is tapped low on one side and high on the other side of the gearbox. I put grease in the lower fitting and grease it till the grease comes out clean. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi everyone -
I have a new project on hands and I have seen the posts regarding the outhaul overhaul. All these post have been extremely helpful. Just wondering if anyone else can chime in on the methods they have used to pull the shaft from the transmission before I purchase a bearing puller or other device to help. I have a pretty good spread of tools/equipment on board including a few thing that might help.
Thus far I have removed the furling motor which was tested and proved to not be the problem. Transmission (current) needs an overhaul and I have two spares to put on in the meantime however, getting the shaft to free has been an issue. I have used PB blaster overnight and I am currently thinking up a devise that I can set up to "press" the shaft through.
Creative ideas are welcome.
Bill Maffei SM #196 It's all Good
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
eric freedman
Bill, I use a long grade 10 (black steel) allen head cap screw . I install it in the bolt hole in the bottom of the shaft of the furler. I then use a small sledge hammer-about 2 kilos and drive the shaft out. It comes out easily now since I use anti seize compound on it twice a year.
The first time this did not work. I had to remove the boom, place it upside down on the deck . I supported it on weed dunnage and used the same bolt with a BIG sledge hammer. That removed the bolt. If you look at Kimberlite photos you will see how it was done.
I also added grease ports to the gear boxes and genoa furler. I tapped them with a 5mm metric tap and used nylon bolts to fill the tapped holes. To grease it I use the autoprop grease fitting . One hole is tapped low on one side and high on the other side of the gearbox. I put grease in the lower fitting and grease it till the grease comes out clean. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:57 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
Hi everyone -
I have a new project on hands and I have seen the posts regarding the outhaul overhaul. All these post have been extremely helpful. Just wondering if anyone else can chime in on the methods they have used to pull the shaft from the transmission before I purchase a bearing puller or other device to help. I have a pretty good spread of tools/equipment on board including a few thing that might help.
Thus far I have removed the furling motor which was tested and proved to not be the problem. Transmission (current) needs an overhaul and I have two spares to put on in the meantime however, getting the shaft to free has been an issue. I have used PB blaster overnight and I am currently thinking up a devise that I can set up to "press" the shaft through.
Creative ideas are welcome.
Bill Maffei SM #196 It's all Good
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] More than you ever wanted to know about the absent fuse for the bow thruster...
seafeverofcuan@...
Which all goes to show, you have to do the miles.
Fairwinds , Trevor Seafevr SM425 Mexico
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Fw: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
To: "amelyachtowners@..." Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft Hi Bill I had that problem in Colon at the shelter bay marina. I decided to replace the bearings as preventive maintenance prior to the big pacific crossing. After I had spent ages trying I asked the boat yard to use a gas torch to heat the unit to loosen the shaft. Instead they sent a big man with a big puller and a big hammer. Result shattered gearbox casing and the shaft still stuck. Then they brought the gas torch and five minutes later the shaft was out. Lesson beware big man with heavy tools. Heating with a gas torch quickly releases the shaft. As to the future greasing of the shaft...essential to prevent future problems, draw it periodically and grease it. I have found lanacote lasts best. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 2:57 AM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] main out haul furling gearbox shaft Hi everyone - I have a new project on hands and I have seen the posts regarding the outhaul overhaul. All these post have been extremely helpful. Just wondering if anyone else can chime in on the methods they have used to pull the shaft from the transmission before I purchase a bearing puller or other device to help. I have a pretty good spread of tools/equipment on board including a few thing that might help. Thus far I have removed the furling motor which was tested and proved to not be the problem. Transmission (current) needs an overhaul and I have two spares to put on in the meantime however, getting the shaft to free has been an issue. I have used PB blaster overnight and I am currently thinking up a devise that I can set up to "press" the shaft through. Creative ideas are welcome. Bill Maffei SM #196 It's all Good
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator
eric freedman
Hi Paul
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Could you send me the photo? Kimberlite@optonline.net Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:27 AM To: Amel Blog Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator Here is a photo. As you can see the small freezer compartment is replaced by a cooling unit bent to cover the top right and back wall of the existing fridge, then covered with plate to protect it. Paul SV Nomad To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 05:26:18 -0800 Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator Hello! Please send photos, As I'm also changing cooling unit in the Fridge/freezer as well and thinking of building a freezer where the dish washer use to be, all ideas welcome when in the thought process to find good final solutions Paul on sykerpa at gmail dot com SM#295 ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Paul, If your fridge is like ours, follow this: Are you sure that you want a more "efficient" fridge????
How much will that efficiency really cost you???? Best, Bill BeBe 387
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:26 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] More than you ever wanted to know about the absent fuse for the bow thruster...
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Thanks, Joel. That makes perfect sense to me...but, of course I am not an EE...just a lowly IE. Jamie, how does that sound to you...pretty smart, isn't it. Bill BeBe 387
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 4:59 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator
Hello!
Can't find the photo ... Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259 Wintering Finike Turkey
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More than you ever wanted to know about the absent fuse for the bow thruster...
amelforme
I asked Jacques Carteau, Amel’s retired technical manager and one time Chairman, how he could possibly allow there to be no circuit protection on the bow thruster way back when they became standard fitment. I was quite pointed in my objection which annoyed him greatly. He sat me down in his office and said something like, First, we tell all new Amel buyers, with great emphasis, that the bow thruster can take fire if abused. This prevents a multitude of bad habits with the thruster. Second, the only probable time the thruster would be overused by a thoughtful and prudent yachtsperson would be in time of an emergency situation which was jeopardizing the boat and those aboard such as what might happen with the failure of the main propulsion at an inopportune moment such as while docking in wind and current. He reckoned that burning up the thruster and even the possibility of setting it on fire would be a fair price to pay to prevent severe damage to the boat and possible injuries to those aboard. Then he asked me if I knew who my parents are and if I ever put both feet in the same shoe and…
He was/is a pretty cool guy. All The Best and have fun with your Amel, Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:46 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis Kent, I do not believe there is a breaker for the bow thruster, There might be a Gigondo fuse somewhere but I doubt it. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 6:57 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis Where is the breaker for the bow thruster, if there is one? Thanks, Kent SM253 Kristy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: main out haul furling gearbox shaft
seafeverofcuan@...
Bill,
From the many postings over the years, it seems that I was very lucky and a small bearing puller did it relatively easily ( there was some hammering). Somewhere in the archives, you will find a posting were the boom had to be taken to a machine shop. The learning from all of this, has to be to regularly grease the stainless shaft in the Anderson winch on the boom. Many of us have also added grease points to the transmission case, but it is a case of a little rather than a lot when servicing. Regards, Trevor Seafever SM 425 Mexico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator
Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
Here is a photo. As you can see the small freezer compartment is replaced by a cooling unit bent to cover the top right and back wall of the existing fridge, then covered with plate to protect it.
Paul SV Nomad To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 05:26:18 -0800 Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator Hello! Please send photos, As I'm also changing cooling unit in the Fridge/freezer as well and thinking of building a freezer where the dish washer use to be, all ideas welcome when in the thought process to find good final solutions Paul on sykerpa at gmail dot com SM#295
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main out haul furling gearbox shaft
william_maffei@...
Hi everyone - I have a new project on hands and I have seen the posts regarding the outhaul overhaul. All these post have been extremely helpful. Just wondering if anyone else can chime in on the methods they have used to pull the shaft from the transmission before I purchase a bearing puller or other device to help. I have a pretty good spread of tools/equipment on board including a few thing that might help. Thus far I have removed the furling motor which was tested and proved to not be the problem. Transmission (current) needs an overhaul and I have two spares to put on in the meantime however, getting the shaft to free has been an issue. I have used PB blaster overnight and I am currently thinking up a devise that I can set up to "press" the shaft through. Creative ideas are welcome. Bill Maffei SM #196 It's all Good
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Front opening refridgerator
Hello! Please send photos, As I'm also changing cooling unit in the Fridge/freezer as well and thinking of building a freezer where the dish washer use to be, all ideas welcome when in the thought process to find good final solutions
Paul on sykerpa at gmail dot com SM#295
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yahoo changes...
Rick Grimes
I hit 'send' before I was finished with my message. But you get the drift. The Amel forum is the single most incredibly useful vehicle for communications among Amel owners yet it sits on an archaic platform that makes it far more difficult (and frustrating) to navigate than necessary. For one, why can't one simply link to a photo in the archives rather than having to leave "conversations" and navigate into the bowels of the "photos" library to find a photo and then navigate all the way back to the original message? I don't have the solution; I'm just throwing the idea of transitioning over to a more contemporary platform only in the context of the implications of changes at Yahoo for the Amel forum archives. It could be an opportunity to make it easier to access the wealth of knowledge and experience that resides therein...
On Dec 5, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I would agree with a lot of that but receiving a simple text message can also be easier if you are in a low bandwidth situation.
I download and tried the yahoo forum offline tool - http://www.personalgroupware.com/index.htm - The trial version fairly quickly downloaded 4000 or so messages - I will try
and leave it running and download the rest in the next day or so - the file and photos download didn't seem to work though. If that can be made to work then it would seem an ideal offline tool to have a local copy of the forum messages and would be very useful
when away from Internet access. I note also that the creator offers a bulk discount - I wonder if they would give forum members a discounted price.
Also it looks like it exports all the messages and attachments in SQLLite format so it should be technically possible to transform this into a format that could be migrated to another forum.
Andrew
SM 472
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fuel Tank Filter, Variprop
Thanks Eric. I do have auto prop and yes engine will quickly go to 3500 or more on neutral ... Seems likely fouled prop... Ben Driver
On Dec 5, 2015, at 7:26 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] LOW ENGINE RPMS ON YANMAR 75
Thanks Colin. Can you tell me your max power rpm's and cruising rpm's? Ben Driver
On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Colin Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] LOW ENGINE RPMS ON YANMAR 75
Not cleaned in over a year not greased in two years Ben Driver
On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:11 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] LOW ENGINE RPMS ON YANMAR 75
Thanks.. Good to know there is filter in tank Ben Driver
On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:51 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: LOW ENGINE RPMS ON YANMAR 75
Doing so today Ben Driver
On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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