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Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

 

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On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 7:57 PM Dean Gillies <stella@...> wrote:
Hi all,
12 months ago I ordered 12x new Rolls S12-128AGM batteries to replace for Stella's (A54-154) waning 5 year old battery bank.  
My thinking at the time was that I would seek another 5 years from AGM's before seriously considering lithium.
The pandemic happened and I was unable to return to the boat (in the UK) in 2020, so I cancelled my battery order.

Fast forward 12 months and I am thinking again about my battery replacement. During the pandemic I bought a caravan (RV) which is fitted with a 12Vx 200Ah lithium battery, and it has given me some good first-hand experience of using a lithium system in an off-grid scenario.  In practical terms, I am impressed by its ability to accept high charge rates even when SOC is high, and also to operate effectively with stable voltages when in low SOC states, even when delivering high currents.     My boat use-case is ideally 6 months constant cruising and 6 months in storage, although the current cycle will be 18 months in storage due to the pandemic. I am least impressed by the logistics of maintaining a lithium battery during long periods of storage.

That said, I am now considering making the jump to lithium when I (hopefully) return to the UK in 2020.
I don't want to get involved in a lithium "project" and I'm not particularly interested in turning Stella into a "smart boat".
I'm also not interested in retiring my generator, and I am happy to continue using this for AirCon and Laundry appliances, so I don't need a big invertor, and I don't want to replace the cabling between batteries and Engine Room charging devices.

My preferred path would be to install "drop-in" replacement lithium batteries, and then upgrade any other components necessary to ensure safe and reliable operation.
I believe the main thing I will need to re-configure/augment is my 175A charger to ensure it doesn't overheat with too much constant load, and doesn't destroy itself in a HV battery disconnect.
Any other critical things I should consider here?   

The lithium batteries I would prefer are the 24V models since they should always be properly balanced by the BMS, whereas the 12V models need to be separately managed for proper balancing in a 24V system (just like Lead Acid batteries do).  I understand about not having 12V redundancy for engine starting, and I'm comfortable with my contingencies there. 

I considered the BattleBorn 24V/50Ah batteries, and apart from the strange terminal configuration making them not "drop-in", these would seem to be a good choice. However I cannot find a supplier in the UK. Has anyone purchased these in the UK?  Has anyone purchased them for shipping to the UK from the US?

My other serious contender is the Relion RB24V50.  This has a slightly lower max discharge current (50A) than the BB battery (60A) which is important particularly for bow thruster operation but the terminal arrangement means that it is a true drop-in replacement AND it is available for purchase in the UK.  I wonder if anyone has any experience of this battery, or other Relion batteries? 

Cost vs power
The set of 12x AGM batteries is GBP2800 and provides about 250Ah of usable capacity at 24V without taking the batteries below about 65% SOC (which is my preference). So lets say about GBP11 per Ah of usable capacity.

A set of 8x 24Vx50Ah Relion batteries would cost about GBP8000 and give a usable capacity of about 280Ah without taking the batteries below 30% SOC. That is therefore about GBP28 per Ah of usable capacity.

The rule of thumb seems to be that the lithium option is about 2.5 times more expensive than AGM for equivalent capacity. 
Does that stack up with other experiences or did I miss something?

Weights
The 12x AGM batteries total mass is 393.6kg whereas the 8x lithium batteries weigh in at 105.6kg
That's a weight saving of 288kg.
I know that Stella, like other A54's, has a slight list to one side, but I just can't remember if it's port or starboard, can someone please remind me which it is?

Hmmm, I didn't intend this post to be quite so involved, but just typing it has helped to clarify my thinking :-)

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella A54-154
Currently (still) ashore in Ardrossan, Scotland.
 
 


 
   
  


  


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Courtney Gorman
 

I just installed 12 12v Relion batteries and 2 40v chargers everything was a straight swap 
Batteries 900$ each Chose the 40v because they can use any shore voltage and can run at the same time if wanted like with the Generator 
Obviously no long term experience but my failed chargers killed a 1 year old bank of AGMs so easy decision 
Cheers 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101
Brunswick 


On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Dean Gillies <stella@...> wrote:

Hi all,
12 months ago I ordered 12x new Rolls S12-128AGM batteries to replace for Stella's (A54-154) waning 5 year old battery bank.  
My thinking at the time was that I would seek another 5 years from AGM's before seriously considering lithium.
The pandemic happened and I was unable to return to the boat (in the UK) in 2020, so I cancelled my battery order.

Fast forward 12 months and I am thinking again about my battery replacement. During the pandemic I bought a caravan (RV) which is fitted with a 12Vx 200Ah lithium battery, and it has given me some good first-hand experience of using a lithium system in an off-grid scenario.  In practical terms, I am impressed by its ability to accept high charge rates even when SOC is high, and also to operate effectively with stable voltages when in low SOC states, even when delivering high currents.     My boat use-case is ideally 6 months constant cruising and 6 months in storage, although the current cycle will be 18 months in storage due to the pandemic. I am least impressed by the logistics of maintaining a lithium battery during long periods of storage.

That said, I am now considering making the jump to lithium when I (hopefully) return to the UK in 2020.
I don't want to get involved in a lithium "project" and I'm not particularly interested in turning Stella into a "smart boat".
I'm also not interested in retiring my generator, and I am happy to continue using this for AirCon and Laundry appliances, so I don't need a big invertor, and I don't want to replace the cabling between batteries and Engine Room charging devices.

My preferred path would be to install "drop-in" replacement lithium batteries, and then upgrade any other components necessary to ensure safe and reliable operation.
I believe the main thing I will need to re-configure/augment is my 175A charger to ensure it doesn't overheat with too much constant load, and doesn't destroy itself in a HV battery disconnect.
Any other critical things I should consider here?   

The lithium batteries I would prefer are the 24V models since they should always be properly balanced by the BMS, whereas the 12V models need to be separately managed for proper balancing in a 24V system (just like Lead Acid batteries do).  I understand about not having 12V redundancy for engine starting, and I'm comfortable with my contingencies there. 

I considered the BattleBorn 24V/50Ah batteries, and apart from the strange terminal configuration making them not "drop-in", these would seem to be a good choice. However I cannot find a supplier in the UK. Has anyone purchased these in the UK?  Has anyone purchased them for shipping to the UK from the US?

My other serious contender is the Relion RB24V50.  This has a slightly lower max discharge current (50A) than the BB battery (60A) which is important particularly for bow thruster operation but the terminal arrangement means that it is a true drop-in replacement AND it is available for purchase in the UK.  I wonder if anyone has any experience of this battery, or other Relion batteries? 

Cost vs power
The set of 12x AGM batteries is GBP2800 and provides about 250Ah of usable capacity at 24V without taking the batteries below about 65% SOC (which is my preference). So lets say about GBP11 per Ah of usable capacity.

A set of 8x 24Vx50Ah Relion batteries would cost about GBP8000 and give a usable capacity of about 280Ah without taking the batteries below 30% SOC. That is therefore about GBP28 per Ah of usable capacity.

The rule of thumb seems to be that the lithium option is about 2.5 times more expensive than AGM for equivalent capacity. 
Does that stack up with other experiences or did I miss something?

Weights
The 12x AGM batteries total mass is 393.6kg whereas the 8x lithium batteries weigh in at 105.6kg
That's a weight saving of 288kg.
I know that Stella, like other A54's, has a slight list to one side, but I just can't remember if it's port or starboard, can someone please remind me which it is?

Hmmm, I didn't intend this post to be quite so involved, but just typing it has helped to clarify my thinking :-)

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella A54-154
Currently (still) ashore in Ardrossan, Scotland.
 
 


 
   
  


  


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Dean
By the calkulation for the price by AH you have to think abaut the time foe working in good contitione the AGM batteries maybe 5-8 years
Li maybe 10-12 years ( we dont now realy )
I think two month agow to change to LI in this winter but it seams to dificult for my an now i thange by a new charge system victron multiplus , victron solar charger , and new agm Batteries an then i can change in 5 yaers by LI Batteries

Elja
SM Balu 222

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Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

James Alton
 

Paul,

   I wonder if you might have had a deteriorated old style flax packing in your stuffing box?  That material will break down and become weak over time so does tend to break into pcs.  If you use a modern fiber packing I think that you will find that the packing rings will come out in one pc. as it is quite strong.   I am glad to hear that the specialty tool worked better for you. 

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

On Nov 13, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Paul Stascavage via groups.io <pstas2003@...> wrote:

James,

I used your suggestion to get the majority of the second ring removed.  It worked, but it was a slow and tedious process as the material was only coming out in pieces,

Dan,

Thank you for referring me to the Palmetto 1101 tool.  I used it today to remove the last 25% of the second ring as well as the third ring.  What took me a few hours was accomplished today in about 15 minutes with this tool.  I highly recommend it.

All the best,


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
On The Hard - Severn Yachting Center - Hayes, VA


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Dean Gillies
 

Thanks Brent,
The problem I've found is that Transporter Energy don't supply the 24V battery model. They only supply the 12V battery.  I've seen good reviews of the Battleborn product in this forum and elsewhere.

Good point about the profiles. I have circa 2010 Mastervolt mains chargers which I believe have lithium profiles, and a Victron solar controller which I know definitely does have the lithium profile.

I'll check up on the Mastervolt products, and also that the Alternator external regulator is compatible.

Best regards
Dean
SY Stella A54-154


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Brent Cameron
 

Dean, Battle Born is the US distributor for Dragon Fly Energy. In the UK, the same batteries are sold as Transporter Energy. This is what Brian on Delos installed.   In addition to the alternator regulators you will need to ensure your chargers support a Lithium profile as well. 

Brent

On Nov 13, 2020, 8:58 PM -0500, Dean Gillies <stella@...>, wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi all,
12 months ago I ordered 12x new Rolls S12-128AGM batteries to replace Stella's (A54-154) waning 5 year old battery bank.  
My thinking at the time was that I would seek another 5 years from AGM's before seriously considering lithium.
The pandemic happened and I was unable to return to the boat (in the UK) in 2020, so I cancelled my battery order.

Fast forward 12 months and I am thinking again about my battery replacement. During the pandemic I bought a caravan (RV) which is fitted with a 12Vx 200Ah lithium battery, and it has given me some good first-hand experience of using a lithium system in an off-grid scenario.  In practical terms, I am impressed by its ability to accept high charge rates even when SOC is high, and also to operate effectively with stable voltages when in low SOC states, even when delivering high currents.     My boat use-case is ideally 6 months constant cruising and 6 months in storage, although the current cycle will be 18 months in storage due to the pandemic. I am least impressed by the logistics of maintaining a lithium battery during long periods of storage.

That said, I am now considering making the jump to lithium when I (hopefully) return to the UK in 2020.
I don't want to get involved in a lithium "project" and I'm not particularly interested in turning Stella into a "smart boat".
I'm also not interested in retiring my generator, and I am happy to continue using this for AirCon and Laundry appliances, so I don't need a big invertor, and I don't want to replace the cabling between batteries and Engine Room charging devices.

My preferred path would be to install "drop-in" replacement lithium batteries, and then upgrade any other components necessary to ensure safe and reliable operation.
I believe the main thing I will need to re-configure/augment is my 175A charger to ensure it doesn't overheat with too much constant load, and doesn't destroy itself in a HV battery disconnect.
Any other critical things I should consider here?   

The lithium batteries I would prefer are the 24V models since they should always be properly balanced by the BMS, whereas the 12V models need to be separately managed for proper balancing in a 24V system (just like Lead Acid batteries do).  I understand about not having 12V redundancy for engine starting, and I'm comfortable with my contingencies there. 

I considered the BattleBorn 24V/50Ah batteries, and apart from the strange terminal configuration making them not "drop-in", these would seem to be a good choice. However I cannot find a supplier in the UK. Has anyone purchased these in the UK?  Has anyone purchased them for shipping to the UK from the US?

My other serious contender is the Relion RB24V50.  This has a slightly lower max discharge current (50A) than the BB battery (60A) which is important particularly for bow thruster operation but the terminal arrangement means that it is a true drop-in replacement AND it is available for purchase in the UK.  I wonder if anyone has any experience of this battery, or other Relion batteries? 

Cost vs power
The set of 12x AGM batteries is GBP2800 and provides about 250Ah of usable capacity at 24V without taking the batteries below about 65% SOC (which is my preference). So lets say about GBP11 per Ah of usable capacity.

A set of 8x 24Vx50Ah Relion batteries would cost about GBP8000 and give a usable capacity of about 280Ah without taking the batteries below 30% SOC. That is therefore about GBP28 per Ah of usable capacity.

The rule of thumb seems to be that the lithium option is about 2.5 times more expensive than AGM for equivalent capacity. 
Does that stack up with other experiences or did I miss something?

Weights
The 12x AGM batteries total mass is 393.6kg whereas the 8x lithium batteries weigh in at 105.6kg
That's a weight saving of 288kg.
I know that Stella, like other A54's, has a slight list to one side, but I just can't remember if it's port or starboard, can someone please remind me which it is?

Hmmm, I didn't intend this post to be quite so involved, but just typing it has helped to clarify my thinking :-)

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella A54-154
Currently (still) ashore in Ardrossan, Scotland.
 
 


 
   
  


  

--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Dean Gillies
 
Edited

Hi all,
12 months ago I ordered 12x new Rolls S12-128AGM batteries to replace Stella's (A54-154) waning 5 year old battery bank.  
My thinking at the time was that I would seek another 5 years from AGM's before seriously considering lithium.
The pandemic happened and I was unable to return to the boat (in the UK) in 2020, so I cancelled my battery order.

Fast forward 12 months and I am thinking again about my battery replacement. During the pandemic I bought a caravan (RV) which is fitted with a 12Vx 200Ah lithium battery, and it has given me some good first-hand experience of using a lithium system in an off-grid scenario.  In practical terms, I am impressed by its ability to accept high charge rates even when SOC is high, and also to operate effectively with stable voltages when in low SOC states, even when delivering high currents.     My boat use-case is ideally 6 months constant cruising and 6 months in storage, although the current cycle will be 18 months in storage due to the pandemic. I am least impressed by the logistics of maintaining a lithium battery during long periods of storage.

That said, I am now considering making the jump to lithium when I (hopefully) return to the UK in 2020.
I don't want to get involved in a lithium "project" and I'm not particularly interested in turning Stella into a "smart boat".
I'm also not interested in retiring my generator, and I am happy to continue using this for AirCon and Laundry appliances, so I don't need a big invertor, and I don't want to replace the cabling between batteries and Engine Room charging devices.

My preferred path would be to install "drop-in" replacement lithium batteries, and then upgrade any other components necessary to ensure safe and reliable operation.
I believe the main thing I will need to re-configure/augment is my 175A charger to ensure it doesn't overheat with too much constant load, and doesn't destroy itself in a HV battery disconnect.
Any other critical things I should consider here?   

The lithium batteries I would prefer are the 24V models since they should always be properly balanced by the BMS, whereas the 12V models need to be separately managed for proper balancing in a 24V system (just like Lead Acid batteries do).  I understand about not having 12V redundancy for engine starting, and I'm comfortable with my contingencies there. 

I considered the BattleBorn 24V/50Ah batteries, and apart from the strange terminal configuration making them not "drop-in", these would seem to be a good choice. However I cannot find a supplier in the UK. Has anyone purchased these in the UK?  Has anyone purchased them for shipping to the UK from the US?

My other serious contender is the Relion RB24V50.  This has a slightly lower max discharge current (50A) than the BB battery (60A) which is important particularly for bow thruster operation but the terminal arrangement means that it is a true drop-in replacement AND it is available for purchase in the UK.  I wonder if anyone has any experience of this battery, or other Relion batteries? 

Cost vs power
The set of 12x AGM batteries is GBP2800 and provides about 250Ah of usable capacity at 24V without taking the batteries below about 65% SOC (which is my preference). So lets say about GBP11 per Ah of usable capacity.

A set of 8x 24Vx50Ah Relion batteries would cost about GBP8000 and give a usable capacity of about 280Ah without taking the batteries below 30% SOC. That is therefore about GBP28 per Ah of usable capacity.

The rule of thumb seems to be that the lithium option is about 2.5 times more expensive than AGM for equivalent capacity. 
Does that stack up with other experiences or did I miss something?

Weights
The 12x AGM batteries total mass is 393.6kg whereas the 8x lithium batteries weigh in at 105.6kg
That's a weight saving of 288kg.
I know that Stella, like other A54's, has a slight list to one side, but I just can't remember if it's port or starboard, can someone please remind me which it is?

Hmmm, I didn't intend this post to be quite so involved, but just typing it has helped to clarify my thinking :-)

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella A54-154
Currently (still) ashore in Ardrossan, Scotland.
 
 


 
   
  


  


Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

Paul Stascavage
 

James,

I used your suggestion to get the majority of the second ring removed.  It worked, but it was a slow and tedious process as the material was only coming out in pieces,

Dan,

Thank you for referring me to the Palmetto 1101 tool.  I used it today to remove the last 25% of the second ring as well as the third ring.  What took me a few hours was accomplished today in about 15 minutes with this tool.  I highly recommend it.

All the best,


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
On The Hard - Severn Yachting Center - Hayes, VA


Re: more on 160 LPH Desalinator

Dan Carlson
 

Thanks for this information Bill,

Best regards Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387


On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 8:25 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
I recently replaced my high pressure switch. It was leaking profusely and corroded. It wasn't working.
The desal unit will work fine without the switch in the system. It is there to prevent over-pressurization.
The new switch came with some installation instructions. The switch comes pre-set at a very low cut-out pressure.
The instructions tell you to "Install the switch, start up the desal unit and increase the high pressure knob until the high pressure pump cuts out. Note where the cut out happens on the hi-pressure scale. Repeat until the cut-out occurs at the top of the green zone on the hi-pressure gauge."  This procedure is hard on the generator and high pressure pump. I inquired to the  Dessalator  techs as to why they could not supply the switch preset at some value of 800-850 PSI which is the industry standard for these pumps and also why a numerical pressure gauge is not fitted or recommended  as a refit. No answer has been forthcoming as yet.
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331


more on 160 LPH Desalinator

william reynolds
 

I recently replaced my high pressure switch. It was leaking profusely and corroded. It wasn't working.
The desal unit will work fine without the switch in the system. It is there to prevent over-pressurization.
The new switch came with some installation instructions. The switch comes pre-set at a very low cut-out pressure.
The instructions tell you to "Install the switch, start up the desal unit and increase the high pressure knob until the high pressure pump cuts out. Note where the cut out happens on the hi-pressure scale. Repeat until the cut-out occurs at the top of the green zone on the hi-pressure gauge."  This procedure is hard on the generator and high pressure pump. I inquired to the  Dessalator  techs as to why they could not supply the switch preset at some value of 800-850 PSI which is the industry standard for these pumps and also why a numerical pressure gauge is not fitted or recommended  as a refit. No answer has been forthcoming as yet.
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331


Re: Installing a diesel heater

Bill Shaproski
 

Forgot to mention my heater is an Eberspracher. 
Bill Shaproski

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:35 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Hello!
Plan a trip to Nordkapp next season and need to install a diesel heater in our SM (we do not have the forced ventilation). I have searched on the forum but did not find the information I was looking for.
Location of a diesel heater could be in the engine room or in the large cockpit locker. You who have a diesel heater where is it located?
One could choose either air or a water distributed heater, advantage with the water distributed heater, easier to install the water pipe, but the heat elements takes large place. the hot air heater duct takes a lot of space as diameter is 90 mm or about 3½ inch. 
So would very much appreciate you experience and recommendations when it comes to install a diesel heater 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259, Lagos, Portugal 



--
Bill Shaproski
Cell:  +1-206-375-2787


Re: Installing a diesel heater

Bill Shaproski
 

I had a diesel air heater on my 1995 SM before I sold it recently.  It is installed in the cockpit main port locker tucked up under the top of the locker.  It is difficult to access once installed since it requires complete removal of everything in the locker.  The diesel exhaust is through the hull.  I didn't use it much given that I was always in warm climates.  But I did use it in South Africa.  It has heating tubes running to the main cabin from under the galley area and exiting under the companionway stairs and to the aft cabin via the engine room and aft head.  Since I rarely used it, the two tiny diesel fuel filters would clog up when not in use and needed to be cleaned before first use.  One filter is on the diesel heater and one is on the fuel line in the engine room where it connects to the main diesel fuel line.  
Regards
Bill Shaproski 

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:35 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Hello!
Plan a trip to Nordkapp next season and need to install a diesel heater in our SM (we do not have the forced ventilation). I have searched on the forum but did not find the information I was looking for.
Location of a diesel heater could be in the engine room or in the large cockpit locker. You who have a diesel heater where is it located?
One could choose either air or a water distributed heater, advantage with the water distributed heater, easier to install the water pipe, but the heat elements takes large place. the hot air heater duct takes a lot of space as diameter is 90 mm or about 3½ inch. 
So would very much appreciate you experience and recommendations when it comes to install a diesel heater 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259, Lagos, Portugal 



--
Bill Shaproski
Cell:  +1-206-375-2787


Amel SM Boom Slider Mounts to Hang Blocks and Preventer

 

SM owners,

As many of you know there have been some issues with the Main Boom Aluminum Slider Mounts cracking and failing.
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Mat Day, the new owner of SM 209 ADAGIO has a great solution that you might want to take advantage of. He has a friend with the knowledge, engineering software, and equipment to make this for your SM Boom:
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The following is what Matt Day wrote:
6061 Aluminum
316 Stainless bushings and set screws
Hard anodized @ 0.050" penetration

The guy's name is Phil McGloin [513-907-1601; pmcgloin@...].  He is one hell of a solid Mechanical Engineer and owns a Prototyping Machine Shop (PnP Tech Works LLC).  I have working with him for several years.

If anyone is looking for an engineer/machinist to help out, he is a solid resource.  It's hard to find persons with solid technical and practical skills.  Phil is one of the best I have worked with.  He has 3 additional parts available if anyone is interested at $325(+ shipping).

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)

Scott SV Tengah
 

Update: I now have the brush less fridge pump motor up and running. It's self priming by virtue of using the flojet pump head. 

It has a brushless motor which theoretically will last much much longer than the brushed flojet motors. Every single flojet failure I had prior was due to the brushes wearing down and the commutator getting scored beyond repair. 

I surmise the next failure point will be either bearings or the diaphragm in the pump head. I have multiple slightly used backups by virtue of my old failed pumps and also replacing those parts is cheap and possible. 

I've been working with Oliver on this prototype for a while now and it has delivered. A few kinks need to be worked out and today I'll try to measure water output from the old flojet and adjust the speed of the brush less motor to match it. I think frigoboat wants 6l per minute. 

Up shot is that it should last far longer. At my current motor speed it is drawing 60% less power then the flojet brushed motor. Even with two fridges on and the freezer, the freezer evaporator plate, which I think is last to get cooling water is showing -26c so I think current flow rate is sufficient but I'll verify objectively. 

I still have a stock flojet next to it in case this pump dies. That's more about me wanting redundancy because I'm reasonably confident this will far outlast the multiple flojets that I've chewed through. 
 

-- 
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Just completed a 2900nm tough passage - two little switches almost ruined my month: Bilge Float Switch and Volvo D3-110C auxiliary stop

Scott SV Tengah
 

Jamie, 

Sorry for the slow reply. 

I haven't installed it yet but I have an additional one of these aboard: 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JOK11K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_BwgJiFawCYt3r

Plan would be to zip tie the sensor somewhere along the outside of the tube. The alarm unit itself will be mounted on the cavity behind the water maker panel or near the steering rack.

The included cable is a little less than 2 meters but it's 9v and the instructions explicitly say you can extend it. I figure 3 meters total should be more than enough. 

This is the same alarm I installed by the stuffing box. Works like a charm. 




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Deck cap replacement for head pump out fitting

Ryan Meador
 

I've been searching for replacements for these caps since almost the day we bought our boat, and I haven't found them anywhere -- but that was before the very helpful info from Bill!  I settled on buying some pin pliers, which allow opening and closing the broken fittings.  Those pliers come in handy for all kinds of other things as well, like tensioning the alternator belt.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 10:22 AM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Bill

You never cease to amaze....thanks.

Kevin


On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:45 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


You can buy these in a number of places. They are 50mm or 2 inches.

Here is a snippet from a page in my Amel Book.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 7:22 AM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Good morning,

I contacted Maude looking for a replacement deck cap fitting for my head pump out tank but was informed Amel does not carry that part anymore.

Has anyone sourced this part elsewhere?





Kevin
SM#362 Kiana (formerly Nomad)
Charleston SC






Re: Deck cap replacement for head pump out fitting

Kevin Schmit
 

Bill

You never cease to amaze....thanks.

Kevin


On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:45 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


You can buy these in a number of places. They are 50mm or 2 inches.

Here is a snippet from a page in my Amel Book.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 7:22 AM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Good morning,

I contacted Maude looking for a replacement deck cap fitting for my head pump out tank but was informed Amel does not carry that part anymore.

Has anyone sourced this part elsewhere?





Kevin
SM#362 Kiana (formerly Nomad)
Charleston SC






Re: Deck cap replacement for head pump out fitting

 

You can buy these in a number of places. They are 50mm or 2 inches.

Here is a snippet from a page in my Amel Book.
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 7:22 AM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Good morning,

I contacted Maude looking for a replacement deck cap fitting for my head pump out tank but was informed Amel does not carry that part anymore.

Has anyone sourced this part elsewhere?





Kevin
SM#362 Kiana (formerly Nomad)
Charleston SC






Re: Main electric switches

Paul Osterberg
 

James
Great thank you 
Paul 


Deck cap replacement for head pump out fitting

Kevin Schmit
 

Good morning,

I contacted Maude looking for a replacement deck cap fitting for my head pump out tank but was informed Amel does not carry that part anymore.

Has anyone sourced this part elsewhere?





Kevin
SM#362 Kiana (formerly Nomad)
Charleston SC

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