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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: current cost of ACMO rigging for Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

I have posted a few photos on my Stay sail deck fitting, if any one want further information please let me know.
On the pictures it looks as is rather large distance between the sheeting point and the clew, but when tension it,s almost no distance between the "block" and the clew
Paul on SY Kerpa #259


Re: Rudder Anode

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Duane

The hole is drilled out to 10 mm
Countersink diameter 26mm, depth 8mm
Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM437


Maramu Shower Floor Removal

j.lochhead@...
 

Hi,

I need to remove the shower floor pan to the forward head.  Has anyone attempted this before.  It all looks straight forward until you get to the part where it comes around the head door frame.  It does not seem right but it almost looks like the frame was installed after the pan and cut in around it.


Maybe it is just a really good seal.


James

Mahiti Maramu #147


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Alain,

I can confirm your figures although I have the 79 hp version.  Probably just larger injectors… 

I also cruise either 1400 or 1500; power up to 2600 RPM for an hour every 24 hours of low power operations.  Engine runs very well now.

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 12 Jan 2016, at 08:23, alainfeuillet@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Vladimir and all,
with hull freshly cleaned, Maxprop, Volvo TMD2-75, no wind and flat see here is my engine polar
1200 4,1 (40l/100M)
1500 5,6 (45l/100M)
1800 6,6 (56l/100M)
2000 7,2 (68/100M)
2200 7,7 (84l/100M)
2500 8,1
3000 8,5
Measured one month ago after maintenance on the hard..
One knot more at low speed, same speed at 2500rpm, than before hull cleaning.
I added the fuel consumption in litres/hundred miles. I used the Volvo abacus litre/rpm which proved to be rather consistent. I use this polar to optimise long utilisation of engine. Consequence I usually engine cruise at 1500rpm. You know price of fuel in Europe...
 Cheers
Alain (PILGRIM)


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hi Vladimir and all,
with hull freshly cleaned, Maxprop, Volvo TMD2-75, no wind and flat see here is my engine polar
1200 4,1 (40l/100M)
1500 5,6 (45l/100M)
1800 6,6 (56l/100M)
2000 7,2 (68/100M)
2200 7,7 (84l/100M)
2500 8,1
3000 8,5
Measured one month ago after maintenance on the hard..
One knot more at low speed, same speed at 2500rpm, than before hull cleaning.
I added the fuel consumption in litres/hundred miles. I used the Volvo abacus litre/rpm which proved to be rather consistent. I use this polar to optimise long utilisation of engine. Consequence I usually engine cruise at 1500rpm. You know price of fuel in Europe...
 Cheers
Alain (PILGRIM)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rudder Anode

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi a 9/16 drill will do just fine. Done it any number of times. 

Regards
Capt Richard Piller

On Jan 11, 2016, at 09:07, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan,

I assumed that's what most would do and I assume it's easy enough to accomplish. 

One of the anode suppliers noted there was a stainless steel nut embedded in one of the halves.  That would be a bit tougher drilling.  Do you recall what size of drill bit was used?

I am also wondering how the electrical connection is made.  Is it through the stainless bolt and the metal sleeve in the rudder?  Or is it contact between the end of the sleeve to the anode?  Both of these seem less than sure things and would warrant a bit of 1000 grit wet dry paper to improve the electrical conductivity.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder Anode

karkauai
 

I just purchased some Camp R7 anodes online. I was told by the diver who changed the zincs last, and by the electrician who specializes in hull potential problems that Camp zincs are much better than the Martyr zincs I was using. I'm not sure if I'll have to drill out the hole, but that's easy as others have said.  Since there was no evidence of a current leak causing my zincs to erode in 2 months, I am trying the higher quality zincs and using a 7" zinc rather than the 5" in an effort to have them last longer.
Kent
SM243
Kristy




From: "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder Anode

 
I Use R5 zincs . I use a bench grinder to make a flat on the top for a washer and  drill a hole for a 10 mm bolt.
Has been working fine for 13 years.
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder Anode
To: amelyachtowners@...

> I bought the standard R5 "trim tab" anode and the bolt is pretty
> small compared to the present bolt - about 1/2" according to the
> diver.
>
>
> Can someone give me a source for a suitable anode?
>
>
> Duane
> Wanderer SM477
>



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder Anode

eric freedman
 


WOW 4 Amels in Santa Marta Colombia

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Congratulations Francisco!!!
So happy you solved your problem!
Enjoy your trip and my best wishes for 2016!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands.



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 1/11/16, svperegrinus@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 11, 2016, 4:37 PM


 









Thanks to all who helped troubleshoot.
In the end, it was determined that
the brand new solenoid installed in August in La Rochelle
had become unreliable ("glitchy").  Towards the
end, it was failing about 9 out of every 10
times.
And so a new
solenoid was installed on Saturday.  The engine has been
started flawlessly about 20 times since.
The reference for the new 150A
solenoid, which is the same physical size as the Amel
factory original, but with the downside that it does not
have the pushbutton functionality at the top:
PowerMax+1013391Made
in Brazil
I also
obtained a spare, 100A, same physical size as the Amel
factory original, with pushbutton functionality at the top
(same as Amel factory):
ST
BrandST-11009-12SRB319Made
in Taiwan
By the way,
the solenoid installed in La Rochelle in August that failed
was a 5-second solenoid, 100A:
HC Car Go133695 - SolenoidHolger Christiansen - A Bosch
Group CompanyMade in
China
Finally,
some of you may recall that our "STOP" button was,
confusingly, not stopping the engine about 30% of the
attempts.  We replaced the original Yanmar with a standard
industrial waterproof "Stop" button (red, same
size, flexible transparent waterproof cover above the
button).  So far, we've stopped the engine each time
every time, about 10 times.
Cheers to all,

PeregrinusBenalmádena,
Spain









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Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Thanks to all who helped troubleshoot.

In the end, it was determined that the brand new solenoid installed in August in La Rochelle had become unreliable ("glitchy").  Towards the end, it was failing about 9 out of every 10 times.

And so a new solenoid was installed on Saturday.  The engine has been started flawlessly about 20 times since.

The reference for the new 150A solenoid, which is the same physical size as the Amel factory original, but with the downside that it does not have the pushbutton functionality at the top:

PowerMax+
1013391
Made in Brazil

I also obtained a spare, 100A, same physical size as the Amel factory original, with pushbutton functionality at the top (same as Amel factory):

ST Brand
ST-11009-12
SRB319
Made in Taiwan

By the way, the solenoid installed in La Rochelle in August that failed was a 5-second solenoid, 100A:

HC Car Go
133695 - Solenoid
Holger Christiansen - A Bosch Group Company
Made in China

Finally, some of you may recall that our "STOP" button was, confusingly, not stopping the engine about 30% of the attempts.  We replaced the original Yanmar with a standard industrial waterproof "Stop" button (red, same size, flexible transparent waterproof cover above the button).  So far, we've stopped the engine each time every time, about 10 times.

Cheers to all,


Peregrinus
Benalmádena, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

Stephen Davis
 

We attempted to get some new knobs directly from the company in Germany. They responded promptly by email in English, but stated our model of heater was no longer supported. When you look online, they seem to have a model of a similar shape and size. I'd send them an email, and see if they can provide a manual in English. 

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM72
St John, USVI


On Jan 11, 2016, at 14:34, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill- I googled the heater name and came up with a website that appears to have a manual on line.  It is not in English. 
 
 
Diane
svShenanigans
SM123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2016 10:51 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

 
Anybody have a copy of the manual they could upload to the forum for the Fakir Hobby S heater? 

Bill Maffei
SM #195 
It's all Good


Re: Rudder Anode

Duane Siegfri
 

Thank you Alan!

Duane
Wanderer SM#477


Re: Rudder Anode

Alan Leslie
 

Duane,
I will be on the boat tomorrow,,,I'll measure the hole...
The stainless nut just pushes out with the bolt...no need to drill it out
Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill- I googled the heater name and came up with a website that appears to have a manual on line.  It is not in English. 
 
 
Diane
svShenanigans
SM123
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2016 10:51 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fakir Heater Manual

 
Anybody have a copy of the manual they could upload to the forum for the Fakir Hobby S heater? 

Bill Maffei
SM #195 
It's all Good


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Joel,
Thanks a lot. I have an original Autoprop.
I will check my tachometer.
I appreciate your help.

On Jan 10, 2016 7:44 PM, "'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir, with your 75 H.P. engine, if you have a Max-Prop, that speed and RPM are about right, well within the range. If you have an Auto-Prop, the RPM are about 600 slower and that speed is a bit slower than normal by about ½ a knot. All things considered, nothing for concern and within normal ‘range’.

However, keep this in mind. In 35 years of selling used Amel’s by the hundreds, I have NEVER seen a tachometer on an Amel , or any other boat for that matter, after being tested with a certified pulse/stroboscopic tachometer, where the tachometer on the boat was less than 100 RPM too fast or too slow, and many times more than 100 RPM, sometimes a lot more. Tachometers are notoriously inaccurate, especially modern ones which take their information from an electrical pulse from the alternator or other source rather than an engine to tachometer rotating cable. If you are using accurate tide charts and GPS and something does not add up, have your tachometer tested, it’s inexpensive and easy to do so. It is often the culprit.

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 3:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000

Joel,

Max RPM is 2900 at 8.2 kn speed.
Is this OK?

On Jan 6, 2016 8:43 AM, "Joel jfpottercys@... jfpottercys@...> [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@... amelyachtowners@...> > wrote:

Vladimir, how many RPM will your engine develop at maximum and what speed does the boat achieve? What propellor are you using?

Joel F. Potter

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954-812-2485 954-812-2485>

On Jan 6, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... sonsev52@...> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... amelyachtowners@...> > wrote:

How many HP in your engine?
My boat was fully loaded.

On Jan 6, 2016 7:32 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... uster@...> [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@... amelyachtowners@...> > wrote:

Good morning Vladimir,
My speeds were similar, using the Volvo TMD 22.

1400 rpm 4.5 kt
1600 rpm: 5 kt
1800 rpm 5.5 kt

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 1/6/16, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... sonsev52@...> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... amelyachtowners@...> > wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000
To: amelyachtowners@... amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 5:29 AM

I bought my boat several months
ago. Boat was made in 2002, she has 75 HP Yanmar engine.

I decide to establish my boat performance characteristic. I
tested boat speed at three different engine RPM. My test
results are as follows:
Engine RPM Boat speed in
KN

1500.
4.7

2000.
6.3

2500.
7.5
Boat speed test minimised current or wind
effects. The speed was taking from GPS at maximum stable
speed.

I wonder if those results are as good as expected or not. Do
we have any similar data from Amel?
Vladimir Sonsev

S/V Life is Good

MS345

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2,000

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I use original Autoprop. Previous owner told me that he never ran the boat at more than 2,000 RPM. I am very far from home (Annapolis MD) and I try to be very conservative.  I will run at full throttle later on closer to home.

On Jan 6, 2016 9:13 AM, "Joel jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir, how many RPM will your engine develop at maximum and what speed does the boat achieve? What propellor are you using?

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

On Jan 6, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

How many HP in your engine?
My boat was fully loaded.

On Jan 6, 2016 7:32 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Vladimir,
My speeds were similar, using the Volvo TMD 22.

1400 rpm 4.5 kt
1600 rpm: 5 kt
1800 rpm 5.5 kt

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marina, Turks & Caicos Islands

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On Wed, 1/6/16, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine RPM vs Boat speed for Amel-Super-Maramu 2000
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 5:29 AM


 









I bought my boat several months
ago. Boat was made in 2002, she has 75 HP Yanmar engine.

I decide to establish my boat performance characteristic. I
tested boat speed at three different engine RPM. My test
results are as follows:
Engine RPM           Boat speed in
KN

1500.                                 
4.7

2000.                                 
6.3

2500.                                 
7.5
Boat speed test minimised current or wind
effects. The speed was taking from GPS at maximum stable
speed.

I wonder if those results are as good as expected or not. Do
we have any similar data from Amel?
Vladimir Sonsev

S/V Life is Good

MS345












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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] winter marinas in Greece

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

I took the liberty to change the subject line....

An other possibility is in Aghios Nikolaos on northeast coast of Crete. It is a night sail from Rohdes. 
A very nice marina where you can choose to have your boat in water or on land. Travel lift to take you out of the water.
The Marina is in the center of the town, and you have about 1 hour transfer to the airport in Heraklion.
If you choose to spend the winter onboard your boat, there is a nice community during the winters, nice walks are arranged every week. Also you have a lot to explore on Crete.

We have been there for two winters and just loved it.

/Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

11 jan. 2016 kl. 16:56 skrev Siviero Attilio attilio.siviero@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Dear Gerhard,

I reached Rhodes after a long summer cruise from Porto Karras (Halkidiki) to Kastellorizo, my intention was to leave Sisila (Amel Santorin #84) in Leros, but I was not able to reach the Marina, neither one, due to strong Northern winds I had last week of holidays, therefore I left the boat in Rhodes. Mandraki was too crowded and the fact that it is inside the old town made me some issues on security, Rhodes New Marina was available and convenient enough, a bit more than 10€/day for in water winterizing, a bit expensive for the services provided. The problems are that the Marina is actually still a construction site, but security is assured. Services are limited to a toilet, no lifting facilities neither the possibility to leave the boat on the hard. Also, when North winds blow for several days, a huge swell interest the boats, in fact a protection jetty is under construction at the entrance. The solution is to keep the boat some 3-4meters from dock, to be safe. This way the boat is accessible only with the tender. The Marina personnel, anyhow, is conscious of these limitations, and provides great help for safe mooring and custody.
In February or so I will move the boat to the boatyard Nereus (www.nereusboatyard.com mail nereus@...), they have a huge new travellift, even if the yard is extremely crowded, you have to book well in advance. Marina personnel offered to move the boat on my behalf.
In noonsite.com you will find on the new Rhodes Marina similar considerations
hope this helps



Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 10 gen 2016, alle ore 09:05, pepinoamel <no_reply@...> ha scritto:


Hi Attilio


An unrelated question: are you staying in the new marina in Rhodes?  We would like to stay there over winter next year.


Thanks for any info.


Gerhard Hoffmann

Pepino SM381

Evia, Greece





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Combination anchor tri color light

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Dear Gerhard,
I reached Rhodes after a long summer cruise from Porto Karras (Halkidiki) to Kastellorizo, my intention was to leave Sisila (Amel Santorin #84) in Leros, but I was not able to reach the Marina, neither one, due to strong Northern winds I had last week of holidays, therefore I left the boat in Rhodes. Mandraki was too crowded and the fact that it is inside the old town made me some issues on security, Rhodes New Marina was available and convenient enough, a bit more than 10€/day for in water winterizing, a bit expensive for the services provided. The problems are that the Marina is actually still a construction site, but security is assured. Services are limited to a toilet, no lifting facilities neither the possibility to leave the boat on the hard. Also, when North winds blow for several days, a huge swell interest the boats, in fact a protection jetty is under construction at the entrance. The solution is to keep the boat some 3-4meters from dock, to be safe. This way the boat is accessible only with the tender. The Marina personnel, anyhow, is conscious of these limitations, and provides great help for safe mooring and custody.
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In noonsite.com you will find on the new Rhodes Marina similar considerations
hope this helps



Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 10 gen 2016, alle ore 09:05, pepinoamel <no_reply@...> ha scritto:


Hi Attilio


An unrelated question: are you staying in the new marina in Rhodes?  We would like to stay there over winter next year.


Thanks for any info.


Gerhard Hoffmann

Pepino SM381

Evia, Greece