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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

eric freedman
 

Rick,

Check the sensor on the exhaust( back of the engine}. Mine came apart. If the engine exhaust overheated I would never have known it.

 

I keep spares for all senders , gaskets, alternators, starters, fuel injectors, radiator caps, pumps, impellers, filters

Custom hoses, and more for both the engine and generator.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

Ps you can buy some knurled brass bolts from McMaster Carr and replace the bolts on the yanmar raw  water pump.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

 

 

Eric. Did exactly as you suggested. The sensor was completely filled with rust except for a pinhole into which some water entered. Steve Davis ("Aloha") came over and removed it, cleaned it, Dremeled off the corrosion, put it back on, and started the generator. Seems to work perfectly now though I'm soon going to buy an extra sensor. Thanks for your advice! Spot on!

Rick and Linda Grimes
"Rascal" SM2K (#404)
Sun Bay Marina
Fajardo, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

eric freedman
 

How about a gear puller?

Or using a few wood wedges between the prop and the body of the bowthruster- avoid the nylon wheel inside the prop hub.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 

 

The prop can't be removed in the water unfortunately. Not all of the nylon bolts sheared off and all I am left with is a prop centre and no blades. I have removed four of the bolts, two were sheared off and the two that remain are badly mangled to the point where they can't be worked in the water. So before I decide to haul the boat, I was looking for anyone who may have experienced a stuck shaft or have any suggestions. So yes, heat is an option. Thanks.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

tango708@...
 

Interesting back story!

Will Stout
Anni Bea True
SM180
St Martin, FWI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

rickgrimes1@...
 

Eric. Did exactly as you suggested. The sensor was completely filled with rust except for a pinhole into which some water entered. Steve Davis ("Aloha") came over and removed it, cleaned it, Dremeled off the corrosion, put it back on, and started the generator. Seems to work perfectly now though I'm soon going to buy an extra sensor. Thanks for your advice! Spot on!

Rick and Linda Grimes
"Rascal" SM2K (#404)
Sun Bay Marina
Fajardo, PR


Re: Yanmar Engine issue

rickgrimes1@...
 

Problem solved! Thanks all for your thoughts and ideas on dealing with the air leak somewhere around my Yanmar engine that prevented the proper flow of raw water.  With the advice and help of Steve Davis ("Aloha"), I went first to the most likely place ("Are you sure the O ring is properly seated in the impeller housing?" asked Gary Silver).  When I last changed the impeller in the middle of the North Atlantic last November, I neglected to also check and change out the O ring.  When I pulled the cover of the housing, it was fairly corroded so I cleaned it up, lightly sanded the surface, and replaced with a new O ring. 

Further, while reading the instructions for the use of the "Speed Seal" cover (installed by the previous owner), I saw that I was supposed to have a white plastic washer underneath a metal washer--both--not one or the other. The plastic washer was missing and found later on the floor underneath the engine.  Also the inside of the Speed Seal cover was pretty worn.  Thus, I decided to replace the speed seal with the original cover (happily left among spare parts by the previous owner). 

Though the impeller was in good shape, I went ahead and changed it out and then put everything back together. During this process, of course, all the water had drained from all the hoses and the pump. So the real test (to see if the impeller housing and cover was the source of the air leak) was to start the engine and see if it self-primed--and it did! Works like new now. 

All that said there were several thoughts on other potential sources of the air leak and while, so far, it seems to be the impeller housing, I will next check all those areas to ensure they are and remain healthy (e.g., the boot area mentioned by Bill Rouse and other areas where I'm likely to spring a leak).    

I posted some photos here:

http://www.rickgrimes1.com/amel-links.html


Rick and Linda Grimes

"Rascal" SM2K (#404)

Sun Bay Marina, Fajardo, PR


 


Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Thanks Mark, but do you have a picture of the stop fuel solenoid, or know how to access it? Do you have to remove the fuel pump to get to it?  I would love to see a annotated photo of this stop solenoid so I knew what I was looking at, and any hints as to how to troubleshoot it.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

Thanks Craig. Would a filter wrench work?

Anyone near the Abacos with an AMEL thruster removal tool like Derick mentions?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Mark Erdos
 

There is a stop fuel solenoid on the fuel pump. Is this what you are asking? When you push the stop button on the panel, this activates the solenoid and cut the flow to the engine. This is how the Yanmar is stopped.





With best regards,



Mark



Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff



www.creampuff.us



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP





OK, so I am officially confused. I originally thought that the components in Bill's picture were for starting the Yanmar. I now know that the negative solenoid also depresses when someone else pushes the stop button in the cockpit to stop the engine; I can hear it and feel it click, so I know that is part of the process, but my engine does not stop so some other part of the stop circuit has gone awry. What turns off the diesel fuel? Is there not another STOP solenoid (and perhaps diode) connected to the fuel pump somehow?



Derick





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Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Craig Briggs
 

Ian, 

Here's an old post of mine on this subject - hope it helps.
The chain wrench with a length of pipe on the handle for leverage is best. 
Cheers, 
Craig Briggs, sv Sangaris SN#68, Pompano Beach, FL


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  • Craig & Katherine
    Apr 3, 2008
    Ed,
    Before you go to a lot of possibly unnecessary trouble - don't give up! 
    Keep on with the WD40 soaking and rather than trying to "jerk" things 
    loose by running the thruster or banging the electric motor, try this. 
    Put a strap wrench around the electric motor, either a chain wrench or a 
    rubber strap one. Then put a length of pipe over the strap wrench 
    handle for added leverage. Then carefully torque this up, trying to 
    turn the motor just a few degrees either right or left. Do this with 
    the thruster retracted: the lower housing will act to resist your 
    turning of the motor. Be patient, turn it right, then left, then right, 
    etc. Be patient and sooner or later it will break free just a bit - 
    then keep nudging it back and forth. At first you may only be able to 
    go a few degrees at a time, but it will break loose after a while. 
    Don't give up!

    Cheers, Craig


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Ian,

If you look in the photos section you can find a Bow Thuster tool made by Amel that can be used to pull out a stuck bow thruster shaft.  I got one from Amel and was finally able to remove the shaft from the motor housing.  That allowed me to clean up all the rust from the motor housing that was binding on the shaft, and lubricate the shaft and motor housing with corrosion resistant grease.

It removes much more easily now.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently in Isles des Saintes, Guadeloupe.


Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

OK, so I am officially confused.  I originally thought that the components in Bill's picture were for starting the Yanmar.  I now know that the negative solenoid also depresses when someone else pushes the stop button in the cockpit to stop the engine; I can hear it and feel it click, so I know that is part of the process, but my engine does not stop so some other part of the stop circuit has gone awry.  What turns off the diesel fuel?  Is there not another STOP solenoid (and perhaps diode) connected to the fuel pump somehow?  

Derick


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

seafeverofcuan@...
 

At that rate, then take a hacksaw to the prop centre and very carefully saw across   two empty bolts holes until you can cut a line across  and remove part of the prop centre which might let you get better access to the two damaged bolts so that you can saw a slot into them and unscrew them. What have you got to lose?
Good luck.
Trevor
Seafever


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

The prop can't be removed in the water unfortunately. Not all of the nylon bolts sheared off and all I am left with is a prop centre and no blades. I have removed four of the bolts, two were sheared off and the two that remain are badly mangled to the point where they can't be worked in the water. So before I decide to haul the boat, I was looking for anyone who may have experienced a stuck shaft or have any suggestions. So yes, heat is an option. Thanks.


Re: Onan Generator issue

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Ric,
      Your last post was a raw water problem with the Yanmar, are you sure these are not connected?
Trevor 
Seafever
Ireland


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Ian, 
     Why are you trying to remove the shaft if you need to replace the prop?
Throw the 2x4 away before you destroy the fairing. If the shaft is that badly stuck you will NEVER get it off while in the water.
If it is a prop replacement as your posting suggests, then you can easily do it in the water with a mask and snorkel.
Remove the nylon bolts from the hub, you will find it easier to line up the replacement prop with two stainless steel bolts which will allow you to insert the nylon bolts in the remaining holes. Remove the two stainless steel bolts and insert the last two nylon bolts and you should be finished.
If your shaft is really badly stuck and has not be removed for a very long time, it most likely will need some heat after you have removed the entire assembly from the boat.
Trevor
Seafever
Ireland


Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

We are attempting an in-water prop replacement of the bow thruster. After removing the collar and four allen screws, the shaft will not fall. It appears to be corroded. We have tried lubricating oil (but only for a couple of hours so far), raising and lowering the motor, banging the shaft with a hammer and prying the fairing by inserting a 2x4. No luck. We have stopped for a drink to mull it over. Any ideas?


Ian Townsend

SM153

Loca Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

eric freedman
 

What are they called?

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

 

 

eBay or Amazon by the 100s and very cheap


On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:44, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

eric freedman
 

They are standard in Europe , but I got a bunch from Amel . there are different sizes for the shades and the

Curtain.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

 

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

eric freedman
 

 

Clean the raw water sensor screwed into the hose near the raw water pump mounted in the hose on a metal tube. The fitting on the sensor is probably full of rust.

 

What is your hull number and model of boat?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

 

 

Yanmar engine working...more to come about the solution later but now dealing with another issue:  I didn't run the Onan genset for a month (sitting at a marina with power).  Just tried it, turns over and runs--then shuts down after about 30 seconds.  Water flowing happily yet yellow light blinking pattern is 7 indicating that is it is a raw water or cooling problem.  Ideas? Thanks!

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

eBay or Amazon by the 100s and very cheap


On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:44, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug