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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Patrick McAneny
 

Vladimir, I had a 33kg. on Shenanigans last winter in the Caribbean , anchored every night , never had to set it twice, nor did it drag an inch, also fit the roller well.
Diane has tracked you guys since you left Trinidad , she is a stalker . Good luck with your new boat , big change from your Passport 40. We wish you and Marina a Happy New Year !
 
Pat & Diane
SM Shenanigans
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 
I plan to replce CQR anchor on my boat to Rocna. I wonder if some one is using 33 kg Rocna on Super-Maramu 2000.
VLADIMIR SONSEV
S/V Life is Good
SM 345
On Dec 31, 2015 2:19 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Everyone should be aware that not all Super Maramus have the same bow roller.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Ben
We have a Rocna 40 KG and it fits perfectly. We have 3 rollers and it fits on the starboard side. When mooring we lift the Rocna onto the deck so it does not chafe or get caught on the mooring line. We love our Rocna and have had it for 7 years.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Trinidad


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 
La Bella Vita 
SM #347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keeping the membranes wet.

yahoogroups@...
 

I did not have anyone tell me the center-up rudder, butt to the helm, facing backwards using the joy stick and throttle, but it seemed to me that it was perfectly designed for this and I have used this procedure AND taught this procedure. I would rather be in reverse with a Super Maramu in close quarters than forward.

I use a variation of this procedure while reversing and setting the bow anchor when securing the aft to shore or with a stern anchor. One hand on the throttle and joy stick and one on the windlass control.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

yahoogroups@...
 

Mark,

I believe the best way to describe sparingly is short bursts, pausing a few seconds between direction change, and not enough to get the motor hot to the touch, unless, of course, there is a NEED. In that case, there is no breaker to reset which opened due to high amp draw and heat generated. Have Cindy use your laser thermometer the next five times you use the bow thruster. I think that too much would be near 100C.

Bill
BeBe 387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

Please define sparingly. I must have nodded off during that part of our Amel schooling. I use it in short bursts but do not know the limitations of the bow thruster.

 

Happy New Year!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Green Turtle Cay, Abacos - Bahamas

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

 

 

Kent,

 

The breakers on BeBe SM 387 are close to the winches, but how do you define close?

 

Regarding the breaker to the Bow Thruster, Joel did an excellent job explaining this in a previous posting. Let me know if you cannot find it and I will search for it for you. The bottom line is that while maneuvering your boat in close quarters and in high winds while using the bow thruster for much too long (and longer than you were told to use it), would you want a breaker to pop in the middle of that over-use, or, would you want the bow thruster motor to get hot. It was a choice Amel made and told each owner to use it sparingly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387 

 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:03 AM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an i nsurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi Graham

One other thought is that in retrospect we did have some intermittent issues with the bow thruster motor just before it finally failed and I had to do some work on the cooper connections to the commutator. I guess it is also possible for the same intermittency from worn bow thruster motor brushes.

Andrew
Ronpische
SM 472

On 31 Dec 2015, at 17:53, Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Andrew,

I haven't been able to inspect it yet but I figure it must be as the bow thruster worked normally once I was on the berth. 

Many thanks for your response

Graham
SV Jamesby
M240
currently in Barbados

On 31/12/2015 15:00, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hi Graham

 

Is the propeller still there? It is designed to break off at the plastic bolts if it catches something? If the motor is still turning but there is no propulsion this would seem the most likely cause, either that or it was not properly descended into the water – I think it is possible in older Maramus for the bow thruster to be actuated when not completely down.

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

 

 

I'm a very new owner of a Maramu and yesterday I had an apparent failure of the bow thruster.  Although it was obvious that the motor was turning, the bow did not respond.  After I got on to my berth (with difficulty - I'm still learning to handle it in reverse!) I tried it again and it worked normally. 

 

Can anyone offer an explanation and, if possible, a course of action. I considered cavitation (unlikely, I think), or the prop slipping on its drive shaft or some foreign object like a plastic bag or piece of weed obstructing the prop. 

 

Can anyone offer other ideas or experience? 

 

Graham Cresswell

SV Jamesby

Maramy #240

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keeping the membranes wet.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Tom,

Happy New Year!

Thank you for your thoughts… I will do as you suggest.  I will get the producers to make the hoses up while I wait…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007



On 1 Jan 2016, at 02:56, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I had a similar problem a few months ago. If you plug up the fittings for the membranes with something (I used paper towels), it should stay reasonably moist inside; the membranes don't have to be soaking in water, just can't dry out. You can always inject some extra water in the upper fitting after you plug the lower one.


Tom Peacock
Aletes SM #240
Antigua




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thrustr does not work

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

Eric is repeating the exact instructions given to us by Michel Charpentier, the well known Amel broker in Hyères, FR.  A good method proven over time.

It works a treat and is simple enough for non mechanically minded “her indoors”.  

Simple!!

Happy New Year everyone.
.
 

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007

On 1 Jan 2016, at 08:16, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just a random thought.
Possibly the rudder was not centered when using the bow thruster if it was way off to one side it might fight
The bow thruster.
When Olivier delivered Kimberlite, he showed us to center the ruder using the autopilot indicator. Then look
Aft with your backside holding the wheel in place. With the rudder in place your right hand can control the joystick and throttle which is behind you.
I can make loop de loops on kimberlite like this.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster
 
 
Kent,
 
The breakers on BeBe SM 387 are close to the winches, but how do you define close?
 
Regarding the breaker to the Bow Thruster, Joel did an excellent job explaining this in a previous posting. Let me know if you cannot find it and I will search for it for you. The bottom line is that while maneuvering your boat in close quarters and in high winds while using the bow thruster for much too long (and longer than you were told to use it), would you want a breaker to pop in the middle of that over-use, or, would you want the bow thruster motor to get hot. It was a choice Amel made and told each owner to use it sparingly.
 
Bill
BeBe 387 
 
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:03 AM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an i nsurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.

 

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

eric freedman
 

The ABYC requirement is for a battery bank fuse to be within 7 wire inches of the battery bank. In the real world of boats and battery compartments this is often hard to do. If you can't get within 7" then the next best thing is to be as close as possible.

 

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/battery_fusing

 

If you read the article it mentions large diesel engines drawing a lot of amps which bypass the above rule.

I believe the is why the Bow thruster is not fused.

 

As Kent will testify- ABYC is not always the best solution—as in connecting the AC ground to the boats bonding.

 

How about our Illegal fuel tanks??? Fuel is supposed to be drawn from a dip tube and not from the bottom of the tank—Which I think is better , taking fuel from the bottom.

 

My friend Bill Seifert who had managed Tartan, J-boat and the Alden productions has sailed with me around Europe and across the Atlantic. He came up with a list of 16 things that do not conform to ABYC rules but are certified OK in Europe—Look at the drawings of our Amels some time. You will see  that much of the boat has passed CE standards and have seals and signatures from government people on the drawings.

 

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Fair Winds’

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

 

 

Kent,

 

The breakers on BeBe SM 387 are close to the winches, but how do you define close?

 

Regarding the breaker to the Bow Thruster, Joel did an excellent job explaining this in a previous posting. Let me know if you cannot find it and I will search for it for you. The bottom line is that while maneuvering your boat in close quarters and in high winds while using the bow thruster for much too long (and longer than you were told to use it), would you want a breaker to pop in the middle of that over-use, or, would you want the bow thruster motor to get hot. It was a choice Amel made and told each owner to use it sparingly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387 

 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:03 AM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an i nsurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.

 

 


bow thrustr does not work

eric freedman
 

Just a random thought.
Possibly the rudder was not centered when using the bow thruster if it was way off to one side it might fight

The bow thruster.

When Olivier delivered Kimberlite, he showed us to center the ruder using the autopilot indicator. Then look

Aft with your backside holding the wheel in place. With the rudder in place your right hand can control the joystick and throttle which is behind you.

I can make loop de loops on kimberlite like this.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

 

 

Kent,

 

The breakers on BeBe SM 387 are close to the winches, but how do you define close?

 

Regarding the breaker to the Bow Thruster, Joel did an excellent job explaining this in a previous posting. Let me know if you cannot find it and I will search for it for you. The bottom line is that while maneuvering your boat in close quarters and in high winds while using the bow thruster for much too long (and longer than you were told to use it), would you want a breaker to pop in the middle of that over-use, or, would you want the bow thruster motor to get hot. It was a choice Amel made and told each owner to use it sparingly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387 

 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:03 AM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an i nsurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

The breakers on BeBe SM 387 are close to the winches, but how do you define close?

Regarding the breaker to the Bow Thruster, Joel did an excellent job explaining this in a previous posting. Let me know if you cannot find it and I will search for it for you. The bottom line is that while maneuvering your boat in close quarters and in high winds while using the bow thruster for much too long (and longer than you were told to use it), would you want a breaker to pop in the middle of that over-use, or, would you want the bow thruster motor to get hot. It was a choice Amel made and told each owner to use it sparingly.

Bill
BeBe 387 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:03 AM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an i nsurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.




Re: Keeping the membranes wet.

peacock@...
 

I had a similar problem a few months ago. If you plug up the fittings for the membranes with something (I used paper towels), it should stay reasonably moist inside; the membranes don't have to be soaking in water, just can't dry out. You can always inject some extra water in the upper fitting after you plug the lower one.

Tom Peacock
Aletes SM #240
Antigua


Overcurrent Protection on Winches, Windlass, and Bowthruster

karkauai
 

I just had a survey done for insurance purposes (it had been 8 years).  The surveyor was very impressed with the boat, its engineering, and its condition.

The only thing he recommended was overcurrent protection of the cables going from the batteries to the winches, windlass and bow thruster.  He said that the breakers should be nearer the batteries, rather than closer to the motors in case there was a short somewhere in the cable runs.  This makes sense to me, especially since the cable runs are nearly inaccessible and can be 10 meters or more long.  He was very surprised that there was no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster.  He recommended an in-line fuse-link for the bow thruster.

Can anyone give me a good reason why Amel put the breakers so far from the batteries, rather than putting a panel of breakers closer to the batteries?  And why there is no overcurrent protection for the bow thruster?

Has anyone had an insurance company balk at this design?

I don't know if there's ever been a failure or fire due to this lack of protection of the cable runs.  I don't want to go to the expense of making this change unless I have to.

Thanks for your replies.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
I've had to cancel my sailing plans indefinitely to respond to a family crisis.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

Patrick McAneny
 

Graham, One other reason for a slow response ,I failed to add to my previous post , is that if the boat was moving aft and the rudder was to one side it may have been working counter to the bow thruster . Torque also may have worked against immediate response . Since you stated that you could hear the motor when you activated the joystick ,then the switch was on ,or you would not have heard the motor. I think any number of the things mentioned probably resulted in slow response . You probably have no problem. You will find that you can back the boat very well using the thruster.
Good Luck,
Pat
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

 
Graham, Since you said the motor worked when you first tried to use it and later the bow thruster moved the boat in the slip , then the prop had to spin earlier. It either does or doesn't . It could be, if you had current or wind or both against which you were pushing and did not allow enough response  time for the thruster to move the bow ,it could appear that the thruster was not working. It seems to be more efficient in one direction than the other. I believe it moves to port faster. Also if the prop is fouled with barnacles this would greatly effect the response time . Just a possible explanation .
Happy New Years Everyone !
Pat & Diane
SM Shenanigans
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:53 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

 
Hi Andrew,

I haven't been able to inspect it yet but I figure it must be as the bow thruster worked normally once I was on the berth. 

Many thanks for your response

Graham
SV Jamesby
M240
currently in Barbados

On 31/12/2015 15:00, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 
Hi Graham
 
Is the propeller still there? It is designed to break off at the plastic bolts if it catches something? If the motor is still turning but there is no propulsion this would seem the most likely cause, either that or it was not properly descended into the water – I think it is possible in older Maramus for the bow thruster to be actuated when not completely down.
 
Andrew
 
 
Ronpische
SM2k 472
Canet en Roussillion, France
 
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu
 
 
I'm a very new owner of a Maramu and yesterday I had an apparent failure of the bow thruster.  Although it was obvious that the motor was turning, the bow did not respond.  After I got on to my berth (with difficulty - I'm still learning to handle it in reverse!) I tried it again and it worked normally. 
 
Can anyone offer an explanation and, if possible, a course of action. I considered cavitation (unlikely, I think), or the prop slipping on its drive shaft or some foreign object like a plastic bag or piece of weed obstructing the prop. 
 
Can anyone offer other ideas or experience? 
 
Graham Cresswell
SV Jamesby
Maramy #240
 
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I just installed - today - a Rocna 40.  It fits in my dual bow roller setup.  I considered the smaller 33.  It fits as well.  As Bill mentioned, not all SM bow rollers are the same so be cautious.  I was lucky to be in Nanny Cay Marina on Tortola.  Budget Marine allowed me to take the 40 to the boat to make sure it fit before I had to commit to buy.  My fallback if 40 was too big would have been 33.

Thanks to all who offered advice and suggestions.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I plan to replce CQR anchor on my boat to Rocna. I wonder if some one is using 33 kg Rocna Oilers on Super-Maramu 2000.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
S/V Life is Good 
SM 345

On Dec 31, 2015 2:19 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Everyone should be aware that not all Super Maramus have the same bow roller.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben
We have a Rocna 40 KG and it fits perfectly. We have 3 rollers and it fits on the starboard side. When mooring we lift the Rocna onto the deck so it does not chafe or get caught on the mooring line. We love our Rocna and have had it for 7 years.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Trinidad


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 
La Bella Vita 
SM #347





Re: Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

rossny@mail.com
 

Congratulations on your new boat Graham, Your Maramu bow thruster may not be faulty. A couple of times when backing into a dock, I thought mine wasn't working but it was a really strong cross current. The size of the prop compared to the boat weight and movement sometimes delays the desired result.
Also I was told to only turn on for 10 seconds and then off for 5 seconds because it is not a constant duty motor, maybe some other owners with more experience could add their comments about this.
Happy New Year to All,
Ross in NYC, US
Maramu 1989 #261


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I plan to replce CQR anchor on my boat to Rocna. I wonder if some one is using 33 kg Rocna on Super-Maramu 2000.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
S/V Life is Good
SM 345

On Dec 31, 2015 2:19 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Everyone should be aware that not all Super Maramus have the same bow roller.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben
We have a Rocna 40 KG and it fits perfectly. We have 3 rollers and it fits on the starboard side. When mooring we lift the Rocna onto the deck so it does not chafe or get caught on the mooring line. We love our Rocna and have had it for 7 years.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Trinidad


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 
La Bella Vita 
SM #347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

amelforme
 

Graham, as odd as it might sound, Trevor’s suggestion of ‘heat of the moment brain fade’ could be the likely culprit. I have sold hundreds of used Amel’s and offer clients a training period of several days to get them up to speed. On more occasions than you would believe, when things get tense the first few times with the new owner on the helm ( after I demonstrate that “THIS IS EASY”), they lower the thruster and then turn off the power switch the first time they reach for the toggle/joy stick. Especially with short timers, panic ensues and the helmsperson goes into save the boat mode and neglects to turn the power on. Just to make an indelible impression, I wait until the helmsperson gulps, loudly , before restoring power.



If this is the case, don’t feel bad. I’ve had many folks much brighter than I, which is just about everybody, do this. Some have even turned the power back on in their panic without realizing they had turned it off! Go easy on yourself.



Were you fortunate to have the seller/other knowledgeable person spend time with you familiarizing you with your-new-to-you Amel? I sure hope so, If not, find an Amel owner close to you and buy them dinner with many adult beverages if they will get you on the path. Lots of little secrets, all of which add to the greatness and enjoyment of these very cleverly conceived and mostly well engineered cruisers.



Some misconceptions that have been inadvertently offered here…

Your bow thruster is an early Amel BISSON/BUFFLE type, more than likely. Lots of evolution since. It is a 12 volt unit, not 24 volts as on the Super Maramu and subsequent Amel models. It is better than nothing certainly but not a game changer/life saver like the much more powerful 24 volt units that followed. The bow thruster on the Amel 54 is a completely different animal, dual props, counter-rotating, very powerful. Your installed bow thruster won’t allow you to dock your Amel Maramu with impunity in 20 plus knots of wind until you practice and really learn the capabilities and limitations and even then... Practice makes perfect and I try to use the bow thruster as little as possible to keep my boat handling skills alive but do not hesitate to employ it before it is needed.



There is no fuse/thermal limiter on the electric motor on any Amel installed bow thruster on a Sharki, Maramu, Mango, Santorin, Super Maramu, or Amel 54 so don’t go looking for that as there is none



Anybody close to Graham in Barbados? I think you will be getting a dinner invite.



I waited to chime in as I make my living selling experienced Amels and I wanted someone else to make the suggestion that Trevor did. I can’t afford to have anyone feel I have scolded them and I sure hope you don’t. You will love and appreciate this owners group.



Have Fun With Your Amel, Joel



Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu





Graham,

The motor (15hp) has so much torque it will either throw off weed or light plastic immediately, or break the nylon shear bolts.

This is a really lame suggestion, but as it is all a bit new to you, is it possible you turned off the switch beside the toggle switch in the heat of the moment?

The good news is the more that you practice the easier it will become, you will quickly be able to wander through a marina in 25kts+ of winds stern too, without a thought.

Happy new year.

Trevor

Seafever of Cuan

SM 425 Redline 2004

For Sale

$295k

Mexico









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: B&G Hydra 2000 Depth Gauge Calibration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks, Mark for doing the measurements and the math.

Bill

BeBe 387

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

To close out this thread, I finally figured out how to program this thing. As an FYI, to set the calibration to read the amount of water under the bottom of the keel (reads zero when you are aground), the setting is -4.9 ft or -1.5 M.

 

A setting of +2 ft or +0.6 M will report water depth from the waterline to the ocean floor.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas

 

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:11 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: B&G Hydra 2000 Depth Gauge Calibration

 

Does anyone have a quick guide or cheat-sheet on how to adjust the B&G Hydra 2000 depth calibration? Also, if someone knows how low below the waterline the transducer is mounted (or how high it is above the bottom of the keel), this would be most helpful and save me a dive with a tape measure.

 

I think I may have lost my settings when we had to disconnect the battery bank when replacing the Link10. The depth gauge use to read depth under the keel. If it read zero, I was aground (ask me how I know this). But now, I think it reads the distance from the transducer to the floor.

 

I have the instructions and it says datum is entered under DEPTH ® DEPTH, CALBRATE ® DEPTH  

 

I swear reading this instructional book is like reading IRS instructions.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Green Turtle Cay, Bahamas

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Everyone should be aware that not all Super Maramus have the same bow roller.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben
We have a Rocna 40 KG and it fits perfectly. We have 3 rollers and it fits on the starboard side. When mooring we lift the Rocna onto the deck so it does not chafe or get caught on the mooring line. We love our Rocna and have had it for 7 years.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Trinidad


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 
La Bella Vita 
SM #347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Intermittent bow thruster - Maramu

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Graham, 
            The motor (15hp)  has so much torque it will either throw off weed or light plastic immediately, or break the nylon shear bolts.
This is a really lame suggestion, but as it is all a bit new to you, is it possible you turned off the switch beside the toggle switch in the heat of the moment?
The good news is the more that you practice the easier it will become, you will quickly be able to wander through a marina in 25kts+ of winds stern too, without a thought.
Happy new year.
Trevor
Seafever of Cuan
SM 425 Redline 2004
For Sale
$295k
Mexico