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Re: winterizing the watermaker

Miles
 

Ryan,

 

I have a small hand pump.  I connect the plastic tube to the flow meter and pump it full of pink stuff, and continue pumping until I think the surrounding tubes are full.  I also use this on the hot water pipes. 

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug,  sm216  200 miles off Bermuda heading south.


Re: winterizing the watermaker

Jamie Wendell
 

You have to manually disconnect the small plastic fittings at the flow meter and drain it, as well as the return hose at the panel. There will be water in both the hose and the sight glass if you do not. I learned the hard way a couple of years ago.
The sight glass froze over the winter and broke - very expensive part from Dessalator.
Pumping pink through the LP pump is all you need to do otherwise based on the many times I have winterized my watermaker (230V only).
Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44


Re: Anchor guide measurement

Karen Smith
 

Arnold,

Our setup looks identical to yours, and the width between the plates is exactly 4 inches (103 mm), BUT.... it does narrow down where the forestay chainplate is located to 3.375 inches (87 mm).

We also protected the deck in that area from abrasion by the chain.  We used a 3 inch wide strip of kevlar fabric set in polyester resin that is holding up very well, but also considered a 4 or 5 mm thick plate of Delrin instead of stainless.  A lot easier to machine on the boat :), and very durable to the kind of sliding abuse that the chain inflicts.  It also looks better as it wears.

Bill & Karen
s/v Harmonie
SM160
Annapolis MD, USA


Re: winterizing the watermaker

eric freedman
 

Ryan,
The gauges on my 160 lph watermaker are oil filled.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM376 Kimberlite

On October 27, 2020 at 7:54 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:

Hi Arnold,

Thanks for the info.

We followed basically those instructions already.  Blowing into the blue hose (I assume this is the one marked with blue tape, which is the product water output) did not clear the flowmeter.  It also didn't empty the membranes, nor the pressure gauge.  Has anyone been able to do this procedure successfully?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


 


Re: winterizing the watermaker

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Arnold,

Thanks for the info.

We followed basically those instructions already.  Blowing into the blue hose (I assume this is the one marked with blue tape, which is the product water output) did not clear the flowmeter.  It also didn't empty the membranes, nor the pressure gauge.  Has anyone been able to do this procedure successfully?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: Volvo 12v alternator

Mike Ondra
 

So here’s a couple of things that we learned about the alternator systems on the Volvo. Our original problem was that the 24 V alternator was not charging until fairly high rpm above 1800. Ultimately what we determine was that the warning light on the 24 v panel in the main salon was burned out therefore not completing the exciter circuit. When replaced by a new indicator light the 24 V system behaved properly.

During troubleshooting we noticed the yellow wire on the 12 V alternator was disconnected. It must’ve happened recently because the 12 V alternator was not putting out any voltage today but we didn’t have a problem with the battery in the past several weeks.. The battery was down to 12.4 V. Interestingly the tachometer did not work either, Which makes sense since it’s connected with the black and gray wire to the alternator picking up the unrectified voltage to pace the RPM. 

Turns out that the yellow wire should have been and perhaps was attached to a tab on the main positive lug on the alternator to the battery. That yellow wire appears to feed the 12 V voltage regulator.

Anyway, with the 24 V warning light replaced and the yellow wire connected to the positive lug on the 12 V alternator everything is working great. Thank you all for your input. Note that the above is our rationalization for what happened and may not necessarily be 100% correct.

Mike
Aletes SM240




On Oct 27, 2020, at 1:56 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Mike,

I am not sure if the following applies to the Volvo 12v alternator, but it applies to the Yanmar 12v alternator:

There is an unused tachometer output wire on all SM Yanmar 12v alternators. See the photo below. Please let me know if yours is the tachometer wire.

Also, possibly there is an issue with the "excite circuit." The alternator will self-excite at higher rpm. Try revving the engine in neutral to 1800 rpm.
<image.png>

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial  trouble shooting  trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240






Re: Anchor guide measurement

Arnold Mente
 


Hi Amelians,

is someone able to give me the measurement of the anchor guide?
I have attached the picture.

Thank you so much for help, I am now far away and search a solution to build in a SS plate that the chain not damage further the last 20 cm to the bow roller.

Best

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM 203



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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Anchor guide measurement

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Amelians,

is someone able to give me the measurement of the anchor guide?
I have attached the picture.

Thank you so much for help, I am now far away and search a solution to build in a SS plate that the chain not damage further the last 20 cm to the bow roller.

Best

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM 203



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: winterizing the watermaker

Arnold Mente
 

Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: Credit when credit is due

Porter McRoberts
 

I have to agree completely. On so many issues. 
The after sales support from Amel is mind bogglingly good. 
Thierry rocks. He’s bailed us out of so many situations, expeditiously and courteously. 

Porter

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Amel is ranked above all other boat builders in terms of supplying parts to boats built 20+ years ago. I agree and it is one of the reasons that Amel owners support Amel and have given Amel this special reputation. This special reputation sells new Amels and will allow Amel continued success. It is in the BEST interests of all Amel owners to support Amel SAV and all of the people that support us every day. 

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:46 AM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I cannot begin to tell all of you how impressed I am  with Amel and particularly Thierry.

They never fail to surprise me..

Last night Monday about 1-2 AM I wrote to Thierry at Amel with my tale of woe with my bow thruster.

Around 10:30 AM I received Thierry's offer for a new gear set for my bow thruster.

I accepted and sent him my card info- I just assumed that it was late in the day Monday and POSSIBLY my parts would go out Tuesday .

I sent an email to Thierry earlier tonight asking when he expects to ship my parts. He sent me a note just now saying 

he was driving to work and that the parts were sent out MONDAY. He said he would give me the tracking info when he gets to the office.

For those of us who try a work around of Amel spares. Please bear in mind the incredible support we receive from 

Amel.. They cannot afford to stock our parts and provide us with such exceptional support without our support.

GREAT JOB AMEL --- THIERRY

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Navpod at the helm installation

Arlo
 

Hello all. I will be installing a Navpod at the helm in the next week and aside from clearance on my traveler (far left of photo) and trying to preserve visibility to 3 or 4 of my raymarine instruments on the dash, does anyone have any pearls of wisdom to share regarding placement? Picture attached....


winterizing the watermaker

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


Re: Volvo 12v alternator

 

Mike,

I am not sure if the following applies to the Volvo 12v alternator, but it applies to the Yanmar 12v alternator:

There is an unused tachometer output wire on all SM Yanmar 12v alternators. See the photo below. Please let me know if yours is the tachometer wire.

Also, possibly there is an issue with the "excite circuit." The alternator will self-excite at higher rpm. Try revving the engine in neutral to 1800 rpm.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial  trouble shooting  trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240






Volvo 12v alternator

Mike Ondra
 

Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial trouble shooting trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240


Re: Amel parts

 

Rob, contact SAV@... for a new motor and gearbox.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:38 AM Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...> wrote:
Hi 

I'm after a new motor and gearbox for my outhaul, can you help please?

Kind regards 

Rob

S/Y FORESIGHT 
SM #152

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 20:43 Bill Shaproski, <bill.shaproski@...> wrote:
I ordered some parts from Amel last week and they arrived two days later.  
Regards
Bill

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 12:02 AM Elaine Leishman via groups.io <leishman.elaine=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Does anyone on the forum know whether Amel is open for business at the moment, or on summer holidays.  I have emailed Maud at sav@... for availability for some parts and have had no response.
Thanks,
Elaine SM2000 Nebo No. 251


Re: Amel parts

Rob Smith
 

Hi 

I'm after a new motor and gearbox for my outhaul, can you help please?

Kind regards 

Rob

S/Y FORESIGHT 
SM #152

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 20:43 Bill Shaproski, <bill.shaproski@...> wrote:
I ordered some parts from Amel last week and they arrived two days later.  
Regards
Bill

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 12:02 AM Elaine Leishman via groups.io <leishman.elaine=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Does anyone on the forum know whether Amel is open for business at the moment, or on summer holidays.  I have emailed Maud at sav@... for availability for some parts and have had no response.
Thanks,
Elaine SM2000 Nebo No. 251


Re: Credit when credit is due

 

You guys produced some great videos.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:26 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Further to our story - see this Maldives video around 16mins 40secs in... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZxA7qzbTY

--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Credit when credit is due

 

Amel is ranked above all other boat builders in terms of supplying parts to boats built 20+ years ago. I agree and it is one of the reasons that Amel owners support Amel and have given Amel this special reputation. This special reputation sells new Amels and will allow Amel continued success. It is in the BEST interests of all Amel owners to support Amel SAV and all of the people that support us every day. 

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:46 AM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I cannot begin to tell all of you how impressed I am  with Amel and particularly Thierry.

They never fail to surprise me..

Last night Monday about 1-2 AM I wrote to Thierry at Amel with my tale of woe with my bow thruster.

Around 10:30 AM I received Thierry's offer for a new gear set for my bow thruster.

I accepted and sent him my card info- I just assumed that it was late in the day Monday and POSSIBLY my parts would go out Tuesday .

I sent an email to Thierry earlier tonight asking when he expects to ship my parts. He sent me a note just now saying 

he was driving to work and that the parts were sent out MONDAY. He said he would give me the tracking info when he gets to the office.

For those of us who try a work around of Amel spares. Please bear in mind the incredible support we receive from 

Amel.. They cannot afford to stock our parts and provide us with such exceptional support without our support.

GREAT JOB AMEL --- THIERRY

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: Credit when credit is due

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Further to our story - see this Maldives video around 16mins 40secs in... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZxA7qzbTY

--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Credit when credit is due

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Eric,

Thank you for recognizing Thiery and the factory like this. I will concur with your appreciation of Thiery, Maud, and the entire Amel factory team in relation to how they care for Amel owners, even though some of our boats left their factory so long ago.

We had the exact same experience with Thiery and the factory team in April 2018. We were in a very remote part of the Maldives Islands, about to sail for Chagos, Rodrigues, and then cross the Indian Ocean, when we had to replace the entire leg of our bow thruster. At that time I got Thiery and Maud on our satphone (whilst the factory was under significant pressure to get 55's out) and learned that they had zero spare Super Maramu 2000 bow thrusters in stock. Long story short ... Thiery arranged everything, even stopping a busy section of the factory to prioritize making us a complete fresh new thruster then urgently air freighted it into Male for us, all in 3 weeks, along with a new underwater fitting tool and required spares so that I could replace the thruster in the water in a remote atoll!!

What a champion Thiery is, and this goes to the very heart of the entire Amel philosophy of superior Quality and Customer Care! At the time Island Pearl II (2001) was already 16 years old, and yet Amel factory was still prepared to prioritize our job at our time of real need, with weather windows closing, our overdue Chagos stay window diminishing,  and the prospect of crossing the often dangerous Indian Ocean with a hole where the thruster should be! You could simply imagine how appreciative we were as a month later we hit 3 wild days mid-Indian Ocean of 55kts winds and white out conditions with 6m swells between Chagos to Rodrigues. 

Bravo Amel! Also, since this was our 7th cruising yacht, from experience with other well known brands, we know for absolute certain that none of the other manufacturers would have done this for a client on a 16 year old boat under her 2nd ownership! Simply amazing stuff from an amazing company!

Although we have since sold, and are land-based working for the next 5 years, we will certainly be back!

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Ex SV Island Pearl II
Brisbane, Australia

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:46 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I cannot begin to tell all of you how impressed I am  with Amel and particularly Thierry.

They never fail to surprise me..

Last night Monday about 1-2 AM I wrote to Thierry at Amel with my tale of woe with my bow thruster.

Around 10:30 AM I received Thierry's offer for a new gear set for my bow thruster.

I accepted and sent him my card info- I just assumed that it was late in the day Monday and POSSIBLY my parts would go out Tuesday .

I sent an email to Thierry earlier tonight asking when he expects to ship my parts. He sent me a note just now saying 

he was driving to work and that the parts were sent out MONDAY. He said he would give me the tracking info when he gets to the office.

For those of us who try a work around of Amel spares. Please bear in mind the incredible support we receive from 

Amel.. They cannot afford to stock our parts and provide us with such exceptional support without our support.

GREAT JOB AMEL --- THIERRY

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

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