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Re: Location of the battery bank on an older Super Maramu

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Mark and Nicky,

The early SM’s had only 4 house batteries and these were located in a smallish battery box against the forward bulkhead of the engine bay.  We have 1989 SM007 which was extensively refitted before we undertook our RTW.  During the refit, we copied the early SM2k and installed 8 X 100 Ah batteries into a fabricated box under the passage way bunk.  Additionally, we kept the start battery in the engine bay and raised its capacity to 1100CCA.  The cables for the house batteries were routed via a watertight branch out just aft of the bulkhead forming the gangway.  If you go for lithium, I expect you’ll only need a total of 600Amps given they recharge so quickly so the area under the bunk will have room to spare. You may also want the engine battery relocated there as well as MPPT controller etc…  We have a 3Kw inverter as well and an induction cook top plus an Ocean Chef 3 gas hob/cook top.  (The aim was to increase redundancy and reliability). (Be warned… this was expensive and lots of work….)

We modified the main engine alternator and installed a smart controller, added 2 new 2460 Victron house battery chargers with smart controllers, Victron 712 battery monitor.  Add 3 X 150 A solar panels with a Victron MPPT controller and we were done.  Works perfectly after 5 years of 24/7 live aboard.  We are pleased.  

Best of luck but if I may suggest, stick to a tried and proven Amel solution… like we did.  Resale value will be adversely affected otherwise.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Opua NZ



On 13 Apr 2020, at 00:05, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

On our 1993 Super Maramu I have been trying to work out what the previous owner did regarding altering the location of the battery bank. He made many modifications and I am not always sure why he made them.

At present there are 4 batteries under the passage berth. 3 of them are in a box and there is another one underneath which is accessible by removing the forward drawer under the berth. In addition the previous owner fitted an additional battery box in the wet locker with 2 batteries in it. So we have 6 house batteries. 

In the engine compartment there is a box which just has the engine starter battery in it. It looks as if it previously also had maybe 4 house batteries in it. The battery leads are still there. I can't be sure how many batteries this box would fit because I am not anywhere near the boat.

When we can eventually get back to the boat one of the jobs I would like to do is to change over to lithium.  In order to do so I will need space for 8 batteries. I would also like to utilise the wet locker for a washing machine.

Has anyone fitted 8 batteries to this model of Amel and, if so, where did you put them?








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Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110



Jean-Pierre Germain




Location of the battery bank on an older Super Maramu

Mark Barter
 

On our 1993 Super Maramu I have been trying to work out what the previous owner did regarding altering the location of the battery bank. He made many modifications and I am not always sure why he made them.

At present there are 4 batteries under the passage berth. 3 of them are in a box and there is another one underneath which is accessible by removing the forward drawer under the berth. In addition the previous owner fitted an additional battery box in the wet locker with 2 batteries in it. So we have 6 house batteries. 

In the engine compartment there is a box which just has the engine starter battery in it. It looks as if it previously also had maybe 4 house batteries in it. The battery leads are still there. I can't be sure how many batteries this box would fit because I am not anywhere near the boat.

When we can eventually get back to the boat one of the jobs I would like to do is to change over to lithium.  In order to do so I will need space for 8 batteries. I would also like to utilise the wet locker for a washing machine.

Has anyone fitted 8 batteries to this model of Amel and, if so, where did you put them?








--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki
 

Hello Aras,
Thanks a lot for your information.
Best Regards,

Diego.


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki
 

Hello Arlo,
Thank you very much.
Ops.. I just made a change into the boat :-) I didn´t like how the kitchen drain was designed (conected with the bilge and not directly to the sea), so I made a little but very advantageous modification. I have connected it to the port deck cabin drain. I can open a new post with pictures if you are interested on it.
I just copied it from antother Sharki in my marina.

All the best,

Diego


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki
 

Bonjour Dominique,

Merci beaucoup mon ami!

Best Regards,

Diego.


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Aras
 

There is no Sharki manual.  See Bill Rouse for a "generic" manual.  Mostly references super maramus but alot applies to Sharki as well.
Aras
Sv Fiasco 
Sharki #163 1988

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 9:41 AM Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki <diegodemiguelmurillo@...> wrote:
Hello sailing mates!
I bought an Amel Sharki (nº 58 - 1982) recently.
At present I am workring into the boat set up... A lot of work to do! :-)
I am using this boat as my home and also for my project: www.sailinglivinglab.com  I am also working into this web site update. so at present you will see the boat I used before: SIGMA 38 OOD there.
I am sure than an Amel is more suitable for my project than a racing boat. I cooperate with: Tech based SMEs, Research Centers ans Universities for testing their new tech into my boat. 
We help them in communications and commercial tasks, in order to put new tech products into the market. For example SolarFace technology by Tecnalia. This tech is besed into the integration of solar cells into composite materials https://www.tecnalia.com/images/stories/energia-medioAmbiente/Downloads/SOL-EN-SOLARFACE.pdf . Thus we could manuzacture a lot of parts for our Amels with tis tech. You can see both boats and this tech in ths video (spanish) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfIyEgAz_c&t=323s

I have not found the Sharki´s owners manual in my boat. I asked to Amel directly but they have not reply to my e-mail. Could someone help me please?
I need also information about the propeller of this boat because one of my partners is going to manufacture a prototype made with Titanium por an R&D project (cathodic proteccion with impressed current)

Thank you very much for your attention to his e-mail and for allowing me to participare in this forum.

All the best,

Diego de Miguel




Re: anchor wash

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

When we bought Eleuthera, SM007, the anchor wash system was inoperative.

Our fresh water pump is a 3 bar, variable volume Marco 12 E.  Not wishing to replace the anchor wash pump, we placed a T in the fresh water feed to the forward head and now we have fresh water anchor wash.  Works fine.

We also have a Duo 100 water maker which exacerbates the high volume water use if the anchor wash.


Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 12 Apr 2020, at 00:26, greg greg <41greg.marine@...> wrote:

it makes some sense as this is the alternative flash water supply for the bow head.


Re: Sonic Speed system on an Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Thanks Bill for confirming.

Stay safe,

Arno


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Arlo
 

Welcome to the Amel family! Excellent choice of a vessel! You will find that this group is an awesome source of information. Best piece of advice I recieved was dont change anything that Amel did at the factory and if you must, wait until you have owned the boat for a year.

Enjoy! Btw very cool technology referenced on your website


Re: Clothes washer

 

That Brandt  Model  WTQ 66735E was purchased in Martinique at Darty Department Store (approx 300 euros about a year ago) https://www.darty.com/
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 2:05 PM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
Several SM owners have inquired about clothes washers for SM's
I have a Brandt  Model  WTQ 66735E.
It fits in the space and is very accessible.  It washers 6kg at a time, is quiet and energy efficient.
Attached are pictures of the washer, the wood covering and to protect the wood and add 30% more counter space 
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet
I added a counter top with fiddles and padded cleats to center it 


Clothes washer

william reynolds
 

Several SM owners have inquired about clothes washers for SM's
I have a Brandt  Model  WTQ 66735E.
It fits in the space and is very accessible.  It washers 6kg at a time, is quiet and energy efficient.
Attached are pictures of the washer, the wood covering and to protect the wood and add 30% more counter space 
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet
I added a counter top with fiddles and padded cleats to center it 


Re: Hello sailing mates!

Dom
 

Hi Diego de Miguel
Sharki is a very good choice.
Here is the user manual in French.
Welcome to the Amel family

Dominique
Cigale
Shaki #125


Hello sailing mates!

Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki
 

Hello sailing mates!
I bought an Amel Sharki (nº 58 - 1982) recently.
At present I am workring into the boat set up... A lot of work to do! :-)
I am using this boat as my home and also for my project: www.sailinglivinglab.com  I am also working into this web site update. so at present you will see the boat I used before: SIGMA 38 OOD there.
I am sure than an Amel is more suitable for my project than a racing boat. I cooperate with: Tech based SMEs, Research Centers ans Universities for testing their new tech into my boat. 
We help them in communications and commercial tasks, in order to put new tech products into the market. For example SolarFace technology by Tecnalia. This tech is besed into the integration of solar cells into composite materials https://www.tecnalia.com/images/stories/energia-medioAmbiente/Downloads/SOL-EN-SOLARFACE.pdf . Thus we could manuzacture a lot of parts for our Amels with tis tech. You can see both boats and this tech in ths video (spanish) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfIyEgAz_c&t=323s

I have not found the Sharki´s owners manual in my boat. I asked to Amel directly but they have not reply to my e-mail. Could someone help me please?
I need also information about the propeller of this boat because one of my partners is going to manufacture a prototype made with Titanium por an R&D project (cathodic proteccion with impressed current)

Thank you very much for your attention to his e-mail and for allowing me to participare in this forum.

All the best,

Diego de Miguel




Re: anchor wash

greg greg
 

it makes some sense as this is the alternative flash water supply for the bow head.


Re: Sonic Speed system on an Amel 54

 

Yes, 184-00-076 is the sensor used on the SM and 54. These originally were around 1,000.

Bill
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM Stefan Jeukendrup <sjeukendrup@...> wrote:
Hi Arno,

If a 54 indeed has the straight type like my 53, that is B&G part number 184-00-076/FI
Bought a pair( replaced & working) in August 2019 here:
https://outletspecialist.com/catalog/product/view/id/1415/?___store=nl

Just found a new offer here:
https://maxmarineelectronics.com/product/b-g-bg-sonic-speed-replacement-transducer-tube-lg-bung-sensor-184-00-076-f/

Hope this helps you,

Stefan Jeukendrup
sv Malaka Queen
Super Maramu 2000  #348


Re: Sonic Speed system on an Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Thanks all for your replies.
I did notice there are two models for the sensors. I have difficulties understanding how the straight one would sit in the hull given it’s position. At present it’s still working so no immediate action required.
I did look at the ultrasonic version as well, maybe a more sensible upgrade path. I’m thinking about replacing the current stuff B&G and Furuno Navnet 3d with a full suite of Furuno to reduce the number of brands and to reduce the massive amount of power the Navnet Blackbox is consuming. My first activity was to upgrade the monitor at the navigation desk with a touchscreen panel to support the new blackbox from Furuno.
The new blackbox solution from Furuno takes only 30% of the power the Navnet 3D is taking. I don’t really like the B&G gauges at the helm as well, they take up a lot of space and provide little information for the space they take up. They feel a bit outdated to be honest. But the total pricetag for the upgrade is still quite scary...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
St. Martin


Re: anchor wash

 

Mike,

Yes, but I knew that Cloudstreet was a SM2k, have been aboard her, and knew where to point him. During the production of the SM, the location of the anchor wash pump changed from the bow to the engine room as the SM moved toward the SM 2000 version.

You make a very good point that we all tend to miss. Amel made changes during the years that each model was produced and many Amels are modified by previous owners, then purchased by someone new to Amel. Bill Reynolds recently purchased Cloudstreet SM2k #331. Cloudstreet has enjoyed 4 very good previous owners. All of these previous owners were careful to keep her in original condition, purchasing OEM and OEM equivalent parts, and performing on-time maintenance. Regrettably, this is not true with all Amels.

I absolutely agree that we should be careful when giving advice, especially to someone new to Amel.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:36 AM Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
Not all SM’s are the same, as we all know. On ours, the anchor wash breaker is in the V-berth on the port side, fairly far forward, a white box with an icon of waves on it.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
San Juan, Puerto Rico
But I’m in the continental US

On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:24 AM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

The anchor wash switch is powered up all the time with everything turned off. Not good.
Nothing in the Amel  wiring schematics show the wiring . Anyone know where to interrupt 
the voltage with a separate switch?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2k #331


Re: anchor wash

Thomas Peacock
 

Not all SM’s are the same, as we all know. On ours, the anchor wash breaker is in the V-berth on the port side, fairly far forward, a white box with an icon of waves on it.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
San Juan, Puerto Rico
But I’m in the continental US

On Apr 10, 2020, at 7:24 AM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

The anchor wash switch is powered up all the time with everything turned off. Not good.
Nothing in the Amel  wiring schematics show the wiring . Anyone know where to interrupt 
the voltage with a separate switch?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2k #331


Re: anchor wash

 

Bill,

The following photo is from the A-54 Manual, but the breaker box is similar to the one on your SM inside the engine room on the bulkhead. Note the red circle.  The anchor wash breaker is "EAU MER."
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The following photo is from your SM2000 Amel Manual, page 39. Note the red circle.

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
The anchor wash switch is powered up all the time with everything turned off. Not good.
Nothing in the Amel  wiring schematics show the wiring . Anyone know where to interrupt 
the voltage with a separate switch?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2k #331


Re: anchor wash

 

Breaker is on the breaker box inside the engine room. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 6:24 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
The anchor wash switch is powered up all the time with everything turned off. Not good.
Nothing in the Amel  wiring schematics show the wiring . Anyone know where to interrupt 
the voltage with a separate switch?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2k #331