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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Kent,

As it stands now, the manifold is planned to be produced in the SM 2000 configuration. I am also planning that it be shipped with 2 plugs. 
For pre-SM2k both of the portside valves would be turned off and/or plugged by the owner
For Amel 54 one of the portside valves would be turned off and/or plugged by the owner

The next step is a trial installation. An A-54 owner has agreed to purchase the first production manifold and install it.

As soon as I know more, I will post in the Group and on Facebook

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:12 AM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm interested.
I have three outputs on the manifold, Yanmar, Onan, and AC. The heads each have separate through hulls.
Kent
SM 243 , 
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

karkauai
 

I'm interested.
I have three outputs on the manifold, Yanmar, Onan, and AC. The heads each have separate through hulls.
Kent
SM 243 , 
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Dear Martin and Anke, thank you for telling me your story since we last said goodbye in the Beagle waters.
We still stay until 2011 and after 16 years, with big sadness, we returned to Buenos Aires.
In that time we worked 3 seasons in Italy on a beautiful Solaris 72.
In Uruguay we did some important works to Saudade III and then we navigate two years in Brazilian waters to finally get in 2018 to the Lesser Antilles.
This year we were blocked at Martinique because of the pandemic. We would always intend to find a nice SM 2000, but with this situations of uncertainty we prefer to stay in standby for the moment.

In 2016 after a year of hard work, the third edition of our Patagonia nautical guide came out, ready to corrupt the tropical dreams of some sailor, persuading him to go to Polynesia passing through the classic route!
So far no one who has taken that decision has ever complained, indeed several of them have regrets of not to be stayed longer in that waters!
Congratulations for your new 54, Mago del Sur (wow, what evocative name!), a magnificent yacht that certainly will give you so much satisfaction!

We stay in touch and who knows if there is an opportunity to cross our routes again.
A big hug to you and Anke and fair wind.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sv Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Mar 8 Dic 2020, 17:03 Martin Birkhoff <mbirkhoff@...> ha scritto:

Wow, what a surprise, Giorgio,


we never expected to meet you this way. How are you and Mariolina? Nice to hear that you are sailing “Saudade III” still today. Now you can recognize your long lasting influence to our decisions!


Dear Amelians, reading Giorgios unexpected email and your welcoming responses makes us feel like joining a family.


Georgio, in 2007 we continued north from Ushuaia, had to cancel our trip to Juan Fernandez island due to cracks in our mast support and to head for Higuerillas, Chile. After finishing the repairs we sailed the Chilean and Peruvian coast northbound, visited Galapagos and continued to French Polynesia. From Tahiti Anke had to return to Germany in June 2008. The Government refused to extend her leave and she decided not to quit her job. I promised to sail back “Just do it” to Bremen within 12 month. I returned via Red Sea and Med but failed the promised time. “Just do its” arrived in her homeport in October 2009. By the way, after our first proof while sailing Anke and I continued the proofing process some 6 further years. After ten years of proofing we decided this should be sufficient and married in 2015.

We still keep your Patagonian Guide and it will guide us during the next years for sure. We still keep the Atlas Hydrografico de Chile too. Rich memories and useful.


Martin and Anke
SV Mago del Sur – 54#40


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Mark. As an alternative to consider, here’s a different approach. After thoroughly cleaning out the old material I filled the hole with white silicone. It tends to shrink while curing so I left a significant crown of material when filling each hole. Then after several days (maybe a week to be sure) of curing cut the silicone flush with a razor blade. Very clean result and it looks like new after 4 years. Have not had the “opportunity” to dig one out to verify adhesion. I would be very interested to hear of other‘s solutions.

Mike Ondra
ALETES SM#240
Rock Hall, MD


On Dec 8, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:



I am getting ready to tackle a project I have been putting off for a while. I need to replace the screw cover plugs in the genoa track. I would like to get this right the first time and not have to redo this.

 

I ordered plugs from Amel. I was sent white semi opaque plugs the exact size of the hole. I am not sure these are going to have much UV protection so I have a question to those who have done this. Did you cover or treat the top of the plug with something such as paint before installation?

 

I have some Dow 737 goop to seal the plugs (this was recommended on this forum). I do not think this has any UV protection properties, so again, the same question. How do I protect the plug?

 

Many thanks.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater

karkauai
 

Hi Pat,
Great, I'm going to give it a try.

It's going to have to wait, though, we've decided to cancel our sailing plans until the Covid rules stabilize... the BVI approach finally did it for me. Kristy will stay on the hard in Cambridge until Spring. I'll winterize her tomorrow and finish getting my new shop ready. Building cabinets, dust collection system, then restart on the wherry I was building when I sold the place in NC.
Hope you and Diane are having a good holiday season.

Best from Iris and I to you and all the rest of the extended Amel family.
Kent & Iris
SV Kristy
SM 243

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Bill and all Ameliens,

Thanks so much for this very special support and initiative, to improve and maintain our beloved boats.

Thanks for offer, Yes please, i´m interested too.

Merry Christmas to all, a happy and hopefully almost health New Year. Wherever you currently stay and sail.
we will see us again, like Martin and Giorgo…

Stay safe. Thanks for all your incomparable ideas and support.

Best wishes from cold drizzling snowy Germany.
Fair winds and a hand of whisky in the bilge.

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“
A54 #088
Leros / Greece

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Gib Track Plugs

Mark Erdos
 

I am getting ready to tackle a project I have been putting off for a while. I need to replace the screw cover plugs in the genoa track. I would like to get this right the first time and not have to redo this.

 

I ordered plugs from Amel. I was sent white semi opaque plugs the exact size of the hole. I am not sure these are going to have much UV protection so I have a question to those who have done this. Did you cover or treat the top of the plug with something such as paint before installation?

 

I have some Dow 737 goop to seal the plugs (this was recommended on this forum). I do not think this has any UV protection properties, so again, the same question. How do I protect the plug?

 

Many thanks.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, I did , I used 4" flex duct used to vent dryers. It provide a fair amount of warm air to the helm. Say Hi !  to Iris .
Happy Holidays,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater

Has anyone routed the engine room vent exhaust (not the engine exhaust) into the cockpit for warmth?  There shouldn't be any carbon monoxide in it, but might have a little oil or diesel, ir bilge smell depending on how clean the engine room is. Seems like it would be an easy solution and produce a lot if heat. Might even warm the salon a bit.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Arno,

That will be my next project. 

For some unknown reason, my experience is that the 54 primary manifold, even though technically the same as the SM, seems to fail before the SM.  I think it has something to do with the threaded section of that part. It seems to oxidize like mild steel. Since I am not aboard a SM or 54, I am not able to make a comparrison of the two. Also, I am not sure why Amel turned the output of the sea chest to the starboard side of the sea chest on the 54. The output of the sea on the SM is on the port side of the sea chest, as well as most of the things connected. 

I am getting ahead of myself, but it would be great if the same PVC replacement for the primary saltwater manifold could be used on both the SM & 54 by turning the sea chest on the 54 about 180 degrees.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I’m interested as well (SV Luna A54-121). Can they also offer an alternative for the Primary manifold? 

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Bill,

I’m interested as well (SV Luna A54-121). Can they also offer an alternative for the Primary manifold? 

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Teun BAAS
 

Interested

 

Best Regards Teun

December 8, 2020 17:21:51

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:47
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Hi Bill;

 

Thanks for your ongoing involvement and time spent improving our Amels.

 

Interested.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 11:03 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Interested.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.

Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:

 

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.

 

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.

 

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

 

Thanks, 

 

Bill

 

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Nick Fowle <nhfowle@...>
 

Yes please


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Stefan and Anne Deerberg
 

Hi together!

Interested!

All the best

Stefan and Anne Deerberg 
SV OYA
SM 373, Le Marin, Martinique 

Mobil: +49 172 7757444
stefan.deerberg@...
www.deerberg.de



Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med

karkauai
 

Hi JB,
Welcome to the AYOG and congrats on your new to you Amel.
As previously noted, a year or so ago, two members with some Insurance know-how tackled the possibility of a group policy, but ran into roadblocks and finally gave up. There are a substantial number if owners here (ask on the separate Facebook page for others who might not be members here) who are very interested in pursuing the idea, ir at least participating if it can be done.

Do a search for Insurance and you will find a thread that gives some info.

If you want to pursue it further, I can send you some email threads about discussions among the group of 4 who spent a good bit of energy on it and could tell you what the biggest hurdles were if that isn't clear in the emails.

Happy Holidays!
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Dean Gillies
 

Welcome to the Amel group! 

I visited Bremen many times with business in the nineties and noughties, although so many times in the wintertime.  A bit cold at this time!
Jan and I live in Australia but our 54 is in Scotland right now. We also are planning a crossing of the pond, supposed to be happening just about now, but I suspect it may be 2022 before we are able to do this.

Wishing you fair winds and following seas with Mago del Sur.

Dean & Jan Gillies
SV Stella A54-154


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Martin Birkhoff
 

Wow, what a surprise, Giorgio,


we never expected to meet you this way. How are you and Mariolina? Nice to hear that you are sailing “Saudade III” still today. Now you can recognize your long lasting influence to our decisions!


Dear Amelians, reading Giorgios unexpected email and your welcoming responses makes us feel like joining a family.


Georgio, in 2007 we continued north from Ushuaia, had to cancel our trip to Juan Fernandez island due to cracks in our mast support and to head for Higuerillas, Chile. After finishing the repairs we sailed the Chilean and Peruvian coast northbound, visited Galapagos and continued to French Polynesia. From Tahiti Anke had to return to Germany in June 2008. The Government refused to extend her leave and she decided not to quit her job. I promised to sail back “Just do it” to Bremen within 12 month. I returned via Red Sea and Med but failed the promised time. “Just do its” arrived in her homeport in October 2009. By the way, after our first proof while sailing Anke and I continued the proofing process some 6 further years. After ten years of proofing we decided this should be sufficient and married in 2015.

We still keep your Patagonian Guide and it will guide us during the next years for sure. We still keep the Atlas Hydrografico de Chile too. Rich memories and useful.


Martin and Anke
SV Mago del Sur – 54#40


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Dean Gillies
 

Interested.

Dean,
SV Stella A54-154


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Doug Smith
 

Interested

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113, Aventura
Patuxant River MD, USA
Dugsmith98@...
 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

 

Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.

Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:

<image001.png>

 

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.

<image002.png>

 

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.

<image003.png>

 

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

 

Thanks, 

 

Bill

 

<image004.jpg>

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Welcome Anke and Martin;

 

I’m sure you will get to enjoy and appreciate your Amel, as much as we do. It is great platform for exploration, adventure, relaxation and access to remote areas. Looks like you have already checked off a few of these on your previous expeditions.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin Birkhoff via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] It´s time to introduce ourselves.

 

It´s time to introduce ourselves.
We are Anke and Martin Birkhoff from Worpswede in Germany. Homeport of our Amel is Bremen, Germany.

We started our sailing careers in 1978 (Anke) and (1985) Martin. Since 1998 we spent our time sailing SV “Just do it” a bilge keel 39 feet Reinke Super 11. This is a double chine aluminum design of German engineer Kurt Reinke. Sailing areas have been Baltic Ocean and North Sea. From 2004 to 2009 we made a circumnavigation including Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego. Here it happened after meeting Mariolina Rolfo and Giorgio Adrizzi and their Amel "Saudade III" in Ushuaia that we decided if we ever would buy a GRP design it has to be an Amel.

In 2016 we changed to our 54 Mago del Sur (ex Bronwyn owned by Robin Griffith who did a circumnavigation with her from 2011 to 2013). During the last years she got a refit and now she is ready to start milemunching again. Ok, there are still one or two repairs to be done ...

Anke and I are landscape architects. She is civil servant in the Government of Bremen, I Martin had run my own company for environmental impact studies and landscape architecture.

We plan to sail the Med in 2021 and leave for Caribean waters end of the year. Than continuing through the Panama Chanal and heading South to Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego again. To be continued …

Martin

SV Mago del Sur – 54#40


Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Dear Anke and Martin and Dear Judy and Ian, I'm very happy to find you in this glorious group.
I remember perfectly about you and also for me nostalgia for that remote corner of earth is always very strong. After almost 30 years of cruises, I keep thinking that an Amel was the best choice I could do and if I ever change Saudade III will be for another Amel!
A great hug and good navigations wherever you are!

Giorgio Ardrizzi 
sy Saudade III - Sharki #1
Sainte Anne - Martinique

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