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Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

 

Ken,

You probably are aware of the fact that the copper pipe vent for the fuel tank is above the area where you have a leak, and this copper vent pipe will create more water than you may realize because of condensation. I bring this up because you are focussed on the chainplate on the starboard side/aft. 

In certain climate conditions, we experienced more condensation because of that copper fuel tank vent than we thought would happen, and we did not notice the cause until after we smelled mold.

Just a thought that I had that I am sure you are aware of.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 8:47 PM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Paul,

Thanks for the response.  Are there nuts under the rub rail, because the bolt heads are in the closet?  Or, are the bolts threaded into the chainplate somehow?  Other questions...  There is also one bolt head holding the chainplate to the side of the boat for the outside.  This single bolt head is near the middle of the chain plate facing out.  Is this bolt treaded into a nut embedded in fiberglass, or will I have to find the nut on the inside of the boat.  I can't see at this time where the nut would be.  Also, anyone that has had the problem know the correct way to repair the leak?  I am worried about putting on a bunch of sealant on the stainless steel which may promote the stainless steel to corrode.

Thanks for the help.

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
Currently in Thailand


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi Ken, did you consider Butyl tape as a sealant? Many prefer it to seal hatches, it stays tacky for years and years and you can easily remove it if needed. 

Regards,
Ruslan. 
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Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Billy Newport
 

For reattaching the interior

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Hi-Strength-90-Spray-Adhesive/?N=5002385+3293242219&rt=rud

Here is a video doing something similar on a nordhavn

https://youtu.be/6_U84YwUk5w

Skip to about 12 minutes


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Thanks to all you Amelians for helping me through this mess!  I think I have a good procedure for the repair now.  But as aways, subject to change once I get into job.  It looks as though it should take all of 3 hours to complete this task, but as boat jobs go, I alway grossly underestimate time required 'til completion.

So, here is my revised plan of attack for this
1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate.
2.  Clean hole and bolt with acetone.  
3.  Verify no damage or pitting to the bolts. 
4.  Tape off area that I don't want to be covered in 4200.
5.  Put good amount of 4200 into hole.  Use a small toothbrush or q-tip to make sure that 4200 is completely covering the walls of bolt hole.
6 . Replace bolts and nuts.
7.  Repeat (1 to 6)  until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time under the rub rail rubber. 
8. Glue interior back together.  Planing to use 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive.  This part should be straightforward.
9. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece.  Using lots of soap and a bit of water!

If anyone has any suggestions, or reasons why I should change the process, let me know?

Thank you all!!

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand


Re: Leather steering wheel cover install

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Tom and Kirstin,
We did our wheel with a kit from Boat Leather in 2017.
How you are holding it in the pic is exactly how we did it.
I sewed the cover up to where it meets the spoke cover, pulled the thread tight up to the spoke cover and then brought it through the back to the other side and carried on sewing.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

James Alton
 

Ken,

    My boat is a 1987 Maramu so consider this information general in nature to your situation.  I would suggest that you start by removing one bolt  to see what kind of sealant was used originally.  If you find that silicone caulking was used it will be the easiest to go back again with the same material since most products will not bond well to silicone.   If the original caulking is silicone and you want to use the 5200,  you will need to mechanically remove all traces of the silicone to get a good bond.  Regardless of the sealant to be used,  I would suggest removing as much of the original sealant as possible since your best bond will be to the fiberglass and metal surfaces.  One upside to the 5200 in your rainy situation is that it won't care if it gets wet during the curing process but silicones can work fine as a sealant too.  Just be really sure that the surfaces you are applying the caulking to are dry to get the best adhesion.  Gentle heating with a hair dryer can remove the moisture and so long as the surfaces remain warm you won't have any condensation.  Complete removal of the chainplate is preferrable but you should be able to restore the seal by just rebedding the offending bolts. I would clean up and inspect the bolts to be sure that you don't have any pitting or corrosion since salt water has been in there.  No need to worry about cleaning caulking from the threads, in fact I would leave it to help lock the nuts.  None of the caulkings are strong enough to prevent the removal of the nuts in the future. In the case of a chainplate adherred with 5200 to the gelcoat, you can also be temporarily weaken a polyurathene caulking like 5200 by carefully heating the metal to reduce or eliminate damage to the gelcoat.  Best of luck.

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2020 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Hi Erik,

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following.

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate.
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol.
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole.
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt.
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts? 
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision?
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men.
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece.

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure?

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

eric freedman
 

Hi David,
What you are referring to as Barge cement sounds exactly like Contact cement is applied. My shoemaker uses contact cement. It is also used to adhere laminates such as Formica to countertops.
Fair Winds,
Eric

On October 14, 2020 at 3:09 AM david bruce <davidcbruce57@...> wrote:

Hi Ken, 

 I’d second Eric’s suggestion to use 4200 (or Sikaflex 291), 5200 is primarily an adhesive, not really needed in your application, additionally they are more flexible than 5200 thus less likely to micro crack over time.   Just a heads up on a couple other issues I came across, neither 4200 or 5200 specifically mentions using on SS, just aluminum or (other metals), there have been accounts of 5200 curing poorly or not at all in very hot, humid climates and a couple years ago there was a major recall of defective 5200 in Australia. ( not sure where it all went, Thailand perhaps? :),  As far as the headliner, I haven’t had much luck w contact cement but Barge cement works well, used for shoe soles initially, just thin layer both sides, let dry, put together, (and need to get it right the first time, won’t readily come apart to flatten wrinkles etc.  Good luck. 

Dave Bruce
Liesse SN006
Preveza



On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:52 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ken, 
Thanks for the photos. 
I would prefer to use 4200 over 5200. 5200 is very permanent. Is there a reason you want to use a strong adhesive versus a strong sealant? 
The bolts are doing the adhesion, I think you just need to waterproof the bolt holes. The area around the holes might be rotten and the bolts might be corroded due to anaerobic corrosion. I had this happen on another boat of mine. I was on one side of a chain plate with a wrench on the bolt. I asked my friend to turn the bolt. He said he was turning it. nothing was happening on my end. 
The bolt was completely corroded through . 
Fair Winds, 
Eric 

On October 14, 2020 at 2:30 AM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote: 

Hi Erik, 

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following. 

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate. 
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol. 
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole. 
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt. 
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts?  
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision? 
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men. 
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece. 

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure? 

Ken 
Aquarius SM2K#262 
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand 

 


 

 


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

david bruce
 

Hi Ken, 

 I’d second Eric’s suggestion to use 4200 (or Sikaflex 291), 5200 is primarily an adhesive, not really needed in your application, additionally they are more flexible than 5200 thus less likely to micro crack over time.   Just a heads up on a couple other issues I came across, neither 4200 or 5200 specifically mentions using on SS, just aluminum or (other metals), there have been accounts of 5200 curing poorly or not at all in very hot, humid climates and a couple years ago there was a major recall of defective 5200 in Australia. ( not sure where it all went, Thailand perhaps? :),  As far as the headliner, I haven’t had much luck w contact cement but Barge cement works well, used for shoe soles initially, just thin layer both sides, let dry, put together, (and need to get it right the first time, won’t readily come apart to flatten wrinkles etc.  Good luck. 

Dave Bruce
Liesse SN006
Preveza



On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:52 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ken, 
Thanks for the photos. 
I would prefer to use 4200 over 5200. 5200 is very permanent. Is there a reason you want to use a strong adhesive versus a strong sealant? 
The bolts are doing the adhesion, I think you just need to waterproof the bolt holes. The area around the holes might be rotten and the bolts might be corroded due to anaerobic corrosion. I had this happen on another boat of mine. I was on one side of a chain plate with a wrench on the bolt. I asked my friend to turn the bolt. He said he was turning it. nothing was happening on my end. 
The bolt was completely corroded through . 
Fair Winds, 
Eric 

On October 14, 2020 at 2:30 AM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote: 

Hi Erik, 

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following. 

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate. 
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol. 
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole. 
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt. 
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts?  
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision? 
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men. 
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece. 

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure? 

Ken 
Aquarius SM2K#262 
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand 

 


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

James Cromie
 

Hi Ken.  
Sounds like a good plan.  
I have found that 5200 on the threads doesn’t present any great difficult in removing the hardware down the road if needed.  The greater challenge is avoiding getting that gooey marshmellow on everything else!

I have found simple contact cement  or some version of that works just fine for reapplying loose edges of headliner.  

Use acetone instead of alcohol - better for removing all residue from surfaces prior to applying adhesive.  Just be careful not to get it on any plexiglass in the process.

Best,
James
Soteria
SM2K 347, Anacortes

On Oct 13, 2020, at 23:30, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Hi Erik,

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following.

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate.
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol.
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole.
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt.
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts? 
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision?
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men.
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece.

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure?

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand <DSC08697.JPG><DSC08698.JPG><DSC08691.JPG><DSC08684.JPG>


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

eric freedman
 

Hi Ken,
Thanks for the photos.
I would prefer to use 4200 over 5200. 5200 is very permanent. Is there a reason you want to use a strong adhesive versus a strong sealant?
The bolts are doing the adhesion, I think you just need to waterproof the bolt holes. The area around the holes might be rotten and the bolts might be corroded due to anaerobic corrosion. I had this happen on another boat of mine. I was on one side of a chain plate with a wrench on the bolt. I asked my friend to turn the bolt. He said he was turning it. nothing was happening on my end.
The bolt was completely corroded through .
Fair Winds,
Eric

On October 14, 2020 at 2:30 AM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Hi Erik,

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following.

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate.
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol.
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole.
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt.
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts? 
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision?
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men.
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece.

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure?

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand

 


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Hi Erik,

Here are some photos of the job at hand!  I talked with some local boaties here at Krabi Boat Lagoon, and they suggested 5200.  It has been raining for 5 days straight, and looks like it will continue for the next 6 days. I am thinking once it stops for a day or two, I will do the following.

1.  Remove 1 or 2 of the bolts.  Not to remove the entire chainplate.
2.  Clean hole and bolt with alcohol.
3.  Put good amount of 5200 into hole.
4. Replace bolt or bolts and try to get as much of the 5200 off the treads.  So that I don't glue the nut onto the bolt.
      I am told that this will not be a problem, any thoughts? 
5.  Repeat until finished with all the bolts.  Except, I am only planing to do the 4 bottom bolts under the rub rail, not the single bolt in the middle of the chainplate.  This bolt does not show signs of leaking, and even if it did, the leak should be at most, minor, due to the location.  Unlike the 4 bottom bolts which could submersed in water for extended periods of time.  And thoughts about this decision?
6. Glue interior back together.  Still wondering what adhesive to use to re-attach the interior lining.   It's like Humpty Dumpty, just hope I don't need all the Kings Horses, and all the Kings men.
7. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece.

Anyone have thoughts about my intended procedure?

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
In Krabi Boat Lagoon, Thailand


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

eric freedman
 

Hi Ken
Do you have any photos?
Fair Winds
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite

On October 13, 2020 at 11:33 PM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

I pulled the rub rail up from aft to the chainplate, and now can see the nuts.  Does anyone have a procedure how to reseal the chainplate bolt holes?  Should I remove the entire chainplate, or just remove each bolt and fill the hole with sealant?  What type of sealant is best for this job?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K#262
Thailand

 


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 
Edited

Hello All,

I pulled the rub rail up from aft to the chainplate, and now can see the nuts.  Does anyone have a procedure how to reseal the chainplate bolt holes?  Should I remove the entire chainplate, or just remove each bolt and fill the hole with sealant?  What type of sealant is best for this job?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K#262
Thailand


Leather steering wheel cover install

Thomas Kleman
 

So, with eyes wide open from the mixed reviews we've heard on this site and from non-Amel friends (yes, we have a few) we bought the boat leather.com kit. Truth be told, it fits perfectly. The only issue seems to be the connection of the spoke covers to the wheel cover. Does it go under or over ? And how is it attached and in what sequence ? Anyone have a pic of their install ? Thanks.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422 SV L'ORIENT
Oahu


Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 
Edited

Hello Paul,

Thanks for the response.  Are there nuts under the rub rail, because the bolt heads are in the closet?  Or, are the bolts threaded into the chainplate somehow?  Other questions...  There is also one bolt head holding the chainplate to the side of the boat for the outside.  This single bolt head is near the middle of the chain plate facing out.  Is this bolt treaded into a nut embedded in fiberglass, or will I have to find the nut on the inside of the boat.  I can't see at this time where the nut would be.  Also, anyone that has had the problem know the correct way to repair the leak?  I am worried about putting on a bunch of sealant on the stainless steel which may promote the stainless steel to corrode.

Thanks for the help.

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262
Currently in Thailand


Re: If you missed Jimmy Cornell

JOHN HAYES
 

Thanks very much Bill. Absolutely under stand the pressure he will be under
Best


On 14/10/2020, at 10:43 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


John,

I spoke to Jimmy Cornell. He has no time to do it before he departs on his next circumnavigation.

He and I discussed him doing a Pacific Crossing ZOOM while he is actually crossing the Pacific.

Hopefully, it will work out!

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
John. 
Great Question!!

Thanks


Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Moorea
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Oct 11, 2020, at 12:50 PM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:



Many thanks for setting this up Bill and also to Tilo for putting it on UTube.

 

Wonder if at some point Jimmy might do a chapter  from Panama into the Pacific and beyond to the west

 

Best

 

John Hayes

Nga Waka

 

Wellington NZ

 

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Reply to: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 12 October 2020 at 1:41 AM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] If you missed Jimmy Cornell

 

The quality of your reception is based on your internet connection, and each of the participants. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 12:07 AM Harry and Mora Thompson via groups.io <HarryT1952=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Bill

When I try to listen to it, the audio is broken up.

But thanks for taking the time to put it together. 

Harry

 



On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:38 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:



The entire session is recorded here on YouTube: 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar


Re: If you missed Jimmy Cornell

 

John,

I spoke to Jimmy Cornell. He has no time to do it before he departs on his next circumnavigation.

He and I discussed him doing a Pacific Crossing ZOOM while he is actually crossing the Pacific.

Hopefully, it will work out!

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
John. 
Great Question!!

Thanks


Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Moorea
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Oct 11, 2020, at 12:50 PM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:



Many thanks for setting this up Bill and also to Tilo for putting it on UTube.

 

Wonder if at some point Jimmy might do a chapter  from Panama into the Pacific and beyond to the west

 

Best

 

John Hayes

Nga Waka

 

Wellington NZ

 

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Reply to: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 12 October 2020 at 1:41 AM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] If you missed Jimmy Cornell

 

The quality of your reception is based on your internet connection, and each of the participants. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 12:07 AM Harry and Mora Thompson via groups.io <HarryT1952=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Bill

When I try to listen to it, the audio is broken up.

But thanks for taking the time to put it together. 

Harry

 



On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:38 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:



The entire session is recorded here on YouTube: 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar


Re: Sq. footage of hull

 

Pat,

I can tell you that the many times we painted the bottom, it took most of a 20-liter pale (available in most parts of the world). We painted 2 full coats and a 3rd on the waterline, keel, skeg, and rudder.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Pat,

 

I don’t know the sq ft but, I have always estimated 4 gallons for three coats. Also, I add an extra gallon for extra paint at the water-line and downward about one foot. Total: 5 gallons.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:08 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Sq. footage of hull

 

I am buying Interprotect 2000 and I want to order the correct number of gallons to do three coats. Does anyone know how many sq. feet the hull is on a SM ? If I ever knew I have forgotten. 
Thanks, 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Kent--The Onan switches are here.

eric freedman
 

 

Thanks Eric,

Ive had two go bad in the last year. Please order three for me.

 

We'll be coming down from Maine in late Sept.  Will you be home then?

Thanks.

Kent & Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 

On Jul 28, 2020 8:37 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I have broken a few of these switches over the years. I have done this by reaching over the generator to retrieve something stored behind the genset.

I received a quote from my Onan dealer and on Amazon for around $90- plus tax which is ridiculous.

I tracked down the OEM manufacturer and the cost is about $23- plus a one time set up fee of about $50- I plan on ordering 2 of these. They stated that they make this for ONAN. If anyone is interested please let me know and I can order them for you $33- each plus USPS of about $8.00.

I will order the switches within a week.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite 

 


Re: Sq. footage of hull

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

I don’t know the sq ft but, I have always estimated 4 gallons for three coats. Also, I add an extra gallon for extra paint at the water-line and downward about one foot. Total: 5 gallons.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:08 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Sq. footage of hull

 

I am buying Interprotect 2000 and I want to order the correct number of gallons to do three coats. Does anyone know how many sq. feet the hull is on a SM ? If I ever knew I have forgotten. 
Thanks, 
Pat
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