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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

svsummerlove@...
 

Hi Leo,

Thank you so much for your help on this.

I'm fairly sure it's an Eaton timer.  It is white and the manufacturer's part number is:  EC 4692.01 A 01 220/240V 50HZ T.70 6-00-36.

The dishwasher worked when I left the boat on the hard. When I returned 6 months later,  it would not work. 

It's been a while since I did this trouble shooting, so I may not be completely accurate in my recollection. I'm also not an appliance repair tech, so I was just trying to narrow things down using logic.  I don't know if the timer is the culprit, but this is the sequence of steps I took that made me suspect it could be:

1. When it was turned on and the lid closed, the lamp lit, the water inlet valve operated, water began to fill the tub, the circulation pump did NOT turn on, the water inlet valve closed when the tub water was at operating level, and the heating element turned on.  The circulation pump did not operate at any stage.  

2. Using the schematics (Tafel 7) and timer sequence table (Tafel 8) on Siete 14 and 16 of the Eudora Soba docs, I disconnected circulation pump motor (M1) and confirmed that it operated on 220V 50HZ AC in stand-alone mode. 

3. After reconnecting it, I confirmed the door switch (TS) was operational, power was present at terminals A3 and A12 (i.e both sides of the winding for the circulation pump M1), and the capacitor on M1 was not shorted or open. 

4. I then bridged terminal A3 to A1, thereby bypassing contact "c" on timer switch 1, and circulation pump M1 operated.  I concluded from this there was either an open in the path from A3 to timer switch 1, an open from timer switch 1 contact "c" to terminal A1, or a failure of timer switch 1 to close the path through contact "c". 

Since all 3 of those possibilities are inside the program timer, I suspected that as the defective part.

That said, I'd be elated if they tell me I'm wrong, and there's another available (and hopefully cheaper) part that's at fault.  :-)

Thanks again Leo,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel logo - high quality vector drawing?

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

If you look up Amel on the internet, you will find several examples. I gave the photo to a monogram business and they converted it to make canvas ditty bags.

Ric

SN24 Bali Hai

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 9:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel logo - high quality vector drawing?

 

 

Hi, does anyone could send me (or share in "file" space) the Logo file? I need to replace stickers on both side and why not...print it on towels! The best would be have it in vector file...

 

redpassion2000 at gmail com

 

Thank you, Lorenzo

 

SM2k Red Passion

Hull 420

Now moored in Livorno, ITA


Re: Amel logo - high quality vector drawing?

ferruccilorenzo@...
 

Hi, does anyone could send me (or share in "file" space) the Logo file? I need to replace stickers on both side and why not...print it on towels! The best would be have it in vector file...

redpassion2000 at gmail com

Thank you, Lorenzo

SM2k Red Passion
Hull 420
Now moored in Livorno, ITA


Re: Windlass identification old Maramu 1989 #261

Andy Croney
 

Hi Ross,

We are having a solar arch installed on our Maramu in the near future , happy to share .

Fair winds

Andy

Maramu #75


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

Mark Erdos
 

Phew! Thanks Joel. I had a small coronary there.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 8:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

 

 

Hi Mark. As I mentioned, this unit is not similar to what you have on your SM 53. Counter rotating dual props. Better seals. It is an improvement in every way. No, not able to be retrofitted....

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist 

                THE AMEL GUY

                 954 812 2485


On May 4, 2015, at 8:40 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

There’s zincs on the bow thruster?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

 

 

Hi Jeff. Your bow thruster is actually a SIDEPOWER drive unit with an Amel designed and manufactured extension and retraction unit. You will have information on the unit in the ‘black’ binders for all the machinery/options. It is serviced and supported by the marine giant IMTRA here in North America. www.imtra.com <http://www.imtra.com> . They have the zincs as will most of the bigger/better shipyards as these units are used quite extensively these days. I replaced mine twice and got them from the guy who serviced the bottom for me, Silvio at P&S Services at Lauderdale Marine Center, who, in my experience is as good as they get for anything related to boat bottom servicing, from his stock. They are not hard to source. Have fun with your AMEL.

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:06 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

I'm currently hauled out, and returned to the boat to finalize plans to launch.

I noticed that there are 2 zincs on the bow thruster propellors. Mine are about 1/3 gone, and I was wondering if any 54 owners have found a source other then Amel to get them. I'm going to see what I can find here in Charleston, but they look like they may be a custom item. I will make sure the screws come out easily so that they can be replaced while in the water, in any case/

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

amelforme
 

Hi Mark. As I mentioned, this unit is not similar to what you have on your SM 53. Counter rotating dual props. Better seals. It is an improvement in every way. No, not able to be retrofitted....

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist 
                THE AMEL GUY
                 954 812 2485

On May 4, 2015, at 8:40 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

There’s zincs on the bow thruster?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

 

 

Hi Jeff. Your bow thruster is actually a SIDEPOWER drive unit with an Amel designed and manufactured extension and retraction unit. You will have information on the unit in the ‘black’ binders for all the machinery/options. It is serviced and supported by the marine giant IMTRA here in North America. www.imtra.com <http://www.imtra.com> . They have the zincs as will most of the bigger/better shipyards as these units are used quite extensively these days. I replaced mine twice and got them from the guy who serviced the bottom for me, Silvio at P&S Services at Lauderdale Marine Center, who, in my experience is as good as they get for anything related to boat bottom servicing, from his stock. They are not hard to source. Have fun with your AMEL.

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:06 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

I'm currently hauled out, and returned to the boat to finalize plans to launch.

I noticed that there are 2 zincs on the bow thruster propellors. Mine are about 1/3 gone, and I was wondering if any 54 owners have found a source other then Amel to get them. I'm going to see what I can find here in Charleston, but they look like they may be a custom item. I will make sure the screws come out easily so that they can be replaced while in the water, in any case/

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

Mark Erdos
 

There’s zincs on the bow thruster?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

 

 

Hi Jeff. Your bow thruster is actually a SIDEPOWER drive unit with an Amel designed and manufactured extension and retraction unit. You will have information on the unit in the ‘black’ binders for all the machinery/options. It is serviced and supported by the marine giant IMTRA here in North America. www.imtra.com <http://www.imtra.com> . They have the zincs as will most of the bigger/better shipyards as these units are used quite extensively these days. I replaced mine twice and got them from the guy who serviced the bottom for me, Silvio at P&S Services at Lauderdale Marine Center, who, in my experience is as good as they get for anything related to boat bottom servicing, from his stock. They are not hard to source. Have fun with your AMEL.

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:06 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

I'm currently hauled out, and returned to the boat to finalize plans to launch.

I noticed that there are 2 zincs on the bow thruster propellors. Mine are about 1/3 gone, and I was wondering if any 54 owners have found a source other then Amel to get them. I'm going to see what I can find here in Charleston, but they look like they may be a custom item. I will make sure the screws come out easily so that they can be replaced while in the water, in any case/

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54

amelforme
 

Hi Jeff. Your bow thruster is actually a SIDEPOWER drive unit with an Amel designed and manufactured extension and retraction unit. You will have information on the unit in the ‘black’ binders for all the machinery/options. It is serviced and supported by the marine giant IMTRA here in North America. www.imtra.com <http://www.imtra.com> . They have the zincs as will most of the bigger/better shipyards as these units are used quite extensively these days. I replaced mine twice and got them from the guy who serviced the bottom for me, Silvio at P&S Services at Lauderdale Marine Center, who, in my experience is as good as they get for anything related to boat bottom servicing, from his stock. They are not hard to source. Have fun with your AMEL.



Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 7:06 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster zincs for 54





I'm currently hauled out, and returned to the boat to finalize plans to launch.

I noticed that there are 2 zincs on the bow thruster propellors. Mine are about 1/3 gone, and I was wondering if any 54 owners have found a source other then Amel to get them. I'm going to see what I can find here in Charleston, but they look like they may be a custom item. I will make sure the screws come out easily so that they can be replaced while in the water, in any case/

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit





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bow thruster zincs for 54

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

I'm currently hauled out, and returned to the boat to finalize plans to launch.

I noticed that there are 2 zincs on the bow thruster propellors. Mine are about 1/3 gone, and I was wondering if any 54 owners have found a source other then Amel to get them. I'm going to see what I can find here in Charleston, but they look like they may be a custom item. I will make sure the screws come out easily so that they can be replaced while in the water, in any case/

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit


Re: ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Duane,
The white froth, as Olivier notes, suggests water mixing in with the transmission oil via the heat exchanger. At the same time the puddle below suggests you check the washer around the drain plug. Mine is a metal washer and was totally corroded away on one side causing leakage - easy fix, although I had to use a non-metalic washer. The white froth could just be air and oil.
Btw, where in West Palm is Wanderer? We may head up that way shortly.
Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris, in Fort Lahdeedah.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailor63109@...> wrote :

We're new Amel owners, and on our first outing the transmission (ZF Hurth Model ZF25-2.8) lost it's oil.  I'm a far cry from a mechanic but it appears there is a leak based on the small puddle of oil under the unit.  There is no oil in the reservoir for the dipstick and there is some white froth on the dipstick.  The oil is only on the deck and not much of that really, so it wasn't a high pressure side leak. If anyone has suffered through this would you please relate to me what your problem was so I could be better informed?  I plan on calling a repair facility on Monday, there are several Factory Authorized service centers here in West Palm Beach Florida.  


Peggy was heartbroken over this, though she seems in better spirits today.  I'm hopeful that she will trust the boat again.


Duane

SV Wanderer #477


Sharki bow thruster leaking

n33077@...
 

I've re-built my Sharki bow thruster 2 times now and it is still leaking. I've cleaned the surfaces carefully, replaced the seals twice, made sure it was seated and still cannot stop the leak. The only thing I can think if is that the shaft might so worn that it won't rest against the seal. 


Any thoughts?  Pictures are in the Photos folders under Sharki Bow Thruster


Aras 

Sharki #163


Re: ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

Duane Siegfri
 

Eric,

Thank you for the reply, and the information.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

Leopold Hauer
 

Hi Steve

I talked to Schabauer this morning. Your Timer is not available any more.
Could you check  if you have an EATON ( white ) timer or a Siemens ( metallic and brown ).
Schabauer says that EATON usuall doesnt fail. What is the exact failure of the dishwasher?

Leo 

SM 69  Yin Yang




Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 04.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb svsummerlove@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Drew,

Thanks for the info.  I fear you're spot on with your prognosis regarding the days of dishwashers on board SMs being numbered.  With a "manufacture discontinued" product, the parts are essentially now made out of "Unobtainium". 

I've struggled with the reality that I could go to a lot of trouble and expense replacing the timer, only to discover the dishwasher still doesn't work.  Even if it does solve the present problem, it's only a matter of time until the next unavailable part fails.

I'll wait to see what Leo can find out tomorrow, but maybe it's time to accept the inevitable.

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: FW: refrigerator/freezer access

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 


Hi Mark,
We used Frigoboat W35F for the aft box and is using it primarily as Fridge, however we also used it as Freezer during our first Atlantic crossing. The forward box is equipped with an W50F compressor and is working as freezer. Additional to the compressors are one control unit that manage both compressors and one circulation pump that takes the cooling water from the water tank. We had two stainless steel pipes with treads for nuts on the top that been inserted through new drilled holes on top of the tank just aft of the washing machine. Length of the pipes, do not remember but intake pipe was ending 10 cm from the bottom of the tank and the return mounted 30 cm away was ending 25 cm from the bottom of the tank.
It is an easy installation has proven very reliable since installed 2008. We carry one circulation pump and one control unit as spare parts.
We reduced our power consumption with more than 50% after installation was completed. We also re-insulated the forward box to increase power efficiency. 
We bought the equipment from Frigoboat, you find it on the web.
Please feel free to come back if you have further questions.

Best regards,

Ann-Sofie and Jonas

Skickat från min iPad

3 maj 2015 kl. 15:13 skrev "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

The original equipment on our Amel was Frigoboat, Air Cooled Condensing Unit, AV35F The unit and parts can be purchased from: http://www.veco-na.com/   or http://www.go2marine.com/product/385897F/frigoboat-air-cooled-condensing-unit-av35f.html

 

 

Parts, support and replacement components are readily available from these web sites.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 8:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: FW: refrigerator/freezer access

 

 

Ann-Sofie & Jonas,

 

Could you please provide me with the information of the parts you used to upgrade your freezer and where you bought them?  

 

Ipanema SM2K 278

Constitution Marina

Boston, USA

Not yet recovered from the deep freeze.

 


Re: Original Rotary Drive with New Autopilot

jjjk12s@...
 

Andy,

 

Thanks that would be great if you can so it

.

John


Re: Original Rotary Drive with New Autopilot

Andy Croney
 

Hi John,

I too am out of my depth.

I will try to post the circuit diagram for you by way of explanation.

Trust this will be helpful.

All the best John

Andy


Re: Original Rotary Drive with New Autopilot

Andy Croney
 

Hi Craig,

my original unit is the30 year old NECO rotary drive.

I don't think you should have any issues marrying the B&G unit with the Raymarine rotary drive.

Trust this is helpful.

All the best

Andy



Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

Alan Leslie
 

Re contact email for Eumenia dishwasher.
I did manage to make contact on this address

service_eudora (at) aon.at

I was after the mechanism that holds the lid up

The reply in German :

Halterung für Tür leider nicht mehr lieferbar.

Unfortunately this part is no longer available


Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

svsummerlove@...
 

Hi Drew,

Thanks for the info.  I fear you're spot on with your prognosis regarding the days of dishwashers on board SMs being numbered.  With a "manufacture discontinued" product, the parts are essentially now made out of "Unobtainium". 

I've struggled with the reality that I could go to a lot of trouble and expense replacing the timer, only to discover the dishwasher still doesn't work.  Even if it does solve the present problem, it's only a matter of time until the next unavailable part fails.

I'll wait to see what Leo can find out tomorrow, but maybe it's time to accept the inevitable.

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass identification old Maramu 1989 #261

amelforme
 

Ross you have a Lofrans windlass that is sold/serviced by Imtra in the USA. www.imtra.com <http://www.imtra.com> . They have good folks in service who can get you the parts you need. They will tell you where to look for the serial number or will ask you to take a few photos for identification. Happy Springtime!

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass identification old Maramu 1989 #261





Hello, Do any of you know the manufacturer and even the model number of the Amel supplied windless on my Maramu #261 from 1989 ? There are no markings on it to identify. The PO had it "rebuilt"and when I take the cover off to wiggle my brushes they are looser and smaller that it looks like they should be. I am not sure if it is the wrong brushes or if there is a sleeve missing that they are supposed to slide in. My meter indicates continuity through the brushes but they don't look right to me. The windlass only works intermittently and when the brushes are disturbed it will fix it for a little while.

Happy Spring,

Ross in nyc



Also... are there any photos or plans for an arch / davit for my Maramu floating around?.





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