Re: Isolated ground solenoid
Tom,
What engine is this on? I am unfamiliar with a button on the solenoid.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
[mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:47 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Isolated ground solenoid
So, engine doesn't start intermittently. After corrosion x
in the solenoid, cleaning contacts, problem re-emerges. Can start engine by
pushing button but need to fix this. Broke out spares purchased across the
years and noticed my spare solenoid is 24 volt (need a 12 volt). I have a Cole
Hersee 12 volt solenoid (no button) but am not sure if the wiring relating to
the "s" and "I" marked small terminals on the solenoid
relative to the red and black wires on the existing valeo solenoid. Any
thoughts ? Internet research suggests red to "I" but I'm not
confident enough to do it. Of course will order correct solenoid when possible.
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Isolated ground solenoid
Thomas Kleman
So, engine doesn't start intermittently. After corrosion x in the solenoid, cleaning contacts, problem re-emerges. Can start engine by pushing button but need to fix this. Broke out spares purchased across the years and noticed my spare solenoid is 24 volt (need a 12 volt). I have a Cole Hersee 12 volt solenoid (no button) but am not sure if the wiring relating to the "s" and "I" marked small terminals on the solenoid relative to the red and black wires on the existing valeo solenoid. Any thoughts ? Internet research suggests red to "I" but I'm not confident enough to do it. Of course will order correct solenoid when possible.
Tom and Kirstin SM2K 422 Kauai
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Re: File /CockpitEnclosure.pdf uploaded
#file-notice
Ralf Schroeder
Hi Gerhard,
many thanks for the information with the primer on the defekt areas. My first idea was a complete removal from the old painting to the glass fiber. But so, I think, it´s a good alternative. With the sailmaker job - this is the different from a german to a greece sailmaker :-). When it is possible, I'm in september in the kalamata for a charter week. So, when you are there, too, it´s possible, that I meet you? Best wishes Ralf SV Baghira, Sharki 42
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NMEA 2000 Updating software
Adam Body
I have just installed a new chartplotter with prexisting NMEA 2000/ Seatalkng components and spent significant time sorting out a problem with as it turned out a simple solution. The solution to components not communicating correctly was to disconnect all but the one requiring the update, update that one, then continue in the same way with the other components. Hope this helps others in the group.
-- Adam Body "Flora" SM128 Annee 1994
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Re: Slap Silencer
Jamie Wendell
I like the swimming noodle concept. Thanks for the feedback. What I have is not what I thought it was.
Jamie
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Re: Slap Silencer
Hi Scott, Below attached is the Costco "Wet and Forget mold/algea cleaner" I actually bought the 5lt concentrate. Much safer to use than any bleach. Very Best Barry
On Saturday, July 4, 2020, 3:48:46 PM EDT, Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry@...> wrote:
Hi Scott, Just checked and my environment friendly mold/algae remover has run out. Purchased at Costco UK 5lt concentrate lasts a long time and can use it on any type of mold/algae, really cleans sails and not harmful to the boat. I will have to search for the brand. Hope Costco US has this. Still hope to make it north towards the end of this year. Very Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique On Jul 4, 2020, at 15:14, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Upcoming Event: ZOOM Meeting, Presentation from the owner of QSails on sailcloth and sail construction - Sat, 07/11/2020 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
Reminder: ZOOM Meeting, Presentation from the owner of QSails on sailcloth and sail construction When: Saturday, 11 July 2020, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Description: Over 60 Amel owners have purchased sails from QSails, Izmir, Turkey. QSails has shipped these sails worldwide. Emrah Oge, owner, manager, and avid sailor will present how sails are made and some key points to be aware of in the selection of sails for your Amel. Join Zoom Meeting Please RSVP as soon as possible Bill Rouse
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Re: Slap Silencer
Hi Scott,
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Just checked and my environment friendly mold/algae remover has run out. Purchased at Costco UK 5lt concentrate lasts a long time and can use it on any type of mold/algae, really cleans sails and not harmful to the boat. I will have to search for the brand. Hope Costco US has this. Still hope to make it north towards the end of this year. Very Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Jul 4, 2020, at 15:14, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: Slap Silencer
Scott SV Tengah
I have this for our A54. I don't get bothered by the noise, but the admiral is more sensitive to sounds.
Works reasonably well, but you're right, it gets nasty. Do you just clean it with a brush and bleach? -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Scott SV Tengah
If money were no object, I'd get an A60. Just kidding - after spending so much time and money making our A54 into exactly what we want and need, I wouldn't change her for anything. I enjoy the lifestyle associated with long term cruising and don't want to spend all that time "perfecting" a new boat.
To the original poster - I think that's the bucket of salt you need to take with everyone's responses. Most have never owned both and have prejudices based on their own love of their own vessel and their predictions of what they wouldn't like about other vessels (without actual live aboard experience). For example, after my last unexpected 31 day /4800 nm passage (because of covid, stopping for fuel was not an option), any thought I had about getting the Amel 50 is quashed because of the 50's small fuel and water tanks. But then again, I've never lived on a 50 and frankly, I think planning for a future coronavirus is a bit overkill. But that's my prejudice now. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Slap Silencer
Or, you can accomplish the same result using a couple of swimming noodles with a line through them and tied under the stern of the boat.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
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Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Hi Jamie, We have used this over the past 5 years. We were for 2 years in Port Corbieres, Marseille and then wintered 3 years in Marina de Ragusa, Sicily. The Slap Silencer has 4 simple cords for easy attachment to the stern side upright rails, does get growth of algae which cleans off easily.This is available online. US product “www.slapsilencer.com” I would recommend this if you are in a marina for a week or more. We pack it away after fresh water wash and dry in supplied bag under our master bunk. You will see that the Slap Silencer is more than a piece of canvas. We have not needed it whilst we have been at anchor here for the past few months as we are always pointing into the breeze and small waves coming off shore.
Very Best
Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Jul 4, 2020, at 09:19, Jamie
Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
galacsea galacsea
We owned a 53 (2000 version) for 12 years. With her we spent 4 years going around the med, one year in the red sea (primarily for diving) and cross the pond to spend 3 years in the Caribbeans where we sold her. We then bought a 54 in Greece and went around the world with her (live aboard) from 2014 to 2019. Both are excellent blue water vessels. I prefer the 54 for its more modern hull shape (8 to 9 Kn), giving you a true owners' cabin, more space in the front part (a double bed & 2 singles), 3 fridges, a real stay sail.....if money is no object
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Hi Jamie,
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We have used this over the past 5 years. We were for 2 years in Port Corbieres, Marseille and then wintered 3 years in Marina de Ragusa, Sicily. The Slap Silencer has 4 simple cords for easy attachment to the stern side upright rails, does get growth of algae which cleans off easily.This is available online. US product “www.slapsilencer.com” I would recommend this if you are in a marina for a week or more. We pack it away after fresh water wash and dry in supplied bag under our master bunk. You will see that the Slap Silencer is more than a piece of canvas. We have not needed it whilst we have been at anchor here for the past few months as we are always pointing into the breeze and small waves coming off shore. Very Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Jul 4, 2020, at 09:19, Jamie Wendell <mysticshadow54@...> wrote:
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Jamie Wendell
Well, I said I was not going to make any more comments on the A54 fridge pump issues until I get the BLDC (brushless motor) design working, but I have to make a new confirmation that seems to corroborate with many who have provided advice about the technical issues regarding the Danfoss and E51385 pump output voltages.
I said that I was always getting 24 volts at the pump output. I also said that I bypassed the E51385 in the sense that I now take power for my 12V pump from the 24V supply connection in the engine room (using a DC converter) and installed a simple relay to turn that power on and off. I just checked the voltage across my relay, which is driven directly from the E51385 pump output. It shows just about 12 volts, even across the very small coil resistance in the relay. So, while I still see 24 volts under no load at the E51385 pump output terminal, I see it is switching to 12 volts nominal under load. It is also clear that the pump I have draws too much power to be driven directly from the pump output terminals on the E51385. I cannot explain that voltage drop. Why do I see 24 volts at all if the compressors are sending 12 volts to the E51385 internal relays? I wish I had an internal schematic for the E51385. Not sure what turns on the 24-volt indicator lamp on the E51385 - has to be coming from the compressor somehow. Anyway, it appears my E51385 is OK, and Scott, Oliver, and I are marching forward with the brushless motor design. Thanks to all again, Jamie Phantom, A54 #44
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Jamie Wendell
Barry, I was reading this thread and saw your comment about the "Slap Silencer." You noted it was online, but where?
I have this problem with my 54, but mostly have become numb to the slapping in the aft cabin. The boat came with a very heavy canvas in a bag, and I suspect that is what it is for, but I have never tried it. Can you provide more details about your solution? Is my bag carrying the right thing, and if so how do I use it? Thanks, Jamie Phantom, A54 #44
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Thanks Alan Danny
On 04 July 2020 at 10:41 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Hi Bill?
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In relation you your response in red about the Danfoss controller ... I believe you misunderstood my statement. I was referring to the current supply from the E51385 to Jamie's pump, NOT the current supply from the Danfoss controller to the E51385 which is 12V max 0.7A (because that Danfoss controller was designed to power a fan). The 12V pump Jamie referred to is specified as drawing 3.9A at 12V. The point I was trying to make is that 3.9A drawn from the E51385 to the Pump may be enough to damage the E51385. The 51385 is designed to operate at 1.2A.
I bought a spare E51385 a couple of months ago which is at home. I'm travelling at the moment, but will set it up and test on the bench in a few weeks to confirm what voltage a 'new' E51385 should supply under a 1.2A load.
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On 4 Jul 2020, at 5:02 am, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io<digestnoreply@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Thanks for that update Scott. As I noted previously, this measurement must be made under load conditions. The good thing is that it indicates that your 51385 is ok. Best regards, Dean
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Bill, in answer to your burning question. The 24V supply comes from the Danfoss interface on the pins adjacent to the F pins. So, numbering the pins on the pump interface From left to right as 1 thru 7. Pins 1,3 and 5 carry 24V supplied from Danfoss unit, pins 2,4 and 6 carry the F signals (0V or 12V) each of from the Danfoss controllers, pins 7 and 8 feed the pump and pin 9 is 0V (Negative battery terminal). If there is 24V on the F terminals then the Danfoss unit is indeed broken. I think this is highly unlikely. Wish I was on a boat to check too.
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Re: sm 53 vs 54
Can't help but agree with you Danny. The concurrent thread on frig pumps in the 54 is an example. I was considering doing that on Elyse when I had to replace the frig unit under the salon seat. Glad I didn't!
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