Date   

Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Ralf Schroeder
 

Hi Drew,

is your flag US or once of EU?

My dealer inform me, that the problem here in EU is the US Law when your ship has a US flag. And this is the problem of some insurances from EU.
When this is correct, he advice me to ask a insurance from GB. They have the same problem through the brexit and help you with a US flag, hopefully.

Best wishes
Ralf
SV Baghira
Sharki #42


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello all.
I can share my experience with Sergio Ponce, the insurance specialist located in Spain, who has done a superb job at finding the best insurance company in any given moment. He calls me every year and tells me whether I should remain with the same company, or change to a different one because of price, coverage or policies. Last year I was with Generali and this year he's moving me to AXA. A few years back I had an accident and I didn't even call the company: I called him and he took care of everything. If anyone wants to contact him here's his email sergioponce@...
Best 
Victor SM#314


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Matt Salatino
 

Second on recommending Gary Golden, Manifest Marine. He himself is a boat owner, Moody 46....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Apr 17, 2020, at 2:46 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All US Amel Owners,

Here is what I think: The change in the marine insurance business started in about 2011-2012 when large companies began to swallow smaller ones. The first sign we saw was the ridiculous denial of legitimate claims from some of these companies. Do you remember the episode with NIKIMAT insured by Helvetia? The next thing I saw was legally manipulated policy language which gave almost all rights to the companies. More recently, we see most of the rest of the companies who chose not to wrongfully deny claims or write unfair policies simply leave the marine market. Of course, insurance company losses caused a lot of this.

I believe that if I were in the market today, I would self-insure for all casualty losses and write a liability-only policy. If you are a US boat and have trouble finding an insurance policy or a liability-only policy (third-Party), I suggest that you contact Gary Golden, Manifest Marine. Manifest Marine was established in 2016 in the wake of its founder, Gary Golden, selling his interest in International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS), an agency he co‑founded in 1987.
CONTACT:
Manifest Marine  
604 Stonewall Lane
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407
410-490-9020
Gary Golden, Director: Gary@...
I really like Gary and he is a knowledgeable insurance specialist for the marine market.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:35 PM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This “boat insurance companies dropping policies” movement since Maria and Irma evades my understanding. I’m wondering if someone has some insight. I understand how the real or perceived risk has increased with global warming and storm frequency increases, but why then not just increase premiums to offset risk?  Why so many getting out of the business? Seems like something more, structural is afoot.  Anyone with insights?  
Appreciated. 
Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS. 
A54-152

On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Drew Gaffney <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Teun BAAS
 

Porter,

 

In 2018 I was insured with a LLOYDS South Pacific syndicate via an agency in NOUMEA NC. Last year I was told by somebody in that NC agency that LLOYDS no longer wanted to renew/write policies. Wow – not happy and questioning further apparently there was a misunderstanding internally in the NC agency as then my own agent came back with another proposal; surprisingly also from LLOYDS but roughly USD400 higher than previous year but with a higher agreed value. I accepted immediately but when I asked what happened he explained that LLOYDS no longer wanted to write NEW CALEDONIA nationals but when they realized I was not a NC national they wrote me again. I am Dutch, the boat is UK owned but Dutch registered.

Researching this further I noticed that the NC agency had in both cases their PAPEETE office handle & issue the policy and I was actually dealing with somebody in PAPEETE.

A couple of months ago a fellow A54 owner (USA national), also sailing in the SP, was dropped by his insurance and struggling to get coverage and I referred him to my PAPEETE agent and he got written/covered by the LLOYDS syndicate. Hearing this I didn’t worry about my renewal next week UNTIL I was informed last week that LLOYDS didn’t renew policies anymore. My PAPEETE agent gave me this explanation:  “Our two Lloyd's syndicates, as well as many other insurers, left the yacht market at the beginning or 2020. There are less and less insurers for this class or insurance in Tropical areas, that's for that reason that the premium level is increasing a lot” He then came last week with a proposal 3 ½ times higher than my current premium which I declined.

Last night send sent me another proposal which is acceptable to me but we are working on getting a combination of hard storage and then when I go actually back into the water activate this new policy.

Until I was informed last night of this other option I was really concerned but it looks we found an acceptable solution.

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

Currently on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 16, 2020 18:30:55

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

            

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 16:36
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Boat Insurance During Pandemic

 

This “boat insurance companies dropping policies” movement since Maria and Irma evades my understanding. I’m wondering if someone has some insight. I understand how the real or perceived risk has increased with global warming and storm frequency increases, but why then not just increase premiums to offset risk?  Why so many getting out of the business? Seems like something more, structural is afoot.  Anyone with insights?  

Appreciated. 

Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS. 

A54-152



On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Drew Gaffney <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

 

All US Amel Owners,

Here is what I think: The change in the marine insurance business started in about 2011-2012 when large companies began to swallow smaller ones. The first sign we saw was the ridiculous denial of legitimate claims from some of these companies. Do you remember the episode with NIKIMAT insured by Helvetia? The next thing I saw was legally manipulated policy language which gave almost all rights to the companies. More recently, we see most of the rest of the companies who chose not to wrongfully deny claims or write unfair policies simply leave the marine market. Of course, insurance company losses caused a lot of this.

I believe that if I were in the market today, I would self-insure for all casualty losses and write a liability-only policy. If you are a US boat and have trouble finding an insurance policy or a liability-only policy (third-Party), I suggest that you contact Gary Golden, Manifest Marine. Manifest Marine was established in 2016 in the wake of its founder, Gary Golden, selling his interest in International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS), an agency he co‑founded in 1987.
CONTACT:
Manifest Marine  
604 Stonewall Lane
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407
410-490-9020
Gary Golden, Director: Gary@...
I really like Gary and he is a knowledgeable insurance specialist for the marine market.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:35 PM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This “boat insurance companies dropping policies” movement since Maria and Irma evades my understanding. I’m wondering if someone has some insight. I understand how the real or perceived risk has increased with global warming and storm frequency increases, but why then not just increase premiums to offset risk?  Why so many getting out of the business? Seems like something more, structural is afoot.  Anyone with insights?  
Appreciated. 
Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS. 
A54-152

On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Drew Gaffney <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Main Sail - Manual Furling Gear Box

Brian Mitchell
 

Dear Amel Owners,

 

We are in need of the main sail, manual furling gear box assy for an SM2000 model Amel 53’ – would anyone have either a second hand or new one that you could offer to us to purchase?

 

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Kind regards,

Sue

 

S Y Lola

Captain Brian & Sue Mitchell

+61 481 719770

+61 431 469500

 


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Porter McRoberts
 

This “boat insurance companies dropping policies” movement since Maria and Irma evades my understanding. I’m wondering if someone has some insight. I understand how the real or perceived risk has increased with global warming and storm frequency increases, but why then not just increase premiums to offset risk?  Why so many getting out of the business? Seems like something more, structural is afoot.  Anyone with insights?  
Appreciated. 
Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS. 
A54-152

On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Drew Gaffney <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Re: Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Drew;

 

We insure through Alliance Marine Risk Managers in Florida. They seem to do OK for EU area for US flagged boats. Here’s our contact. Let her know I sent you and she should take good care of you.

 

Terri Saxon

Vice President

Alliance Marine Risk Managers

777 SE 20th Street, Suite 230

Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33316

954-982-2502

Terri.saxon@...

 

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Gaffney via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Boat Insurance During Pandemic

 

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Boat Insurance During Pandemic

Drew Gaffney
 

Pantaenius has stopped offering insurance in the US and will not insure US Flagged boats, even imported in the EU.  My previous carrier will not write new policies for countries currently in “Lockdown”.
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding where to obtain insurance for our Amel in Sardinia, IT.
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia.


Bow seat for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Nicolas,

You inspired me, been getting a bit lazy under this French lockdown,
With no sign of going sailing for some weeks I decided to put the seat back on the bow.
Very simple and quick to do. Hope these below photos shows you want you need to see.
Best

Barry snd Penny
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique


Re: Broken water level dipstick

James
 

Haha.. you'd have to ask her for the truth, but she just remarked it was an experience she'd rather forget.. 

I like a challenging repair anyway, so the punishment didn't last long!

James 

SV TITANIUM
SM2K #260
Barcelona


Re: Xantrex Link 10 Battery Monitor

Dan Carlson
 

Hi Tom,

I don't know what your longer term electrical vision is, but I replaced mine with the Victron BMV 712.  It has a nice Blue Tooth interface and app on your phone.  I already had a Victron Blue Solar MPPT and was installing a Victron MultiPlus Charger/inverter to replace my 100amp charger and 2000watt inverter.   

Then I also installed a Victron Venus GX for about $200 and that takes the input from all your Victron devices and sends them via WiFi to any onboard devices you want and also be if you have an external wifi connection you can send info to the Victron connect network.  This can be useful if you can be connected to a marina/boatyard wifi when you are away from your boat to monitor your electrical system.  Victron has several GX products. The Venus does not have a screen. Lori did not want to add anymore displays in the galley. So we mounted it in the cabinet above the sink, just starboard of the autopilot.  I think they now have a newer product but I have not reviewed the features.

Have fun.

Dan and Lori in sv BeBe, sm #387, currently in Les Saintes



On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 9:41 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
The plastic over the buttons on my Link 10 is cracking and falling off so I'm considering replacing it. I'm wondering if I choose the Xantrex Link Pro or Link Lite if I need to change the shunt and wiring (I e start from scratch) or can use the existing shunt and wiring. Hoping someone has done this.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Quarantined in Oahu


Re: Xantrex Link 10 Battery Monitor

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Hi Tom,

 

I had the same amd since 2017 I am happy with this replacement for 130 euro incl. 21% tax:

https://tbs-electronics.com/product/expert-lite-battery-monitor-12v-24v

 

It is a modern design using a Microchip PIC processor and a dual 16 bit sigma delta ADC.

Yes, you can re-use the existing cabling, fuse holders and the 500A/50mV shunt of the Xantrex.

Or you use the TBS supplied one, pull a new CAT5 and do not forget to fit their fuses.

 

Note that you cannot measure the 12V starter battery as "aux" battery without using an extra isolation amplifier as  the engine/genset circuit is completely isolated from the service batteries.

 

Hope this helps you,

 

Stefan Jeukendrup

sv MalakaQueen

SM2k #348  @ Monastir, Tunesia


Re: Bow seat on Amel 54

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi Barry
thank you for the nice photo of the bow but I was interested in the wooden seat itself !
thanks any way 
Nick
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Xantrex Link 10 Battery Monitor

Thomas Kleman
 

The plastic over the buttons on my Link 10 is cracking and falling off so I'm considering replacing it. I'm wondering if I choose the Xantrex Link Pro or Link Lite if I need to change the shunt and wiring (I e start from scratch) or can use the existing shunt and wiring. Hoping someone has done this.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Quarantined in Oahu


Re: Broken water level dipstick

Eamonn Washington
 

In the end i used a 12mm dowel and sanded it down (stuck it in a drill) so it just fit inside the broken pipe. Then with a full tank of water i used strong glue on half the length and stuck it in the lower half. I waited 3 days (probably an overkill, but i am not moving any where with the virus lockdown) then glued the top of the pipe on. A thin black permanent marker hides the hairline crack remaining. My dowel was 28cm long. I’ll be keeping it closed in future except when momentarily checking....
--
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Nonsuch Bay, Antigua


Tonight 16 April at 0300 UTC our group may been down for maintenance for a few hours. #IMPORTANT

 

All,

Tonight 16 April at 0300 UTC our group may been down for maintenance for a few hours.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 USA

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mark 
Date: Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

Hi All,

I'm once again seeing the main database report corruption issues and I think at this point it's prudent to switch over to one of our backup databases. I have no reason to believe any data's been lost, this is just an index issue. The site will be down starting at 8pm Pacific Time (3am UTC time). I'd say plan for an hour outage, although I don't think it'll take nearly that long. Email sent to groups during this time will be queued up and delivered once the site is back up.

Thanks, Mark

_._,_._,_


Re: Bow seat on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Nicolas Klene
See the photo below.
The Amel 54 has the bow set up to put a hinged wooden lift up board across.
As mentioned the lines from the Parasailor come down just where the board fits, so had to take the board off.
Best

Barry and Penny
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique


Re: Broken water level dipstick

Peter Forbes
 

James,

How was your wife after that?

Peter
Carango
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle



On 15 Apr 2020, at 16:03, James via groups.io <jamestim@...> wrote:

Hi Eamonn

My wife broke our water stick last year. I inserted a hollow PVC tube with epoxy, reattached the broken end and wrapped with as thin a piece of fibreglass cloth I could find.. Then sanded nice and smooth. I hit it with some clear coat to finish and its as good as new! Before and after pic prior to clear coat..

Have fun!

James 

SV TITANIUM #260 <f6fbbbaf-5e31-466f-863e-148c9842739e.jpg><IMG_9753.jpg>


Re: Broken water level dipstick

James
 

Hi Eamonn

My wife broke our water stick last year. I inserted a hollow PVC tube with epoxy, reattached the broken end and wrapped with as thin a piece of fibreglass cloth I could find.. Then sanded nice and smooth. I hit it with some clear coat to finish and its as good as new! Before and after pic prior to clear coat..

Have fun!

James 

SV TITANIUM #260