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Re: 2001 Super Maramu Headliner

 

Rick,

Regrettably fabrics, vinyl, and wallpaper styles, colors, and designs change annually. I know that Amel has not had any since before the end of the SM production because some of the last SMs has A54 vinyl wallpaper.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:40 PM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:
Rick, Sailrite told me there is shortage of headliners but they have similar products.
If the headliner is not sagging, that PVC takes paint quite well and it does not crack.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: 2001 Super Maramu Headliner

JB Duler
 

Rick, Sailrite told me there is shortage of headliners but they have similar products.
If the headliner is not sagging, that PVC takes paint quite well and it does not crack.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


2001 Super Maramu Headliner

Rick Stanley
 

Hey folks anyone know a source for the vinyl beige headliner material AMEL used to use? Maud says AMEL no longer carries it.

Thanks!!

Rick Stanley
S/V Althea
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Gas struts for cockpit access

Ron Hynes
 

Thanks for the information.

Ron Hynes
954.319.0944

On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:



The specs for the struts are:

 

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.

 

I ordered replacements from www.easylift.com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

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Re: Gas struts for cockpit access

Mark Erdos
 

The specs for the struts are:

 

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.

 

I ordered replacements from www.easylift.com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

ngtnewington Newington
 

Not  an Amel story but I had a close call many years ago. My wife and I were running a charter yacht in the West indies. We had just had a full day to windward sailing from St Barts. I can not remember where exactly but we anchored off a fancy resort, maybe St Kitts or Nevis, the guests wanted to invite us to dinner ashore. We were tired and felt like a night in, so declined their kind invitation. They took the dinghy we went to bed. The crew cabin was right in the bow. It was blowing a solid trade wind offshore and at about 11pm the windlass started to haul up the anchor, we had not put on a snubber. We realised pretty quick and turned off the breaker. The anchor chain would self stow on that boat!

Turned out to be salt water in the foot switch.

The guests came back well after midnight! The boat would have been well out to sea.

Never again.

Nick

Amelia Aml 54-019
Leros

On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:23, JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:

It is recommended to leave the circuit breaker off until you are about to drop anchor.

A friend was delivering a 60/70' motor yacht from San Francisco to Seattle, as you may know beating against the nasty waves and the wind of the  Pacific Ocean. Very cold so everybody was inside.
The windlass turned itself on, probably a lose connection after pounding the waves for one thousand miles. They probably did not notice for hours (pounding the waves on a motor yacht is noisy).

The ensuing fire melted the GRP bow.

They were able to put the fire off and barely made it to a safe harbor.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

JB Duler
 

It is recommended to leave the circuit breaker off until you are about to drop anchor.

A friend was delivering a 60/70' motor yacht from San Francisco to Seattle, as you may know beating against the nasty waves and the wind of the  Pacific Ocean. Very cold so everybody was inside.
The windlass turned itself on, probably a lose connection after pounding the waves for one thousand miles. They probably did not notice for hours (pounding the waves on a motor yacht is noisy).

The ensuing fire melted the GRP bow.

They were able to put the fire off and barely made it to a safe harbor.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Mainsail furler top seal

Gregory Dmitriev
 

Bill,
please mention that the internal diameter of the seal is still the same - 45mm.
It was just the issue of the external diameter 60->58.


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

Bernd Spanner
 

I always open the circuit breaker when sailing i.o. to avoid unwanted windlass movement. Imagine it dropps the hook when sailing with 8 knots in waters not deeper then the chains length or even in shallow waters.
The only time I want to have the windlass ready is when I want to drop anchor or as a backup when entering a harbor in case of engine or rudder failure.
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

 

Let me add a note that will happen to any SM, 54, 55, or 50 owners, sooner or later.

The windlass Control box is a black plastic box that has 2 solenoids inside the box, 1 for UP, and 1 for DOWN. The contact points on these solenoids will burn and possibly stick sooner with those owners who operate any brand Windlass and put the motor under strain. You know what this is. You can hear the motor straining. It happens much later to those owners who do not put the motor under strain.

This is a typical A54, A55, A50 bow compartment electrical box, containing the windlass control boxes:
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This is a later model SM Windlass Control Box (earlier models had 2 exposed solenoids:
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This is an opened windlass control box with burned contacts that stuck in the DOWN position causing a windlass ran-away.
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Lesson Learned #1: When you hear your windlass motor straining, pause momentarily and the windlass control box will last a very long time.

Lesson Learned #2: Always tie your anchor chain to prevent anchor deployment and only untie it when you are ready to anchor, or you are maneuvering in close quarters like a marina. You never know when you may lose all engine propulsion and need to drop the anchor.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:40 AM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Wow, quite a reaction.  Yes, indeed, the anchor winches on my 55 are made by Quick.  They are excellent winches in my experience, having hauled various mooring anchors, rocks and other stuff in many places in the Med, in addition to my 55kg anchor and 100 m of chain!  They are not gadgets, they are serious pieces of equipment.   I appreciate the redundancy a second windlass provides.  What happened to me had nothing to do with Quick.  The remote is very well designed from an engineering perspective but it‘s been heavily used and opened many times to remove batteries in the fall and reinstall them in the spring.   So what happened to me is not a reason to point fingers at Quick or Amel.   It can happen to anyone with any make of windlass.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently cruising Britany 


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks very much everyone.  Based on Thomas’ suggestion, I‘ve now programmed an event for my 60A charger which switches it to float at 80% state of charge.  The voltage of the batteries at 80% with the charger off and minimal load (2A) is a little less than 26.8V.  So this may be the way to go - but I have an email into MV support to confirm.  Their advice quoted above strictly speaking only applies if all loads are off which won‘t be the case for me since the bilge pump and galvanic insulator will be on although the loads are minimal for a 600Ah battery bank.   It may also not be necessary to have this event if the charger never goes back to bulk with such a small load.  

Scott, given that MV recommends to charge the batteries to more than 80% at least every 3 month, I suspect that it‘s not good for them to be kept at 50% as you suggest.   

Joerg


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

Joerg Esdorn
 

Wow, quite a reaction.  Yes, indeed, the anchor winches on my 55 are made by Quick.  They are excellent winches in my experience, having hauled various mooring anchors, rocks and other stuff in many places in the Med, in addition to my 55kg anchor and 100 m of chain!  They are not gadgets, they are serious pieces of equipment.   I appreciate the redundancy a second windlass provides.  What happened to me had nothing to do with Quick.  The remote is very well designed from an engineering perspective but it‘s been heavily used and opened many times to remove batteries in the fall and reinstall them in the spring.   So what happened to me is not a reason to point fingers at Quick or Amel.   It can happen to anyone with any make of windlass.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently cruising Britany 


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

John Clanton
 

I may very well have misinterpreted this message string, so pardon my comments if wrong, but:

Quick is the maker of the chain counter and helm anchor control device, the hoisting hardware is Lewmar.

The notion that an anchor windlass, a chain counter, or a remote to active the windlass is a “gadget” or “lacking simplicity” is ridiculous.

I think this is an informative report and I very much appreciate the insight.

John W. Clanton
A55, No. 65
Currently in Antibes, France


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Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

Marcel Tromp
 

To many gadgets, no simplicity!


On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 at 3:50, Dimitris Krasopoulos
<dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
An Amel 55 with Quick wind lass unbelievable. Check again it should be Lewmar

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 8:31 PM, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
A cautionary tale.  Yesterday, one of my two Quick anchor winches came on without my pressing a button!  I was sailing and the port winch started pulling the port anchor in - i.e. the motor was turning against the slipping clutch, cranking the anchor against the bow structure.  The noise was incredible and it took me a while to get the winch turned off.  The wireless remote and the switch at the helm station didn‘t work.  I knew the switch labeled „cockpit controls“ turns off the winch but that also turns off everything else in the cockpit.  So I decided to turn off the switch in the forepeak.  

What happened?  I investigated today and found that the remote control had some water on the circuit board.  That water was enough to short out the on/off button and the „up“ button for the port winch.  After drying it and applying some Corrosion X, all was good again.  I am replacing the remote, though, since the elaborate gasket is failing in a number of places which may be the reason for the water.  But it could have been condensation as well.  I‘m also going to check out the port winch to make sure the clutch survived the ordeal.   

I have long had a rule to turn the „cockpit controls“ button off when I leave the boat at anchor.  My concern is that the anchor winch might turn on miraculously and pull up the anchor!  Turns out that‘s not just a theoretical concern!    

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently cruising Brittany

--
Best Regards

Dimitris Krasopoulos
Dubai Mob: +971 564602575
Greek Mob:+306944302318


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

An Amel 55 with Quick wind lass unbelievable. Check again it should be Lewmar

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 8:31 PM, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
A cautionary tale.  Yesterday, one of my two Quick anchor winches came on without my pressing a button!  I was sailing and the port winch started pulling the port anchor in - i.e. the motor was turning against the slipping clutch, cranking the anchor against the bow structure.  The noise was incredible and it took me a while to get the winch turned off.  The wireless remote and the switch at the helm station didn‘t work.  I knew the switch labeled „cockpit controls“ turns off the winch but that also turns off everything else in the cockpit.  So I decided to turn off the switch in the forepeak.  

What happened?  I investigated today and found that the remote control had some water on the circuit board.  That water was enough to short out the on/off button and the „up“ button for the port winch.  After drying it and applying some Corrosion X, all was good again.  I am replacing the remote, though, since the elaborate gasket is failing in a number of places which may be the reason for the water.  But it could have been condensation as well.  I‘m also going to check out the port winch to make sure the clutch survived the ordeal.   

I have long had a rule to turn the „cockpit controls“ button off when I leave the boat at anchor.  My concern is that the anchor winch might turn on miraculously and pull up the anchor!  Turns out that‘s not just a theoretical concern!    

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently cruising Brittany

--
Best Regards

Dimitris Krasopoulos
Dubai Mob: +971 564602575
Greek Mob:+306944302318


Re: Anchor winch turning itself on!

John Clanton
 

Good lesson for the rest of us. Thanks much!


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Anchor winch turning itself on!

Joerg Esdorn
 

A cautionary tale.  Yesterday, one of my two Quick anchor winches came on without my pressing a button!  I was sailing and the port winch started pulling the port anchor in - i.e. the motor was turning against the slipping clutch, cranking the anchor against the bow structure.  The noise was incredible and it took me a while to get the winch turned off.  The wireless remote and the switch at the helm station didn‘t work.  I knew the switch labeled „cockpit controls“ turns off the winch but that also turns off everything else in the cockpit.  So I decided to turn off the switch in the forepeak.  

What happened?  I investigated today and found that the remote control had some water on the circuit board.  That water was enough to short out the on/off button and the „up“ button for the port winch.  After drying it and applying some Corrosion X, all was good again.  I am replacing the remote, though, since the elaborate gasket is failing in a number of places which may be the reason for the water.  But it could have been condensation as well.  I‘m also going to check out the port winch to make sure the clutch survived the ordeal.   

I have long had a rule to turn the „cockpit controls“ button off when I leave the boat at anchor.  My concern is that the anchor winch might turn on miraculously and pull up the anchor!  Turns out that‘s not just a theoretical concern!    

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently cruising Brittany


Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Thank you Scott, Very informative and of big use to us that are thinking about converting to Lithium.
Enjoy the Pacific!
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: LED under cabinet lighting

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I connected directly to the 24 volt system.  I left the existing kitchen lighting in place and connected the new LED lights to that source using the existing circuit breaker for protection.  I was reluctant to use a transformer, I really like the KISS Principle.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Tinkling Sound

karkauai
 

Thanks Paul and Joel.  I will try the halyard first, then Paul's suggestions if not joy.

We are fine, Joel.  I did take a nasty spill on a bicycle in the Cape Cod Dunes a week ago.  Broken nose, fist-sized hematoma on shin, and various assundry scrapes and bruises.  Still feel like a truck ran over me but I'll live.  Hi to Vela, glad y'all are having fun.

Iris says Ahoy back atcha, and thanks for the tip.

Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM 243

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Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243

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