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Re: Lubricant Oil for the "C" (not z) drive
Ultich and Pat - Here is what Olivier Beaute had to say on the subject 4 years ago.
Craig Beaute Olivier
04/11/16 #26221
Hi Bill,
the C-drive has been designed by AMEL in 1989. There has been 3 different designs for the Santorin and Super Maramu, only one for the 54. Until the last 54, AMEL has recommended to use 20W40 oil only because that's the kind of oil you usually have on board (for engine and generator) if you need to top up the C-drive tank. And that would avoid having two kinds of oil on board. In fact, this C-drive did not need this kind of oil (20W40) as it is made for high temperatures (that you find in a diesel engine). The C-drive oil rarely warms up more than 70°C.
Now, the manufacturer of the C-drive has changed and recommends the 80/90, and probably would deny warranty if this kind of oil is not used.
Again, in order to make things more simple, AMEL decided to use 80/90 gear oil for the new models, but also when they replace the oil in the older C-drives. I have seen Super Maramu's C-drives with SAE 80/90 oil replaced by the AMEL service team in La Rochelle (with the label mentioning the grade of oil and the engine hours attached to the C-drive tank).
So, if you (AMEL owners) replace oil in the C-drive, it's OK with 20W40 or 80/90. Don't mix both oils, but in case you do the of oil service of your C-drive, if you don't find one kind of oil, you may replace it with the other kind.
The 55 and 64 owners will just follow what they are told in their owner's manual (SAE 80/90).
Cheers.
Olivier.
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Re: Replacement of carpets in SM
Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...>
We did exactly the same. One thing we learnt was to check the underside of the carpet. The one we bought shed a whole lot of the fabric binding material and we were forever sweeping and hoovering the bits. Also, non slip is important, in a seaway you can easily find the carpet moving under your feet ( and it also creeps in the passage way with normal traffic). We ended up only putting the carpet down while anchored or in a marina.
Ian Ocean Hobo. SN96. (Still locked down and locked out.)
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Given the length of the sensors and the (guestimated) diameter of the hole I would say the sensors are self-aligning just because of the fit.
Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive
Patrick McAneny
Bill, I thought that was only for the bow thruster , now for the C-Drive as well? I have still been using 20-40.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM#123
-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 12:05 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lubricant Oil for the z drive Paolo,
About 4-5 years ago Amel revised the type of oil for the Amel C-Drive to 80/90 Gear Oil
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:
hi all,
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Re: Replacement of carpets in SM
Patrick McAneny
We did the same as Gary ,making a template and cutting the carpet,then had the binding done, I think I undercut the carpet about 3/16" to allow for binding. We were surprise how well it all fit,as good as original. Not a hard job ,maybe a few hours,spent more time selecting the carpet,we went with a berber ,as the pile was short . Its been in about seven years and still looks great.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells <gary@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 9:36 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacement of carpets in SM Alexander, I am of no help in France but we made our own replacements without too much trouble.
We made a template.from large wrapping paper then bought a "remnant" piece from a big-box store. Cutting it with a box cutter was not too hard, just have to be careful. Once we had the pieces cut out we took them to a real "Carpeting and Flooring" store and asked them to "Bind" the edges which they did nicely in only a couple of days. We learned that the "Binding" process adds a small amount of extra material to the edges so our pieces were just a tiny bit too big but still fit ok. I think we will do it again this summer as the first attempt was mostly an experiment anyway. It was not very expensive overall. Best wishes! Gary W SM 209, Adagio Georgia, USA
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Mohammad,
The serial number is 184-00-076/F.
I have no way of knowing that the existing ones are identical, but I believe there was an earlier forum discussion on this confirming this serial number.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 12 May 2020 23:52 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
Thanks for the information Paul. Have you checked and confirmed the S/N to be sure this is the correct part for the 54s?
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
I just got replacements from here:
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
On our SM the sonic speed, the one with the two sensors, that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor.
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Arno,
This is good info. Should there be any precautions taken to ensure they are correctly aligned?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: 13 May 2020 11:12 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
Hi Marco, I’m guessing the sensor is pushed in the hole bedded in Sikaflex. So I’m sure it will be a pig to remove once the time comes. I guess the best way is by drilling a hole in the face of the sensor and putting in a large screw to get some leverage to pull it out. Remember to tie a piece of string to the other end to feed in the new sensor once the old one is out. -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Hi Marco, I’m guessing the sensor is pushed in the hole bedded in Sikaflex. So I’m sure it will be a pig to remove once the time comes. I guess the best way is by drilling a hole in the face of the sensor and putting in a large screw to get some leverage to pull it out. Remember to tie a piece of string to the other end to feed in the new sensor once the old one is out.
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Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive
Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
Hi, Paolo and Bill, that's very interesting: last year before my oil change in the Z-drive I asked AMEL SAV , Thierry, for the exact amount and specification. Next to the oil reservoir in the engine room at the bulkhead, there is a sign on my 54 with the strict indication of 20W- 4o oil. Thierry confirmed this as a directly recommended oil type. This specification is not very popular and one could also switch to 15W-40. The total quantity is 8 litres. So I ordered the 20W-40 oil (semi-synthetic and especially for marine use) from a German oil company in the web and did the oil change with it. Bill, obviously you have some other service information, or does it only concern the SM Z-Drives? That would be important for me to know too. Thanks for clarification. Best regards and stay healthy. Ulrich Michael "Soleil Bleu" /54#088
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Marco Mancini
Dear Paul and Arno,
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thanks for your usefull info. Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor ( the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel. cheers Marco SM Desiree , Italy , Naples
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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Thanks Teun, Danny
On 13 May 2020 at 10:24 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Mohammad Shirloo
Thanks for the information Paul. Have you checked and confirmed the S/N to be sure this is the correct part for the 54s?
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:10 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
I just got replacements from here:
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
On our SM the sonic speed, the one with the two sensors, that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor.
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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz
Hi Danny,
The actual insurer who covers 100% of this risks is ERGO Versicherung AG AG ERGO Platz 1 40198 Düsseldorf Germany
This is what I sent to Penny & Barry this morning:
As promised this is the contact info for the insurance agent I had for the last 3 years for AMELIT. He was able to get me an increased “agreed” value for the hull, machinery and equipment; he operates out of THAILAND; they are also in FRENCH POLYNESIA but the company main office is in NEW CALEDONIA.
Christophe GEORGE Poe-ma Underwriting & Management Asia Ltd (PUMA) - Poe-ma insurances Group
And these are the other agents but they all came with the same insurance company in Germany; except lower agreed values (but at a lower premium).
In NEW ZEALAND:
Bill Director The Marina Shop Ltd Tel +64 9 402 6093 Fax +64 9 402 6091 Email - bill@... Skype - bill-boi & bill@... Web - www.themarinashop.com
IN UK:
Chris McGowan
Contactable in the United Kingdom: 4-6 Octagon Offices, Waterfront, Brighton Marina,
Brighton, BN2 5WB Email. chris@... Website. www.topsailinsurance.com
Australia PERTH Phone: + 61 (0)
8 6102 8861 The Catalina Anchorage, 1/235 Spit Road, Mosman. NSW 2088 Phone: + 61 (0) 2 9188 7828 Email: enquiries@... Website: www.topsailinsurance.com.au
In USA:
~Elliott F. Golden
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 12, 2020 15:23:59
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 13:45 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz
Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz
Hi Penny & Barry,
I didn’t try PANTAENIUS after in 2017 their USA office offered me USD17K or so which I was ready to accept. Then PANTAENIUS USA sent me to PANTAENIUS UK bcoz the boat is owned by a LONDON company and Dutch registered meaning an additional USD2 or 3K in VAT – so now close to USD20K. Bill ROUSE sent me to another Insurance company and they offered USD8K (but the boat had to be during cyclone season in NEW ZEALAND) and again, happy to save USD10K, I was ready to accept when my friends in NEW CALEDONIA introduced me to my current agent who insured AMELIT for USD5K with LLOYDS in LONDON and no cyclone clause at all.
Apparently these premium disparities still exists as last year I met in the SP some other AMEL owners paying these sky-high USD15K plus premiums. I can eat a lot of sushi for the difference in premium 😊. I am sure PANTAENIUS is still willing to write policies at these premiums while making their conditions IMPOSSIBLE to comply with so they can get out of a claim if they want to.
The writing on the wall is that in 2017/2018, while the premiums & conditions were all over the board for the same boat, these proposal were readily available from several insurance companies; now that seems to be no longer the case.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 12, 2020 15:03:04
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 14:23 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz
Thank's Teun,
My Aussie friends in St Martin are very grateful for your research and the good result you got. Have read a just posted good article on Noonsite about getting insurance, seems to be a hot topic now that so many boats are stuck in areas they don't want to be in. I am lucky that my wife is British and our boat is still UK registered, our insurance with Pantaenius UK is excellent though a bit pricey. I am sure your research will benefit many Amel owners.
Best
Barry and Penny "SV Lady Penelope II" Amel 54 #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 4:45:06 PM EDT, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
I just got replacements from here:
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
On our SM the sonic speed, the one with the two sensors, that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Try this.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/B-G-B-G-Sonic-Speed-Replacement-Transducer-Tube-LG-Bung-Sensor-184-00-076-F/402122695012?hash=item5da0616164:g:cZsAAOSw0VteVu1L I'm not sure if this is the one in your boat as they made two different models. A straight one (this one) and a angular one. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz
Thank's Teun, My Aussie friends in St Martin are very grateful for your research and the good result you got. Have read a just posted good article on Noonsite about getting insurance, seems to be a hot topic now that so many boats are stuck in areas they don't want to be in. I am lucky that my wife is British and our boat is still UK registered, our insurance with Pantaenius UK is excellent though a bit pricey. I am sure your research will benefit many Amel owners. Best Barry and Penny "SV Lady Penelope II" Amel 54 #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 4:45:06 PM EDT, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 13 May 2020 at 04:22 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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sonic speed on SM 2000
Marco Mancini
On our SM the sonic speed, the one with the two sensors, that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor.
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time. Please Did you hknow how to repair it ? Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor? thanks marco Italy SM304
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Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 13 May 2020 at 04:22 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:22 AM ESTELLER <jose.esteller@...> wrote:
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