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Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Miles
 

I have an MDKAL on my SM 216, that I would like to get a replacement elbow for.  It seems the different models might have been used interchangeably  for a while.  Is this correct?  In any case, I would be happy to go in with anyone having a replacement made for a MDKAL.

Regards,

Miles

SM216 Ladybug, now in Newport, soon in Martinique

Spurs Cutter Installation

Bernd Spanner
 
Edited

Hello,
I am thinking about getting a SPURS LINE CUTTER on my SN.
However, I feel uncomfortable drilling holes in the cdrive to install the holding block.
Can you please share your experiences and possibly post some pictures?

Thanks!
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

Re: Wood tool for servicing Bow thruster

 

I do. I will send it to you. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 3:46 PM Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io <laixoi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Amelien 
After being told by Maud in La Rochelle that Amel was out of stock for a while , I would like to know if somebody has the specs of that tool, , to have one made ,or perhaps a spare one to sell . I haven't got one on board unfortunately.
Thanks 
Nick 
SV DarNico
SM471

Wood tool for servicing Bow thruster

Nicolas Klene
 

Hello Amelien 
After being told by Maud in La Rochelle that Amel was out of stock for a while , I would like to know if somebody has the specs of that tool, , to have one made ,or perhaps a spare one to sell . I haven't got one on board unfortunately.
Thanks 
Nick 
SV DarNico
SM471

Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

James Cromie
 

Thank you for everyone’s responses. (you saved me some money!)
-James

On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

No primer, but sand well. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 9:07 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Great.  Thank you.  Is any primer necessary, or simply pile on the coats?

-James
On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

James,

Ditto on what Karen said. It is water base, flexible, and will need 3-5 coats. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:49 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use paint made for inflatable dinghies. The bumper is made of dense closed cell polyurethane foam. We have used the West Marine Brand with excellent luck by following preparation directions _exactly_.  We re-paint once a year and have never had a failure of the paint. 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--top-coating-for-inflatable-boats-gray-quart--P010_301_001_501  (Pick your favorite color!)

Anything else will be too brittle and crack off, epoxy will be even worse.  You really should use a water based paint, since some solvents can attack the surface of the closed cell foam leaving you worse off than before you started.

Painting this part BEFORE it needs it is key to keeping it protected from UV and having a long lasting, good looking, bumper.  They are expensive, and sometime hard to get. Take good care of it and it will last a very long time.






Re: Freshwater pump

James Cromie
 

Eric - I have the Sureflo Aqua King II on my boat - It was actually installed by the previous owner. So, for around 5 - 6 yrs, I have not had any problems with respect to leaks at fittings, etc. (I leave the water pump on all the time while I’m on the boat.   It is a good pump, I’m happy with its performance, and I keep a spare.  You can adjust the demand sensitivity on it, though I’ve never changed it from the factory setting.  

The Parmax might be a little less expensive.  

-James

On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:59 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:


---------- Original Message ----------
From: eric <kimberlite@...>
To: Amel Owners <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Date: October 21, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: Freshwater pump

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


 


Places to winter in Scotland

Joerg Esdorn
 

I'm planning to cruise the West Coast of Scotland next season and am wondering whether there are good places to leave the boat for the following winter.  Any help would be much appreciated.

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
Currently cruising around Vigo, Spain 

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark Pitt
 

Joel,

   I have an MDKAV in my hull #419.

   Mark Pitt

  Sabbatical III, SM #419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/22/2019 11:22 AM, amelforme wrote:

The MDKAL pretty much happened on the Millenium edition as an evolution of the previous ONAN MDKD version. I think the last 35 SM 53 had the MDKAV but Olivier would probably know for sure. It might have been the last 50. Forgot to write it down…

Joel     

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark McGovern
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

 

Karen,

That sure is much different than the elbow on my Onan MDKAV 7kW.  Mine looks much more like the one from Nikimat's MDKAL.  If you do end up replacing yours with a new one, let me know.  I will happily take the old one off your hands to make a jig and will give you a brand new one in return as a spare/replacement.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

amelforme
 

The MDKAL pretty much happened on the Millenium edition as an evolution of the previous ONAN MDKD version. I think the last 35 SM 53 had the MDKAV but Olivier would probably know for sure. It might have been the last 50. Forgot to write it down…

Joel     

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark McGovern
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

 

Karen,

That sure is much different than the elbow on my Onan MDKAV 7kW.  Mine looks much more like the one from Nikimat's MDKAL.  If you do end up replacing yours with a new one, let me know.  I will happily take the old one off your hands to make a jig and will give you a brand new one in return as a spare/replacement.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

That sure is much different than the elbow on my Onan MDKAV 7kW.  Mine looks much more like the one from Nikimat's MDKAL.  If you do end up replacing yours with a new one, let me know.  I will happily take the old one off your hands to make a jig and will give you a brand new one in return as a spare/replacement.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Freshwater pump

Gary Wells
 
Edited

Parmax 4 24v 40psi has performed perfectly for us for 5+ years now.

I think the previous owner had a 25psi model in there when we took over the boat and it was OK, but the 40psi has plenty of reserve for two showers concurrently.

I am not sure how I feel about 55psi except that if it isn't specifically necessary I wouldn't stress all the fittings and clamps to that degree. 

Well .. 2 cents worth :)

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Annapolis, MD

Re: Headsail furler issues

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

That's interesting, Adam.
On the SN the wires make "home runs" to the motors (furler or windlass) with no splice in a junction box, a far better arrangement (and typically "code"). When you redo this can you run a single wire from the solenoid to the motor, just using the junction box as an intermediate place to pull the single wires through, without putting in splices? I think that would give a far better installation.
Craig 

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Thanks Mike,

I have sent an email off to Bill.

Have fun in the Seychelles.

Ross and Donna
INTREPID KIWI

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 9:02 AM, Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...> wrote:

Dear Ross,

I’m in Seychelles at the moment and don’t have the dimensions on my system here.

Bill Rouse uploaded the a file with dimensions and pictures.  If you contact him directly he will be able to assist.  We found that his solution with the thicker copper bar was robust and worked well.  Metelec delivered the bar bent and drilled as specified.  We drilled the holes for connection wires once the copper bar was installed.

Regards

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K 461




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:32 PM +0400, "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Mike Johnson
 

Dear Ross,

I’m in Seychelles at the moment and don’t have the dimensions on my system here.

Bill Rouse uploaded the a file with dimensions and pictures.  If you contact him directly he will be able to assist.  We found that his solution with the thicker copper bar was robust and worked well.  Metelec delivered the bar bent and drilled as specified.  We drilled the holes for connection wires once the copper bar was installed.

Regards

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K 461




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:32 PM +0400, "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Headsail furler issues

Adam Body
 

An update on the headsail furler. The problem was a burnt out wire.  The wire in question carried the current from one (FOC in) of the four solenoids (two for the FOC/Jib, two for the anchor winch) located in the forward port locker of the forward berth. The wire passes through conduits forward to the port bow deck compartment where there is a junction box. This is where the wire was burnt out. The insulation on the wire was cracked and the copper wires had corroded and gradually broke down as the remaining wires were required to carry the current, until they simply burnt out. Hopefully this experience will be helpful to others.   
--
Adam Body "Flora"   SM128 Annee 1994

Re: Freshwater pump

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi Eric,
We've had good luck with the Jabsco Parmax Plus 4. 24v. $140. Good pressure won't strain the plumbing. 

Chuck 
Joy #388

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:59 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:


---------- Original Message ----------
From: eric <kimberlite@...>
To: Amel Owners <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Date: October 21, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: Freshwater pump

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


 

Freshwater pump

eric freedman
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: eric <kimberlite@...>
To: Amel Owners <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Date: October 21, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: Freshwater pump

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


 

Freshwater pump

eric freedman
 

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Karen Smith
 

Mark,

Based on your hull number, and the pictures of your exhaust elbow, I am guessing you have one of the newer, bigger gensets.  I think that one is available as an OEM for ~$500

Ours (from a 6.5kW MDKD) looks rather different, the flange is basically the entire back end of the exhaust manifold, and incorporates the line carrying coolant to the raw water heat exchanger.


Part Number and Drawing of Rack and Pinon steering

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Attached please find the art number and page for the rack steering

Fair Winds,

eric

SM 376 Kimberlite