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Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

 

No primer, but sand well. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 9:07 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Great.  Thank you.  Is any primer necessary, or simply pile on the coats?

-James
On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

James,

Ditto on what Karen said. It is water base, flexible, and will need 3-5 coats. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:49 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use paint made for inflatable dinghies. The bumper is made of dense closed cell polyurethane foam. We have used the West Marine Brand with excellent luck by following preparation directions _exactly_.  We re-paint once a year and have never had a failure of the paint. 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--top-coating-for-inflatable-boats-gray-quart--P010_301_001_501  (Pick your favorite color!)

Anything else will be too brittle and crack off, epoxy will be even worse.  You really should use a water based paint, since some solvents can attack the surface of the closed cell foam leaving you worse off than before you started.

Painting this part BEFORE it needs it is key to keeping it protected from UV and having a long lasting, good looking, bumper.  They are expensive, and sometime hard to get. Take good care of it and it will last a very long time.



Re: Outhaul on Supermaramu

Gary Silver
 

Ian and Judy:

As to the elongating of the holes in the boom mounting plate.  This occurs due to the torque that is applied to those mounting holes each time the out-haul is used.  Originally Amel fitted rubber grommets around the mounting bolts to prevent contact between the mounting bolts and the aluminum  (for corrosion protection, shock mounting, and to prevent mounting plate wear).  Those soon deteriorate but are readily available for replacement.  If you notice your out-haul assembly moving back and forth with activation of the outhaul (in either direction) it is probably time to replace the rubber grommets.  I don't recall the size off hand, but the specifications take into account the thickness of the "groove" to match the mounting plate, the ID for the bolt and the "groove" diameter for the mounting plate. 

Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335

Re: Outhaul on Supermaramu

Gary Silver
 

Ian and Judy:

The bronze bushing I believe you are referring to  (the only one on the drive shaft for the outhaul) fits into the top of the Anderson winch cap.  You should be able to view it by looking sideways into the space between the Anderson winch cap and the "arm" of the drive shaft. 

Re: Mizzen mast paint.

John Clark
 

Hi Paul,
  the original paint code is Renault Panda Blanc (or White in US) #348   In the US NAPA has the formula to fabricate the paint on order.  Cost is about $15-20 USD per can.  

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 4:14 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul, I painted my main mast with alwgrip ten yrs. and it was a perfect match. I just sanded it with 320 grit and then roll and tipped it , I did not prime it other than a few spots where I had corrosion. Having the boat repainted this winter due to a 47' cat who drug anchor and hit us at 4:30 am. in Guadeloupe . I will try to determine the paint color and get back ,need to anyway as I plan to paint the mizzen mast and the booms since I will be demasting the boat to go into a shed for painting .
Pat,
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <john.biohead@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen mast paint.

Hi Paul,
  I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store.  Check the Forum for my post.  Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour? 
Anyone who have painted your self who kan give advice on how to. What primer did you use?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 

Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

Gary Silver
 

Hi Ian and Judy

We had a boisterous sail from Bonaire to Puerto Rico last year during which my daughter was tossed onto the toilet in the forward head and cracked 3 of the plastic (?PVC) mounting lugs of the toilet base.  I ordered the Jabsco PN 37004-1000 toilet base from Amazon for $139.00 US and received it in a couple days.  It fit the existing hole pattern perfectly.  The bolts screwed into mild steel backing plates that are imbedded in the fiberglass much like the lifeline stanchion mounting system.   I just backed out the bolts, mounted the new base to the porcelain bowel (the base comes with a new mounting gasket as I recall), re-installed the assembly, then realized I didn't have clearance to screw in the outflow hose adapter that has the "joker" valve in it so demounted the base etc, attached the outflow adapter, then re-set the base.  

I just now searched Amazon and see the correct PN listed for $116.00 (cheaper than what I paid).  Hope you can procure one via Amazon in Greece. 

All the best, 
Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico     (on the hard)

Electric heads on Supermaramu

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi all,

We have a rather selfish approach to guests, namely that we most enjoy their company when they stay ashore in an AirBnB and come day sailing.  Occasionally we bend this rule . Alas, one of our good friends has become very large with age  and after his recent spell on board  the base of  one of our 19 year old  WCs has suffered terminal damage.

 We were really sceptical when our Amel came with electric heads but they have proved more reliable and needing less maintenance than any manual heads we have had in the past.

 The damage suffered is cracking of the base around the bolts which hold it to the floor. Unfortunately, Jabsco no longer make the Base Assembly Part No: 37004-1000 ( at least, it is no longer available in the UK).
The replacement, needless to say, has bolt holes in different places to the original. Other than that, it seems that it works as a replacement.

Has anyone experience  of replacing these heads ? When you remove the old base, what is underneath it? Is there a hole which allows you to gain sufficient access to fix in place the nuts to which the new base is bolted ?  Is some form of reinforcement needed to the floor ? How to fix the nuts so that they stay in place ?

I had though of trying to reinforce the cracks and continue to use the existing base, but there is little material to work on and I suspect that would prove a short term solution.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 ,Kilada,Greece


Outhaul on Supermaramu

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 


Subject: Outhaul on Supermaramu
 
Hi Bill,

 On page 30 of your excellent ( May 2019)  Amel book appears a photo of the drive arm which connects the gearbox to the Andersen winch. On that arm is a bronze bushing.

 Can you explain where this bushing fits ?  Presumably it is not part of the gearbox ? Does that mean that it sits in the boom itself and helps to keep the drive arm in place rather than placing all the stress on the bolt which attaches the drive arm to the winch?

 The reason I ask is that since my drive arm was replaced in 2009 the four bolts attaching the bearbox to the bracket on the boom have worked to elongate the holes in the bracket.  I am about to dismount the boom, detach the arm and gearbox and have a new floor fitted to bracket with new holes drilled.   I am half expecting to find that when the drive arm was fitted in 2009 ( no names mentioned--but it wasn't me ! ) the bush was omitted and that has resulted in the wear on the bracket.

 Anyone else had a similar problem ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt

Paul Osterberg
 

Karen, Thank you for the information, I will give it a go.
I have a big and well regarded boat yard just around the corner, if I fail.
Paul

Re: Ground strap in bilge

James Alton
 

Bill,

  I also considered using wire for the bilge bonding but I liked the idea of the heavier copper bar that you suggested and went that route.  I think that wire or a thin strap is pretty easy to damage over time with bilge cleanings.  I covered  my new copper with very heavy glue coated shrink wrap which hopefully will make it last even longer and no sharp edges. The stiffness of the thicker bar also made it easy for me to place the end of the bar on the keel bolt and to hold orientation as the keel bolt was tightened.  

James
SV Sueno
Preveza, Greece



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-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/21/19 12:06 AM (GMT+02:00)
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

Copper wire should work. I still prefer copper bar. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 2:53 PM Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill what’s your thoughts on using copper wire, instead of the strap. Will this provide enough electrical conductivity?

Regards

Ross
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K 356
Currently Croatia


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On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 9:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
That is awesome Robin.
I will be onto it in the morning.

All the best,
Randall

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.
It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

Robin 
Amel 54 # 54
Carré d‘As


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Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.
I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

Thanks again,
Randall
54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

Robin
Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara
Carré d‘As

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Dean Gillies <dean@...>
 

Alan, I believe you have hit the nail on the head. It’s all about the resistance at the joint to the bolt. A wide flat strap provides the maximum surface contact area between the strap and the bolt. That is the most effective way to minimise the resistance at the joint. A thicker flat strap (than the original) will provide similar resistance (when properly installed) and better longevity.

I’m not looking forward to this job when my time comes, sounds really awkward!

Dean SY Stella A54-154

X

Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Annsofie,
That sounds like a good idea.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Alan Leslie
 

We have Furuno Navnet II at the nav station and at the helm, networked with C-Map charts, Laptop at the navstation with MaxSea TZ and Navionocs and C-Map charts and OpenCPN with Google Earth satellite charts plus WiFi connection to a tablet at the helm to mirror the laptop. We also have a B&G plotter where the Forward sonar used to be, with Forward Scan and Navionics charts. Our experience in the S Pacific is that the C-Map charts are generally good, Navionics less so, especially in Fiji where Navionics sometimes doesn't show passages where they exist and shows reefs where there aren't any and doesn't show them where they are.
In the S Pacific ALL electronic charts suffer from the fact that a lot of them are based on very old paper charts made before WGS 84 datum and while thay can be accurate to look at , things are not quite in the right place. In New Caledonia and FP we found the electronic charts to be precise. In Tonga miles out, Fiji a bit out, same in Vanuatu.
Mark 1 eye ball is the best navigation instrument in close quarters.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437   

Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt

 

Karen,

Great summary!

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
When Bill recently did the timing belt on our engine, he used a good belt tension gauge, and a dial indicator to re-time the injection pump.  He also replaced the tension and idler pulleys.  They weren't expensive, and are critical bearings that are really easy to change while you have the belt off anyway.

If you look at the shop manual, one of the last steps is to reset the timing of the injection pump.  That is an important step that people seem to frequently skip. The camshaft and the crankshaft are locked in place (6mm bolts work as well as the $pecial pin$ from Volvo!) and as you tension the belt, the shaft of the injection pump will rotate--at least a little bit.  If you don't reset it, fuel injection timing will be off, and that is a bad thing.  Late injection will result in unburned fuel and reduced power, early injection can seriously damage the engine if the fuel ignites significantly before TDC. The adjustment is a little fiddly, but not hard.

It might be our imagination, but it sure looks like we accumulate a lot less soot on the hull after this job. Could fine tuning  the pump timing have helped with this chronic problem?

This is a very important project on these engines.  If the belt breaks or gets loose enough to jump a couple cogs the valves and pistons will hit each other and in seconds your engine turns into a very expensive mooring anchor. It's worth doing better than just eyeballing the belt tension, which is really high and quite hard to do by feel.

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Alan Leslie
 

The fact that it is only milliamps makes the conductivity very important. Even a slightly bad connection at the keel bolt will make the keel rust. Best to use 3mm flat copper bar to make the best conductor for the bonding system.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt

Karen Smith
 

When Bill recently did the timing belt on our engine, he used a good belt tension gauge, and a dial indicator to re-time the injection pump.  He also replaced the tension and idler pulleys.  They weren't expensive, and are critical bearings that are really easy to change while you have the belt off anyway.

If you look at the shop manual, one of the last steps is to reset the timing of the injection pump.  That is an important step that people seem to frequently skip. The camshaft and the crankshaft are locked in place (6mm bolts work as well as the $pecial pin$ from Volvo!) and as you tension the belt, the shaft of the injection pump will rotate--at least a little bit.  If you don't reset it, fuel injection timing will be off, and that is a bad thing.  Late injection will result in unburned fuel and reduced power, early injection can seriously damage the engine if the fuel ignites significantly before TDC. The adjustment is a little fiddly, but not hard.

It might be our imagination, but it sure looks like we accumulate a lot less soot on the hull after this job. Could fine tuning  the pump timing have helped with this chronic problem?

This is a very important project on these engines.  If the belt breaks or gets loose enough to jump a couple cogs the valves and pistons will hit each other and in seconds your engine turns into a very expensive mooring anchor. It's worth doing better than just eyeballing the belt tension, which is really high and quite hard to do by feel.

Re: Ground strap in bilge

 

Copper wire should work. I still prefer copper bar. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 2:53 PM Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill what’s your thoughts on using copper wire, instead of the strap. Will this provide enough electrical conductivity?

Regards

Ross
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K 356
Currently Croatia


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On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 9:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
That is awesome Robin.
I will be onto it in the morning.

All the best,
Randall

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.
It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

Robin 
Amel 54 # 54
Carré d‘As


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Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.
I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

Thanks again,
Randall
54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

Robin
Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara
Carré d‘As

Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

Mark Garver
 

Hi Mark,

No, unfortunately I did not get a manual for the earlier SM’s — as you say it would be very handy to have. The search continues! 

Best,

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On Oct 19, 2019, at 4:58 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

They are also very bad for French aircraft.  Don’t feel left out :-)

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Fiji


On 19 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Did you ever get the earlier SM manual?

We have #110 and a manual would be very handy.

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Randall
 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.
Glad I joined this group.
And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

I love my boat,
Randall
A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
That is awesome Robin.
I will be onto it in the morning.

All the best,
Randall

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.
It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

Robin 
Amel 54 # 54
Carré d‘As


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Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.
I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

Thanks again,
Randall
54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

Robin
Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara
Carré d‘As

Re: Mizzen mast paint.

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I painted my main mast with alwgrip ten yrs. and it was a perfect match. I just sanded it with 320 grit and then roll and tipped it , I did not prime it other than a few spots where I had corrosion. Having the boat repainted this winter due to a 47' cat who drug anchor and hit us at 4:30 am. in Guadeloupe . I will try to determine the paint color and get back ,need to anyway as I plan to paint the mizzen mast and the booms since I will be demasting the boat to go into a shed for painting .
Pat,
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <john.biohead@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen mast paint.

Hi Paul,
  I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store.  Check the Forum for my post.  Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour? 
Anyone who have painted your self who kan give advice on how to. What primer did you use?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Joerg Esdorn
 

I have Furuno Tz as the main system using C map charts. I do all routing on a laptop Interfaced with the Furuno and running the same charts.  I’ve come to appreciate Navionics app and charts on my iPad because it often provides additional detail on anchorages.  But cmap charts are sometimes more accurate as well.  So bottom line is: two separate systems is a good idea.  I like Navionics generally but any app on a tablet is no match for a real computer when you want to build a route. For serious weather routing you will need a laptop anyways.