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Re: Fuel tank

Randall
 

Tom have you considered having it cut into small parts and taken out they do it all the time in houses where the tank was installed in the basement before the house went up.
Just a thought look into it,

Randall
AMEL 54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of SY Aphrodite via Groups.Io <onboardaphrodite@...>
Sent: October 19, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel tank
 
Hello Group
This is Thomas Deasy S/Y Aphrodite
1983 Maramu #125
I have a leak in my fuel tank and I will be replacing it !!
Any information on taking the old one out and replacing with a new one would be appreciated. I remember reading that it can be taken out but don’t know what needs to be removed to do this?


Such as the island cabinet in the main cabin, stairs, hand rail, hard dodger? I am on the hard in Cartagena Columbia and receiving bids for a new tank. The only change I would like would be clean out ports.
Thanks for any ideas Tom Deasy



Re: Fuel tank

James Alton
 

Tom,

  In my case, I found that the only problem areas of my tank were in the welded areas of the front of the tank.  The rest of the tank (and especially the bottom which was a relief) was essentially perfect.    I was able to move the tank inboard with the tank still in the pass thru area to the aft cabin and have the cracks welded.  It might be worth having a close look at your tank before building a new one.  I was able to move the tank around myself with some well placed blocks, it isn't terribly heavy.  Completely removing the tank in one pc. Appears to be possible with removal of some of the interior and possibly the hardtop but best to talk to someone that has done it.

Best of luck,
James SV Sueno,  Maramu #220



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From: "SY Aphrodite via Groups.Io" <onboardaphrodite@...>
Date: 10/19/19 8:44 PM (GMT+02:00)
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel tank

Hello Group
This is Thomas Deasy S/Y Aphrodite
1983 Maramu #125
I have a leak in my fuel tank and I will be replacing it !!
Any information on taking the old one out and replacing with a new one would be appreciated. I remember reading that it can be taken out but don’t know what needs to be removed to do this?


Such as the island cabinet in the main cabin, stairs, hand rail, hard dodger? I am on the hard in Cartagena Columbia and receiving bids for a new tank. The only change I would like would be clean out ports.
Thanks for any ideas Tom Deasy



Re: Have I lost the bow thruster prop ?

John Clark
 

Hi Nicole,
    Sounds like you lost the prop.  Same thing happened to me in St Thomas while turning 180 degrees in a tight marina.  

If you have the bow thruster kit and calm water you can remove the lower unit and replace the prop in about an hour.  Quicker after you figure out how to do it.  I replaced ours at anchor with no hiccups.  Always carry a spare...an Amel spare not the knock off copies.

If the water is clear you should be able to see the prop when it is deployed....

Regards, John

SV Annie SM37
Brunswick GA

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 3:30 PM Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io <laixoi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello everybody

Today was my first sea trial to ferry SM471 to it's new home , and before exiting the rather large and peaceful port of "Le Frioul",
I thought I would be a good idea to pratice a few strait  line in reverse using the bow thruster in burst of 6 to 8 sec (rather then 2 or 3 sec ??) when needed.The wind was 15~20 KTS  gusting 30 .
After 20 good minutes of practice ,actionning the bow thruster control was no longer moving the bow ,but we could hear the motor running !!
Any thoughts, short of diving under without a wetsuit ?
Thanks
Nick
SM471

Have I lost the bow thruster prop ?

Nicolas Klene
 

Hello everybody

Today was my first sea trial to ferry SM471 to it's new home , and before exiting the rather large and peaceful port of "Le Frioul",
I thought I would be a good idea to pratice a few strait  line in reverse using the bow thruster in burst of 6 to 8 sec (rather then 2 or 3 sec ??) when needed.The wind was 15~20 KTS  gusting 30 .
After 20 good minutes of practice ,actionning the bow thruster control was no longer moving the bow ,but we could hear the motor running !!
Any thoughts, short of diving under without a wetsuit ?
Thanks
Nick
SM471

Re: Fuel tank

Wade Shikoski
 
Edited

Tom, 
I recently pulled the fuel tank on my 83 maramu. I had an unknown leak at the forward end of it that had rotted a small section of the companionway bulkhead just to the left (starboard) of the stoop. I was worried about the integrity of the tank and needed to make repairs to the bulkhead and inspect the tank. After pulling the tank I was able to determine that the cause of the leak was a kink in the metal return line hose that had been leaking. I believe this occurred a number of years ago when the previous owner installed a 110V switch board above the tank at this location. Over time the leaking hose had soaked into the bulkhead. I pulled the tank and cut out the damaged section of bulkhead, ground back any delaminated tabbing and reinstalled a new section of the bulkhead using oversized peyson joints on both sides of the bulkhead. 

Regarding your question, I can explain exactly how I removed my tank and would be happy to talk with you in person and walk you through the process. I also have extensive pictures I could provide. In summary, I had to remove a 100V pannel that was located above the tank, then removed the top board and facing and the lower retaining board. Once free there is a vent in the aft back corner that needs to be removed, the return line in the forward back corner and the fill hose. Also the lower forward supply line must be disconnected. After that you will need 2 big guys to muscle the tank out. I moved mine to the saloon area alone but would not do that again as the tank is shaped to the hull with the lower portion of it being only approx 6" wide. It will try to fall over very easily. 

 Regarding additional removal of saloon cabinetry to prep to move the tank. You will need to unbolt the liquor cabinet from the main area and move it over towards the port seats. I dont believe you will need to remove either the stairs or starboard grab rail that is beside the stairs. I did not need to do that in order to move my tank into the saloon. After careful inspection of my tank and determining the cause of my leak I decided not to remove the tank from the boat but just move it into the saloon while repairs to the bulkhead were being completed. However, I considered moving it out of the boat in order to get it pressure tested and cleaned. Therefore, I did measure the tank and companionway entrance to determine if it was possible. I believe I would have needed to remove the companionway sliding door in order to have enough clearance to get the tank all the way out of the boat. 

pls feel free to contact me directly if you would like to discuss further or would like pictures of the process. you can email me at N2everythg at yahoo

Fuel tank

SY Aphrodite <onboardaphrodite@...>
 

Hello Group
This is Thomas Deasy S/Y Aphrodite
1983 Maramu #125
I have a leak in my fuel tank and I will be replacing it !!
Any information on taking the old one out and replacing with a new one would be appreciated. I remember reading that it can be taken out but don’t know what needs to be removed to do this?


Such as the island cabinet in the main cabin, stairs, hand rail, hard dodger? I am on the hard in Cartagena Columbia and receiving bids for a new tank. The only change I would like would be clean out ports.
Thanks for any ideas Tom Deasy

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Paul,

 

We have been turned onto iSailor by other cruisers who use it. I downloaded the app and charts. It really works well. One of the very appealing features is you “rent” the charts rather than buy them at full price. The price of the rental averages about US$30 for a year and charts are automatically updated when newer versions become available.

 

http://www.isailor.us/

 

We use iSailor only as a secondary system to our main onboard ships custom PC running Nobeltec Time Zero: https://mytimezero.com/

 

We have used Nobeltec TZ  as our primary source for navigation since purchasing Cream Puff. We upgraded the ships PC to a solid-state computer custom built for us by Island Time PC and linked the PC to the NMEA 0183. Other aspects include integrated ActiveCaptain and AIS. In addition to a very comprehensive routing engine we have the ability to download weather and sea conditions while in-route using our sat-phone. This overlays onto the plotter and the routing engine will adjust the suggested course as necessary.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Matt Salatino
 

INavX is quite good.
It’s just missing Active Captain inputs, which would make it perfect!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Laurie McCall <laurie.mcreid@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,

John and I attended the Navigation Apps seminar at the Annapolis Boat Show last week.

The speaker’s (a former US Coast Guard captain) top recommendation was iNavX. He based this on accuracy, integration with other navigation software (including Navionics) and (as I recall) weather software, as well as all around versatility. 

I’ve included the link here: 

I took notes and would be pleased to provide them if you’re interested, ASSUMING, that I can still find them in my collection of “show stuff” and can read my back-of-the-envelope chicken scratch! 

Laurie 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 8:03 AM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Previous boat didn’t have a chart plotter. We used OpenCPN with a waterproof, daylight readable tablet at the helm, connected via WiFi to the hardwired pc at the nav station. The NMEA bus, AIS, Radar, and autopilot were connected and viewable. We also could download animated GRIB files on the chart. We controlled the autopilot with routes. Using TeamViewer as the connecting app, we could see the screens on any device, android, Apple, or windows. With OpenCPN’s most recent update, allowing split screen, and a refined control menu, it rivals pretty much any chartplotter.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 19, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Peter Forbes
 

Yes I have both and both are useful BUT I don’t seem to be able to get tidal streams [current and direction] live time on I Navx. I have ‘Aye tides” but this only gives depths and not tidal streams live time. Europe is the area I am interested in at the moment.

Any ideas?

Peter Forbes
Carango
Amel 54 - 035
La Rochelle 
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 19 Oct 2019, at 17:04, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

I love iNavX infinitely better than my chart plotter 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54#101


On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:

Hi,
The problem with Navionics is all charts are stored in the internal storage of the tablet. It is not possible to put the charts on extra sd-cards.
As I have C-map on Furuno Navnet and Maxsea , the Navionics are good on the tablet. Navionics gave information of the inlets of the US Eastcoast where C-map shows zero !
This year a catamaran hit a reef not shown on Navionics - always have several informations in these places.Don't miss the papercharts at the Exumas, Bahamas.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162




Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Courtney Gorman
 

I love iNavX infinitely better than my chart plotter 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54#101


On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:

Hi,
The problem with Navionics is all charts are stored in the internal storage of the tablet. It is not possible to put the charts on extra sd-cards.
As I have C-map on Furuno Navnet and Maxsea , the Navionics are good on the tablet. Navionics gave information of the inlets of the US Eastcoast where C-map shows zero !
This year a catamaran hit a reef not shown on Navionics - always have several informations in these places.Don't miss the papercharts at the Exumas, Bahamas.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162




Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hi,
The problem with Navionics is all charts are stored in the internal storage of the tablet. It is not possible to put the charts on extra sd-cards.
As I have C-map on Furuno Navnet and Maxsea , the Navionics are good on the tablet. Navionics gave information of the inlets of the US Eastcoast where C-map shows zero !
This year a catamaran hit a reef not shown on Navionics - always have several informations in these places.Don't miss the papercharts at the Exumas, Bahamas.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162




Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Laurie McCall
 

Hi Paul,

John and I attended the Navigation Apps seminar at the Annapolis Boat Show last week.

The speaker’s (a former US Coast Guard captain) top recommendation was iNavX. He based this on accuracy, integration with other navigation software (including Navionics) and (as I recall) weather software, as well as all around versatility. 

I’ve included the link here: 

I took notes and would be pleased to provide them if you’re interested, ASSUMING, that I can still find them in my collection of “show stuff” and can read my back-of-the-envelope chicken scratch! 

Laurie 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 8:03 AM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Previous boat didn’t have a chart plotter. We used OpenCPN with a waterproof, daylight readable tablet at the helm, connected via WiFi to the hardwired pc at the nav station. The NMEA bus, AIS, Radar, and autopilot were connected and viewable. We also could download animated GRIB files on the chart. We controlled the autopilot with routes. Using TeamViewer as the connecting app, we could see the screens on any device, android, Apple, or windows. With OpenCPN’s most recent update, allowing split screen, and a refined control menu, it rivals pretty much any chartplotter.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 19, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Matt Salatino
 

Previous boat didn’t have a chart plotter. We used OpenCPN with a waterproof, daylight readable tablet at the helm, connected via WiFi to the hardwired pc at the nav station. The NMEA bus, AIS, Radar, and autopilot were connected and viewable. We also could download animated GRIB files on the chart. We controlled the autopilot with routes. Using TeamViewer as the connecting app, we could see the screens on any device, android, Apple, or windows. With OpenCPN’s most recent update, allowing split screen, and a refined control menu, it rivals pretty much any chartplotter.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 19, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Boating app from Navionics, Navionics chart on both plotters, OpenCPN WITH Google Earth charts and Ovitalmap for the shoal, bommy infested areas.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Fiji




On 19 Oct 2019, at 18:06, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:



I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

They are also very bad for French aircraft.  Don’t feel left out :-)

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Fiji


On 19 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Did you ever get the earlier SM manual?

We have #110 and a manual would be very handy.

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Ian Townsend
 

We also Navionics via subscription service. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

Mark Barter
 

Hi Mark,

Did you ever get the earlier SM manual?

We have #110 and a manual would be very handy.

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ah, my apologies, I asked for a MDKBN, but I am still amazed at the price difference. As for shipping they did say in an email that they would ship abroad and not include VAT.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 19 October 2019 05:23
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

 

Paul,

Are you sure the part you have seen at Sea Power Marine is for the MDKD genset?  That is a model significantly older and rather different than the one on your boat.  They also state on their website that they do not ship outside the UK (in fact, they exclude a lot of the UK from their sales territory!)


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Back up tablet navigation aid

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

I use Navionics – better than my chart plotter.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 23:36
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid

 

I just bought a new ios tablet to use as a secondary plotter. What programs are you using?  and what to stay away from. sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean.  


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

eric freedman
 

There was a vendor on EBay that made beautiful cast stainless exhaust elbows for Yanmars. Much better than the factory version. I have one Kimberlite  and it is flawless. Possibly someone can find them and ask is the do,  or will make the elbow you need.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Miles
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:23 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

 

Keran, Mark,

 

If anyone winds up having a genset exhaust elbow made,  I would like to have one also.  Maybe added numbers will reduce the unit cost. 

 

Miles Bidwell

 

s/y Ladybug, sm216 Newport, RI  soon leaving for Martinique