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Re: Ground strap in bilge

Olaf Bauer
 

Hello all,

 

We used the copper ground trap from the company Druseidt in Remscheid, Germany. It costs around EUR 45 and it is protected by a PVC overmoulding and the copper strap ends strengthened with copper shells (see attached pic).

 

My last  order is also attached if someone would like to order.

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently in Trinidad

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I had copied from an earlier post from Bills photo album I believe.

 

Randall

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

 

Kind Regards

 

Ross 

SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

 

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

 

Thanks,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Randall
 

I had copied from an earlier post from Bills photo album I believe.

Randall
A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Polytrol Marine Coating

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Greetings All,

There was some discussion of this product a while back. Does anyone know if this can be had in Trinidad. There are no Caribbean distributers officially. 

Thank you in advance. 

Chuck 

Joy #388

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

I stand corrected!  It looks like that there is a small water jacket in the Onan Exhaust elbow after all.  Here is a picture that I found looking down the the back side of one on Alex from Nikimat's website:



http://www.nikimat.com/parts_for_sale/onan_155_3261_02_mixer_elbow_exhaust_manifold.html

It is a relatively simple part to fabricate. I will take mine off after we winterize the boat in the next few weeks and have a closer look at making a replacement from 316 Stainless.

Mark
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Fuel tank

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Tom,

I also suspected a leak in my fuel tank but after removal to the passage area, I determined it was only the inspection plate leaking.  If you can move it to the passage way and support it, check to see if it still leaks when only partially full (below the inspection plate).  It's a pain to empty and then partially fill and then empty again, but it beats removing it.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121

Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

Paul Osterberg
 

Mark
Well I have not yet bought the new head just decided, that is probably the best option. The reason for the inspection hatch was to get access to the bolt heads below the surface as one of the holes was "enlarged" and had no thread. But to no good for this time as the hole to fasten the head was down into a hollow beam so no access, but next time it will be easy to attache the new head with the hatch in place.
Paul

Re: Main furler and furler gear box

Mark McGovern
 

Paul,

Lot's of good information on the main furler in this thread:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/29770769#43884

and in this Photo Album:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=84576

My furler was completely seized up so I just completely overhauled it.   My gearbox, however, appeared to be fine so I just re-greased it and re-installed it. 

Mark

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

Are you talking about the Onan Exhaust Elbow or the Onan Exhaust Manifold?  See the picture below:



The Exhaust Elbow looks like a fabricated part that does NOT have a water jacket.  The Exhaust Manifold certainly does have a water jacket and looks like a fairly complex cast and machined part.

Thanks,
Mark

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

Did the holes align when you changed out the old style Jabsco toilet base for the new one.

 

Also, what is the purpose of the inspection hole?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 11:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Electric heads on Supermaramu

 

Ian and Judy
I have the same issue, one of the heads bases I manage to salvage by adding very large washers of aluminium, but the other one is probably to much work to fox, so I thinking of Buying a new Jabsco. I put in an inspection hatch to get access under. see photo

Paul on SY Kerpa AM#259

Main furler and furler gear box

Paul Osterberg
 

I dismantled the main furler today for maintenance of the furler, gear box and the elongated hole in the profile. are there any particular issues in service the gear box and the furler?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259 Lagos, Portugal

Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

Paul Osterberg
 

Ian and Judy
I have the same issue, one of the heads bases I manage to salvage by adding very large washers of aluminium, but the other one is probably to much work to fox, so I thinking of Buying a new Jabsco. I put in an inspection hatch to get access under. see photo

Paul on SY Kerpa AM#259

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Randall
 

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Ground strap in bilge

Mike Johnson
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As

Re: Mizzen mast paint.

 

Maybe there is more than one answer to this important question. And maybe the answer is not the same for all Amel Masts. I have the Renault Panda White #348 that John has posted, but I also have the following:
The paint Amel used on SMs is by AwlGrip. The type is 00B006G (also known as White Amel No 3).
The hardener is 000G3010 known as AWLCAT2
The thinner is 000T0001
The RAL color code is 1013

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:03 AM John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:
Hi Paul,
  the original paint code is Renault Panda Blanc (or White in US) #348   In the US NAPA has the formula to fabricate the paint on order.  Cost is about $15-20 USD per can.  

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 4:14 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul, I painted my main mast with alwgrip ten yrs. and it was a perfect match. I just sanded it with 320 grit and then roll and tipped it , I did not prime it other than a few spots where I had corrosion. Having the boat repainted this winter due to a 47' cat who drug anchor and hit us at 4:30 am. in Guadeloupe . I will try to determine the paint color and get back ,need to anyway as I plan to paint the mizzen mast and the booms since I will be demasting the boat to go into a shed for painting .
Pat,
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <john.biohead@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen mast paint.

Hi Paul,
  I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store.  Check the Forum for my post.  Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour? 
Anyone who have painted your self who kan give advice on how to. What primer did you use?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 

Re: Outhaul on Supermaramu

 

I will answer privately within 2 hours. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 6:59 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Subject: Outhaul on Supermaramu
 
Hi Bill,

 On page 30 of your excellent ( May 2019)  Amel book appears a photo of the drive arm which connects the gearbox to the Andersen winch. On that arm is a bronze bushing.

 Can you explain where this bushing fits ?  Presumably it is not part of the gearbox ? Does that mean that it sits in the boom itself and helps to keep the drive arm in place rather than placing all the stress on the bolt which attaches the drive arm to the winch?

 The reason I ask is that since my drive arm was replaced in 2009 the four bolts attaching the bearbox to the bracket on the boom have worked to elongate the holes in the bracket.  I am about to dismount the boom, detach the arm and gearbox and have a new floor fitted to bracket with new holes drilled.   I am half expecting to find that when the drive arm was fitted in 2009 ( no names mentioned--but it wasn't me ! ) the bush was omitted and that has resulted in the wear on the bracket.

 Anyone else had a similar problem ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

 

No primer, but sand well. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 9:07 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Great.  Thank you.  Is any primer necessary, or simply pile on the coats?

-James
On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

James,

Ditto on what Karen said. It is water base, flexible, and will need 3-5 coats. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:49 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use paint made for inflatable dinghies. The bumper is made of dense closed cell polyurethane foam. We have used the West Marine Brand with excellent luck by following preparation directions _exactly_.  We re-paint once a year and have never had a failure of the paint. 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--top-coating-for-inflatable-boats-gray-quart--P010_301_001_501  (Pick your favorite color!)

Anything else will be too brittle and crack off, epoxy will be even worse.  You really should use a water based paint, since some solvents can attack the surface of the closed cell foam leaving you worse off than before you started.

Painting this part BEFORE it needs it is key to keeping it protected from UV and having a long lasting, good looking, bumper.  They are expensive, and sometime hard to get. Take good care of it and it will last a very long time.



Re: Outhaul on Supermaramu

Gary Silver
 

Ian and Judy:

As to the elongating of the holes in the boom mounting plate.  This occurs due to the torque that is applied to those mounting holes each time the out-haul is used.  Originally Amel fitted rubber grommets around the mounting bolts to prevent contact between the mounting bolts and the aluminum  (for corrosion protection, shock mounting, and to prevent mounting plate wear).  Those soon deteriorate but are readily available for replacement.  If you notice your out-haul assembly moving back and forth with activation of the outhaul (in either direction) it is probably time to replace the rubber grommets.  I don't recall the size off hand, but the specifications take into account the thickness of the "groove" to match the mounting plate, the ID for the bolt and the "groove" diameter for the mounting plate. 

Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335

Re: Outhaul on Supermaramu

Gary Silver
 

Ian and Judy:

The bronze bushing I believe you are referring to  (the only one on the drive shaft for the outhaul) fits into the top of the Anderson winch cap.  You should be able to view it by looking sideways into the space between the Anderson winch cap and the "arm" of the drive shaft. 

Re: Mizzen mast paint.

John Clark
 

Hi Paul,
  the original paint code is Renault Panda Blanc (or White in US) #348   In the US NAPA has the formula to fabricate the paint on order.  Cost is about $15-20 USD per can.  

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 4:14 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul, I painted my main mast with alwgrip ten yrs. and it was a perfect match. I just sanded it with 320 grit and then roll and tipped it , I did not prime it other than a few spots where I had corrosion. Having the boat repainted this winter due to a 47' cat who drug anchor and hit us at 4:30 am. in Guadeloupe . I will try to determine the paint color and get back ,need to anyway as I plan to paint the mizzen mast and the booms since I will be demasting the boat to go into a shed for painting .
Pat,
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <john.biohead@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen mast paint.

Hi Paul,
  I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store.  Check the Forum for my post.  Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour? 
Anyone who have painted your self who kan give advice on how to. What primer did you use?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos