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Re: Companion way for removal

eric freedman
 

Hi,

To apply laminate contact cement is used. Please remember to let both  surfaces dry before joining the laminate to the door,

When the two touch they cannot be separated, be careful.. I chose Formica brand laminate only because it looks closest to teak here in the USA. Just pick the one that you like, they are all basically the same. Just be sure to get the thicker variety of the laminate. Although the look is identical they often come in a very thin and a thicker style.

Fair Winds

Eric

sm

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Eric- that looks awesome and has inspired us to put this project on the list. Can you describe the glue you used and did you consider any other faux veneers ?

Re: Water in Forward Head Bilge and Bow Thruster

ngtnewington Newington
 

I agree with Tom on this one. I spent ages looking for a leaking seal on my bow thruster. To no avail. Eventually I resorted to hammering to windward whilst locked in the forpeak with a headlamp. Within a few minutes it was clear that the source of the leak was not the bow thruster at all, but the hatch gutter drain that is piped to the Bowthruster box with a flexible white ribbed pipe. These white pipes are glassed into the box (that the thruster rises into when up)  and it was there that the water leaked. Whenever the bow was buried into a wave it would spurt a little. At anchor of course it would be well above the waterline. It only happened when sailing in brisk winds. I was so sure that the pressure of burying the bow put the thruster seals under load and that they were the source.

The fix was so easy….just to re seal it with some silicon. Actually next time I get some 5200 I will re-do it as that is much stronger (note to self).

Nick

S/Y Amelia Aml 54-019 Kefalonia

On 13 Oct 2019, at 17:24, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

We have struggled on and off with small amounts of water in the bilge due to ingress from the bow thruster. At times perfectly dry, other times not so. Refining the hard seal seemed to help (the hole for the thruster had been modified by the previous owner).
One month ago we installed the special silicon seal that had been developed by Jose of Ipanema. This weekend (first at sea since then) I was distressed to see about one liter of water in the bilge. However, on closer inspection, the thruster area was bone dry (thank you, Jose). Further inspection showed the leak to be coming from the anchor wash pump, which had a disintegrating gasket. Very slow leak if the head through-hull is open, more vigorous when the pump was actuated. 
Just an FYI for all. Not all water in the forward bilge is from the thruster. Beware of false assumptions.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, US
Departing for Martinique November 3

Water in Forward Head Bilge and Bow Thruster

Thomas Peacock
 

We have struggled on and off with small amounts of water in the bilge due to ingress from the bow thruster. At times perfectly dry, other times not so. Refining the hard seal seemed to help (the hole for the thruster had been modified by the previous owner).
One month ago we installed the special silicon seal that had been developed by Jose of Ipanema. This weekend (first at sea since then) I was distressed to see about one liter of water in the bilge. However, on closer inspection, the thruster area was bone dry (thank you, Jose). Further inspection showed the leak to be coming from the anchor wash pump, which had a disintegrating gasket. Very slow leak if the head through-hull is open, more vigorous when the pump was actuated. 
Just an FYI for all. Not all water in the forward bilge is from the thruster. Beware of false assumptions.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, US
Departing for Martinique November 3

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

 

Barry,


They have shipped sails to over 40 Amel owners located at all points around the world. QSails is run by the 2nd generation of the Oge family, Emrah Oge <emrahoge at qsails.com>. I toured their 60,000 square foot loft in Izmir, Turkey and met all of the family and some of the workers. We designed 3 qualities of QSails for A54s including German-made HydraNet. Emrah supports the Amel Yacht Owners Group and has a advertisement on the group's WiKi page at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/wiki/home. Email or call Emrah and ask him about the HydraNet Genoa that Bill Rouse recommends for your 54. Note: I do not own any part of QSails and receive zero from QSails. I also purchased a full set of HydraNet sails for our SM from QSails. 

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 5:14 AM Barry Connor via Groups.Io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill Rouse from Barry Connor Amel 54. #17

I have decided to replace my Genoa before I cross the Atlantic. 

I think that you recommend and have a good contact with Q sails in Turkey. The original Amel supplied Genoa has been very hardy and worked well.
I don't want to buy a less quality sail. I think that the original Genoa sail supplied by Amel was called Hydra-net?

Can you advise the best sail for cruising? We will be doing our circumnavigation for the next 5 years.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"S/V Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Almerimar Marina,  Spain

Re: Companion way for removal

Thomas Kleman
 

Eric- that looks awesome and has inspired us to put this project on the list. Can you describe the glue you used and did you consider any other faux veneers ?

Re: Annapolis Boat Show--Harmonie Open Boat--Oct 12

Laurie McCall
 

Thank you so much for hosting the open boat.  It was delightful to meet you, and other Amelians. Seeing a “real” Amel home and hearing your stories have entirely erased the very few misgivings that had lingered in the back of my “farmer’s (granddaughter) brain”.

Your homes are beautiful, comfortable, and welcoming. Getting ready for winter in Ottawa can feel like hunkering down and spring can seem too far away to contemplate. But having met you and fellow Amelians, John & I are re-energized in our plans. 

Thank you again for your hospitality! 

The next time you’re in the Maritimes you really must go to St. John’s Nfld. Newfies are like Bluenosers with bigger personalities! 

I you happen to be in Ottawa before we move onto our own Amel, please promise you will stay with us!

Laurie

On Sep 21, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie@...> wrote:

In addition to the other meet-ups around the Annapolis Boat show, we will be hosting an "open boat" onboard Harmonie SM160 from 4 to 8PM on Saturday Oct 12.  We are docked at Burt Jabin's Yacht Yard, a short water taxi (or dinghy!) ride from the boat show in Back Creek Annapolis.  Refreshments will be served...

Harmonie is fresh from a summer cruising Atlantic Canada so great cruising stories will be available to swap. We'll likely be in the middle of some projects, so the boat might not be in showroom shape, but it will be a more informative visit for all that!

RSVP to kls6917 (at) aol.com

Looking forward to seeing our fellow Amel owners (and potential owners)!

Karen Smith & Bill Kinney
S/V Harmonie
SM160
http://fetchinketch.net

Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

Craig -

It works perfectly.

I just figure it's a bit silty here and I'd rather not run it near a city especially when we can hopefully get dock water easily.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Battery Chargers

John Clark
 

Hi Kent,
   I have the Magna 4124 inverter-charger.  105 amps DC charging capacity...though that is a bit much for my battery bank.  I got the remote control module which lets you program just about any charge profile you wish.    I imaging the battery charger only version will have the same charging capabilities.  I had no issues with the unit for first 8 months then the charging routine developed a mind of its own.  After some phone troubleshooting the tech rep figured out the charging control board had failed and had the unit replaced under warrantee.   No issues since.

I got the inverter-charger unit so it could act as a whole house supplier of 230v/50hz AC.  Our little 600w inverter is ok to run the ice maker and charge phones but not much else.  With the big inverter we don't have to start the genset for short duration high power loads like a shop vac, microwave, toaster....   It wires in at the Amel auto transfer switch and is invisible.  If we are not using it I turn it off at the remote control panel. 

The remote control is also handy. On the inverter model it can display the internal temperature of key electronic components...especially important if you install the unit in the engine room as I did.  (FYI no temperature issues when located in the forward port corner. On Annie this is the area where air is introduced to the engine room.)

I purchased the unit through Marysville Marine distributors.  

Regards,  John

SV Annie SM37
Brunswick GA




On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:39 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All!  Great to see/meet so many of you at Annapolis this weekend.

I am looking for a new battery charger.  I have 8 group 31 Crown 130 AHr batteries for 520AHr bank at 24 V.DC.  They require equalizing at 31V for 1-4 hours periodically.  My Victron Skylla-i 80 amp charger has died and won’t be back from repair facility until after we leave.  It wasn’t ideal because of safety limits built in that don’t allow it to adequately desulfate my bank.
 I’m looking for a 80-100 A charger that will do what I need it to do and will allow equalization to be started/stopped from the remote panel.  Victron and MasterVolt don’t have that remote function.  Im considering a change to Lithium, but am not ready to pull the trigger yet...it’d be better if my new charger would also work on a Lithium system if/when I make the switch.
  I’ve found two that look like they will do what I want , NEWMAR and MAGNUM.  Does anyone have experience with these brands?  Any other recommendations?

thanks for you thoughts.
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Paul Brown
 

Hi Barry, I had a long discussion with one of the main sail designers of Incendence sails at the Cannes boat show, I expect they can arrange a great replacement as they have been installing sails to Amel for years, the sails on Fortuna are great and so strong they should last for many years. I believe they have all specs required for your 54 by hull number 

Perhaps you will then sail as fast as a 55 :-)

Worth the conversion 

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17


On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:14 pm, Barry Connor via Groups.Io <connor_barry@...> wrote:

Hi Bill Rouse from Barry Connor Amel 54. #17

I have decided to replace my Genoa before I cross the Atlantic. 

I think that you recommend and have a good contact with Q sails in Turkey. The original Amel supplied Genoa has been very hardy and worked well.
I don't want to buy a less quality sail. I think that the original Genoa sail supplied by Amel was called Hydra-net?

Can you advise the best sail for cruising? We will be doing our circumnavigation for the next 5 years.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"S/V Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Almerimar Marina,  Spain

New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill Rouse from Barry Connor Amel 54. #17

I have decided to replace my Genoa before I cross the Atlantic. 

I think that you recommend and have a good contact with Q sails in Turkey. The original Amel supplied Genoa has been very hardy and worked well.
I don't want to buy a less quality sail. I think that the original Genoa sail supplied by Amel was called Hydra-net?

Can you advise the best sail for cruising? We will be doing our circumnavigation for the next 5 years.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"S/V Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Almerimar Marina,  Spain

Companion way for removal

eric freedman
 

Hi Miles,

I wanted to replace the veneer on Kimberlites companionway and replace it with laminate.

To get to the entire door off  you have to remove the hard dodger.—NO WAY--

I removed the stop and blocked the companionway door all the way up till it touched the dodger. I then made a rail the height of the side trim.

Using these rails and a router I was able to get to  the edges of the door. Of course the veneer that is under the trim cannot be replaced but it cannot be seen. I then routed the entire door and applied the laminate- I used Formica brand color teak. Seven years and it is still holding up. However it is important to use wax to block the UV on the Formica.

Pictures attached.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:07 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Hi Miles,

I just did this job. Assuming the Maramu is similar to the A54, you just need to remove the small rectangular sheet of plywood that keeps the door from going too low. With it removed, you can drop the door far enough to replace the weather seal. I went nuts and removed the companionway steps - this is unnecessary unless you want to clean behind them while you're at it!

If you close the door from the inside and look near the bottom of the door, there should be screws and bolts securing a rectangular piece of plywood, which itself is behind/aft of the companionway door. On ours, it's held by 3 wood screws and 2 bolts. Careful with the bolts as they have tiny nuts which you may lose as you're removing them.

We just sanded the veneer with the door in-situ. If you want to remove the door completely, I think you need to remove the hard dodger. Hope this helps. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Scott,
Just curious, is your water maker not in working condition?
Craig

Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks Alan, very helpful.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Scott, we are on a mooring in Back Creek right in Front of Bert Jabins Yacht Yard. They have a couple of docks which they use for center console boats to haul in and out each time they use and they have power and water on these docks and they are not busy during the week so give them a call. we did it once and pumped our holding tnks at the same time, they only charged for the holding tanks as they have no way to meter the water so call them.
Bert Jabins Yacht Yard (410) 268-9667
Great meeting you last night, you will have fun in DC we did it in June
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai

Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

It was great meeting everyone last night and putting faces to names!

Quick logistics question for those familiar with the area: We will be leaving Annapolis sometime next week, heading down to the Potomac and then sailing (motoring) up to DC and would like to fill up on fresh water on our way. Any idea where we can do that? 

The marina we stayed at in Hampton had water at the fuel dock, so I'm hoping we can find something similar. I saw that Annapolis City Dock has hourly dockage, but I think that might be a tad busy. :)
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Companion way for removal

Scott SV Tengah
 

Hi Miles,

I just did this job. Assuming the Maramu is similar to the A54, you just need to remove the small rectangular sheet of plywood that keeps the door from going too low. With it removed, you can drop the door far enough to replace the weather seal. I went nuts and removed the companionway steps - this is unnecessary unless you want to clean behind them while you're at it!

If you close the door from the inside and look near the bottom of the door, there should be screws and bolts securing a rectangular piece of plywood, which itself is behind/aft of the companionway door. On ours, it's held by 3 wood screws and 2 bolts. Careful with the bolts as they have tiny nuts which you may lose as you're removing them.

We just sanded the veneer with the door in-situ. If you want to remove the door completely, I think you need to remove the hard dodger. Hope this helps. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

eric freedman
 

Thanks again

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 9:07 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

It’s just under 1/8” about 5mm

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243



On Oct 10, 2019, at 9:04 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

Would you mind measuring the wall thickness of this gaskefw

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243





On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

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Battery Chargers

karkauai
 

Hi All!  Great to see/meet so many of you at Annapolis this weekend.

I am looking for a new battery charger.  I have 8 group 31 Crown 130 AHr batteries for 520AHr bank at 24 V.DC.  They require equalizing at 31V for 1-4 hours periodically.  My Victron Skylla-i 80 amp charger has died and won’t be back from repair facility until after we leave.  It wasn’t ideal because of safety limits built in that don’t allow it to adequately desulfate my bank.
 I’m looking for a 80-100 A charger that will do what I need it to do and will allow equalization to be started/stopped from the remote panel.  Victron and MasterVolt don’t have that remote function.  Im considering a change to Lithium, but am not ready to pull the trigger yet...it’d be better if my new charger would also work on a Lithium system if/when I make the switch.
  I’ve found two that look like they will do what I want , NEWMAR and MAGNUM.  Does anyone have experience with these brands?  Any other recommendations?

thanks for you thoughts.
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

karkauai
 

It’s just under 1/8” about 5mm

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Oct 10, 2019, at 9:04 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

Would you mind measuring the wall thickness of this gaskefw

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243




On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

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Companion way for removal

smiles bernard
 

Hello

In a big downpour in the way back home to via Azores we had heavy driving rain from the rear and some made its way inside via the companion way lifting door

I think it was running down the outer face of the door then finding its way inside under the companionway steps.

I’ve seen a number of threads about resealing the companion way door but I’m still unsure how to remove it

The ply veneer on ours needs some love so I was thinking of removing the door, sorting the veneer and seal at the same time

Any hints or tips re door removal and resealing much appreciated

All the best

Miles
Maramu #162
Plymouth uk