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Re: Battery compartment size
Alan Grayson
Hi I measure 164 x 56 x 27.5. we have 10 Firefly Oasis batteries and we kept 2 starter batteries and joined them in parallel with the original start battery which keeps us a 13 batteries total. See picture.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
St Lucia
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...>
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 11:56 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery compartment size Can anyone tell me the useable internal dimensions for the battery compartment on the SM 2000 Redline with comfort pack. Ie 12 house batteries and starter.
I'm stuck away from my boat and would like to make some use of this lockdown period. I have rough measurements of 160cm x 54cm x 27cm however the package I have decided on is extremely close to these measurements with no room for error. Cheers.
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Re: Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor
Jose Venegas
Unfortunately, the exercise did not go well and, in spite of having proper oil in the system and water circling around, after a few minutes there was a change in sound accompanied by smoke and, after immediately turning off the power the motor seized. So it seems that this is the end of the road for this motor. After opening the motor I noticed some burnt wires (those holding the electric wiring) and realized that the high-pressure pump bearing was shared by the motor, which means I cannot take the motor alone to a shop for possible repair but will have to be the full assembly.
My question is whether anyone has had the motor/high-pressure pump repaired, and, if so, whether anybody knows a good shop in Grenada. Alternatively, given the 20 years of age of the water maker, I would appreciate a contact on the island that could help me fix the problem. Thanks a lot in advance Jose and Magnolia Ipanema SM2k, 278 Happily stuck in Grenada for at least another month
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Re: Getting to St Maarten- New York
Hi Eric,
I live on St. Maarten and at present the way they want to “see” things happening for people that want to evacuate their boat from St. Maarten is that they will allow people to fly in from abroad as of June 1st, when landend you are supposed to go to your boat and leave within 24 hrs. Clearly this idea is conceived by persons clueless about the reality of preparing a boat for large crossings. So I expect a lot of people will protest agains this “arrangement”. This Island is governed by people that regrettably don’t have the skill-set required for such a task. The effect is that rulings change at a pace hard to keep up with. The ‘randomness” of the rulings is often frustrating as well. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna A54-121
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Battery compartment size
Bryce Procter
Can anyone tell me the useable internal dimensions for the battery compartment on the SM 2000 Redline with comfort pack. Ie 12 house batteries and starter.
I'm stuck away from my boat and would like to make some use of this lockdown period. I have rough measurements of 160cm x 54cm x 27cm however the package I have decided on is extremely close to these measurements with no room for error. Cheers.
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Re: Getting to St Maarten- New York
eric freedman
They might open the airport for commercial traffic early June—let’s see what happens . I should have the new policy for the boats stranded In St Maarten Monday or Tuesday.. Fair Winds Eric
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:02 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten- New York
Hi Porter, Thanks for the offer. I plan on flying to St Thomas June 1st. I will either charter a small plane, if I can get into the airport, or a powerboat to take me to St Maarten June 2. If they will allow me I will haul the boat June 3 and have it surveyed. I will then have insurance. I will have a friend do my food shopping. We will fuel up and head directly for NY asap. If you can get to St Thomas, please join us. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Eric. Can you let me know when you are thinking. I’d love to help you if it works out and you need a hand.
Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS A54-152 (Opua) But we’re in Fort Lauderdale Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On May 23, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
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Getting to St Maarten- New York
eric freedman
Hi Porter, Thanks for the offer. I plan on flying to St Thomas June 1st. I will either charter a small plane, if I can get into the airport, or a powerboat to take me to St Maarten June 2. If they will allow me I will haul the boat June 3 and have it surveyed. I will then have insurance. I will have a friend do my food shopping. We will fuel up and head directly for NY asap. If you can get to St Thomas, please join us. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 2:39 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten
Eric. Can you let me know when you are thinking. I’d love to help you if it works out and you need a hand.
Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS A54-152 (Opua) But we’re in Fort Lauderdale Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net On May 23, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
Thank you Bill. thank you for good advice . particularly spilling saltwater in the engineroom is never easy to remove/collect and this is where it hurts most. ref water in bilge lockers; i feel more comfortable with the movable 150L/min pump .
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
Jeroen, If water gets into areas where it should not be, removing the water is the same as any other separate compartment. You need to pump it out. Generally any water in these compartments is minor. I used a "wet vacuum," which was needed for many other projects on my Amel. For instance, anytime I opened any freshwater or saltwater system, I did so with the vacuum hose in hand. This included installing an impeller or rebuilding a pump. My goal was to never allow a single drop of saltwater to escape and fall on anything in the engine room. The absence of rust will repay you 100 times the cost of these precautions when you sell your Amel.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:13 PM Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:
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Re: Self Insurance
Porter McRoberts
Could not agree more Mark.
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I gave him Bill Rouses number to discuss. Not sure if they called. Seemed like a reasonable approach. I’m not the best one to lead this charge, but interested as I’m sure most are in any outcome. Porter A54-152
On May 24, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
dear Bill, i do understand how the bulkhead system works, with the waterticht compartments, yet it is not clear to me how to remove water from these compartments, without the aid of a pump.
kind regards, jeroen ( i do realize the drain function from the showers , you need a lot of water before these start .)
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Re: Self Insurance
On a side note, if others are tired of this thread, there is a great feature in this group where topics can be muted. There is a link at the bottom of each email received.
Hi Porter,
I looked at Novamar when renewing our policy a couple of year ago. They made their entrance into the market by selling mostly west coast sailors policies for Mexico. The agent I use and trusts talked very highly of them. He has written tons of Novamar policies. On other forums they are well recommended. We opted not to use them since their underwriter was wary of Pacific Ocean policies and required a crew of three on passages over 1,000 nm (prior approval required). In addition at the time I looked into them they required a full out-of-water survey less than a year old. This added a substantial amount to the cost of a policy change. Otherwise, their insurance rates were reasonable.
My 2 cents – if we are to pursue a group policy, there needs to be a period of enrollment were some rules are waived to encourage sign-up and minimize the cost of change. Also, an understanding Amel owners regularly sail passages over 1,000 nm without the need of crew.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
[mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts
via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:51 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance
All. I spoke to My insurance agent Rob at Novamar. Some of you might know and use them. Specifically they were open to administering the program. They are reinsurers and have been quite capable and responsive in my limited interactions. Additionally they are sailors. Not sure if this would be a way to go.
I am of course interested as well. I think if we’ll done we’d have tremendous interest.
Porter A54-152 ibis.
Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On May 23, 2020, at 10:38 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
sorry, i never said i made holes in the bulkheads .
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Re: Starting Capacitor size for a 220v, 50Hz 2.5 kw water maker high pressure motor
Jose Venegas
After major surgery getting the motor/pump out of the engine room (there was no way I could get the back cover out) I found that after turning the motor by hand IT IS WORKING YEEEA!.
So, Mark you were correct. Now I need to get the motor do some excessive (we all s would do that during this COVID19 time) and I will be getting a newer (larger) capacitor next Monday. As usual, fixing one problem on an old boat usually means you break more part. In my case, the low pressure water inlet fitting to the pump broke in peaces when I tried to remove the hose. So, now I have a piece if the fitting inside the pump that I have to remove with a 1/2 in extractor that I have to buy on Monday together with a new fitting. Well that is the way it is, and I am very happy I don’t have to buy a new motor. (at least I hope so). Tomorrow I will know after I make it exercise for a couple of hours.) Thank you Mark and Amel Group. Jose and Magnolia Ipanema SM2k, 278 Happily stuck in Grenada for another month
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Re: Self Insurance
Porter McRoberts
All.
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I spoke to My insurance agent Rob at Novamar. Some of you might know and use them. Specifically they were open to administering the program. They are reinsurers and have been quite capable and responsive in my limited interactions. Additionally they are sailors. Not sure if this would be a way to go. I am of course interested as well. I think if we’ll done we’d have tremendous interest. Porter A54-152 ibis. Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On May 23, 2020, at 10:38 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Re: Self Insurance
Hi all,
Because we have had very few responses, we think that the uncertainty and amateurish sound of the initial posts has made people leery, and rightfully so. Teun (Amelit A54) and Ken (Aquarious SM 2K) have some insurance knowledge and contacts they think might be able to help us out together a workable hybrid plan. We are taking this discussion private until we have something more concrete to present. If anyone else wants to be in the loop as we discuss options, please let me know by private email. Kent SM243 Kristy
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Re: lowering mainsail
Hi Bill,
"Trying to find a line, bend it on and then .." We have dedicated messenger lines for both main and mizzen halyards in the port side aft cockpit locker ready to go. A size smaller than the actual halyards means the bowline you tie through the loop on the halyard end goes through the mast slot with no real problem. The Amel system certainly serves to reduce the amount of line there is swinging around the masts when sailing. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 - stuck in New Zealand, and me stuck in Australia!
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Re: lowering mainsail
Hi William,
This is not unique for Amel. Oyster, Hallberg Rassy and other do the same for the bigger yachts. If you have 18 meters or more of mast the halyards become very, very long. As you rarely lover the sail anyway the tail of this halyard will be dangling at the base of the mast for almost eternity. This is not very practical. So what you do is you use a half-halyard with a Flemish-eye at the tail side. This eye is used to tie as mouseline to (I'm using 6mm dyneema) if you need to lower the mainsail or genua. This mouse-line sits normally in one of the cockpit lockers and is not used for other purposes. On the Amet 54 you have a special track slider to tension the main halyard once it's up. I think the A55 has a secondary slide for the Genua as well. Kind regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Hi Jeroen,
It's not clear to me... where did you run the discharge hose for the new pump? These bilge compartments should always be dry so a high water alarm is usually sufficient for those rare times you have any liquid in there. Key words are "should" and "usually", but in my experience the only liquids have come from leaking provisions. Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM23 Opua, NZ
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Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54
On the topic of Bilge Pumps, what I find a bigger worry is the main bilge-pump can fail because of bad working valves. These are small rubber flaps inside the pump that start their career flat but over time become concave of shape. This can lead to (mainly the output valve) bad closing of this valve resulting in poor or no pumping action. You can replace the valves pretty easy and Amel sells the replacements.
This bilge-pump has a rough life as it needs to pump out quite some litres per day. Making sure you do not flush any solids in the sinks helps of course but I find the absence of a fall-back pump very annoying. There is a sensor that will send out an alarm if the bilge is over-flowing but it's position is not great to say the least. The water level will be quite high before that thing sends off an alarm. When the alarm sounds you will need to operate the manual bilge-pump as soon as you can and you will need to pump quite a lot of water overboard before the level is back to acceptable levels. Because of this I recently installed a secondary electric bilge pump with it's own solid state sensor next to the bilge-pit. The sensor sits at the top of the bilge-pit, so it will start the secondary pump before the pit overflows. It also has an alarm connected to the circuit to notify us about the problem. At least if now the primary pump fails I'm not forced to use the manual pump unless there is a huge ingress of water for whatever reason. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: lowering mainsail
Since the main and mizzen are in-mast furling sails and rarely dropped, having short halyards for the main and mizzen reduces line clutter on the deck. It is actually simple to use a messenger for both. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 5:33 PM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote: I've looked at all the old topics concerning dropping the furling mainsail and found a lot of 'what was Amel thinking'? on the length of the main halyard. I've sailed many, many boats in my life but have never seen a furling main that could not be lowered with the installed halyard. One of the times you would w ant to lower it would be because of a mainsail failure/jam and it's probably going to be in adverse conditions. Trying to find a line, bend it on and then attempt to lower the main these conditions is not a safe prudent solution. Why did they do this? What was the reasoning and rational? Any reasonable answers?
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