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Re: SM heat

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Mike,

If you have electric coil heating on your units, the water flow should not run.

If you have reverse cycle heating and air, the salt water pump should only run when one the compressors is running on one or more of the three units.


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
www.creampuff.us

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 11:00 AM
To: AmelYachtOwners Group
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM heat

Quick question. In the SM circa 1999, water is pumped through the three air handling units in both cooling and heating mode even though the heating mode is resistance. Is there a way, or would it be imprudent, too turn off the water pump when in heat mode. Would it be reasonable to install a switch on the water pump circuit to avoid circulating water when it’s not needed.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240


Re: Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?

Scott SV Tengah
 

As these things go, it's never as simple as you expect.

Someone worked on it and tried to rotate the internal cable, with the toggle eye on the end. I surmise they rotated it multiple revolutions. This was their ill informed way of trying to adjust the cable tension. Now this internal cable's eye has set in a resting position that is 45 degrees off from vertical. That, of course, does not align with the vertical bolt on the steering quadrant. If I try to rotate the eye back, it will rotate but will bounce back to 45 degrees from vertical as soon as I release tension. If I rotate it a full 360 degree revolution, it clicks but keeps the same non-vertical resting orientation.

I emailed ultraflex and they said to just temporarily twist the eye and put the bolt in. Not comforting that we'd have that constant rotational tension as the cable moves in and out. They also suggested if I really wanted to align it, I could "Disconnect the cable from both ends and you should be able to push the shaft in and out while you turn the cable if you want it to move back into place." Not sure exactly what that means.

Any ideas from those who have more experience with this system on how I can get this fixed without damaging the cables? Do I simply twist the eye, install it and a few hundred sea miles will untwist the cable and orient it correctly? 


-Scott

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 9:27 AM Scott SV Tengah via groups.io <Scott.nguyen=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you Olivier! Exactly what I was looking for.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: SM heat

eric freedman
 

Hi Mike,
I believe on Kimberlite the water pump only runs when the compressor is on. I would check it on your boat.
Unfortunately I am not on Kimberlite at the moment.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:00 PM
To: AmelYachtOwners Group
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM heat

Quick question. In the SM circa 1999, water is pumped through the three air handling units in both cooling and heating mode even though the heating mode is resistance. Is there a way, or would it be imprudent, too turn off the water pump when in heat mode. Would it be reasonable to install a switch on the water pump circuit to avoid circulating water when it’s not needed.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240


Re: SM heat

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Mike,

in the SM2000 (starting october 1998), the A/C compact units compressors are cooled with seawater. The pump starts whenever one of the units is turned on cooling mode.
But when these A/C units are turned on heating mode (as you mention, heat comes from a resistance), then the seawater pump does not run, and seawater is not running through the circuit.

Olivier.

On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 10:00:02 PM GMT+1, Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra@...> wrote:


Quick question. In the SM circa 1999, water is pumped through the three air handling units in both cooling and heating mode even though the heating mode is resistance. Is there a way, or would it be imprudent, too turn off the water pump when in heat mode. Would it be reasonable to install a switch on the water pump circuit to avoid circulating water when it’s not needed.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240





SM heat

Mike Ondra
 

Quick question. In the SM circa 1999, water is pumped through the three air handling units in both cooling and heating mode even though the heating mode is resistance. Is there a way, or would it be imprudent, too turn off the water pump when in heat mode. Would it be reasonable to install a switch on the water pump circuit to avoid circulating water when it’s not needed.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Scott SV Tengah
 

Another great option, thanks. This one is made for boats, so theoretically should be sturdy. 

Do you find it more comfortable than the original seat? I never found it to be particularly comfortable even before it broke.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Bill,

You never cease to amaze me - thank you very much.

I will get it copied hopefully for less than the asking price of USD 319.

Great - that’s progress.

Best wishes to you and Judy

Peter

Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 10 Dec 2020, at 13:54, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Peter,

That is the antisiphon plumbing for your Onan. It is different on a 54 than a SM. 
This used part on eBay may work for you, but you need to verify dimensions: 
<image.png>


Or, possibly the Vetus universal plastic ANTI SYPHON DEVICE WITH VALVE, 13 - 32 MM can fit. I like this one because you don't need to worry about corrosion and hoses with internal diameters of 13, 19, 25, or 32mm will fit. Also, the air bleed connection rotates through 360°: 
<image.png>


My only other recommendation is removing it and having a stainless steel welder duplicate it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:44 AM Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730






Re: Gib Track Plugs

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

  We used the Amel plastic plugs but in the Med sun they have a life of no more than 3-4 years

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Kilada , Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: 10 December 2020 14:18
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gib Track Plugs
 
Hi we replaced all our plastic Genoa plugs last year. I had to cut about two millimetre off each one as they were too long. I used a Stanley knife which cut through them easily. Cleaning out the holes was straight forward as the old ones (18 years old) were reasonably crumbly and UV damaged. I coated each one with clear silicon and tapped them in using a wooden dowel and a hammer. Once in it was just a matter of removing any excess silicon.

We are really happy with the job and the attached photo shows plugs in place along with our current COVID project. No the decks aren’t blue that’s masking tape.

Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Finike, Turkey


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On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:54 am, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi we replaced all our plastic Genoa plugs last year. I had to cut about two millimetre off each one as they were too long. I used a Stanley knife which cut through them easily. Cleaning out the holes was straight forward as the old ones (18 years old) were reasonably crumbly and UV damaged. I coated each one with clear silicon and tapped them in using a wooden dowel and a hammer. Once in it was just a matter of removing any excess silicon.

We are really happy with the job and the attached photo shows plugs in place along with our current COVID project. No the decks aren’t blue that’s masking tape.

Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Finike, Turkey

On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 11:54 am, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Amel 54

 

Peter,

That is the antisiphon plumbing for your Onan. It is different on a 54 than a SM. 
This used part on eBay may work for you, but you need to verify dimensions: 
image.png

Or, possibly the Vetus universal plastic ANTI SYPHON DEVICE WITH VALVE, 13 - 32 MM can fit. I like this one because you don't need to worry about corrosion and hoses with internal diameters of 13, 19, 25, or 32mm will fit. Also, the air bleed connection rotates through 360°: 
image.png

My only other recommendation is removing it and having a stainless steel welder duplicate it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:44 AM Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730






Re: Surveyor in Antigua?

 

There is only one surveyor in the world that I recommend and that is Olivier Beaute.

The following surveyor is, I believe, the only surveyor located in Antigua. I know that he has surveyed 2 Amels.

Ken Stuart
MRINA     IAMI (CMI)
Stuart’s Marine Survey and Investigations
Telephone 268 560 8206        cell 268 464 2778
e-mail:      stuartsmarinesurvey@...
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:52 PM Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is there an Antigua FaceBook Page you can inquire on?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a surveyor in Antigua?
We are doing our haul out bottom paint and the usual maintenance next week.
Was thinking that if I need a survey for the next round of finding insurance for next year I might call for a survey proactively.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417
currently in Jolly Harbour Marina Antigua


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I replaced the original Amel seat with a seat from Todd.  It fits well and looks pretty good.  I use the 655341 seat with the 650772 mounting plate both from Todd and reused the original pedestal mounting plate from Amel.

https://www.defender.com/search.html?q=655341&x=0&y=0


--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: A54 Nav station seat replacement

Jamie Wendell
 

Scott, I redrilled the holes in the plate to fit the new chair bottom. It is quite strong, and I carry a spare chair.
Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

luvkante
 

Interested.

Bill, you are our hero.

Martin

AMEL 54 # 149 CHIARA


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

luvkante
 

Interested. 


Thx Bill for this great initiative! You are our hero.

Martin

AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 


Amelians,

I also seek a replacement for this three way junction in the roof of the engine room above the hot water tank on the port side. I have mended it with some exhaust pipe tape several hundred miles ago but does anyone know where ai can get an equivalent replacement. Amel cannot help.



Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Dirk Hooff
 

Hello Bill,
I am also very interested in this PVC manifold. May be, we could use the free valve in the A 54 to regularly flush the system with fresh water.
This would prevent the formation of organisms in the lines for the air conditioning system and the refrigerators.
Such an access also simplifies the flushing of the system with glycerine (antifreeze) at wintertime.

Thank´s for your support, great idea.

Dirk
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SY PÉNÉLOPE   
AMEL 54#96

E-Mail: sypenelope@...
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Am 08.12.2020 um 17:10 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
<image.png>

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
<image.png>

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
<image.png>

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


Re: Gib Track Plugs

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

Aquarius was fitted with new plugs on the Genoa Track, used 5200. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phe2_3JAji0

About 12:58 minutes is where it shows the new plugs.  I am happy with them, they were provided by AMEL and they fit.   Installed only 10 months ago.

Ken Powers
Aquarius Currently on the hard in Thailand.
SM2K262


Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Peter Forbes
 

Bill,

good morning - well here at least!

Carango would be interested in an A54 manifold.

Thank you and best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango A 54 #035 La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 10 Dec 2020, at 06:51, Aktan Temiz <aktantemiz@...> wrote:


"interested"
Thank you Bill.
Aktan

CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>, 8 Ara 2020 Sal, 19:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
<image.png>


There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
<image.png>


I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
<image.png>


The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar



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Aktan TEMiZ
+90 532 296 5599
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Re: Secondary Saltwater Manifold SMs & 54s, and possibly some Santorins, Mangos, and Maramus

Aktan Temiz
 

"interested"
Thank you Bill.
Aktan

CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>, 8 Ara 2020 Sal, 19:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Most SM & 54 owners are aware that sooner or later they will need to replace the Secondary Saltwater Manifold which was made by Amel from copper pipe.
Here is a view of the original SM Secondary Saltwater Manifold:
image.png

There have been some very good after-market stainless steel manifolds produced by various sources including the one below made by Emek Marine for around 1,000 euro. The one below was installed on BeBe SM 387.
image.png

I have taken on the project to find the best replacement for this manifold. Many of you are aware that Amel has switched to a PVC manifold for saltwater distribution and eliminated both the Primary and Secondary Saltwater Manifolds that are common in SMs and 54s. The supplier to Amel is SOFOMARIN, France. I have been working with SOFOMARIN to design a suitable replacement for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold in SMs & 54s. What is shown below is 60cm wide and will fit all of the SM hoses and will work on the 54 by keeping one of the far left outlets closed and capped. All of the hose barb connectors included are an exact match to the original hoses used in SMs and 54s. If you are not in Europe, the 35mm hose barb on the right side is virtually impossible to find.
image.png

The above PVC manifold will cost around 350 euros from SOFOMARIN in France. Before I take this to the next level, I would like to see how much interest we have in this group. If any owner has the original copper Secondary Manifold, I believe you should consider this replacement. 

Please reply with "interested" if you are interested. 

Thanks, 

Bill
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar



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Aktan TEMiZ
+90 532 296 5599
aktantemiz@...

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