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Polar Files for Amel 54
Hey Amel54 owners!
Who can send me a polar file which works well with Amel54 please? Thanks a lot in advance, Alexander SY Oceanica I Amel54#156 DACJ 211 625 220
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
Hi Matt
This was 2 years ago since then they have changed their restrictions in the Caribbean so much for hurricane protection that I have changed to Novamar
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada
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From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 9:00 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding Courtney,
When did this happen.
I’m shopping for insurance for our new Amel, and was steered away from Pantaenius USA by many....
Thanks,
~~~⛵️~~~Matt
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Re: Companionway screen
I am of the mindset, the simpler the better. We made this companionway screen for Cream Puff from scraps we had left from a full cockpit screen enclosure we made. Some places we have visited were quite buggy and having the cockpit screened in allowed us to still enjoy the topside without applying massive amounts of insect repellant. Pics of the full enclosure can be seen here: https://www.creampuff.us/2016/03/off-insect-spray-the-unofficial-perfume-of-the-bahamas/
The companionway screen stays up almost all of the time when we are not sailing. It is constructed of pet-proof screen (available at most hardware stores. The screen is fastened with two snaps at the top corners. We sewed a vinyl border on to stiffen the screen. In the lower hem is a PVC pipe filled with sand to weight it. It is very easy to flip up out of the way when wishing to exit the interior of the boat. Works like a charm. The screen also give us some privacy below when stern in at a marina.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu
Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
On my Maramu, I had my staysail (trinquette avec enrouleur sur étai fixe) installed by Secteur Blanc in La Rochelle. The owner/manager has been working for and under Henri Amel for twenty years or more. They know what they are doing.
Charles SV Inuit
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
Courtney,
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When did this happen. I’m shopping for insurance for our new Amel, and was steered away from Pantaenius USA by many.... Thanks, ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
Beaute Olivier
Hello Jeroen, there is not any good system to prevent the damages of a lightning strike. Even if the lightning strikes 100 m away form your vessel, the electronics could all be damaged through the electromagnetic field generated. This is including alternators, battery chargers, washing machines, etc... The purpose of the bonding system installed in the AMEL boats is to fight galvanic corrosion and/or detect a power leak able to create electrolytic corrosion. The main reason is that the wires used in this circuit are too small to stand any high power strike. However there may be a way to "comply" with the insurers wish, and in order to show that you made the best you could to "drive" the lightning power to water. You should be be able to show your insurers (or the claim surveyor they commit) that you had such an equipment on board. The equipment is a pair of copper cables, or stainless steel cables (standing rigging) 3m long each, with the same diameter as your top shrouds (12mm) or bigger, that you attach to the top shrouds on both sides thanks to a stainless steel cable clip when a thunderstorm comes or when you leave your vessel unattended in a marina (especially in the intertropical belt/convergence zone). In order not to damage your hull, you will have these cables installed in rubber sleeves ( such as a water hose). Again, this will definitely not protect the vessel against lightning strikes and consequences, but you'll be able to show something to your insurers. Olivier
On Monday, October 7, 2019, 02:24:21 PM GMT+2, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:
The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike. ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
When I first bought Trippin we had a near lightning strike not direct but close enough other boats in the Marina were affected Pantaenius US was my carrier and covered Most of the costs upward of $17,000 and were very easy to work with.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 8:24 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.
~~~⛵️~~~Matt
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Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu
amelforme
Hi Eric and I can confirm that the Amel folks in Martinique are correct and Amel never delivered a SM 53 with a staysail installed by the yard. They almost did once but decided at the last moment not to. After delivery, the boat was taken to a local rigger who installed a staysail. I was peripherally familiar with this sequence of events. As you know, Jacques Carteau who was Amel’s technical manager/chief engineer-designer as well as a reluctant CEO on two separate occasions. His job was to take Captain Amel’s thoughts and do the engineering and then work with the production manager to be sure the boats were built properly. Mr. Carteau encouraged my curiosity about all things Amel and spent quite some time with me over the years to answer all my questions so I could better inform my Amel customers about all the special and unique features which made Amel boats so desirable for serious offshore adventuring. Mr. Carteau once explained why he would not install a staysail on a Super Maramu. When I gently but insistently told him that a staysail would enhance the boat both from a performance as well as a safety standpoint, he actually drew me a drawing showing what he said was the only correct way to install a staysail but urged me not to do so. I have written about this in these spaces before and perhaps someone could dig my staysail install instructions out of the archives. If not, I could do it once again if anyone is interested. Most of the Amel staysail installs I have seen were done incorrectly and apply serious loads into components that were never designed for such loading, according to what Mr. Carteau showed and told me.
Have Fun With Your Amel, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C. THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:20 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Staysail on a Super Maramu
Hi Amelians, I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail. I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured. If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:
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Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding
is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .
Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. We are owner of Fidelis A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018. We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience. Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations, yet.. On the policy( september 2019) is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage ! The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage by lighting strike ? Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ? comment welcome. Jeroen Jeltes sv Fidelis A54
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Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada
luvkante
.... and not only that.....
Martin AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA
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Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel
Eamonn Washington
I don’t know about the 54, but on the Super Maramu I oil the chain (between the drive unit and the wheel) every 6 months or so, and ensure that the rods attached to the quadrant are well greased (so they can slide into the tube).
Eamonn Washington Travel Bug Super Maramu #151 Currently in Denia, Spain.
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Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu
Gerald Bassin
Hi Eric
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If you are interested in having one installed , pls contact me at huey at hispeed.ch, I may be able to help. Brgrds Gerald Bassin Jetlag SM 113
On 7 Oct 2019, at 04:20, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Rob Hughes
Hey Alan give me a call 702 806 9224 rob Sv Luna
we meet you guys in bimini a few months back.
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Staysail on a Super Maramu
eric freedman
Hi Amelians, I have been speaking with Amel Martinique. They say they never delivered a Super Maramu with a Staysail. I believe a number of you have had them installed when the boat was manufactured. If you have a factory (LA Rochelle) installed please contact me. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: Winter cockpit room on 54
Nick,
Another +1 in favour of the winter tent. Ours is the original version which came to us when we bought Stella. We had not used it before this year. We fitted it in April for a transit from Greece to Scotland. It was very much appreciated. No sheeting problems caused for us at any point of sail. The one problem area is that the original design leaks rainwater around the mizzenmast. We’ll be sailing in higher latitudes again next year so have commissioned a modification to address that problem. If you decide to have one designed, pay close attention to the mizzenmast penetration. Dean SY Stella A54-154
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Re: Companionway screen
Stephen Davis
Thanks Mark. Steve Aloha SM 72
On Oct 6, 2019, at 07:40, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:
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SM Helm seat back
On SM153, we want to remove the plastic part that holds the table to the helm seat. See attached picture. Has anyone ever done this? It looks like it might be epoxied but thought I would ask before I start struggling with it.
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Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
I'm shocked, amel has abandoned its high tech floating rod. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 07 October 2019 at 06:32 Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
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Re: Winter cockpit room on 54
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Nick, we have a full cockpit enclosure with side and back curtains that roll up. Would be without it. We get the use of the full cockpit in any weather. No problem at sea. A must have in my opinion. If you look around you will see a lot of SM with these and some with better features than others so look around before you do it Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 06 October 2019 at 23:09 "ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io" <ngtnewington@...> wrote:
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