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Re: Cracks on bow sprit

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Jarek,
Will defer to Olivier Beaute, but I think that's a common and not serious problem with Amels. I've got it and I just fair it out every few years to look nice. Can't give you any details of structure that causes it, but  believe it's purely cosmetic and not a structural issue. Kind of like the old "Catalina Smile".
Cheers

Cracks on bow sprit

Jarek Zemlo
 

Hello to all,

I am doing a survey on Amel SM and found 2 cracks on the bow which looks serious. Like to ask if somebody had experience similar situation and if this is something to worry about or just easy repair issue? See attached picture.

Best regards
--
Jarek Zemlo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Efector Anchor Chain Counter Sensor

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hallo 
I have the same one I get it 2 years ago and it works well. 

HEINZ Sm 2000, 292

Am 09.11.2019 um 03:09 schrieb Keith Tice <amel@...>:

My chain counter recently stopped counting.
Before it stopped it was counting when we weren't looking and not counting when the anchor was moving.  
I found that the Efector IB5076 induction sensor is no longer produced, but that the IB5096 is available.
The only difference in the data sheet is that the signal NPN for IB5076 is PNP for IB5096. https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5076 
https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5096   
Should this be a plug compatible replacement?  
I mean, one is on a lot and turns off and the other is off a lot and turns on. It is pulsing and the counter should just be counting pulses.  
What is the opinion here?
Keith
Bikini SM 282

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Efector Anchor Chain Counter Sensor

Keith Tice
 

My chain counter recently stopped counting.
Before it stopped it was counting when we weren't looking and not counting when the anchor was moving.  
I found that the Efector IB5076 induction sensor is no longer produced, but that the IB5096 is available.
The only difference in the data sheet is that the signal NPN for IB5076 is PNP for IB5096. https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5076 
https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5096   
Should this be a plug compatible replacement?  
I mean, one is on a lot and turns off and the other is off a lot and turns on. It is pulsing and the counter should just be counting pulses.  
What is the opinion here?
Keith
Bikini SM 282

Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

James,
You may already know but  the inverter on your boat was after market Xantrex 110 volt with its own galley receptacles.  It was wired differently from units installed by Amel so be cautious at the panel.

Ben Driver
SM347
La Bella Vita (former)

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:32 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


James,

I don't think that you want to bypass the generator/shore power switch for your 220 panel, certainly not for the entire panel.

Like the 54, the SM 220 main panel has 2 buses. breakers attach to the buses. The 54 main panel is similar, but different than the SM main panel. The SM buses are independent and wired to the main 220 block inside the panel. I believe what you can do is leave the generator/shore power switch in place and wire one Main Panel bus to the generator/shore power feed, which is after the generator/shore power switch in the engine room, and wire the other bus to the output of the inverter. The difficulty will probably be moving some breakers from one bus to another to get the desired results. With 5000 watts, you will probably want washer, microwave, outlets, possibly 1 AC and possibly something else on one side. I think that you'll have to move a minimum of 2+2 breakers. You might want to make a new plexiglass face, but, at the least, you will need to relabel some breakers. I think it may also be possible to cut a bus in half, but not sure. Some 54's and 55's were made with split buses where some 220 panel breakers were automatically powered by the inverter.

I may know more in a few days. If so will come back to you.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:16 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
got it.  thanks.
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

On the 230/50 panel. Port side is for items supplied by the quay/mains or generator. The starbord side is wired to the inverter. The chargers/ dive compressor,  AC, washer etc is still on the port side. 
Porter
Ibis A54-152 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Thanks Porter.  What do you mean by “one side” for each one?  
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)


Desperate plea for an alternator/charging problem - Amel Euros 41, 1976, MD21a engine

Andrew Eaves
 

Hello all,

PLEASE HELP AND TAKE PITY :)

After 38 knots in the bay last night I am 'keen as hell' to get out of here! Apparently in 4 days next week, mother nature is going to give us a re-run for a couple of days, which may at least save us the hassle of handwashing our clothes if we put them in a large bucket before hand!

So something is amiss with our charging system, as such the windlass can't retrieve the anchor and neither can the mrs by hand. Batteries are shot and I have limited ah till I replace. I suspect regulator diode issue but please read and chip in with thoughts/experiences.

It's an Amel Euros 41, 1976, MD21a engine.
It had two alternators when I purchased the boat a couple of months ago, but pictures show only one now as of today. I've started stripping dodgy batteries and the discovered dodgy alternator to simplify the matter.
The picture shows what I believe is the OEM design, a single alternator connected to the starter.
The upper alternator was faulty, (bracket showing) tested at 2 places as it happens. I 'think' this has an external regulator and no idea what the relay would be for given that also shown in the pictures.

I actually don't need at this stage the upper broken 2nd alternator repaired and in the situation. With solar/wind and shore power when connected, it should have enough charge, providing I don't need to crank the engine diagnosing other issues, but that's another day. Being in the Greek islands for now, we are never going to be far from land, if this changes, I'll readdress moving forward.

So thoughts;

- Is there a way to confirm the diode block, if I am correct pointing at that is faulty? 
- If found to be the problem are there local fixes/alternatives suitable for a wiring monkey at best as my surname is not Faraday? I understand the Volvo part which is sealed is expensive and on an island in Greece, probably not quick to get other than priority pigeon from Athens.
- If I am off course here, what else can I consider?
- The Amel switch also shown in the pictures is due for being replaced, but I don't want to change too much too soon unless I just pay for someone to do it all. It's not just purely $$ but knowledge too. This is part of the reason for purchasing this ark. Does anyone have schematics for this switch so I can understand the terminals please?
- The other picture showing a wire that clearly looks like it should be connected to the starter, wasn't previously. The connection had to be widened to get on the terminal, and when I did that, it sounds I think a low-pressure alarm, but it looks aftermarket. Either way, having this on or not made no difference to V or A at the battery.

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Andrew

Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

 

James,

I don't think that you want to bypass the generator/shore power switch for your 220 panel, certainly not for the entire panel.

Like the 54, the SM 220 main panel has 2 buses. breakers attach to the buses. The 54 main panel is similar, but different than the SM main panel. The SM buses are independent and wired to the main 220 block inside the panel. I believe what you can do is leave the generator/shore power switch in place and wire one Main Panel bus to the generator/shore power feed, which is after the generator/shore power switch in the engine room, and wire the other bus to the output of the inverter. The difficulty will probably be moving some breakers from one bus to another to get the desired results. With 5000 watts, you will probably want washer, microwave, outlets, possibly 1 AC and possibly something else on one side. I think that you'll have to move a minimum of 2+2 breakers. You might want to make a new plexiglass face, but, at the least, you will need to relabel some breakers. I think it may also be possible to cut a bus in half, but not sure. Some 54's and 55's were made with split buses where some 220 panel breakers were automatically powered by the inverter.

I may know more in a few days. If so will come back to you.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:16 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
got it.  thanks.
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

On the 230/50 panel. Port side is for items supplied by the quay/mains or generator. The starbord side is wired to the inverter. The chargers/ dive compressor,  AC, washer etc is still on the port side. 
Porter
Ibis A54-152 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Thanks Porter.  What do you mean by “one side” for each one?  
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)


Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

James Cromie
 

got it.  thanks.
-James

On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

On the 230/50 panel. Port side is for items supplied by the quay/mains or generator. The starbord side is wired to the inverter. The chargers/ dive compressor,  AC, washer etc is still on the port side. 
Porter
Ibis A54-152 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Thanks Porter.  What do you mean by “one side” for each one?  
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)


Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

Porter McRoberts
 

On the 230/50 panel. Port side is for items supplied by the quay/mains or generator. The starbord side is wired to the inverter. The chargers/ dive compressor,  AC, washer etc is still on the port side. 
Porter
Ibis A54-152 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Thanks Porter.  What do you mean by “one side” for each one?  
-James
On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)

Re: LG solar panels shipping to Grenada

Matt Salatino
 

I’ve used Marine Warehouse to ship an Aircon unit to Trinidad. I bought it from them, and was able to negotiate a price on the brand and model I wanted. They matched the lowest price I could find online, and of course, added their shipping fees.
I felt like I was treated fairly. They handled all import and customs and I just picked it up from their office.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:40 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

When all else fails, try, 
Marine Warehouse
2330 NW 102ND AVE, SUITE 1 | DORAL, FL 33172 | Ph. (305) 635-0776 | Fax. (305) 436-3757
Email. usa@...
http://www.marinewarehouse.net
--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m planning on joining the Lithium revolution but first need to find a source to get LG solar panels in Grenada, but this seems to be elusive. Would anyone know of a US dealer which can ship? Specifically, I need 3 x LG325N1K-V5.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

James Cromie
 

Thanks Porter.  What do you mean by “one side” for each one?  
-James

On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)

Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

Porter McRoberts
 

James. I’ve done this.its a bit of a pain but I rewired  the panel.  One side for inverter power, the other side for shore/generator power. Keeps it logical and simple with out the possibility of recurrent loops. 

Porter. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:36 AM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)

Re: LG solar panels shipping to Grenada

 

When all else fails, try, 
Marine Warehouse
2330 NW 102ND AVE, SUITE 1 | DORAL, FL 33172 | Ph. (305) 635-0776 | Fax. (305) 436-3757
Email. usa@...
http://www.marinewarehouse.net
--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m planning on joining the Lithium revolution but first need to find a source to get LG solar panels in Grenada, but this seems to be elusive. Would anyone know of a US dealer which can ship? Specifically, I need 3 x LG325N1K-V5.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

LG solar panels shipping to Grenada

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I’m planning on joining the Lithium revolution but first need to find a source to get LG solar panels in Grenada, but this seems to be elusive. Would anyone know of a US dealer which can ship? Specifically, I need 3 x LG325N1K-V5.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Still love Greece

ngtnewington Newington
 

Amelia anchored southern Peloponnesus AML 54-019

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

smiles bernard
 

Hi Bill 

The SM rig looks really interesting 

I  think there is perhaps a couple of difference btwn Maramu and Super M in this instance though

My Maramu might be typical of others of the same vintage in that it does not have the original furler with the 3 track luff with the ability to use a mouse to release the ballooner. As such, i'll never fly the ballooner and genoa on the same furler as they cant be taken up / down independently. So to me the ballooner has only been used as a cruising chute - flown solo in light airs & without the genoa - ie not very often ! 

Also my Maramu does not have powered cockpit sheet winches - I've been really happy with the slightly smaller cut genoa as it makes winch work easier and better sail shape upwind but again some of the SM I have seem have nice  (aftermarket?) staysails which perhaps help in this department too


All the best
Miles





Victron Quattro charger/inverter installation

James Cromie
 

Hello Super Maramu or A-54 owners - 
(and particularly Scott Tengah) 

I am going to install a Victron 24V 5000W Quattro Charger/Inverter in my Super Maramu.  
As this has an internal automatic transfer switch, I am trying to figure out how to wire this unit to bypass the original Amel transfer switch.  

In any case, I would greatly appreciate any advice / input on how others have installed this unit in their Amel.  Any photos or schematics would be extremely helpful.  

Many Thanks,
James
SV Soteria
SM2K 347
Cartagena, Club Nautico (in the sweltering heat and humidity)

Re: ZF Hurth Transmission

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Gary,

 Thanks for tip. I might carry one as a spare.
 You guys are so lucky in the States--a mere $5 ( for a product that costs a few cents ).  Amazon in the UK want £36.58 ( oh, plus postage, of course ). How do they stay in business ?
 I will hunt around.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Still in the EU ( but watch this space... )


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Gary Wells <gary@...>
Sent: 05 November 2019 13:14
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ZF Hurth Transmission
 
Arthur, I had the same leak and if it is coming from where there shifter shaft enters the transmission it is an easy fix as well.

I drained the fluid from the bottom drain plug then undid the one bolt that holds the shift lever in place. 
It comes off easily and there is absmall lip seal that can be popped out.
The measurement are on the seal and I ordered a couple of replacement items from a Honda motorcycle shop :) 

That replacement stopped the leak and has held for four years now.

The info I have is that the seal is 20mm ID, 26mm OD by 4mm thickness. The Honda part number is 91262-GBF-831

I keep those white oul-absorbent cloth "diapers" spread out under the engine and transmission (and in the genset pan) so I can quickly see if any oil is getting loose.

Best of.luck!!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Cape Lookout

Re: Change from electric to gas cooking?

David Crisp
 

Thanks Ann-Sofie,
A helpful article.  When I first read it I had not realised the oven you bought was electric. I think I shall keep the electric oven for now but change over to induction plates for the efficiency.

David

Re: Boat Yard at US East Coast with Experience to Apply COPPERCOAT?

Matt Salatino
 

I believe the application method is not relevant to number of hulls, or boat manufacturer, as long as the yard is familiar with fiberglass/gelcoat hulls....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Nov 5, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...> wrote:

Thank you Matt,

I spoke to Jim Edwards at the Annapolis sailboat show. He pointed us to Cape Canaveral Ship Yard Scorpion aka "Port Canaveral Marine" http://www.portcanaveralmarine.com/marine-services/yacht-services/
But it seems they do mostly Catamarans, had not done mono hulls or even an Amel.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417