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Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54
ngtnewington Newington
Hi Bill, Yes that is the one. It must have been a typo to sign off 55 sorry.
So I have dissembled the gear box. The shaft that runs vertically through the gearbox and connects to the sail foil has the two lip seals top and bottom that I was trying to change. That shaft would not pull out. It must be corroded in or be a very tight fit.
So I took it to a machine shop. It is aluminium and slightly corroded on place. Popped out with the press. I am glad that I did not try beating it. There was no way that was coming out without the press. There had been water ingress and bearings are rough, the seals gone, however the worm gear looks okay. This is a project that I have been putting off too long, but have the seals and bearing. So easy to re-assemble. Now better do the outhall whilst I am at it. Nick S/Y Amelia AML 54-019
On 1 Sep 2020, at 21:38, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Nick,
You had me fooled. Your original post stated Amel 55, and the 55 furling assembly does not have a worm!
I believe that your Amel 54 #19 has the earlier version of the mainsail furling motor and gearbox, similar to the last SMs. I am having difficulty understanding why you would try to remove the worm gear before disassembling the gearbox and removing the spur gear. The spur gear will hold the worm gear in place. Maybe I am not understanding? Anyway, I will post some things here that may or may not help.
Here is a disassembled gearbox similar to yours. You can see the worm gear and understand how the spur holds it in place. Also maybe this helps:
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Amel Owners Yacht School
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Hi guys, I am leaving it overnight soaking in diesel. I tried a puller earlier to push out the shaft but nada. Tomorrow I will apply heat and the puller. If that fails I guess it will need a press. I just wonder why it is not a nice snug fit, not as if it is a ball of rust. Maybe if when it finally yields it does not go back in with a gentle tap, I will have it machines down a thou.....so next timeI can pull it easy as kiss my hand. Nick Slightly fed up with a day of poor progress. Amelia Leros
AML 54-019
Nick,
Assuming that the worm gear and the shaft are both metal... I would try heating the component ( I assume this is the worm gear) with the hole to expand it while cooling the other part (the shaft) using ice or whatever you have. Some gentle tapping might be ok.
Best of luck,
James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
-----Original Message-----
From: ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington= aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 8:52 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54
I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019
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Re: Amel 54 2008 Hull 102 for sale in South France
Thank you Bryce - I imagined the link was that he was similarly verbose! :) Best wishes, Tony
On 2 Sep 2020, at 12:02, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:
Thought is was a long shot, but he was a keen sailor as well. All the best with the new plans.
Cheers
Bryce
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 5:54 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
No - sorry, Bryce.
Tony
On 2 Sep 2020, at 11:48, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
I know off topic but just wondering if you would be the same Tony Wells that worked with WB many years ago?
Regards,
Bryce Procter
SV Seamaster II
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:56 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Well, Peter, you were almost correct....it didn’t quite take one day but just a few days to agree the sale of Balthazar!
There was a lot of interest from wonderful folk around the world and I was about to start arranging viewings in Toulon.
Then one couple took the plunge and committed to buying Balthazar unseen, subject to survey of course and wired a deposit. They won’t be disappointed and it’s an absolute pleasure working with them to agree a handover.
Bill Rouse might blush, but there is naturally a ‘circle of trust’ in that the new owners and I are both clients of his. Thank you Bill for ‘oiling the wheels’ - well, Corrosion X’ing them in your case :)
David Crisp (A54 Wilna Grace) deserves a special note of thanks too, for introducing me to Antoine Hutter of Nautiplus Yacht Services, here in Toulon (+33 6 12 66 58 20) - he is hugely experienced in Amel and has been superb at welcoming us to France and rapidly making survey lift out and winter arrangements - he even tracked us on AIS on passage from Corsica, phoned me as we entered the harbour and took our lines for us! Wow. (Side note - I haven’t had an invoice yet....!).
All interested buyers of Balthazar have been advised by me personally of the sale - I was sorry to disappoint them on this occasion and wish them all well in their search for a fabulous 54. Whilst COVID has created challenges in all walks of life, it’s evident that sailors everywhere - and none more so than the “famille Amel” - have a resilient and especially ingenious and pragmatic DNA!
Enough effusive ‘gushing’ from me. Thanks to All on the forum and Facebook for the good wishes and I look forward to introducing Balthazar’s new owners when the sale closes.
Tony Wells Balthazar A54 #102 (2008) Toulon, S France
On 24 Aug 2020, at 18:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
Tony,
So sorry you are leaving us - that is a superb deal at €400k.
That will sell in a day if anyone has any sense.
Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford 07836 209730 On 24 Aug 2020, at 16:35, tony wells via groups.io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Amel expert and principal of Yacht School, Bill Rouse, was onboard in May 2019 and commented “Balthazar’s condition is in the top 10% of Amel 54’s that I have seen”.
We have only owned Balthazar since October 2018 and hugely appreciate her extraordinary qualities. However our plans have changed and we’re now offering her for sale in impeccable condition, at an attractive price, initially to the Amel community. Significantly discounted price for private sale €400k (vat paid in France from new, UK flagged now). This will likely be increased to circa €440k if offered via broker.
Balthazar was originally specified with the Comfort Plus Pack in addition to the Opacmare hydraulic passerelle & Dessalator 24/240v 100 litre per hour water maker.
Lightly used in the Med, renowned Amel surveyor, Olivier Beaute, concludes his survey of October 2018, stating “a good boat”. Since then we have invested in comfort, safety & preventative maintenance improvements, listed in the attached document and including a full Nav technology B&G upgrade & additional autopilot in July 2020.
There’s a spec sheet attached in the subgroup post at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and please contact me by email tony.wells@... for more information including photos which I will send to you via Whatsapp
Thanks
Tony Wells
Amel 54 - 102 (2008)
Balthazar
Cruising Corsica, heading north to South France
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Re: Amel 54 2008 Hull 102 for sale in South France
Thought is was a long shot, but he was a keen sailor as well. All the best with the new plans.
Cheers
Bryce
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 5:54 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
No - sorry, Bryce.
Tony
On 2 Sep 2020, at 11:48, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
I know off topic but just wondering if you would be the same Tony Wells that worked with WB many years ago?
Regards,
Bryce Procter
SV Seamaster II
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:56 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Well, Peter, you were almost correct....it didn’t quite take one day but just a few days to agree the sale of Balthazar!
There was a lot of interest from wonderful folk around the world and I was about to start arranging viewings in Toulon.
Then one couple took the plunge and committed to buying Balthazar unseen, subject to survey of course and wired a deposit. They won’t be disappointed and it’s an absolute pleasure working with them to agree a handover.
Bill Rouse might blush, but there is naturally a ‘circle of trust’ in that the new owners and I are both clients of his. Thank you Bill for ‘oiling the wheels’ - well, Corrosion X’ing them in your case :)
David Crisp (A54 Wilna Grace) deserves a special note of thanks too, for introducing me to Antoine Hutter of Nautiplus Yacht Services, here in Toulon (+33 6 12 66 58 20) - he is hugely experienced in Amel and has been superb at welcoming us to France and rapidly making survey lift out and winter arrangements - he even tracked us on AIS on passage from Corsica, phoned me as we entered the harbour and took our lines for us! Wow. (Side note - I haven’t had an invoice yet....!).
All interested buyers of Balthazar have been advised by me personally of the sale - I was sorry to disappoint them on this occasion and wish them all well in their search for a fabulous 54. Whilst COVID has created challenges in all walks of life, it’s evident that sailors everywhere - and none more so than the “famille Amel” - have a resilient and especially ingenious and pragmatic DNA!
Enough effusive ‘gushing’ from me. Thanks to All on the forum and Facebook for the good wishes and I look forward to introducing Balthazar’s new owners when the sale closes.
Tony Wells Balthazar A54 #102 (2008) Toulon, S France
On 24 Aug 2020, at 18:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
Tony,
So sorry you are leaving us - that is a superb deal at €400k.
That will sell in a day if anyone has any sense.
Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford 07836 209730 On 24 Aug 2020, at 16:35, tony wells via groups.io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Amel expert and principal of Yacht School, Bill Rouse, was onboard in May 2019 and commented “Balthazar’s condition is in the top 10% of Amel 54’s that I have seen”.
We have only owned Balthazar since October 2018 and hugely appreciate her extraordinary qualities. However our plans have changed and we’re now offering her for sale in impeccable condition, at an attractive price, initially to the Amel community. Significantly discounted price for private sale €400k (vat paid in France from new, UK flagged now). This will likely be increased to circa €440k if offered via broker.
Balthazar was originally specified with the Comfort Plus Pack in addition to the Opacmare hydraulic passerelle & Dessalator 24/240v 100 litre per hour water maker.
Lightly used in the Med, renowned Amel surveyor, Olivier Beaute, concludes his survey of October 2018, stating “a good boat”. Since then we have invested in comfort, safety & preventative maintenance improvements, listed in the attached document and including a full Nav technology B&G upgrade & additional autopilot in July 2020.
There’s a spec sheet attached in the subgroup post at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and please contact me by email tony.wells@... for more information including photos which I will send to you via Whatsapp
Thanks
Tony Wells
Amel 54 - 102 (2008)
Balthazar
Cruising Corsica, heading north to South France
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Re: Amel 54 2008 Hull 102 for sale in South France
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On 2 Sep 2020, at 11:48, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
I know off topic but just wondering if you would be the same Tony Wells that worked with WB many years ago?
Regards,
Bryce Procter
SV Seamaster II
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:56 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Well, Peter, you were almost correct....it didn’t quite take one day but just a few days to agree the sale of Balthazar!
There was a lot of interest from wonderful folk around the world and I was about to start arranging viewings in Toulon.
Then one couple took the plunge and committed to buying Balthazar unseen, subject to survey of course and wired a deposit. They won’t be disappointed and it’s an absolute pleasure working with them to agree a handover.
Bill Rouse might blush, but there is naturally a ‘circle of trust’ in that the new owners and I are both clients of his. Thank you Bill for ‘oiling the wheels’ - well, Corrosion X’ing them in your case :)
David Crisp (A54 Wilna Grace) deserves a special note of thanks too, for introducing me to Antoine Hutter of Nautiplus Yacht Services, here in Toulon (+33 6 12 66 58 20) - he is hugely experienced in Amel and has been superb at welcoming us to France and rapidly making survey lift out and winter arrangements - he even tracked us on AIS on passage from Corsica, phoned me as we entered the harbour and took our lines for us! Wow. (Side note - I haven’t had an invoice yet....!).
All interested buyers of Balthazar have been advised by me personally of the sale - I was sorry to disappoint them on this occasion and wish them all well in their search for a fabulous 54. Whilst COVID has created challenges in all walks of life, it’s evident that sailors everywhere - and none more so than the “famille Amel” - have a resilient and especially ingenious and pragmatic DNA!
Enough effusive ‘gushing’ from me. Thanks to All on the forum and Facebook for the good wishes and I look forward to introducing Balthazar’s new owners when the sale closes.
Tony Wells Balthazar A54 #102 (2008) Toulon, S France
On 24 Aug 2020, at 18:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
Tony,
So sorry you are leaving us - that is a superb deal at €400k.
That will sell in a day if anyone has any sense.
Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford 07836 209730 On 24 Aug 2020, at 16:35, tony wells via groups.io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Amel expert and principal of Yacht School, Bill Rouse, was onboard in May 2019 and commented “Balthazar’s condition is in the top 10% of Amel 54’s that I have seen”.
We have only owned Balthazar since October 2018 and hugely appreciate her extraordinary qualities. However our plans have changed and we’re now offering her for sale in impeccable condition, at an attractive price, initially to the Amel community. Significantly discounted price for private sale €400k (vat paid in France from new, UK flagged now). This will likely be increased to circa €440k if offered via broker.
Balthazar was originally specified with the Comfort Plus Pack in addition to the Opacmare hydraulic passerelle & Dessalator 24/240v 100 litre per hour water maker.
Lightly used in the Med, renowned Amel surveyor, Olivier Beaute, concludes his survey of October 2018, stating “a good boat”. Since then we have invested in comfort, safety & preventative maintenance improvements, listed in the attached document and including a full Nav technology B&G upgrade & additional autopilot in July 2020.
There’s a spec sheet attached in the subgroup post at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and please contact me by email tony.wells@... for more information including photos which I will send to you via Whatsapp
Thanks
Tony Wells
Amel 54 - 102 (2008)
Balthazar
Cruising Corsica, heading north to South France
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Re: Amel 54 2008 Hull 102 for sale in South France
Hi Tony,
I know off topic but just wondering if you would be the same Tony Wells that worked with WB many years ago?
Regards,
Bryce Procter
SV Seamaster II
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:56 PM +0800, "tony wells via groups.io" <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Well, Peter, you were almost correct....it didn’t quite take one day but just a few days to agree the sale of Balthazar!
There was a lot of interest from wonderful folk around the world and I was about to start arranging viewings in Toulon.
Then one couple took the plunge and committed to buying Balthazar unseen, subject to survey of course and wired a deposit. They won’t be disappointed and it’s an absolute pleasure working with them to agree a handover.
Bill Rouse might blush, but there is naturally a ‘circle of trust’ in that the new owners and I are both clients of his. Thank you Bill for ‘oiling the wheels’ - well, Corrosion X’ing them in your case :)
David Crisp (A54 Wilna Grace) deserves a special note of thanks too, for introducing me to Antoine Hutter of Nautiplus Yacht Services, here in Toulon (+33 6 12 66 58 20) - he is hugely experienced in Amel and has been superb at welcoming us to France and rapidly making survey lift out and winter arrangements - he even tracked us on AIS on passage from Corsica, phoned me as we entered the harbour and took our lines for us! Wow. (Side note - I haven’t had an invoice yet....!).
All interested buyers of Balthazar have been advised by me personally of the sale - I was sorry to disappoint them on this occasion and wish them all well in their search for a fabulous 54. Whilst COVID has created challenges in all walks of life, it’s evident that sailors everywhere - and none more so than the “famille Amel” - have a resilient and especially ingenious and pragmatic DNA!
Enough effusive ‘gushing’ from me. Thanks to All on the forum and Facebook for the good wishes and I look forward to introducing Balthazar’s new owners when the sale closes.
Tony Wells Balthazar A54 #102 (2008) Toulon, S France
On 24 Aug 2020, at 18:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
Tony,
So sorry you are leaving us - that is a superb deal at €400k.
That will sell in a day if anyone has any sense.
Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford 07836 209730 On 24 Aug 2020, at 16:35, tony wells via groups.io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Amel expert and principal of Yacht School, Bill Rouse, was onboard in May 2019 and commented “Balthazar’s condition is in the top 10% of Amel 54’s that I have seen”.
We have only owned Balthazar since October 2018 and hugely appreciate her extraordinary qualities. However our plans have changed and we’re now offering her for sale in impeccable condition, at an attractive price, initially to the Amel community. Significantly discounted price for private sale €400k (vat paid in France from new, UK flagged now). This will likely be increased to circa €440k if offered via broker.
Balthazar was originally specified with the Comfort Plus Pack in addition to the Opacmare hydraulic passerelle & Dessalator 24/240v 100 litre per hour water maker.
Lightly used in the Med, renowned Amel surveyor, Olivier Beaute, concludes his survey of October 2018, stating “a good boat”. Since then we have invested in comfort, safety & preventative maintenance improvements, listed in the attached document and including a full Nav technology B&G upgrade & additional autopilot in July 2020.
There’s a spec sheet attached in the subgroup post at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and please contact me by email tony.wells@... for more information including photos which I will send to you via Whatsapp
Thanks
Tony Wells
Amel 54 - 102 (2008)
Balthazar
Cruising Corsica, heading north to South France
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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks Scott, good info. I’m amazed at all the positive feedback I’ve been getting on this comparatively trivial issue! Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: 01 September 2020 22:45
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor chain counter We just had this problem. It was a rusted magnet.
It's very easy to open up the windlass and see the magnet on the gypsy. On A54 #69, we have two windlasses, so I just took the gypsy from the port windlass and put it on starboard. There's no counter on port anyways and we barely use it, so the gypsy looked nearly new.
By doing that, you could probably get quite a few more years of life and it will isolate whether the problem is the magnet or the sensor. If you look at the AutoAnchor manual, it shows you how to get into diagnostic mode to determine whether the sensors are getting power. That may help you figure out what's wrong. I suppose there could be wiring issues, but for us, it was easily remedied by swapping gypsies and hence, magnets. Good time to grease up the windlass, too.
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Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Amel 54 2008 Hull 102 for sale in South France
Well, Peter, you were almost correct....it didn’t quite take one day but just a few days to agree the sale of Balthazar!
There was a lot of interest from wonderful folk around the world and I was about to start arranging viewings in Toulon.
Then one couple took the plunge and committed to buying Balthazar unseen, subject to survey of course and wired a deposit. They won’t be disappointed and it’s an absolute pleasure working with them to agree a handover.
Bill Rouse might blush, but there is naturally a ‘circle of trust’ in that the new owners and I are both clients of his. Thank you Bill for ‘oiling the wheels’ - well, Corrosion X’ing them in your case :)
David Crisp (A54 Wilna Grace) deserves a special note of thanks too, for introducing me to Antoine Hutter of Nautiplus Yacht Services, here in Toulon (+33 6 12 66 58 20) - he is hugely experienced in Amel and has been superb at welcoming us to France and rapidly making survey lift out and winter arrangements - he even tracked us on AIS on passage from Corsica, phoned me as we entered the harbour and took our lines for us! Wow. (Side note - I haven’t had an invoice yet....!).
All interested buyers of Balthazar have been advised by me personally of the sale - I was sorry to disappoint them on this occasion and wish them all well in their search for a fabulous 54. Whilst COVID has created challenges in all walks of life, it’s evident that sailors everywhere - and none more so than the “famille Amel” - have a resilient and especially ingenious and pragmatic DNA!
Enough effusive ‘gushing’ from me. Thanks to All on the forum and Facebook for the good wishes and I look forward to introducing Balthazar’s new owners when the sale closes.
Tony Wells Balthazar A54 #102 (2008) Toulon, S France
On 24 Aug 2020, at 18:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
Tony,
So sorry you are leaving us - that is a superb deal at €400k.
That will sell in a day if anyone has any sense.
Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford 07836 209730 On 24 Aug 2020, at 16:35, tony wells via groups.io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
Amel expert and principal of Yacht School, Bill Rouse, was onboard in May 2019 and commented “Balthazar’s condition is in the top 10% of Amel 54’s that I have seen”.
We have only owned Balthazar since October 2018 and hugely appreciate her extraordinary qualities. However our plans have changed and we’re now offering her for sale in impeccable condition, at an attractive price, initially to the Amel community. Significantly discounted price for private sale €400k (vat paid in France from new, UK flagged now). This will likely be increased to circa €440k if offered via broker.
Balthazar was originally specified with the Comfort Plus Pack in addition to the Opacmare hydraulic passerelle & Dessalator 24/240v 100 litre per hour water maker.
Lightly used in the Med, renowned Amel surveyor, Olivier Beaute, concludes his survey of October 2018, stating “a good boat”. Since then we have invested in comfort, safety & preventative maintenance improvements, listed in the attached document and including a full Nav technology B&G upgrade & additional autopilot in July 2020.
There’s a spec sheet attached in the subgroup post at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and please contact me by email tony.wells@... for more information including photos which I will send to you via Whatsapp
Thanks
Tony Wells
Amel 54 - 102 (2008)
Balthazar
Cruising Corsica, heading north to South France
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
After breaking two I had one made in aluminium. Regards Danny SM 299\Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand
On 02 September 2020 at 12:14 "James Cromie via groups.io" <jamescromie@...> wrote:
Hello everyone -
I would like to ask if anyone can recommend a US source for a replacement plastic ballooner halyard hook (for hoisting). This would be for a Super Maramu 2000.
Alternatively, I'll contact Sav.amel.
Thank you!
James C
Soteria SM2K 347
Petersburg, AK
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If you grab it in the middle you will find it moves enough to cause the entry to go up and down with the vigorous movement, creating a pump action. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 September 2020 at 19:07 Alexis LETELLIER <alexis.letellier@...> wrote:
Thanks a lot Danny, interesting way to solve it, will keep that in mind. I just remember the hose was really hard to move and manipulate, not very flexible.
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Thank you all for the really useful information.
I had thought about a rebuild but a lengthy article on Morgans Cloud convinced me that repowering is the better option. The overall conclusion was that a rebuild can very easily go wrong so that you end up repowering anyway.
With regard to the Beta engine, a lot of people seem to shy away from turbo models. I can see that the 85 is a turbo. Is there any reason to avoid turbos? The Perkins is 30 years old and is a turbo and it seems to be just fine.
Next problem is finding a suitable engineer in Southern Spain.
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Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Craig Briggs
Hi James,
This is clearly not a standard part that can be sourced in the US, but just take your lowering mouse to any machine shop and have them make an identical one out of delrin, but with a notch to engage the latch. Should be easy peasy and inexpensive. Let me know if you want actual dimensions for the notch and I'll be happy to measure mine.
Cheers, Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Hello everyone -
I would like to ask if anyone can recommend a US source for a replacement plastic ballooner halyard hook (for hoisting). This would be for a Super Maramu 2000.
Alternatively, I'll contact Sav.amel.
Thank you!
James C
Soteria SM2K 347
Petersburg, AK
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I had a similar problem, wherein the chain counter would count on its own, regardless of the anchor position. I had Alban in Martinique look at it and he cleaned the magnet. It worked for awhile and then quit completely. I am convinced it is the sensor that fails - not the magnet.
My approach was to replace the Lewmar A500 unit with the newer A560. It comes with a new sensor/magnet combination and uses a different technology. It requires 3 wires vs. the 2-wire system installed with the original Lewmar A500 on my A54.
Fortunately, Amel was wise and they ran a 3-wire cable from the cockpit to the windlass. Getting the old sensor and magnet out of the windlass was the biggest issue, but I was able to do that and hook up the new sensor using the previously unused wire.
The new display is a big improvement and actually self-calibrates. It was a lot more expensive ($500 USD) than simply replacing the sensor/magnet ($90 USD), but it really works and has proven very reliable. Keeping the buildup residue on the magnet is still important though.
I am a happy camper now when I use the windlass - no more counting in my head as I deploy.
Jamie Wendell
Phantom, A54 #44
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Re: Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.
There are two versions of the elbow sensor on Onan generators on Super Maramus.
Some Onan models have part 309-0295-01 which is Normally Closed. Other models have part
309-0295 is Normally Open. Which sensor you have depends on your Onan Model and Serial. Check the
parts manual for your model to determine how to test this sensor. Or call your Cummins/Onan dealer with
your model and serial number. Remember there are a number of sensors in the shutdown system, and
these switches will fail. I replaced the exhaust manifold temperature switch and the water-flow switch
because of an accumulation of debris inside. I also had one situation with a loose connection on a switch.
Did you use your laser temperature gun to measure temperature? The normal temperature of the exhaust
elbow is about 50C and the normal temperature of the coolant is about 80C. Were these in range? How
many hours since the last impeller change? Should be less than 300hrs or 12 months. The impeller blades
can look OK, but the impeller can be defective.
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CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
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Address:
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550
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Hi Mike, I believe if the exhaust temperature at the sensor exceeds 230 degrees F. the genset shuts down. I will do an experiment one day and disconnect one wire while the genset is running and see what happens. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Thanks Eric. Sent you a message with order details. When these fail, go bad, or break, how do you know? Does it prevent the genset from starting/running? Or does it allow the genset to overheat if there are issues with the cooling system (broken impeller for example) and potentially damage things?
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michael winand
We have recently been through the process. Couldn't justify the dollars to make the Volvo tmd new again. Oil leak. Turbo rebuild. We have installed a new beta 60. Plenty of power. Lots of torque. Big electrodyne alternator. Remote filters for easy access.
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 4:09 am, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote: I believe the Beta 85 is the best engine to repower the SM or 54. There are lots of reasons...here are a few: Beta understands the isolated ground Beta 85 is Kubota powered
Beta 85 has no computer and sensors
Here is some contact information for those interested: Americas & Caribbean | UK, EU, Asia, AU, NZ | Stanley Feigenbaum | Andrew Growcoot | Beta Marine US Ltd 11702 NC-306 Arapahoe, NC 28510 P +1(252) 249-2473 US Toll-Free 877 227 2473
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Email me privately at brouse@... if you are interested in a discount from Beta
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CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
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Hello Mark and Nicky,
Welcome aboard!!!
If I had your situation, I would think more of an overhaul than Beta. Lots of spare parts available through Parts4engines.com.
If after analysis, an engine swap is needed, the Beta would also be my choice
Kind regards,
Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ We have just taken Nunky on her maiden voyage from Antibes to Almerimar over 5-6 weeks and we have loved the whole experience. The boat just feels so safe. Now that we have some experience of the boat I am hoping to be able to contribute to the group and the knowledge base.
One thing about the Western Med that I have noticed however is the amount of motoring you have to do. We have put 130 hours on the engine in just over 800 miles.
Nunky currently has the original Perkins M80T fitted. The hour meter broke at some point so I have no idea how many hours it has done. The new meter read 10 when we bought her but I doubt that was fitted 10 hours before we the boat.
Anyway we were considering a complete overhaul but a head gasket problem we had in Cartagena suggests that is the least we should do. Given that I have no idea how many hours the Perkins has done I am thinking about replacing it.
I have read and reread all the previous posts about repowers and I am edging towards a Beta 75. I like the fact that the engine is simple, they seem to have an excellent reputation and they will also fit a bespoke charging solution. That appeals because when we fit lithium eventually I would like a high capacity 24v alternator fitting.
I would really appreciate the group's current views on repowers that have been undertaken.
Many thanks
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Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110
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Re: Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.
Hi Mike, I believe if the exhaust temperature at the sensor exceeds 230 degrees F. the genset shuts down. I will do an experiment one day and disconnect one wire while the genset is running and see what happens. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price. Thanks Eric. Sent you a message with order details. When these fail, go bad, or break, how do you know? Does it prevent the genset from starting/running? Or does it allow the genset to overheat if there are issues with the cooling system (broken impeller for example) and potentially damage things?
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We just had this problem. It was a rusted magnet. It's very easy to open up the windlass and see the magnet on the gypsy. On A54 #69, we have two windlasses, so I just took the gypsy from the port windlass and put it on starboard. There's no counter on port anyways and we barely use it, so the gypsy looked nearly new. By doing that, you could probably get quite a few more years of life and it will isolate whether the problem is the magnet or the sensor. If you look at the AutoAnchor manual, it shows you how to get into diagnostic mode to determine whether the sensors are getting power. That may help you figure out what's wrong. I suppose there could be wiring issues, but for us, it was easily remedied by swapping gypsies and hence, magnets. Good time to grease up the windlass, too. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
The magnet gets rusty. You may test the system , take off the gipsy and hold/turn a magnet above the reed relay and observe the counter
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162
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Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54
Nick,
You had me fooled. Your original post stated Amel 55, and the 55 furling assembly does not have a worm!
I believe that your Amel 54 #19 has the earlier version of the mainsail furling motor and gearbox, similar to the last SMs. I am having difficulty understanding why you would try to remove the worm gear before disassembling the gearbox and removing the spur gear. The spur gear will hold the worm gear in place. Maybe I am not understanding? Anyway, I will post some things here that may or may not help.
Here is a disassembled gearbox similar to yours. You can see the worm gear and understand how the spur holds it in place. Also maybe this helps:
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CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
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Hi guys, I am leaving it overnight soaking in diesel. I tried a puller earlier to push out the shaft but nada. Tomorrow I will apply heat and the puller. If that fails I guess it will need a press. I just wonder why it is not a nice snug fit, not as if it is a ball of rust. Maybe if when it finally yields it does not go back in with a gentle tap, I will have it machines down a thou.....so next timeI can pull it easy as kiss my hand. Nick Slightly fed up with a day of poor progress. Amelia Leros
AML 54-019
Nick,
Assuming that the worm gear and the shaft are both metal... I would try heating the component ( I assume this is the worm gear) with the hole to expand it while cooling the other part (the shaft) using ice or whatever you have. Some gentle tapping might be ok.
Best of luck,
James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54
I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019
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