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New Owners - 1996 SM #180

mr_hermanns
 

Hello fellow Amelians!

My Wife and I have purchased SM#180 (Anni Bea True).

She's a project boat for sure, and has almost all original systems except for an Yanmar engine upgrade (similar to the one on Cerulean my Maramu #105.).

Having been a Amel Maramu owner for the past 8+ years, I'm quickly learning the differences between 'Super' and 'OG' Maramu models. As well as the nuances of each boat for the first time - which is very exciting!!!

We've already had a heck of a time upgrading all the electronics with:
- B&G Zeus Chartplotters
- Dumping the old green CRT Furuno with a Halo Radar unit
- All new Tritons in cockpit
- Working depth transducer (went out every 10-15minutes intermittently)
- New Olympic 135 Compass
(yes, believe it or not she had a non functioning and zero oil Olympic 135)
- Replacing old sonic speed indicator
- Side Scan sonar install
- Replacing running rigging (90% chafed halyards, improperly rigged travelers and almost every other line you can think of was worn and showing signs of fatigue) we even blew out the old Bosuns chair safety line when putting new wind wand on mast!

There is much more to even mention, but will wait for later posts to address and mention.

Status: Been heading down east coast of US over past 2 weeks offshore (purchased in Annapolis and now in Ft Lauderdale) and planning to transit the canal in the next month on our way back to Marina Del Rey (our home) via MX.

Just wanted to reintroduce myself and looking forward to working through the many issues we encounter with you all and learn from the amazing collective wisdom of the group.

Things we can get advice on:
- Fridge and Freezer are on LAST legs, with the Galley fridge being a top priority with dead cold plates.
*Any recos on 24v suppliers or people to help while we are in FL!?
- Toilets are original 1996/1997 and looking to upgrade to self macerating prob.


Note: I’m sadly selling Cerulean Maramu #105 after almost a decade of upgrades and getting her to past new condition. Inquire if interested....literally no expense spared and BETTER than new.

Cheers,
Jer
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Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
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New: SM #180 Owner

Marina Del Rey, CA


Re: Insurance in Europe

Michael & Robyn
 

Hi Mark,

we had been with Pantaenius US since 2016 but had to change for the same reasons Mark & Debbie from Brassring described.
Pantaenius US only offered Geico as underwriter.
We looked into Boat US / Geico and Yachtinsure but their policy is NOT an "all risk". There was als a requirement for a US address for a foreign (none US) flagged vessel.
We decided to go with Y Yacht Insurance originally in the UK but for Brexit they opened up a European office in France.
Hurricane season is 1st June to 1st November and we have to be north of 36°N, e.g.: Chesapeake.
Their policy is readable and one can understand it without a degree in law science.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417


Re: SSB Ground

Joerg Esdorn
 

Standoffs are at least 10 cms at both top and bottom.  And both the manufacturer of the antenna and a SSB expert said it’s ok. I only try to transmit while at anchor.  Thanks guys!   Cheers. Joerg 


Re: Insurance in Europe

Matt Salatino
 

Very different from Pantaenius USA.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 2, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

We are by Pantenius Germany

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Re: Insurance in Europe

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

We are by Pantenius Germany

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Re: Insurance in Europe

Matt Salatino
 

Pantaenius UK and Pantaenius USA are two different companies that only share a name.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 2, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He Mark
Great ! I was on  the 60 on the Boat show in Düsseldorf.

We have now 15 yaers  pantenius for insurance and verry happy

Best Elja
SM Balu

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Re: Insurance in Europe

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Mark
Great ! I was on the 60 on the Boat show in Düsseldorf.

We have now 15 yaers pantenius for insurance and verry happy

Best Elja
SM Balu

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Re: Santorin C Drive leaks

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Volker,

I was on a voyage from Grenada to Panama when the oil in the reservoir became milky in colour. I had a long way to go so I just minimised engine use and Hauled out when I got to Colon at the Western end of the canal. No trouble in the 10 years since. I change the seals and wearing bearing at each 2 year haulout

Regards

Danny 

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 02 February 2020 at 22:52 Volker Hasenauer <volker.hasenauer@...> wrote:

...thanks for the info received.....I will try my luck and see how I can move the boat.

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 7:21 PM Herbert Lackner < herbert@...> wrote:
Hi Volker,

Amel uses now SAE90, 15/40 is also ok, but no ATF!  ATF is used for the gearbox, not for the drive.

herbert, SN120

 

 


Re: Amel Euros 41 - Autopilot, what autopilot! Anyone recognise these parts please?

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

i don't think the Euros was equipped with an autopilot from Amel
our Euros 39 had no AP and was upgraded by us
Greetings to Elja
SM Balu

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Re: SSB Ground

 

Joerg,

In my experience with SSB, Matt is exactly correct about multiple nearby masts.

Also, I looked closely at your photo. It is my understanding that a marine 4" stand-off" antenna mount must be used to hold the SSB antenna a minimum of 4" from other metal parts. In the Amel SM and 54, Amel used these to "stand-off" from the life rail. I believe I see the stand-off near the top of the Simpson Davits. I also note two things:
  1. The Simpson Davits represent a very large piece of metal. Maybe the stand-off separation should be greater. An HF/SSB expert should comment here.
  2. The separation was not visible in your photo at the base. Is it also 4"?
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On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 9:36 AM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
One other big issue is trying to transmit from a marina. All the masts adversely affect transmission. You’ll have to leave the marina to get an accurate assessment .

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



 

Thank you, Herbert.  I will clean the dynaplates next.  I have had the tuner and the transmitter tested twice and I do hear the tuner clicking.  My antenna is installed next to the davits but I asked the manufacturer of the antenna about that and they said it was fine.  I will try to swing the mizzen boom away, though.  

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Daniel.  I have removed that extra wire as well.  The control wire from the transmitter to the tuner carries ground as well so the additional wire Amel installed is not necessary and may be harmful as you say.

Following the link to the SSB goodies you sent, I see the SSB grounding paint. Someone told me to paint the bottom of the Lazarette with that paint and connect it to the tuner with copper tape.  Theoretically this should work but has anyone tried it?  


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Re: SSB Ground

Matt Salatino
 

One other big issue is trying to transmit from a marina. All the masts adversely affect transmission. You’ll have to leave the marina to get an accurate assessment .

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:



 

Thank you, Herbert.  I will clean the dynaplates next.  I have had the tuner and the transmitter tested twice and I do hear the tuner clicking.  My antenna is installed next to the davits but I asked the manufacturer of the antenna about that and they said it was fine.  I will try to swing the mizzen boom away, though.  

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Daniel.  I have removed that extra wire as well.  The control wire from the transmitter to the tuner carries ground as well so the additional wire Amel installed is not necessary and may be harmful as you say.

Following the link to the SSB goodies you sent, I see the SSB grounding paint. Someone told me to paint the bottom of the Lazarette with that paint and connect it to the tuner with copper tape.  Theoretically this should work but has anyone tried it?  


Re: SSB Ground

Joerg Esdorn
 

 

Thank you, Herbert.  I will clean the dynaplates next.  I have had the tuner and the transmitter tested twice and I do hear the tuner clicking.  My antenna is installed next to the davits but I asked the manufacturer of the antenna about that and they said it was fine.  I will try to swing the mizzen boom away, though.  


Daniel.  I have removed that extra wire as well.  The control wire from the transmitter to the tuner carries ground as well so the additional wire Amel installed is not necessary and may be harmful as you say.

Following the link to the SSB goodies you sent, I see the SSB grounding paint. Someone told me to paint the bottom of the Lazarette with that paint and connect it to the tuner with copper tape.  Theoretically this should work but has anyone tried it?  


Amel Euros 41 - Autopilot, what autopilot! Anyone recognise these parts please?

Andrew Eaves
 

Hi all

I have disconnected the chain to the shaft of the steering wheel firstly.

1. Is this standard Amel autopilot do you know?
2. What/where was the control unit/compass bumpf as I presume it isn't built into the motor part??
3. Is this circuit board specifically for the autopilot or does it have other functionality?
4. I was told today by the original owner, he thinks you may be able to hook up some kind of Raymarine control box to this motor. Does anyone know if that or anything else is possible? I'm not going to try and reinstate whatever the original control unit was, wherever that is :)

Thank all.


Re: Santorin C Drive leaks

Volker Hasenauer
 

...thanks for the info received.....I will try my luck and see how I can move the boat.


On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 7:21 PM Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> wrote:
Hi Volker,

Amel uses now SAE90, 15/40 is also ok, but no ATF!  ATF is used for the gearbox, not for the drive.

herbert, SN120


Re: Insurance in Europe

marklesparkle59
 

Hi Mark,
Sea Hobo has been insured with Navigators and General since I took over and and they seem very reasonable and helpful. I have not made a claim. The cost was smaller this year for the same coverage, a nice surprise.

Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki #96



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Mark Dajani via Groups.Io" <mdajani@...>
Date: 01/02/2020 19:28 (GMT+00:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance in Europe

Hello Matt,

My Name is Mark Dajani,   I will be picking up my Amel 60 this June and plan to keep it in the med for a year or so before moving on.    I read your entire flow on the boat building process and it was very helpful.   the Amel folks have been a pleasure to work with.     

I am ready to get Insurance,   I would certainly appreciate any insights from your experience.   Which agency / carrier did you end up with.   what would you do differently?   thanks so much for any advice you may have.


Mark


Re: Steyr motor turbocharger complete

eric freedman
 

Hi Mike,

Any carburetor cleaner will work. Be careful around plastics and finished wood , this chemical is very strong.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2020 12:07 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Steyr motor turbocharger complete

 

Hi Mike, it is a CRC product and seeing you are in Opua you should have no trouble accessing it. Repco are likely to have it. Photo attached. I am based in Mangonui a day sail north of you if you would like a catch up

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 January 2020 at 15:26 "Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)" <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Do you know who manufactures and/or supplies the carbo clean product you use? I've found quite a variety online.

Thanks,
Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ


Re: Steyr motor turbocharger complete

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Mike, it is a CRC product and seeing you are in Opua you should have no trouble accessing it. Repco are likely to have it. Photo attached. I am based in Mangonui a day sail north of you if you would like a catch up

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 January 2020 at 15:26 "Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)" <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Do you know who manufactures and/or supplies the carbo clean product you use? I've found quite a variety online.

Thanks,
Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ


Re: New companionway lock source

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

If you are near Brunswick, GA or stop at Brunswick Landing Marina as many transiting boats do I found today that Central Hardware on Norwich St. has the Y2 key blanks in stock.  They cut several keys for me.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Changing engine bearings Amel Mango Perkins 4.236

Arlo
 

I would also like to know as well. 


Re: Insurance in Europe

Matt Salatino
 

Thanks for the input Mark. We understand Pantaenius’ Caribbean and US limits. We are insuring for the Med, and the conditions were comparable to others. We do realize when we cross the Atlantic, we’ll have to change carriers. That is likely 2 years off.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 1, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

Hi Matt,

 

We had been insured with Pantaenius US for the last two years with no issues.  However, our policy renewal date was January 1 and the new policy conditions that Pantaenius imposed were so onerous and unreasonable that we were forced to switch carriers.

 

Pantaenius changed the upper boundary of the hurricane box to 35° North, this bisects Cape Hatteras.  Our nearest port North then becomes Hampton or Norfolk.  An additional deterrent was departing Norfolk on or after December 1; it gets pretty real cold at that time of the year.  They also changed the dates of the hurricane season from July 15 – November 1 to July 1 – November 30 with no boundary for the southern end of the box.  The change in dates decreased summer sailing season by 45 days if you plan to sail the Bahamas or the Caribbean.  They now also require that the “insured vessel shall be secured between two fixed piers or a fixed pier and a bulkhead or two bulkheads; these fixed structures to which the insured vessel is secured must be suitable to sustain the wave action of the NTS. The size of the berth and the manner in which the insured vessel is secured shall be such that there is a minimum of 6 feet of distance between the vessel and each fixed pier or bulkhead and any adjacent vessels or pilings. The insured vessel shall NOT be secured to floating piers or docks…”.  I believe you have been at Brunswick Landing Marina in Brunswick, GA; these policy conditions exclude Brunswick as a harbor that has traditionally been very safe during hurricane season.  Pantaenius also had an increase in the lightning deductible plus a substantial increase in premium.

 

If Pantaenius becomes one of your final candidates I would go over the policy conditions very thoroughly.  We selected:

 

YachtInsure

Hugo Hanham-Gross

Hanham Insurance Agency

843.410.2990

Charleston, SC  29403


--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54