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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Stefan Jeukendrup
Hi Marco, Transducers will be filled with moisture over time, especially without the rubber cap. You can measure the resistance: disconnect the transducer from the Sonic Speed box. It should be 110 kilo ohm +-1% between red and black, infinite ohms to the screen. Did the exchange job 2 months ago.
*. Aft transducer on the keel : translucent hose in the locker near the washing machine/freezer
* Forward transducer on the hull : grey pipe under the seat near the bathroom bulkhead
See the 2 pictures: Procedure:
Detach ALL tie-wraps from the black transducer cables in the pipes to the Sonic Speed control box in the small cupboard
* firmly solder long extension cables to the old transducer cable ends * drill holes in the center of the old transducers, fit self tapping screw * pull the screw while someone inside the boat feeds the extended cable into the pipe * important: leave the extended part of the cable in the pipe because you will use it to pull the new sensor in! * clean and lubricate the pipe end where the transducer sits in the hull e.g. silicone grease. * solder a new sensor to the extension cable and pull the new sensor in while someone at the other end of the pipe gently pulls the cables in. I did the last point with the boat in the water as both pipes end well above the waterline. My transducers are B&G part number 184-00-076/FI.
Good luck, this is less daunting than it looks.... Stefan Jeukendrup sv Malaka Queen SM2k #348 @Monastir
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Hot Water Heater Power Consumption
Stephen Davis
The hot water heater on my SM is working normally except for one detail. Normally, when the heater is heating water it draws a little over 3 amps AC. When the water is hot, it usually draws 0 amps until it goes into a heating cycle again. Now, it seems to always have a background power draw of about .75 amps. What I’m wondering is if this means the heating element is partly degraded, but not to the point of popping the breaker yet. Have any of you experienced this symptom, and should I just changed the element now, or could there be a different problem. I’d much prefer to change the element now than enroute to Alaska in a few weeks, but don’t want to do it at all if that is not the problem. Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Replacement of carpets in SM
Alexander,
Sorry I cannot help with a dealer in France but I do have a little bit of insight for your project.
About 4 years ago we replaced all the carpeting in Cream Puff for under US$500.00. We were fortunate to find a marine carpet dealer near the boat and made a side trip one day to visit their store. We took samples from them and opted for a grayish/brown berber marine quality carpet.
The marine quality is very similar to outdoor carpet as it has a backing. The soft rubber backing is perfect for a boat. It is sticky enough to stay in place and not slide. It is not too sticky that you cannot remove it to access panels in the floor. Our carpet was made by Shaw and had a NuWave back.
We ordered a 10’ long piece of 12’ wide carpet. This was ample to replace all the carpet and make some door mats.
This is where we purchased ours: https://marinecarpeting.com/
Our price included delivery to the dock.
Check hardware store new you for outdoor carpeting. If you buy from a “marine” supplier, it’ll cost a lot more. You can buy a small piece at first and see how it works. It will need to have a non-slip backing so you can walk on it when underway without it sliding.
For the binding rather than send it out to a place with a machine, we found adhesive carpet binding and did it ourselves. We used the old carpet for templates, cut the new carpet with a pair of large workshop scissors and then cut and applied the binding. The entire project took a day to complete.
To do all the carpets you will need 100’ of binding. Here is the binding we used:
Here is a link to the store where we purchased it: https://www.tools4flooring.com/instabind-regular-binding-per-linear-ft-p-948.html The link above has a video about how to install the adhesive binding. It is pretty easy to do. It takes two people (for the glue gun bit)
Our new carpet has held up really well and we can remover carpet when needed to wash it gently with our power washer. I have attach a couple of pictures.
Hope this helps and good luck with your project.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
[mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alexander Schenk
via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:19 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacement of carpets in SM
Hello,
We are looking at replacing our carpets (al cleaning efforts did not pay out) and would like to know if anybody has any good tips on this. Preferably a supplier in Northern France, as our boat is currently located in Roscoff, Britany.
Best Alexander Schenk SM #231 - Antinea ,_
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Re: European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
and, of course, do note that you will be getting US 60 Hz, not European 50 Hz.
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Richie Whyte
Hi All
@brent
Thank you for your welcome. I will take a look at the registry. Thanks for that.
@Eric
I think I will check again with the registrar and see if they are open to the location suggested by Trevor as it seems to have got past the authorities in Ireland once already.
@ryan
Thank for for saving me from the error of my assumption. A picture does save a thousand words. I have only been on the boat once and clearly hadn't paid enough attention to that area.
@trevor
You better believe its complex...I am nearly a year at it at this stage. I have been told by the registrar if i get the plate and the new decals in place and photographed they will accept the photos as proof of carving & marking and issue the registration certificate. Your suggested location sounds good to me - entirely out of the way. I will take up you offer and email you directly if you dont mind.
Thank you all for your generous replies. Richie
Why Knot
SM2K#261
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Re: European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
eric freedman
I forgot to mention that you should mount a circuit breaker . I believe it is 30 or 35 amps where the cord enters the boat in the stern locker. It should be the same amperage as the breaker on the side of the 220 volt panel. (I’m not on the boat) The only problem with just plugging into a 50 amp outlet is that you need more than 50 amps to shut off the power. If there is a short somewhere in the shore power it might make a fire. The galvanic isolator can then be mounted in the Amel’s green /yellow wire. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:30 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
Hello Dominique, I believe you have the wrong plug as you do not have a ground.. You want a 50 amp twist lock plug. It has 4 connections for USA boats. For European boats you use only 3 of the 4 connections. The green/yellow from the boat goes to the green in the plug. The blue from the boat goes to the black in the plug . The brown from the boat goes to the red in the plug. . The white neutral, is not used.
The neutral wire is used on USA boats to get 110 volts between the black or the red.-this is not used.
Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dominique Guenot
Hello,
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Re: European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
eric freedman
Hello Dominique, I believe you have the wrong plug as you do not have a ground.. You want a 50 amp twist lock plug. It has 4 connections for USA boats. For European boats you use only 3 of the 4 connections. The green/yellow from the boat goes to the green in the plug. The blue from the boat goes to the black in the plug . The brown from the boat goes to the red in the plug. . The white neutral, is not used.
The neutral wire is used on USA boats to get 110 volts between the black or the red.-this is not used.
Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dominique Guenot
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:28 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
Hello,
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European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
Hello,
My understanding: sv Viva #374 is wired for Europe 240V with 3 prongs; Phase (hot), Neutral, Ground Ala Wai Marina in Hawaii does have 240V with 3 prongs, 2 Phases (hot) and Neutral. No ground, plug protected by a breaker at the Marina socket.. 110V is coming between one phase and neutral. Then 240V is coming from the 2 phases. I bought a socket NEMA L6-30P wich is fitting the Marina socket. My questions are: 1-How do I wire this NEMA L6-30P socket to replace the European Socket? I foresee 2 mutually exclusive options: 11- wire one US phase in the European Neutral 12-combine the 2 US phases in the European Phase Both options seems wrong ... 2-Do I have to install a 30A "galvanic isolator" - as I have seen in previous threads - if the Marina socket is protected by a breaker? Any advice and tip will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dominique Guenot +1 917 826 0945 sv Viva #374
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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Randall;
Although our “temporary” fix of spraying CorrosionX in the furler has lasted over 4 years and the furler is still very smooth, it has been on our list to service the unit, once we figure out how to get into it. I have a few questions that I would appreciate your response on:
Thanks for providing this very useful information and sharing your experience.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Randall via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:41 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Thomas, I removed disassembled and cleaned my mizzen outhaul last fall. You don't need to drop sail. The issue will be in the Delrin bushings that become very stiff. I have attached 2 pictures of my work. The bearings are not to be lubed/greased. I used a cheap homemade tool to unscrew the bottom. 2cm square bar 2 drill holes straight through, put the drill bits in so the solid end goes into the bottom of the furler, with furler in a vice. Worked great. I finished and put on a video from a fellow Amel owner who did the same job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB67b2hK-kA&t=657s They do the job at 8.02 of the video. If you need more info let me know. Use the bar not the saw. Cheers.
Randall A54 #56 Gibraltar
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Upcoming Event: Zoom Meeting Presentation of the Amel 50 from La Rochelle - Sat, 05/16/2020 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
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Reminder: Zoom Meeting Presentation of the Amel 50 from La Rochelle When: Saturday, 16 May 2020, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC Where:From La Rochelle, France aboard Amel 50 SPEED OF LIFE An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Description: Group members Matt & Cindy Salatino will present their brand new Amel 50 #27 "Speed of Life" from the Amel pontoon in La Rochelle. Matt and Cindy will give us a virtual tour during this presentation and answer your questions at the end of the presentation. Tilo Peters will administer the ZOOM meeting and I suspect that things will run smoothly and be enjoyed by all attending. If you cannot use ZOOM (highly recommended that you try), Tilo set up a YouTube Live stream: https://youtu.be/Ffks9eEkGG4. The YouTube Live stream will likely be a bit off, as it seems to show my control view and not the speaker view that is normally transmitted via Zoom. Tilo will also record our meeting on YouTube which will be available 48-72 hours after the meeting. He will notify you when it is available. Direct link to Join the 16 May at 20:00 UTC - ZOOM Meeting https://epfl.zoom.us/j
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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Randall Walker
Thomas, I removed disassembled and cleaned my mizzen outhaul last fall. You don't need to drop sail. The issue will be in the Delrin bushings that become very stiff. I have attached 2 pictures of my work. The bearings are not to be lubed/greased. I used a cheap homemade tool to unscrew the bottom. 2cm square bar 2 drill holes straight through, put the drill bits in so the solid end goes into the bottom of the furler, with furler in a vice. Worked great. I finished and put on a video from a fellow Amel owner who did the same job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB67b2hK-kA&t=657s They do the job at 8.02 of the video. If you need more info let me know. Use the bar not the saw. Cheers. Randall A54 #56 Gibraltar
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Ciao Marco, stesso problema con diversa soluzione. Scrivimi direttamente. BV Giovanni Testa Sv Eutikia SM 2k 428
Il Gio 14 Mag 2020, 21:34 Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> ha scritto:
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Marco Mancini
Dear Arno, Paul , Oliver, Mohamed, Bill
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
thanks for your suggestions that are very help-full to me. Indeed as you may understand our SM Desiree is quite 20 years old and her electronic has the same age also if we have always maintained it substituting time by time the broken components of the system. In any case the Hydra 2000 cpu at present is the main cpu that acquires data from the different sensors among which there is also the sonic speed one and all is perfectly functioning except the speed. If it will be possible I think that the substitution of the sonic speed sensor is at present the best solution because it is compatibility with the Hydra 2000 CPU . The use of different more advanced and updated sensors does not ensure this compatibility due the interaction with the old system. I am also far from the boat ( Milan) and the boat is in Naples. This attached picture shows what you can see on the keel i.e. the the hole of the aft sensor or more precisely the hole that presumably were occupied by the head of the sensor that we lost. What is unclear to me is if the hole in the keel was only occupied by a neoprene cap or what we have lost is a sensible part of the sensor. In this second case will be necessary to replace the sensor otherwise we can try to add a neoprene cap and try to set the gain on the sensor cpu. Do you have some suggestions and ideas about ? again thanks cheers marco
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
eric freedman
Hi Richie, Amel mounted my registration in the back of the hanging locker against the hull. I don’t know if that is legal in Ireland. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richie Whyte
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:05 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Hi Eric
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Trevor Lusty
Hi Richie,
Fair winds with your new boat. I registered my SM in Drogheda, they happily accepted the plate screwed onto the wooden frame beneath the floor locker. Be aware that Irish registration of a foreign flagged vessel lying overseas is a very complex process and difficult to achieve ,as the department of the marine require a survey from someone nominated on their list, most of whom will have no interest in travelling anywhere as there isn't enough money in it for them. You can get her registered in Ireland if one of the official ports of entry will accept her on their list providing you give them proof that she actually exists, is VAT paid and you own the majority of the 64 shares. It took me nine months back in 2007 and lots of patience and time. If I can help you at all ping me @ gmail. Good luck. Trevor Lusty Former owner Seafever of Cuan SM425 Cork Ireland
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Paul, Yes, and they have been recently updated. I sent you an email on how to update your book. Bill
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:13 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Hello Richie. Congratulations on your new Super Maramu (Why Knot, formerly Guma) and welcome to the Amel Owner’s group! There is an Amel Owner’s Registry used by owners to contact each other. It is only found from within the Amel Owner’s Forum and we don’t post links to it outside of that - it is really only used so that owners can contact each other and owners can decide how much information (or if at all) they would like published in it. For your convenience, I have attached the link to the Registry (https://tinyurl.com/AmelRegistry) and the update form (https://tinyurl.com/AmelRegistryUpdate). If you would like your new boat on this list, use the later link and I will add it according to your preferences. Thanks and welcome to the Registry!
Brent
-- Brent Cameron Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Ryan Meador
Hi Richie, The location you selected would not be my first choice, as (at least on our boat) that side of the bulkhead is covered in the same vinyl material as the headliner. No doubt you could drill through it, but it makes more sense to me to mount it directly to wood. If you want to go ahead with this plan, that bulkhead appears to be about 25mm thick. There's a large wooden beam directly under the mainmast, which I assume hides the compression post. It's 17 cm wide, with a bit of a radius at the corner. A 15 cm plate might just fit on the flat part. I'd see if you can put it there, tucked up close to the bottom of the electrical panel (to the right of our fire extinguisher in the photo). I can't hazard a guess as to how thick the wood is. Another likely spot is forward of the head door, directly under the hatch. That bulkhead is about 15 mm thick. Yet another option might be the shelf above the forward hanging locker. It's pretty far outboard, so I'm not sure if it meets the requirement of "directly under the mast". There's enough space for the plate in between the two doors on our boat. If you want to hide it behind the door to the saloon, it will fit there too. The front face of the shelf is about 18 mm thick. I hope this is helpful, and I also hope the dimensions on your boat are the same as ours. This was a fun little diversion while I'm on conference calls. Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:04 AM Richie Whyte <richiewhyte@...> wrote: Hi Eric
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Re: sonic speed on SM 2000
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Bill,
Are these instructions in your book?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Sent: 13 May 2020 15:30 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
Marco,
I sent you an email with the instructions you need.
Bill
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:55 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Richie Whyte
Hi Eric
She is being registered in Ireland. She was previously registered in the UK but with the UK leaving the EU we wanted to protect her EU VAT paid status and we couldn't get a straight answer from anyone so it made sense to move the registration. Richie Richie Whyte Why Knot SM2K#261
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